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Shinobu Time - An Analysis
This arc is difficult to talk about because itâs hard to extricate it from the context of Second Season more broadly and Mayoi Jiangshi more specifically - so much so that itâs really more focused on Mayoi than the titular Shinobu. But I donât think this works unless we take them both, together, as telling the story of these two girls (and maybe some other characters as well).
In Mayoi Jiangshi, Koyomi and Shinobu are catapulted to 10 years in the past. Itâs a result of his desire to save Mayoi, but being a considerate person, he thinks about what he can do for his other friends. Can he rescue Hitagiâs family from a cult? Can he give Tsubasa more stable living conditions? No, he canât. These issues are too big, too complex, for him to solve as just a random high-schooler, regardless of how early he gets in on it. Much the same for Suruga, Nadeko, and anyone else he knows. Except for one Hachikuji Mayoi, whose single unlucky accident seems eminently correctable.Â
It makes me think. What exactly is the difference between Mayoi and these other characters? I suppose it comes back to Memeâs old phrase - oddities arise for a reason. The circumstances that the other characters grew up in resulted in a condition where they almost had no choice but to call on oddities to help with their problems.Â
You could say that Mayoiâs parents divorce is the reason for what happened to her, but thereâs no particular reason why she had to be hit by a car, why she had to be unable to see her mother on Motherâs Day. After all, that wasnât the effect of an oddity. It was the origin story of one.Â
In a way, Mayoiâs situation feels fundamentally unfair. A character like Tsubasa, Nadeko, even Numachi Rouka - they become oddities because on some level, they want to be. Thatâs how they see themselves. Itâs not good for them, but it does something, you can see why it happens. Hachikuji, though, isnât a person that turned into an oddity. For all intents and purposes, sheâs a supernatural entity from the start. Even as it causes her to suffer as a person does.Â

The difference between Mayoi and other characters - this is also the topic of a discussion between Koyomi and Ononoki Yotsugi. Koyomi has continued to live, even after being made undead, while Ononoki was reborn, becoming a new person out of the corpse of the old. Mayoi does neither, simply remaining in place. The point of such continued existence is what Ononoki wants to know. She questions the meaning of her own life. Surely life arises because of a strong desire. Surely, these undead oddities persist for a reason.Â
We might say that the reason for Ononoki is the desire of the people who raised her from the dead. We might say that for Koyomi, itâs his relationship with Shinobu. But thinking of it from this perspective, Hachikuji Mayoiâs reason for existing must be by far the simplest to answer.
After all, itâs a standard element for ghosts that they persist because of an unfulfilled regret.Â
Of course Mayoi didnât want to become an oddity, didnât want to become the Lost Cow, but she did want to meet her mother again. She did want to persist after death. In this sense, her fate is really quite excessively merciful. Fair to the point of indulgence. Thereâs no reason for her being hit by a truck, but thereâs a reason for her becoming an oddity. And there really is a good chance that fate could be averted by simply bringing her to her motherâs house on a day 10 years ago.Â
The real question here is why she chooses to persist after sheâs no longer lost. Ononoki wants to know if sheâs happy with the current state of affairs. Thatâs something that Koyomi wants to know too, if thereâs anything he can do for her, but he never asks. Itâs the unspoken part of their relationship.Â
I want to say that Mayoi Jiangshi, as a whole, is about speaking aloud these unspoken truths, but it applies much more heavily to Shinobu than it does to Mayoi.Â
Shinobu would have destroyed the world had Koyomi not found her in Tsubasa Cat. This is left unspoken. Koyomi didnât want to insensitively interrogate her motives during her silent period, knowing that heâd already imposed on her enough for a lifetime. Shinobu didnât want to share, didnât want to be seen as more petty and selfish than she already is.Â
The destroyed world is a shock to both of them, but nothing more than that. Itâs not a challenge, or a mystery to solve. The problem, and its solution, are both inevitable consequences of the kind of person that Shinobu is. She confronts herself, and in doing so, much that she would leave unspoken is said aloud. That she only needed to open her heart to Koyomi a little more. That she doesnât know how she could have. Itâs needless to say, it goes without saying, it was left unspoken until now, but a Shinobu who couldnât connect with Koyomi - might as well be dead.Â

