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I feel like a lot of people point more towards Leo saying that he's useless without his brothers more than they point towards him saying he's useless in the maze of champions episode and I think the reason for that is that he becomes more skilled in that field as the show goes on and it's hard to pull angst out of it when that's the case, but I really do think that puts more of a spotlight on his complex regarding the idea of "uselessness" than him saying he's useless without his brothers.
This is because I think him saying he's useless without his brothers is more indicative of a level of emotional dependency. We can assume that they grew up largely away from society, sticking together in isolation. This often (... basically always) has a profound impact on a child's psychological development. We already know Raph can't function outside the group. At least not when it's unexpected.
I think this applies to most of them, even if it manifests in different ways.
I actually find it interesting, the idea that Donnie doesn't talk about his "emotionally unavailable bad boy image" exclusively as some kind of fantasy, but somewhat taking from an understanding (that they all probably have) that his identity isn't so reliant on the others' existences as the others' identities are.
Everyone else's role is related to the fact that they exist as a group. Raph is the oldest, the protector. Leo is the faceman, he speaks for the group, almost like a lawyer. And Mikey is the younger brother, as well as the hypeman. These are all central to their identities and are also inherently dynamical. Their senses of self are in relation to their existence as a collective. But Donnie's understanding of himself is pretty self contained. He's the science guy. He wouldn't handle the loss of his brothers any better than any of his brothers would, but it wouldn't shatter his sense of self. He would still know who he is without them.
To perhaps provide a visual of this dynamic in action-
There's angst in all directions there tbh. Raph and Leo's are kind of self explanatory and straight up have been explored in canon. But I think that Mikey thinks he's less reliant on this dynamic than he is, and Donnie isn't as reliant on the others but he probably feels disconnected from his brothers. That could be interesting psychologically, in contrast with the others' bonds forming because there's no one else to bond with, him going the other direction and becoming self reliant.
Although it is implied that he's the closest with April which may have lead him to being slightly, technically healthier about his sense of self. Though I do think that seeing the bond his brothers have that he doesn't experience with them does probably still cause some feelings of isolation regardless. I don't think his brothers are thrilled with this going the other way around either tbh
#He always seems to be a group lingerer and no one is thrilled about it#April seems to work as a kind of glue for that when she's around though#You wanna write something about this? I'd recommend having April go out of town or something#important to note though that otherwise Mikey is generally the most successful at actually getting him to feel connected with the group#even if it's sometimes only by proxy#codependency#rottmnt leo#rottmnt raphael#rottmnt donnie#rottmnt mikey#rise of the tmnt#tmnt#save rottmnt#save rise of the tmnt#tmnt leonardo#hamato leonardo#tmnt raph#tmnt raphael#hamato raphael#tmnt donatello#donatello hamato#rise donatello#rise leonardo#rise leo#rise donnie#rise raphael#rise raph#tmnt michaelangelo#hamato michelangelo#rise michelangelo
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks they're codependent and not in a shippy way either. I'm not sure if I want to say it's codependency in an emotionally abusive/manipulative way but it's definitely not healthy and there are other factors to it outside out that as well.
I think it’s only manipulative on Jimmy’s front.
I see Curly as this deeply lonely person because he doesn’t open up well. I believe he is very rehearsed because he’s used to being the rock, strong man and stabilizing force. His vulnerability is very much ignored or downplaying in the game intentionally by Jimmy who uses his and others woes as a comparative. I see this as a common behavior between them but also just something Curly will do to himself to keep himself complacent. He doesn’t have much he actually enjoys in life more so things he just does. Jimmy is one thing he’s felt more than complacent and comfortable around in a long while despite how inconsiderate Jimmy is. He’s more used to it than he loves it but he’s used to that.
Jimmy in the other hand is like a dog that bites the hand that feeds it. Jimmy recognizes those little cracks Curly has and likes to dig into them to get a foothold. He knows Curly isn’t the one to suddenly budge, so if he can keep him wedged in a place he is, he’s secured to. He needs Curly, but forgets that he chose to attach himself that way and resents Curly for keeping him from getting out from under him. He based everything off the reflections on the shield he force Curly to be for him but can’t see the painful light Curly obscures.
