#iteration rambling

[roquog]

I'm tired of tall people. No one is over 5 10.

[ID: Hight chart for the characters of OP's TMNT iteration. Raph is 142 cm, Splinter is 170 cm, Donnie is 163 cm, Casey is 146 cm, Mikey is 169 cm, April is 165 cm, and Leo is 155 cm. End ID]

[lara-cairncross]

take so good im posting it here too

[ctwinsduo]

woe cwilbur be upon ye. as promised here are my designs for every cwil era/stage/what have you + my reasons behind each design. design breakdown will be under the read more :>

as a disclaimer going forward: these designs are heavily informed by my own headcanons (namely the nature spirit headcanon, which i will only briefly explain here- if you want more of a background on that here's where I first shared the hc and explained it a bit) i'll be honest idk how much of these hcs/analysis abides by canon? so if you prefer to closely abide by canon this may not be for you. having said that, let's get into this. So one question that may initially come to mind when looking over this is "Why a nature spirit?" which is a reasonable question all things considered. I've already gone over the Watsonian explanation in the past, so instead I'll cover the Doylist take- which is more interesting as it pertains to these designs. Wilbur, as I see her, is a character that has many faces- she warps and changes to embody the view of herself she sees as necessary for the situation, whether that be the revolutionary or the villain. Simultaneously he has this core that's deeply eccentric and often difficult for the characters around him to grasp- this can come in the form of benign weirdness to the struggles with mental illness we see him go through throughout his various arcs. There's this push and pull between the person they want to portray and who they are fundamentally that's always at play.

Them being a nature spirit embodies this to an extreme. As a nature spirit their physical form is informed by their self perception (the one that's warped by the role they feel they need to take) and their own mental state, both aspects of the character that are foundational.

Another question that may arise upon reading all of this is "Why not just make him a shapeshifter?" which is also a valid question. Truthfully this one is rooted heavily in my own ideas of the character, so you'll have to take that with a grain of salt. I am, unfortunately, prone to making shit up /lh With that in mind however, the reason I choose nature spirit over shapeshifter is that, the way I interpret it, it's much more... animalistic? Let me explain: the way I tend to see shapeshifters portrayed is either a. having a base form that's relatively humanoid and then multiple other forms or b. having no base form but still presenting as generally humanoid. As a nature spirit Wilbur has a natural (ba-dum-tsss) tie to well... nature, and all that lives within it.

She's this manifestation of the wilderness whose form isn't even naturally human, yet she shapes herself into something presenting as such. As a nature spirit Wilbur occupies this weird nebulous space between human and beast, never fully embodying either. I find this incredibly interesting for a character that wants to feel and to be treated as human so badly, one that also clearly resents being seen as monstrous (despite leaning into that perception of themselves)

TLDR; Wilbur's 50 contradictions in a trenchcoat (literally) and being a nature spirit gives these contradictions/masks/ect. a physical manfiestation Now that we're 500+ words of analysis in, let me breakdown each individual stage :3 /lh

Pre-SMP + L'manburg

The most "human" Wilbur ever gets here- technically these two are different designs/eras but they have similar design notes so I'm lumping them together here

During this stage of his life Wilbur has a fairly good handle on his shapeshifting and is consciously choosing to look more human

Small details like the fangs, pointed ears, claws, and pupils allude to an inhuman nature. I like to think there's something uncanny valley about them- they look human but the longer you look at them the more small discrepancies you notice

Both look relatively generic appearance wise, if you can't tell this was Wilbur's "I am a Normal Human Man era" but with slightly more gender /lh

Decided to stick Wilbur in a different outfit Pre-SMP than the actual skin most people reference, mostly because I thought it'd be fun. The trenchcoat follows her throughout her development

Lots of goofy ass patches and pins on the coat

I personally hc that Wilbur always has some sort of oversized clothes on because it's a bit like a security blanket for him, very grounding and all that- anyways that's what the trenchcoat is here

Limited notes on L'manburg era- main thing is the glasses; they got cracked in conflict and they just never bothered to fix em

Pogtopia

As a result of stress (and personal perception) Wilbur lost control over his shifting entirely

Wilbur views their nature as inherently monstrous, thus when they think of themselves as monstrous or evil they lose most of their human appearance

Much taller in this form than usual, this reflects both how she feels she's perceived and how she perceives herself (monstrous, scary, inhuman, ect. ect.)