The jiangshi, a form of zombie with a more solid feeling to them that calls to mind the concept of rigor mortis: being set in oneâs state at the moment of death. The Shinobu of this world was dead for months, and yet unable to die. But Hachikuji Mayoi herself - not continuing to live, not being reborn, is she not a kind of jiangshi herself, persisting outside of her allotted time without any meaning or purpose?
This is a question Koyomi couldnât bring himself to ask her, but he gets an answer by the end of the arc. He sees how much the Mayoi of the other timeline was changed thanks to his influence, and, returning to his own, he sees how his influence has also affected this Mayoi. How, because of him, sheâs started enjoying being a ghost. Because of him, she wanted to stick around even after fulfilling her original goal.

A real apocalypse to Koyomi is the absence of other people, and that too is the true death of these undead oddities. Neither Mayoi nor Shinobu can live a worthwhile life, where theyâre capable of changing and changing others in turn, without making a friend first.
However, in the pursuit of this goal, the two of them still have things left unaddressed - for Shinobu, in the past, and for Mayoi, in the future. Thus we move on to Shinobu Time.Â
The âtimeâ in the title is oddly reminiscent of the time travel plot Shinobu just got involved in, and the similarities donât stop there. In both, her carelessness leads to widespread loss of life, the loss of her human connections. In both, she has to leap far into the air to avoid the consequences of her actions. Time is the thing Shinobu possesses most abundantly, stretching her life both far backwards and infinitely forwards, and the more we learn about her the more we learn this is not a boon at all.Â
Weâre told that after enough time in one place, her nature as a vampire will draw negative energy to an area and cause masses of oddities to arrive, spelling destruction for the residents. I like to think of this as a smaller-scale reminder of the nature of vampirism - you cannot have mortal friends, they will inevitably perish with the passing of time. You, yourself have more time than you know what to do with, but itâs not a kind of time that can be shared. It canât be used to build anything.Â
Which is why the incident where she was worshiped as a god is so tragic. Why did she continue giving the people of the area rain even after the first accidental miracle? Why did she do nothing to dispel their impression of her as a divine being, even by accident? Why didnât she leave as soon as she realized they had no legends of vampirism, as she muses later? I mean, she tries to play it off as being careless, arrogant, indifferent, but there are enough hints that weâre not seeing everything here. If anything, the question is why she wouldnât want to stay in a place where people like her, and she can help them instead of hurting?
Time is the curse of vampires, and the darkness slips naturally into that role when it demands an actor. After enough time, enough indifference, people start disappearing. Because thereâs no way a vampire can get away with having a positive relationship with humanity.Â
Itâs simply impossible. Shinobu was doomed from the start. Is what I want to say, because I like the tragedy of it, but in reality there is a very simple way out. Just become a god for real. Donât tell me itâs impossible, this is Kiss-Shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade in her prime, it would have been as simple as willing it. As wanting it. As admitting it to herself.Â
But she doesnât, because the all-mighty vampire isnât willing to admit that she needs something from other people that canât be taken by force. She wants only that which can be given without her asking, and what isnât given she watches go up in flames just out of her reach, not moving a finger. Is that not what caused the whole mess in Mayoi Jiangshi? It really puts into context, then, the opening scene of the Kizumonogatari movies, where she moves to drag Koyomi out of the sun. The desperation she must have felt, begging for help when she first meets him on the side of the road.Â
Time is the curse of vampires, because it at once broadens your perspective and narrows it. We donât hear this story before this arc, Shinobu feels no need to tell it, because she forgot. The whole incident made her feel bad, so she shoved it to the back of her mind, let the endless waves of time wash over it until it was gone, and carried on as she had been. Or so she claims, anyway. I think the way she treats Koyomi after the fate of her first kin tells a different story.Â
Back to Mayoi, though. The tale told by Shinobu isnât the only âtimeâ in this story, and the darkness slots neatly into the present day as well. Mayoi, also, is cursed by time. Eleven years of being lost and getting others lost is not time well spent. For Mayoi, too, as soon as her natural curse is dissipated, the darkness arrives to plug the gap. For Mayoi, too, there is a limit, an allotted amount of time that she can spend in the company of others.Â
As Izuko puts it, theyâre both liars. Shinobu lied by omission, failing to inform the villagers of her vampiric nature, posing as a god without genuinely fulfilling the role of one. Her crime was indifference, or a deliberate facade of such. She made no attempt to communicate with others, and as a result they never got to know her. Unspoken truths, left on the table forever.Â
Mayoi, though - Koyomi denies quite flatly that she ever lied to him. He knows she doesnât want to be a liar, doesnât want to act rude to passers-by in order to put them off. So Izuko makes the accusation lying to herself. Making Mayoi herself the victim of the crime, because in doing her best to avoid causing trouble for others, she let herself suffer silently. She, too, has left truths unspoken, never clarifies the nature of her relationship with Koyomi, the nature of the gag routines they always do, the nature of her existence, what she really wants.Â
Time can solve the vast majority of peopleâs problems, Numachi Rouka says in Hanamonogatari, and throughout Second Season we see characters put this advice into action by running away. Kanbaruâs aimless sprinting, Shinobuâs mighty vertical leaps, Nadekoâs deflection and looking aside - theyâre all examples of people trying to avoid confronting their troubles. Trying to get lost. Iâll get lost with you forever, Koyomi says to Mayoi, and heâs not just talking about an unspecified location. Heâs talking about losing his entire life, failing to confront the things & people he really ought to.Â

