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gayofthefae · 17 days ago
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People say they don't like Mike because he's become inconsistent but I think it's really because he's the MOST consistent.
You don't miss who he used to be, you can't. He is that person now. Gentle, angry, strategic, leading, defensive, kind.
He seems inconsistent in contrast to those around him because he is clinging to that person he was. He misses "season 2 Mike" too, he's just going about it all wrong.
The thing they don't like is the symptoms of the fact that he hasn't changed. And from 12 to 15, a person SHOULD. That's often when people do the MOST and he HASN'T.
THAT'S what's off-putting. The clinging. They want him to go back to how he was but that's actually the problem. He needs to allow himself to grow into what his actual inclinations are instead of holding onto who he was and how he felt about people when he was 12 years old.
His relationships aren't strained because he's changing. They're strained because you're supposed to grow together and only one of them is allowing themselves to grow at all.
He's so terrified of who he wants to become that he's forced himself to stay who he was. You're seeing a failure to be who he was, but the solution to that isn't success at it, it's allowing himself to be who he is now.
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uhgo6d · 7 months ago
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Very convenient that Lucas is always at the crime scene, and the camera always focuses on his reaction.
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This one is so- I need to put the whole reaction, a pic isn't enough. That boy is having flashbacks.
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Lucas has a lot to talk about with Eleven too.
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wibble-wobbegong · 2 years ago
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tldr for that big ass analysis earlier mr michael wheeler wont go for will over el bc he hasnt learned to prioritize his need to be his truest self over his loyalty to his friend and the one time he got close was when will made him feel as though he was a person deserving of being himself and more than someone who exists to please others and then “you’re the heart” happened and mike was incredibly betrayed and felt lied to because he knows el would never say that and he thought will did but then will confirmed he didnt so mike lost value in himself and reverted to a people pleaser and gave his speech to el
he’s coco loco bro
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gayofthefae · 26 days ago
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"See how you're leading us here?" - Will Byers, season 4 episode 8
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stranger things (2016-2025)
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castlebyersthoughts · 7 days ago
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Let's do a quick comparison of El's and Will's first and last scenes...
First shot of season 4:
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(El painting Hopper's figurine for her diorama vs Will making a romantic painting for Mike)
Last one on one scene of season 4:
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What we know of season 5:
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In conclusion, once again, El's personal arc is about family more than romance and her relationship with Hopper seems to be what the writers are focusing on. Will's arc is about romantic love and his feelings for Mike. This kinda spells out how the ending of the love triangle, don't you think? Why would the writers focus on those two pairings in the last season of the show if Mike and El are supposed to be this endgame power couple? Why did Mike promise to be a team and to kill Vecna with his best friend who's secretely in love with him instead of his superhero girlfriend? Where exactly is the supposed "main couple of the show"?
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vihbrj · 2 months ago
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Besides the ship, this is one of the most beautiful shoots in the entire series.
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gayofthefae · 6 months ago
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Thinking about how a season has to change something from point A to point B and Mike and El's relationship in season 3.
3x01: Mike and El were happy together with no issues
3x08: Mike and El are happy together with no issues
cannot be it.
And "Mike is scared of her breaking his heart" can't be it either. Because that's a reveal, not a change. An arc has to be that he learned something. We know he didn't come to terms with whatever he claims to have in season 4 because that's the whole point - that he doesn't know in season 4.
So the question narratively is, what does season 3 exist for for them?
From El's line in 3x04 it seems like they needed to break up for a different reason so that she could realize she likes being single, but she isn't really who we're talking about here. Because she doesn't apply that knowledge by ending the show single.
But while at the beginning of season 3, Mike is fighting to get back/stay with El seemingly, I think the change is from trying to feeling trapped. Season 2 is him getting a taste of that relationship with Will to learn it's what he really wants before suppressing that. Season 3 is him getting a taste of a friendship with El to learn that it's what he really wants (before suppressing that).
Actually, let's just talk about Mike changes:
Mike starts season 1 thinking of El as a scientific discovery and ends thinking of her as a person (Finn's words)
Mike starts season 2 thinking of Will platonically and ends (however consciously) thinking of him romantically.
Mike starts season 3 thinking of El romantically and ends (however consciously) thinking of her platonically.