Their height also serves to emphasis the claustrophobic nature of the ravine and especially the button room

Eye color changes from brown to red, yet again another thing which reflects his self loathing

Coat is the same one worn pre-smp, just with some adjustments

Pins & patches removed from the jacket (my friend suggested it saying that he "ripped them out because they were too happy" and I find that mental image particularly silly so it stays)

Covered in stains, partially because the ravine is just. awful. and partially because this thing is not taking care of herself even a little bit

Lenses are even more cracked than they were during the revolution

Ghostbur

This section has a lot less points then the others on account of Ghostbur being fairly self explanatory, but shhhhhh

Reverted to "base form" post death, form is extremely fluid as a ghost- she tends to shift depending on the topic of conversation or the person she's speaking with (Explain being: whenever she talks about "alivebur" she becomes more human)

Less of a note and more rambling: fox ghostbur is especially fun to me given the hatred Wilbur has for Ghostbur. Ghostbur physically reflecting the parts of Wilbur that they hate the most in themselves

For Wilbur their base form- just a normal widdle fox- represents vulnerability. It is quite literally a small, fuzzy animal with little means to defend itself and it is also the culmination of everything Wilbur is running from. Ghostbur embraces this form fully yet is seen as more palatable by the people around her than Wilbur ever was

Constantly leaking a jammy, blue substance from his eyes and the cut in his chest, yucky

Especially long sections of "fur" like their tail and the back of their neck are constantly "dripping" little wisps like rain

Post-Revival

Post-revival his shifting is still fucked up (thank the mental illness for that) but he's got a slightly better handle on it, enough to look semi-human

Eyes have reverted back to brown but their lenses are tinted red anyways (often looks red)

The coat makes a comeback, edges are all fucked up from the explosion

That funky little overcoat/cloak/ect. got yoinked by Niki

Disheveled appearance meant to reflect her rancid ass mental state- namely the hair and the facial hair. Hair is grown out because she can't be bothered to cut it (you bet that shit is full of knots)

Nasty awful smeared eyeshadow as a treat <3 (I just think he deserves to be a little cunty yk?)

Got a little tired near the end here which is why the points got a bit sloppy, maybe I'll add more at a later date who knows. If you made it this far I hope you at least enjoyed reading all of this :>

[djpachipikachu]

uuau redesigning yikes

fun fact an ability of bakoneko is that they can lead wolves and get them to attack travellers in the mountains ! and thats. yeah keiko does that too

[kaysdenofchaos]

Teenage Meddling Mutant Turtles: Quiet Down Now,

Don't be a nuisance. Fight it 'til the only thing in your heart is emptiness.

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[redonionlover]

sunstone..? perhaps???

anon ur so real for this... they're my faves since i first played rw

havent drawn them in a loong time though so i doodled these real quick :^)

[sereinreality]

my headcancon is that when both sherlock and john were kids and getting bullied at school, they were asked if they had any friends at all. then in that moment the both of them unknowingly describes the other.

[002yb]

Thinking again about all the Dick and Jason things that could've been. Where Dick leaves Robin behind because the mantle becomes a cage, all burdens and expectations; because shame weighs heavy on him for twisting an endearment into a weapon, a tool, a monster. Where Dick doesn't walk away so much as he runs because he doesn't recognize himself in those colors. Because he's not anything bright or good or hopeful anymore. And he doesn't know when he lost those parts of himself (doesn't know if he killed them, buried them).