Mayoi, on the contrary, doesnât try to run away in the slightest. She doesnât wait for the darkness to catch her, she goes out on her own terms and in her own time. In doing so she drops the shield of banter and irony she and Koyomi have used to make their relationship and feelings for each other ambiguous this whole time. He knows sheâs been biting her tongue on purpose, but before now that was left as an unspoken truth. In a similar way, even Koyomiâs aggressive lecherousness towards her tells you something about their relationship. He does, in reality, experience desire for her, but exaggerates so much in the expression of it that it comes off as more of a gag than anything, which perversely becomes more comfortable for Mayoi. She can simply brush it off as a regular routine while continuing to scorn him as a lolicon.
An actual, genuine kiss is the exact opposite of his indiscriminate licking, and it comes along with an actual, genuine confession, albeit delivered in the past tense. Perhaps the only situation where she could have brought herself to say it.Â

After all, unlike Shinobu, thereâs no way out. Mayoi is doomed from the start, by nature of being already dead. Unlike a vampire, ghosts donât truly continue living after death, canât actually change, especially not into a god of all things, that would be ridiculous-
Dear reader, I have watched this series before. As much as itâs in my nature to over-dramatize the tragedy of this arc, it seems more fitting to leave it on a hopeful note. Because Hachikuji Mayoi, in her final moments, did stop lying to herself. She stopped trying so hard to remain a ghost, a being that canât change, and instead reached for something new - an unfulfilled regret different from the one that originally extended her existence.Â
I think in a fundamentally fair world it makes sense that would leave room for her to be saved.Â
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and that someone's name is Nisioisin
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Do You Know This Anime?

#monogatari series#nekomonogatari shiro#onimonogatari#hanamonogatari#kabukimonogatari#otorimonogatari#koimonogatari#anime#polls
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I have pretty fuzzy memories of the events in the previous Monogatari books, but I vaguely recalled liking Shinobu the most. So I was sorta looking forward to this? Especially after the Nadeko book. It ended up being more about Mayoi though.
The pacing of this book was pretty bad. Shinobu is a terrible narrator. The fourth wall breaking also got pretty stale, it wasn't even really that funny the first time. Overall it wasn't a very good story...but the character interactions kinda made up for it. And the Darkness phenomenon was interesting and made sense in that world. I should feel sadder Mayoi is gone but I feel like it might be temporary? I feel like it was hinting that Araragi could have done something if he had more knowledge. More time-travel shenanigans incoming? đ
I'm also cutting the book some slack cos it feels like a set-up book. Set-up for Kanbaru and her aunt story and set-up for Ougi.
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the art in this episode is utterly stunning
Shinobu Time Two Review:
Yay! That was pretty fun. Great character stuff for Shinobu once again, and setting up a second half of an arc that I assume'll have more Mayoi, as an exchange for Kabukimonogatari.
But damn they weren't kidding, this sure starts as Shinobu Time.
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on ougi tease flirts (araragi edition)