Mike starts season 4 not what to do with that information and ends knowing exactly what to do (but being prevented from doing it).
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gayofthefae · 1 year ago
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Thinking about this and Mike thinking the painting is from El and the words are from El but still falling in love with Will as the one who chose to say them. Even if El called him a hero behind his back, Will is the one who chose in that moment to say it to his face to make him feel good. So stuck on this idea of Mike falling in love with Will's intention to make him feel happy and not being distracted by who's credited.
anyone else up thinking about how mike wheeler dreams about being seen as a hero and being good enough to protect the ones he loves and how he thinks he’ll never be deserving of love until he proves himself worthy of it meanwhile will already sees him as his knight in shining armor and paints him a picture just to show him how loved he already is
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therainscene · 22 days ago
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I didn't start shipping Byler because I picked up on a few moments of chemistry and decided they'd make a cute couple -- I started off by absolutely refusing to entertain said moments as reciprocally queer until I ran into the ridiculous homophobia on the ST subreddit and decided to review Mike's character arc out of sheer gay spite.
Let me clarify: Spite isn't what made me change my mind about Mike. Spite just made me read a few Byler analyses and rewatch the show with an open mind because I didn't want to be like those pricks who would insult and censor queer fans for... [checks notes]... thinking something gay might happen in a TV show with gay people in it. I truly wasn't expecting a queer interpretation to fit Mike's arc anywhere near as well as the default interpretation -- but by the time I'd finished my rewatch, I was reeling from how much better it fit.
Cause that's the thing: Mike's queerness is pretty obvious once you look for it. The difficulty is in giving yourself permission to look.
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A question Bylers are often asked is "why would the show spend four seasons building up Milevn just to tear it down at the last minute for some unrealistic woke ship? Mike literally said he loves El!" And yeah, Mike's grand love confession at the end of S4 certainly seems like a triumphant pay-off to all that build-up... but I have a few questions of my own.
Firstly: why establish in no uncertain terms that feeling loved is the key to unlocking El's fullest potential against Vecna--
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--only to undermine the power of Mike's longed-for confession by having it only be good enough to delay Vecna instead of defeat him? Yes, it's the penultimate season -- so why did Milevn's pay-off happen here instead of S5 where it could properly shine?
Secondly: why couldn't Milevn fix their relationship by themselves? Even if you believe that El commissioned the painting (she didn't) and that the feelings Will describes are truly hers (they aren't), it was still Will who had to perform this romantic gesture on her behalf, and it broke his heart to do so. Why hand this important work off to a third party? Why weave queer tragedy into the build-up towards a heterosexual pay-off that's supposed to feel triumphantly romantic?
Speaking of which: why undermine the intimacy of this scene by having Will hover behind Mike's shoulder the whole time? Couldn't they have asked Noah to take a few steps to the left for the sake of a better shot? Couldn't they have waited until after Milevn's big romantic moment to remind us for the millionth fucking time how sad Will is about it?
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In my opinion, this scene and its four seasons of build-up make much more sense if you read them as three entwined character arcs about the trials of growing up in a suffocatingly heteronormative era: the gay kid who doesn't think he's entitled to a happy ending; the abused girl who thinks shallow romance with the first boy who's nice to her will make her feel normal; and the confused hero who hasn't figured out the solution yet.
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For all the insistence that this show has to stick to "realistic" depictions of 80s queerness... it's hardly a realistic depiction of 80s straightness for Mike to score an awesome magical girlfriend, either. That's just nerdy wish-fulfillment, and common only as a trope in fiction.
So it's not unreasonable to suppose that Mike's true role in the Subverting 80s Tropes Show might be to represent the actually very realistic 80s experience of getting swept up in compulsory heterosexuality.
Think about it: Will's vulnerability to the horrors functions as a metaphor for being visibly gay in a world that despises gay people--
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--whereas Mike's girlfriend quite literally has the power to protect him from monsters and homophobic bullies alike.
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This doesn't mean Mike is callously using El, though. He learned the hard way in S1 that treating an innocent girl like a means to an end would only end up destroying her, and the guilt and fear of hurting her again has been weighing heavy on him ever since.