(Wrong. He was told to leave because Batman didn't need a Robin like Dick).

So Dick leaves Robin behind. He leaves behind the weight of it because he can't carry it anymore. Has it stripped from him because Dick can’t fit the mold he made. Not good enough, not good enough, never good enough.

And then Jason comes to him as Robin and Dick is confronted by everything Dick lost of himself and everything he runs from. Dick wants to ignore him, keep his distance, but Robin is always flitting around him, eager to please. Bright-eyed and filled with wonder.

Just Dick being made aware of all the ways he comes up short and being overcome by a sense of inferiority (to complement Jason; they’re both trying to live up to unattainable standards that they see in each other).

Dick doesn't mean to resent him, but he does. And he's not the sort to get angry, but it's better than being hurt.

But Robin stays with him despite how ugly he gets because he sees through the anger to the anguish just beneath. He wears Dick down until he breaks. Because Robin--Jason--reminds him of what Robin was always meant to be: dear.

That's how Jason treats Robin. That's how Jason treats Dick.

It's how Dick learns to treat Jason and later, himself. Because he's more than a weapon, more than a mantle.

Jason enduring Dick at his worst and celebrating him at his best and enjoying him during all the mundanity that comes in between. Jason not being scared of what little amounts to Dick's humanity (violent and volatile beneath the veneer, the gilding). There's something dark there, but Jason doesn't care and that's--it's so damn liberating.

Good enough. He's good enough. He's good.

Despite the disappointment of not being much of a hero. Despite how Dick might not be much of a man at all.

Just Dick healing some of the hurt and broken parts of himself and mending his relationship with Robin while building a relationship with Jason--his Robin; his light, his hope and humanity.

And then Jason is taken away and everything good and dear goes with him.

[moodymuu]

Different types of Sigs that I see people draw

It’s like he goes from the original to a giant rectangle/square and I love it XD. I see the original more often for obvious reasons, that’s what he looks like (maybe) but it also makes me happy to see people turn him into a fucking rectangular shape or give him the fattest hands known to man to crush people’s skulls. Idk what or who started it but they shall be PRAISED.

I know there is more variety out there but these are the most common designs that I see. For all I know I could have missed Sig being a twink ANYWAYS found it cute

The only reason I draw Sig w a square head is because I saw one artist do it and I said oh shit that looks fabulous. I know what the artist art looks like BUT IDK THEIR NAME TVT

[redfirefox-55]

THE SEMESTER IS FINALLY OVER I’M FREEEE

No more complaining about school and stress from school and art block from school!! Not for awhile anyway since I’m probably gonna take a gap year because life is crazy-

[roquog]

I didn't realize how dire things were in the tmnt iteration tags

[ID: A previous drawing by OP as a preview for the quick access to the tag "tmnt fan iteration". End ID]

He's always watching

[ID: The tag's mobile page with a sliver of the same artwork as it's header. Only the drawing subject's eyes are visible. End ID.]

[ashykneecaps6]

Obsessed with the yaelokre art style and media lately, so I had to draw my guy in a similar aesthetic/style

Anyways chat, time for me to disappear for another week byee

[funkytrashsuperstructure]

Can I talk about this image from Rivulet's ending for a second?

(edited to add a break because the post is very Long TM)

If Five Pebbles knows that you are delivering the Rarefaction Cell, Moon pulls this message up alongside the dialogue;

"I cannot run away from my mistakes forever; Please understand." Five Pebbles, what have you done… I've been given so much already, and now you've given all you had left.

Based off of Moon's dialogue, this seems to be an inbox of some sort. We can assume that the orange symbol is basically Five Pebbles' profile picture. Which would mean that the pictures to the side are unread messages from other iterators, some more clear than others.