To me, it’s really just Curly is used to how draining Jimmy is. He relents and works with whatever keeps Jimmy placated because it’s easier and he doesn’t feel like he has much else that he actually enjoys. It’s an abusive relationship but not physically, not until after the crash atleast. Jimmy’s a leech and Curly just got used to being lightheaded.
#like he allows Jimmy to get away with a lot after Jimmy rags on him and tears down what would be considered his backbone#but that’s like a behavior that’s conditioned like they’ve been friend for years and Curly is a good friend to him but not the other way#around Jimmy justice spent a while getting Curly to this space where a few toxic words and Curly is second guessing himself and his choice#to condem Jimmy and by proxy distance himself. just like Jimmy can’t live without Curly Curly has convinced himself that Jimmy is somehow#important to his happiness and joy despite him causing more stress and problems#mouthwashing#mouthwashing game#curly mouthwashing#jimmy mouthwashing#ask#anon
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something about perspective, representation, or finding beauty in imperfection, i don't know. i mostly just wanted to say that fake pep looks like shitty ice cream.
#this was one of those things i thought of and was like. i cant believe i havent seen this done yet. it's right there.#misshapen and melty and the weird orb eyes are never in right....but that's the charm of it you know#pizza tower#peppino spaghetti#fake peppino#it's not important but technically thats dougie jones in the van#was going to have it be noisette at first bc lbr awful ice cream is SO on brand for her#but she was not inconsequential enough. needed 2 be fully bg type character u kno.#i dont know maybe hes selling them for her by proxy#i mean dougie works for the noise right? maybe he knows noisette+does her bidding too#<- doing the thing i always do where i find the MOST trivial characters or bits of lore to bring to the forefront for the hell of it#u guys havent gotten much of that here with pt yet but we may get there. i do think about mr. incognito too.#also SNICK i want to do stuff with snick i like him. we'll see. we'll see.#pizzaposting#anyway the second panel is my fave fp ive drawn yet also PLEASE fullview the first image. i die#arting
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Thinking about it, Daedalus and only Daedalus consistently refers to Donov as 代表 (representative) instead of the ergo proxy specific term 執国 that nearly everyone else uses (officially translated as regent, but the more I think about it, that word has kinda the implications of representative so maybe i would have chosen something different… I’ve seen it translated as administrator too. It’s command/govern+ country) I mean besides Re-l who just calls him grandfather lol. Raul even draws attention to this when talking to Daedalus in episode 10, and I do think it’s significant.
Anyway I was just thinking about why he would always use such a term, and I think it has to do with the fact that he knows more than most since he’s in charge of proxy research. Also I see both official and fansubs mess this up when I think it’s an important distinction to make that he uses a different term.
(Spoilers below!!!)
So he knows that Donov is just a “representative” for the true creator of Romdo, a proxy. Idk how much he knew about Proxy One specifically, but he was created to take care of Re-l who is meant to bring back their creator so I feel like he did know the situation at least to some degree if not the details. He knows what role Monad is playing for the city and that she was taken from Mosk so presumably he knew there was another proxy at some point at least that sustained their city.
And by the end it’s clear Daedalus is someone that clings to gods and thinks all the “pseudo-humans” as failures meant to die, so all the more reason to simply call him a representative instead of the more commanding sounding title of 執国 (it’s also sad that EN-only viewers will miss that the reading of ep22’s JP title is read the same way, “shikkoku” 桎梏 bonds/fetters. Which also seems like a deliberate thing to have the title of the administrator of your city sound like.)
#Infel’s ep tag#aghhh I really do think the word choice is deliberate ESPECIALLY in a show like ergo proxy#with all its layers of reference and symbolism and Meaningful Names#so it’s important to point out when someone is using a different term from the norm?#like the official subs are fine for the most part but there are a few parts that bother me#though the biggest blunder is still ep17’s mistake in one of the best scenes in the whole show
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obsessed with this scene from The sun is so hot i froze to death
#okay i know technically this part was supposed to be important to the story#but it did chuckle me how it was placed in the situation#and my toby doesn’t look like how he looks in the fic but shhh#neither does jeff lowkey#creepypasta#jeff the killer#ticci toby#creepypasta proxy#ticcijeff#slendermen#slenderman#proxies#creepypasta ship#gay#queer#art#spookysart#ticci toby x jeff the killer#jeff the killer x ticci toby#jeff x toby#toby x jeff
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everyone stop what you’re doing and ponder lily evans w me. i’ve been rotating this quote for the last two months:
i’ve been thinking about it in relation to the way that lily is portrayed both within the books and within the fandom. the way she’s dismembered, split into all these different pieces (her green eyes, the power of her motherly love, her intelligence etc etc) and each of these pieces is exalted, nigh on idolised even. the way this means that the sum of these parts is something that is simultaneously more and less than a woman.