Comphet isn't about taking advantage of other people's feelings so you can pretend to be straight -- it's about deluding yourself into believing you're straight because queerness isn't an option you're allowed to consider.
Mike genuinely does love El and he genuinely does want to be an important part of her life -- so surely that means he wants to be her boyfriend, right? Twelve is perhaps a little young to know that yet... but surely there's gotta be something here that sets his feelings apart from how a friend or brother would feel?
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Surely the reason he later finds himself struggling to say to her face that he loves her is because he's just an immature loser who needs to try harder to grow up and be the man this girl he adores deserves to have...?
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...and certainly not because the guilt and fear of losing her just keeps piling up as the romantic instincts he thinks he's been waiting to grow into turn out to be developing at exactly the pace they're supposed to -- in the wrong direction.
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That would be ridiculous. Will's his best friend. Yes, he loves him and can't bear to be without him, but that doesn't mean anything. Why can't a guy display a little unhinged devotion to his special friend without it having to mean something romantic?
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Why can't he, indeed.
At his core, Mike is someone who desperately wants to be as special as the straight heroes in the nerdy media he loves. But there isn't anything inherently heroic about being some lame middle-class white nerd who's bad with girls, so he believes that the best he can do is to be a dutiful sidekick who would sacrifice himself in a heartbeat for people he perceives as more special than himself.
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For all the "build-up" Mike's romance with El has enjoyed across four seasons, it's done absolutely nothing to help him grow as a character and overcome this self-worth problem.
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So is it really any surprise that even after realizing El would be fine and still want to be friends with him if he told her the truth, and even after realizing just how good Will is at understanding his insecurities and reassuring him of his inherent worth--
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--Mike would still sacrifice his chance at happiness for the sake of the greater good?
El was literally dying in his arms. How could queer desire possibly be as important as this girl who needed him to be a man and do his damn job so she could do hers?
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I'm interpreting Mike as gay here, but I think it's important to note that this principle applies even if he's bi or straight -- Mike can be attracted to girls and still be forcing himself to stay in a relationship with a girl he's not a good romantic match for because that's just what he thinks he's supposed to do.
His sister had a similar problem: Nancy was legitimately attracted to Steve, but her infatuation with him was more about doing what cool teen girls are supposed do than about authentic connection. And because this is a horror story as much a coming-of-age story, Wheeler's conformity had horrendous consequences -- her critical-of-comphet bestie was killed by the horrors.
Which sounds familiar, doesn't it?
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(Sure, Max technically didn't die -- but she still died enough for Vecna's plan to come to fruition. Which just brings us back to my first question: why couldn't the Power of Heterosexual Love prevent this? In the same season that said "forced conforming is what's killing the kids", no less?)
Will describes Vecna as an inevitability that won't stop until he's taken everyone -- which in my opinion is the same defeatist attitude demanded by comphet.
It's not that Mr. Refuses-To-Participate-In-Society's-Silly-Play symbolizes comphet itself, per se; rather, he represents the despair of feeling like you can't truly escape it. But either way, this means that the solution to defeating Vecna is the same solution to defeating comphet:
Giving yourself permission to look and see that your true self is far more valuable than whatever you think you're supposed to be.
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wibble-wobbegong · 2 years ago
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Something something tell me about the relationship between sense of duty and self preservation when Mike wants to present himself as El's perfect nice het boyf. I know he's so so aware of this dilemma and may or not be mentally shitting on himself for it but I am very curious on how you think it is playing out otherwise🤔🤔🤔
*cracks my knuckles* it’s been a while but im feeling impassioned about my boy rn. forgive me if this is cruddy
When we’re looking at these two pieces of Mike, it’s important to understand that it’s rather paradoxical. I’ve failed to explain this before, but I think I finally have the words for it.
So, as far as Mike’s sense of duty, we’re all well aware that it’s very intense. When he feels like he must be dutiful or that he owes someone, he does so with a vigor that’s unmatched by any other character. What he decides as deserving of his loyalty, however, is not something that’s always perceived as fair by the audience. Most of us, as far as I have seen, agree that Mike should have been loyal to Lucas and gone to his games, but Mike clearly doesn’t agree with that sentiment. He felt betrayed by Lucas as he joined the basketball team and yearned for popularity rather than him continuing to be a full fledged nerd like Mike.