Based on what we know of other iterators, it is probably safe to assume that the green diamonds are No Significant Harassment, while the red sun is, well, Seven Red Suns. We also see that Pebbles' message got greyed out when Moon opened it. Now, this is all well and good for understanding another aspect of how iterator communication works, that being that they can basically send emails to each other. However, that brings up a few questions; one, who the hell is this blue iterator?

This iterator's symbol is a bit different from the rest, seeming to have the third and fourth karma symbol in their profile picture, alongside a diamond in between. There are three possibilities in my mind. I'll go from most likely to least likely:

This is Chasing/Grey Wind, trying to check up on Moon before or after her collapse. This would make sense, based on their dialogue in the pearls.

This is Unparalleled Innocence. Despite being a jerk to Pebbles, perhaps they checked on Moon at some point.

This is Looks to the Moon, sending a message to herself, perhaps in hopes of using the inbox as a secondary form of memory if she is able to access it. The inbox has at least lasted all this time, for as long as the broadcast networks have been down.

My second question would be; what is the content of the messages from Sig and Suns? I believe that, for Sig's messages, they're the broadcasts that we see him send to Moon before her collapse. However, they could also be Sig's attempts to get the slag reset keys to her without needing his messenger to do it.

As for Suns, they could be apologizing to Moon for what had happened. After all, they were indirectly responsible for her collapse.

I suppose my ultimate takeaway from all of this is; I like getting a glimpse at what iterators can do, and how they interface with each other and the world. I also enjoy speculating about trivial things, lol.

Anyways, thank you for reading my ramblings. It means a lot. Now, though, I must return to my work (aka calculus homework :P). Have a good night y'all!

[djpachipikachu]

[entering the land of the old gods]

[usagi yojimbo: yatagarasu (usagi era concept art #1)]

> “sandy down here, neh, spot?”

[spot keeps climbing down]

> “well, it will only be for the night…i wonder if anyone still lives in these caves?”

[spot keeps climbing down]

> “do you think they are alright being alone down here? if they do still live here.”

[spot keeps climbing down]

[maryymaruu]

Trying to work on bringing in the rest of my itty ocs, but it's really hard all things considered. Outside and inside factors-

I thought I had ADOE figured out, but suddenly I don't think I know who they are as a character anymore. At least IR is not giving me much internal troubles, she's full of personality~

[unforth]

There's another post getting popular on this hellsite that boils down to, "in my anecdotal experience every child is perfectly reasonable as long as you just treat them as a tiny adult" and I'm ready to scream.

Actually mental illnesses are still mental illnesses! No matter how you treat the mentally ill person sometimes they will still show symptoms of being mentally ill because they are mentally ill! Yes even children!

I swear the minute it's about parents or children all the ~uwu take care of yourself~ acceptance crowd on Tumblr instantly reverts back to ableism and cultural Christianity - because obviously children are perfect and pure beings who are only misbehaving because the adults around them, especially their parents, aren't ~doing it right~ aren't ~trying hard enough~ actually mental illness just comes from parent fuck-ups ~obviously~. So any parent that isn't perfect 24/7 is bad and any kid is perfect until an adult messes them up. And yall haven't even unpacked your attitudes enough to realize that's the logical conclusion of these "well I work with kids and I just listen to them and everything goes perfect" posts and never fuckin reblog my angry posts where I try to point it out and I am absolutely fucking exhausted yall are exhausting. Sometimes, for parents with mental illnesses, the mental illness mental illnesses! Sometimes, for kids with mental illnesses, the mental illness mental illnesses! If your premise is "the only problem with kids is how the adults around them treat them" you are completely disconnected from reality.

It's ableist.

It's ableist.

I.t. i.s. a.b.l.e.i.s.t.

I am *begging* yall to think for five minutes before you make yet another "well I saw a kid in the grocery store crying and I asked them what was wrong and they were fine after we talked so clearly this is the secret to parenting" post viral on the 2% of people have children website. Just accept you don't know jackshit about parenting, shut the fuck up, and stop spreading ableist garbage!