she’s a mother, she’s a wife, she’s a martyr, she’s a muggleborn, she’s head girl, she’s a sister, she’s a witch. she’s all of these things to the absolute utmost - every facet of her, every segment into which she’s cut, is put on a pedestal, she is the epitome of all of these separate things, and because of this she can never be Real. Tangible. Whole.
it’s like this:

over their dead bodies - kensuke koike
she’s more than a woman bc she’s made up of all these individually flawless parts of different women that have been projected onto her…. but she’s less than a woman for the same reason. she’s never complete. she’s a near-deity. she’s a fantasy. she’s everywhere and nowhere in the narrative. she’s dead. she’s alive in all these segments. she’s a fraction of a whole. she’s like trying to do a brand-new puzzle that’s still missing a good third of the pieces. she’s a ‘beautiful monster composed of every individual perfection.’
link to article in which i encountered the quote & link to article from which the quote originates (they’re both beautiful jstor articles about bestie petrarch and the way he portrays laura. haven’t acc read the second one (although i plan to soon!!) but the vickers article has enraptured me to an insane degree so if anyone’s interested i really recommend. might not make much sense if you haven’t read the rvf, but they’re so so interesting!!)
#this quote HAUNTS ME!!! day and night!!!!!#and this isn’t even going into the implications this has for sociopath lily….. i texted jen this quote the day we started talking about tl#perhaps one of the most important days in the history of the universe…… ANYWAY#sorry if this is written pretentiously….. it’s bc i am pretentious. also we’re like by proxy talking about petrarch here…. im allowed to be#pretentious about petrarch. i’ve got the ‘pleasure to read’ comments on my essays about him to back me up#lily evans#lily#lily potter#lily evans potter
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"Eurylochus is so dumb" Eurylochus' biggest flaw was that he trusted Odysseus thought his and their men's happiness just as important as his own
#tam rambles#epic the musical#eurylochus epic the musical#Eurylochus#This isn't meant to bash Ody#But he is a flawed person#And even if he DID think Eurylochus' happiness was just as important as his and Penelope's#He'd always ultimately choose their happiness over Eury's (And by proxy Ctimene's)#THAT is Odysseus biggest flaw but also best attribute#He's selfish#He did everything for his penelope's and telemachus' happiness#Everything. Even if it meant sacrificing everyone else's#Moral grayness >>>>>
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anyway I think it's an actual crime they cannot kiss in canon
#i ended up getting a few mods. nothing that edits the story but some interface stuff for stats#I also got the morgana real cat overworld talk portrait mod#that one is really important to me since i love morgana#.. also a shut up nav mod#ily morgana but if I have to tolerate futaba from now on I'd rather not hear her voice#on ng+ I might do the gay joker mod. goker.#or now maybe because *none* of the romancables interest me.#except maybe Ann! Ann is super likable.#anyway tag time#ren amamiya#morgana#ryuji sakamoto#persona 5#pegoryu#by proxy really
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SNIFFING DAT MAN GOALS HAVE FINALLY BEEN ACHIEVED, ( excuse winter date kara staring into your soul. )
#ya'll.... it smells so good you don't understand....#first perfume to actually make me understand what top middle & last notes mean#it smells really similar to cool water for women and arrogant by english laundry...#which is really funny bc i used to wear both of those perfumes 😭#i really love fragrances so i feel like i'd get into collecting them as a hobby if they weren't so damn expensive#... i say as i'm willing to import merch of this damn muppet man#anyways i used rinkya as a proxy for this one specifically bc they're able to import stuff that's alcohol-based#my usual proxy can't do that so this sight was a god send#also i finally started to set up one of my nerd shelfs so winter date kara is free from his plastic bag now#i'm rationing this shit like it's the last bottle of potable water on the planet#especially since i know a good dupe#i could probably get a similar smell by layering those two fragrances i mentioned before#osmt#karamatsu#merch#mj rambles
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Zenless Zone Zero allowing me to replay cutscenes is very important because I have been studying the 1.6 main quest a lot over the past couple of days with a friend and holy shit there’s a good bit one might miss on a single play through.