Lucas was Mike’s rock throughout S3, which is when we saw him following the route of normalcy alongside Lucas. Or attempting to do so. Their mutual feeling of betrayal is rooted in Mike returning to his truer self whilst Lucas does the same– they just happen to desire different things in life. Lucas wants to be treated like everybody else and be able to balance his nerdier side and a more stereotypical life, which we see him attempt to do in S4. Of course, at the end, Lucas comes to understand that popularity and such is not what he expected it to be. That doesn’t mean he didn’t want it, he just has a morality that is stronger than his wants for security.
Mike, on the other hand, doesn’t and never has actually wanted to be normal. It’s been a thing he’s forced himself to be and proceeded to fail miserably in doing so. He isn’t and doesn’t want the popularity and sense of belonging in stereotypical groups, and it’s painted in the argument scene between Mike and Dustin vs Lucas where we witness Mike hanging his head as though he understands Lucas’ wants, which Lucas would hope he would, but he can’t bring himself to prioritize this over his sense of betrayal.
This is all to demonstrate that Mike has carried his personal value of loyalty all the way to S4 from S1, so it’s an immovable trait of his, even as it evolves. However, he still deeply cares about his friends, even if he does feel betrayed. In S1, despite believing El had betrayed him, he didn’t kick her out to the streets. He was clearly upset with her, but not enough to risk putting her in serious danger. With Lucas, he’s upset as well, but we see the guilt clouding him fighting against the anger he feels. The difference between these two situations is that Mike feels as though Lucas chose to leave whereas El didn’t leave. The level of danger is different, sure, but Lucas still risked himself by approaching these people who reflect those who bullied the Party in the past. Mike has changed over time, and his bottled up emotions and inability to let himself truly free has built up and his anger has started to outshine his deeper sense of loyalty.
That being said, we also see Mike’s dedication differ based on how much he believes he owes a person. In El’s case, he owes her a lot. She brought Will home to him and he had promised her a relationship. She has saved them countless times. She’s a superhero. Mike’s devotion to El is much stronger than anybody else as a result. He has prioritized her over everybody else in his life, even the people who make him happier, because he knows El desires this with him. El has given him no reason to feel betrayed for 3 of the 4 seasons, and Mike grew to care about her very quickly. When Mike cares, he cares a lot. He carries intense emotions about basically everything and tends to overreact, which can come out as spurts of anger or sadness, but it can also be seen as pushing himself to do an unnecessary amount for El specifically, in recency.
Here’s where it gets somewhat paradoxical. Mike’s sense of duty is strong, but as a result he’s become unable to express himself with anybody. You’d think that Mike’s duty would become central to Will, and we know that it is as soon as El is gone. It’s made clear in S2. Unlike anybody else, Will has the unique trait of being Mike’s best friend. He’s the only person Mike will allow himself to open up to, and we saw that with his explosions in S3 and his softness in S4, especially in the van. Mike has to protect himself and this identity he upholds when he’s with El so her happiness is maintained, but his dynamic with Will means he’s able to actually express himself and rely on Will– those emotions tend to be negative and sometimes hurtful because all of it gets laid onto Will. All his frustrations and problems are talked through with Will because he’s the only person Mike can trust in such a way.
As a result, we see Mike painted as selfish and a shitty friend to Will. We know Mike is willing to be there for Will when he truly needs it and we know Mike wants to be there, which we see in S2 and S4 (regardless of whether or not he called, he still listened to Will and made amends). S3 is a unique situation of Mike being incredibly stressed and feeling as though he has to isolate himself from this either part of him entirely in order to maintain his persona of El’s boyfriend. This gets taken out on Will as well. A major part of this is that Mike views his entire self as unworthy of being El’s boyfriend, so he attempts to mold himself into the person he believes she deserves, but this means cutting out anything not considered normal. Obviously Will was insisting on doing things the old way of the Party, which he shouldn’t be blamed for whatsoever, but on an even deeper level Will is tied to who Mike truly is as a person and he refuses to change himself, meaning Mike can’t swerve his way around that part of himself so he feels as though he needs to suppress and even abandon Will (somewhat). When Will digs his heels into the ground and tugs on Mike, desperate to bring back the boy he knew, Mike gets pissed off and yells. This is quickly overtaken by his care for Will, which is why he runs after him.