(also interjecting here this bit is a lot funnier in japanese. ougi is like "you're gonna be fallen in love with by me you know!" "uh" "it's gonna suck for you if i fall in love with you you know!"
like she's warning him. it's very funny to me
this from the onimonogatari commentary track is also significant:
now. nadeko says "too" (ă) but when ougi replies she doesn't use that particle, instead saying ç§ăŻ. 㯠is the topic marker, so what ougi is saying is kind of like "well, as for me, i like araragi senpai." it's a subtle distinction ougi's making from her and nadeko here.
also, the translation for the next part is actually wrong here!
if you listen closely, ougi says GAKE, not KAGE. ougi does not say "i adore him from his shadow to his back," ougi says: ăć
ăçłăä¸ăăŚăăăĺ´ăăčä¸ăćźăăăăăă
which literally translates to "I adore him to the point I want to push his back off a cliff."
which sounds very scary and deranged.
and is. ougi wants to push araragi off a cliff. this is literally what she is saying. nadeko's "adore?" ("ăăăăăŁăŚăăă") should probably actually translate to "you want to push him...?" (they're homonyms) because ougi is being deranged and insane. she's so real tbh she only gets realer
but the idea of čä¸ăćźă (to push one's back) in this case is also like, pushing someone forward, cheering them on. giving them the push they need to succeed. so, ougi wants to push araragi to where he needs to go, while also severely hurting him in the process. classic jeerleader ougi move
adore "ć
ă" is like... love dearly, adore, but can also be kind of like worship, honor, revere, idolize-- fitting because ougi is a big fan. she also says it very politely, because of course she is nothing but a polite and respectful kouhai. :)
but to me all this indicates ougi's feelings are something more platonic than romantic-- or maybe it's more like queerplatonic. ougi flirts teasingly but its not really meant to be taken as anything more than just that, a joke, hence ougi's strange almost non-sequitur response to nadeko's reaction. in other words, i think araragi is probably right on the mark when he says ougi is just teasing (or being malicious. never forget that a lot of (maybe even most of) what ougi does and says is criticism. it's entirely possible she's mocking him). though whether ougi would truly mind kissing araragi or not is left a mystery... what can be said for sure, though, is that she loves him very much.
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Onimonogatari - VOFAN
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Hey, how's your weekend been?
I was going to wait until Sunday evening to answer this and then i forgot and now it's monday arvo.
It was alright thanks, been playing Rain Code whilst I wait for new review codes to pop in.
Still thinking about Amarantus. What a VN.
Hopefully I'm relaxed enough to trying digging back into Onimonogatari von novel.
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Top 5 vampire anime/manga?
Kizumonogatari
Owarimonogatari
Wazamonogatari
Onimonogatari
Tsukihime (anime)
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its so funny reading neko white where its like dont worry all the stuff koyomi's getting up to during this time will be explained in the next book! and then you read the next book and its like well the day BEFORE this koyomi did a bunch of time travel adventures that accomplished nothing but ill explain it in the next book i promise! and then the next two books are well ahead in the continuity and koyomi isn't the narrator
so you're reading onimonogatari like okay finally the mystery will be revealed and then half of it is shinobu telling a really long story and in the other half gaen finally makes koyomi promise to do a thing that, you understand, result in the events going on during neko white
which are not adapted until next season sorry
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#monogatari#monogatari series#nisio isin#nisioisin#bakemonogatari#nekomonogatari#nekomonogatari white#kabukimonogatari#hanamonogatari#otorimonogatari#onimonogatari#koimonogatari#anime poll#literature poll#animeomelette poll
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Kiss-shot Acerola-Orion Heart-Under-Blade in a style inspired by Onimonogatari
#kiss shot#kiss shot acerola orion heart under blade#shinobu oshino#oshino shinobu#monogatari series#onimonogatari#kizumonogatari#monogatari#nisio isin
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Kisshot has been in my sss waifu tier list for so long now. Just love her from her designs,to her personality, to her relationship with araragi. đđ
#anime#drama#animation#fantasy#action#shounen#adventure#Monogatari#bakemonogatari#kizumonogatari#nisemonogatari#hanamonogatari#kabukimonogatari#otorimonogatari#onimonogatari#koimonogatari#tsukimonogatari#nekomonogatari#koyomonogatari#owarimonogatari#kisshot#shinobu#koyomi araragi#waifuskawaii#waifu tier list
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