On a completely related note: I’m never allowed to call my own prose “purple” ever again because I have absolutely NOTHING on Maurice Leblanc.
#ren rambles#zzzero#zzz 1.6#spoilers in tags#not me casually diving headfirst into the arsene lupin series to figure out what the hell is going on with Hugo lmao#I’m specifically trying to read The Secret of Sarek and. Maurice. my guy. less words can convey the same fucking thing#I may need to read some more opinions about the quest but I haven’t seen anyone point out#that Hugo is aware of the Proxies’ connection to Carole Arna and that he believes that Carole did not erupt Hollow Zero#also I’m like 90% sure the mayor is trapping the Proxies and it’s not just because of Vivian’s vision#he installed spyware on the HDD and no one can convince me otherwise until 1.7#also everyone finding reasons to vilify Hugo (including Hugo himself)#like??? he’s a character that’s going to be hard to put on a page because his /tone/ is just as important as his /words/#his VA absolutely killed it this patch I’m so proud of him#going back to Lupin real quick: the reason I’m reading the secret of Sarek is because it deals with a radioactive ‘god stone’#that turns people into monsters#which???? SOUNDS A FUCKING LOT LIKE THE GODDAMN SACRIFICE CORE#and there’s a mention of mistletoe and I’m like 85% sure that’s what’s in the bird’s beak on mockingbird’s emblem#and the auction theft scene!!!! god how could I forget that????#I’m of the mind that the /coat/ the core was pinned on was Hugo’s dad’s because of the emphasis he put on /rightfully mine/#anyways zzz update has me by the throat
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Shane, to Lori.
#sharick#the walking dead#twd#rick grimes#shane walsh#toxic old men yaoi#they are so important to me#love by proxy#the only explanation possible to the whole Lori/Shane thing
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i've actually been thinking for like a month about writing a fic where tim and dick find out they both have fucked jason at least once and dick has a really weird really uncomfortable realization
#tebeoposting#sleeping with someone by proxy but evil#anyway the best thing here is that jason still loses ♥️ he will never be the most important person in the room.
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this message from last night perfectly sums up not only this au but nearly all of the ones i have i think
#i dont have time to do anything but im thinking so much and like. yeah#sorry you expect me to put michael + by proxy the aftons into a series of different horrors#and you want me to pretend he's just BEHAVING NORMALLY??#i don't think he knows how.#it's always either 'something main plot esque is happening on the side but that's not important rn#only michael can be concerned with that' or 'So I've Made It Ten Times Worse'#as always flexible by portrayal of course but the spiralling is incurable 💀#⁂ ・゚: i was looking for a job‚ and then i found a job‚ and heaven knows i’m miserable now ➛ ooc
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Charli PUH-lease I am begging you, bring him to the grammys. I don't care if you have to drag him there, I need mom and dad together on my television screen!!!!
#tbh i don't think she'd have to drag him lol#cos this is the most important night of her career so far#nominated for seven awards and George nominated for one by proxy#i'm planning a viewing party at my house#ya'll should pull up#charli xcx#george daniel#yapping
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Please watch, share and donate anything you can. A little can go a long way when everyone makes the choice - we can always do more 🇸🇩 Free Sudan
The linktree I’ve linked has 2 options at the top of the list for donating to Sudan, one for children and one for medical
#free sudan#how to help sudan#sudanese genocide#sudan#🇸🇩#free oppressed people#free 🇸🇩#eyes on sudan#donate#donations#help#human rights#activism#community#blm#black lives matter#Sudanese#sudanese refugees#sudanese civil war#important#amplify#please share#share#please donate#share this#proxy war#war#sudan updates#donate to Sudan#help sudan
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