Mike cares about Will, but he was warring with himself over who he thinks he’s supposed to be versus who he actually is. El is representative of his commitment to those he loves, but Will is representative of the freedom of self. Mike has been struggling to balance these two for so long because they’re core parts of who he is. He values his sense of duty in the highest regard but there is nobody who doesn’t want to be themself deep down. Mike has not yet learned to prioritize his sense of self over his sense of duty due to his own belief that he isn’t special or worth loving when he is himself, so he allows himself to be overcome with his duty.
We’ve seen him acknowledge that he recognizes his shitty behavior and wants to be better, but still struggles. Yet, as soon as Will promises him that he is loved for who he is and that he is special and gives him strength in that way, we see him smiling and able to connect with El on a level that isn’t false romance but friendship and love. El clearly prefers this Mike, as we see her smiling and laughing with him when they aren’t forcing themselves into a relationship neither of them are happy in. This is ripped away, however, when Will says, “You’re the heart!” because Mike had truly thought those were Will’s words in the van. He knows El would never say those things, so is heart is crushed with the realization that Will had lied to him: he’s not special, he’s not really the heart, he’s not anything Will described. Mike reverts back to his sense of duty immediately and the pain for both him and El is clear.
Basically, it’s a matter of his inability to prioritize himself and his happiness over his dedication, how he views El as someone he owes and how he views Will as a piece of his happiest and most genuine self, and the fact that he feels as though he must hide his truest self in favor of being the person he thinks El wants, which leads to him pushing Will away and fighting with him despite his desperate want to be himself. He flips around so much because of this push and pull in his head and El and Will not really expressing to him what the want from him. El doesn’t really want a relationship with him, she just thought it would make her normal. Will wants Mike so badly but he can’t tell him that, so he fights for what he thinks Mike’s happiness is. Mike doesn’t communicate what he wants to either of them. All three of them are hot messes.
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aru-noel · 5 months ago
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Me n who pls
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eeriesilkworm · 24 days ago
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Season 2 Mike definitely saw Max as a love rival for Will
Another Byler from Mike Wheeler's POV analysis—(Unrequited love trope edition).
Walk with me.
Sometimes I think about how when the party went trick-or-treating Mike specifically told Will that he, "should have checked with him" first before letting Max join them.
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It's just a very peculiar moment. Why Will?
Even Will was confused by this, lol.
We know that Mike doesn't like Max in season 2 (for reasons we'll look into more), but why did he make this Will's problem/ responsibility? Especially after only knowing of her existence for 2 days at this point.
He wasn't angry at Lucas or Dustin—or at least, he didn't expect them to come to him for permission—otherwise he would have said something to them, too.
It was Will who he felt betrayed by and upset with.
Heck, go ahead and take a second look at the first screenshot provided above.
Does Mike look angry to you?
No—he looks forlorn.
Let me break it down for you:
I'll start by saying when the party learned of MADMAX the screename, they were all equally interested in knowing who it was.
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But when Max is introduced to us as a character (and revealed to be a girl), we get markedly different reactions between the boys.
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In the first frame, they have no idea who she is or what her name is. All they see is a new girl. (Played by Sadie Sink mind you, who is very pretty).
Look at Mike's face: he already looks sulky.
The second frame is after they learn her name is Max. Once again, all four boys show some level of interest, but Mike remains sulky.
Then we have the recess scene in which the boys are watching Max, which is very interesting.
Consider the blocking and body language in this frame:
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Look at Will here: he's just as interested in Max as Lucas and Dustin are (even if his interest is not based on attraction). In fact, he's the main focus of this frame for some reason.
Mike is the only one who hangs back, and his body language is completely different from the other three (hands in pockets, meaning he is distanced). He has no interest whatsoever and his facial expression appears agitated.
Mike feels like the odd one out here.
Will fits in.
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When they "lose the target" Will is the one who spots her and reinitiates the "watching." Once again, Will is the main focus of this shot and even seems to be showing the most interest; his expression is bright and engaged.
He runs with Lucas and Dustin to the wastebin while Mike trails behind begrudgingly, not wanting to be left behind.
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It begs the question: why is Will the focal point among the four boys in a scene about looking at a girl, if he was never intended to be a love interest?
I argue it's because we're seeing this interaction from a very specific perspective—the perspective of Mike Wheeler, who is standing back and observing.
It's also worth noting that Will's change in demeanor and energy here is extremely apparent.
He is noticeably withdrawn and low in spirits this season due to his PTSD (both literal and metaphorical if you count the MF as a metaphor for trauma).
And Mike notices. He’s the one who points out that Will had been "quiet today"—a detail the others miss because they don’t watch Will the way he does.
Notice that Will is disengaged during the science lesson (before Max arrives), while the other three are nerding out. Will previously participated in the science fair—it typically interests him—but his mood is very low.
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Then compare that with his immediate engagement when Max walks into the classroom, and the level of interest he showed during recess. Mike would certainly observe this shift, paying as much attention to Will as he does.
In fact, once the distraction of Max has passed and the principal comes to collect him, Will's body language retreats again; shoulders hunched, eyes downcast.
What conclusion do you think Mike would come to based off these few short interactions?
(And these are the only interactions Mike sees between Will and Max before trick-or-treating together the next day. Mike hasn't even spoken to her yet).
From Will's perspective, this girl is just a novelty: a light-hearted distraction from everything else going on, offering a spot of normalcy.
But from Mike's perspective, this is a pretty new girl showing up out of nowhere and immediately raising Will's spirits: something he felt like he failed to do.
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And so it brings us to the trick-or-treating scene, in which Will (apparently) joins Dustin and Lucas in their enthusiasm for Max joining the party, while Mike hangs back and then begrudgingly follows, not wanting to be left behind.
Are we noticing the pattern?
Then we have Mike's confrontation with Will (this happens after Will is seen filming Max, btw). He tells Will he should have checked with him about Max joining them and that Max is, "ruining the best night of the year."
Uh... what? What did she do?
He then storms off: inentionally leaving Will behind this time.
(He wants him to know how that feels).
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Following this interaction, Will has a big scare with the MF—and of course, it’s Mike who finds him first. Despite his mood, Mike is still attentive and protective.
Mike behaves possessively when he finds Will, not wanting the others to get involved. He takes Will “home” (his home) so they can be alone.
What follows is a scene that, put simply, is about reciprocation.
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Interestingly, Mike’s attitude toward Max shifts after this scene with Will—he doesn’t have anything to say about Max joining the party in the AV room to look at Dustin’s pollywog.
This is the girl who apparently ruined Halloween.
You’d think he’d still be unhappy to see her.
But after that conversation with Will in his basement, Mike feels more secure and reassured about the state of their relationship.
He's no longer jealous.
So now, it's apparently fine for Max to be in the party.
Well, that changes again.
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The next notable interaction is after Mike realises the pollywog is from the UD. Mike immediately goes into protective mode. It’s not Will who storms into the classroom to grab the trap—it’s Mike.
It’s also (presumably) Mike who locks Max outside of the AV room when they discuss this, yelling at her that she can’t come inside.
When she opens the door anyway, the pollywog escapes—and (of course) Mike blames her. No one else points fingers.
Now, the boys were hesitant to reveal any information about the UD for obvious reasons, but here we see the recurring theme in the Mike/Will/Max triangle: Mike’s protectiveness (and slight possessiveness) of Will.
So, a recap of Mike’s perspective so far:
First gripe: You’re hogging Will’s attention (possessive) Second gripe: You’ve compromised Will’s safety (protective)
Then we finally have the confrontation between Mike and Max:
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It literally starts with Mike telling Max to leave because she's in the boys' room. (Similar to his "boys only" comment in season 3).
Let's not get it twisted: When Max finally asks Mike why he's been treating her the way he has been, he deflects.
Mike, who always has a ready opinion and is not afraid of confrontation, is not comfortable sharing the real reason why.
It’s commonly believed that Mike simply didn’t like Max because her presence reminded him of El’s absence—and I see it—but after a closer look, I no longer agree.
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Firstly, I don’t think it’s fair to assume that Max would remind Mike of El (or rub salt in the wound of her absence) just because they’re both girls. Max and El couldn’t be more different—physically or otherwise—and that distinction feels intentional.
Mike would never compare Max to El, because to him, El is incomparable—a superhero who saved his (and Will’s) life.
Also, in Mike’s mind, El is still in the party—he lists her name off with the other members.
Max wouldn’t be a replacement.
He literally just stated that she would be an addition.
Secondly, Mike never actually makes this connection himself. He simply offhandedly mentions El when he’s trying to convince Max she’s not needed.
So why does he want her to stay away?
And when El is finally introduced (both through conversation and literally) to this dynamic, what happens?
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Mike and Max begin to get along.
They share a smile.
If Mike’s issue with Max had anything to do with El, the scene wouldn’t have played out this way.
It’s classic misdirection.
The misdirection is so obvious they lean into it—even having El herself misinterpret Mike and Max’s relationship, becoming jealous.
She mistakenly assumes Mike is interested in Max, just like Mike mistakenly assumed Will was interested in her, too.
They’re giving the audience a warped perspective, urging us to look behind the curtain.
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Mike’s behaviour towards Max fits perfectly into Byler’s shared arc in Season 2: Mike is attentive, protective, and possessive over Will, while Will—consumed by the MF—can’t fully reciprocate that attention.
The “crazy together” scene is the only time Mike receives the same energy back from Will the entire season.
I feel like people forget that when they talk about how cute Season 2 was for Byler. Cute from Will’s perspective, maybe (supernatural plot aside)—but for Mike?
We get multiple shots of Mike staring at Will or noticing his absence (Mike staring at Will’s empty desk being the most obvious example).
That’s called pining.
Will does not invite Mike to his house or show up uninvited—Mike does that. Will does not hold Mike’s hand—Mike does that. Will does not watch Mike closely or check in on him constantly—Mike does that. Will does not become possessive of Mike’s attention—Mike does that.
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In fact, they play into this unreciprocated affection trope pretty blatantly—when Mike bares his heart to Will, tearfully recounting their first meeting, Will quite literally cannot respond because he’s possessed—even if he wants to.
Not to mention—Mike’s recount of their first meeting is also (thematically) about reciprocation:
“I asked if you wanted to be my friend. And you said yes. You said yes.”
Mike puts emphasis on the fact that Will said yes: the fact that Will reciprocated his feelings.
That is what he wants.
He wants validation that Will feels the same.
That Will won't leave him behind.
And what happens at the end of Season 2?
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From a Byler perspective, this season is about Mike’s (seemingly) unrequited love for Will—and it directly influences Mike’s (very different) behaviour in Season 3.
So yeah.
Mike didn’t like Max because he was jealous, and coping with feelings for Will he feared were one-sided—and in his mind that was confirmed as true.
Why wouldn’t he be relieved to see El at the snowball dance?
Why wouldn’t he kiss her?
Why wouldn’t he immediately start dating her and pushing Will away?
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butter-bubbles · 6 months ago
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The thing that absolutely gets to me in this scene is how Will doesn't even look upset when he sees El and Mike (totally platonically) reuniting.
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The GA always argues that Will's included during their “romantic moment” to convey his sadness/unrequitedness/queer alienation, but like he's just happy to have his sister back in this moment. There’s not even a hint of sadness on his face. It's Mike who's acting strange here.
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Bro looks like someone just electrocuted his cat, like who is this loser boykisser? Cringefail Mike Wheeler, never change.
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love-byers · 7 months ago
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reminder that will byers said the equivalent of "yes i did truly think we were never going to date girls and spend the rest of our lives together doing what we love and i thought that's what you wanted too but clearly i was wrong"
and mike reacted like this:
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this his not just sad regret this is YEARNING. the realization that will actually DOES want that has made him not want to let go.
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gayofthefae · 2 years ago
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This is hilarious
Also just remember its literal perfect alignment with “I like presents” from the season 3 finale that I had forgotten about so thank you for this reminder.
quick side note acknowledgment though for the moments I get to see wholesome milkvan fandom moments bc this was very cute and respectful, albeit oblivious.
Here’s to supporting El getting Mike a present platonically in season 5 <3
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Yeah, imagine…
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nayalovesbyler2 · 23 days ago
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people may dislike this will byers outfit but mike wheeler certainly didn’t
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