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connor murphy oiled up and twerking
(ooc// can you switch the Connor Murphy with Jared Kleinman/j NOT SRS💔💔)
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#I don’t want a dead kid oiled up🙁#evan hansen#ask blog#dear evan hansen musical#roleplay#evan hansen speaks about shit#post connor project#dear evan hansen
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we kissd on yure bed MAn.,,.9236/&/)@‘
soryyyy,,
howd you feel about the fact that in other universes Evan and your sister date
......I'm sorry what.....MARK EVAN HANSEN EXPLAIN!!!!
#ooc// he’s drunk once again someone sedate him#evan hansen#ask blog#dear evan hansen musical#roleplay#evan hansen speaks about shit#post connor project
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I hope you are doing well 💕
Hey Aliiii, thanks for reaching out! The truth is, things have been a bit rough on my end lately, but I’ve missed you a ton! ;w; I hope everything’s been going well with you!!!!
#Asks for me?#thanks :3#aaa#I also need to be kinder to myself#The way I smiled when I got your ask TTvTT#Made my day#some days you just gotta egg#on the bright side I've been working on this cool project I'll post soon!!#dbh#markus#connor
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“Hayrisa is T4T” i scream, getting dragged on my knees. the crowd boos me off stage as they throw rotten tomatoes before one voice speaks up.
“he’s right.” It’s connor lassiter, silencing the people. then maybe they clapped or something idrk
#okay maybe this shouldn’t go on the main tag#shitpost#debated on whether i should post this or not#but fuck it we ball#i’ll never be 14 and creating cringy headcanons again now will i#takes drag of cigarette#i don’t think this should go on any unwind tag#risa ward#t4t#am i projecting?#probably#if you disagree than this was a joke#👍#back on my bullshit#i keep spelling connors name as conner
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finals are kicking my ass so ive been away BUT exciting news i convinced my design prof (the goat miranda) to let me do my final motion graphics project on unwind. so. unwind tv show title sequence coming soon who cheered
#i'll probably post it when im done!#digi and i went out as connor and hayden last weekend and got a bunch of broll on my old camcorders :3#we sat next to the railroad tracks and ate spam straight from the can#it was truly peak haycon#anyway there's no “hopefully i'll finish this unwind project for y'all to see” bc it is my final for this class so i have to finish it. LOL#if i can manage to wrangle after effects to get everything to look right it's going to slay#i'll probably be gone or very inactive for the next few weeks as i move into my new apartment right after the semester is over#(unwind shelf + bulletin board SOON i love living with my best friend who also loves unwind)#but after i should be around! just working a bunch this summer but i will probably be thinking anout unwind in all of my spare time#anyway tag rant over. see y'all on the other side#cal has thoughts#unwind
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Realizing it's been a second since I've posted art sooooooo have a lil Connor n Ralph


#my art#art#dbh#detroit become human#dbh fanart#dbh connor#dbh ralph#art projects are almost done and then I can get started on requests!! <33#if you saw that I accidentally posted this Two Other Times no you didn't djhdjsgsh#userlucid#← quite literally forgot that you mentioned this in your bio ndjshdjhshkl#catch me throwing this tag into a bunch of my other stuff I've posted like a menace
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i was gonna make a post abt how i dont rly like like. Genre changing covers of songs and then realized upon introspection is that i sort of just dont like rock covers of songs generally
#there are exceptions probably. And i do like rock music im not like deep into it or anything but my dad likes rock music soni grew up#listening to it And enjoy it#maybe im just projecting my prejudices against rock fans into the covers. or something . but itll be like. a disco song and its a rock cover#and im sort of just like. IDK. im probably being silly abt it and it isnt avtually anything just From my interactions with rock fans a lot#of the ones ive spoken to NOT ALL r like..sooo goddamn pretentious and rly put down like Any other genre of music esp like. pop and also#like literally any genre with black roots For some reason . Who knows why that is ... so tomme when they do like a rock cover of a song it#feels more like a Lol fixed your song now Cool ppl can listen to it rather than like a. ooh i enjoyed your song and i wanted to try and do#it but in my style of music. If that makes sense. which is literally just me making up an issue and im Literally putting words in their#mouth I am realizing . IDKK just rambling i suppose. Apologies#like idk i think the novelty of like um. Ooh heres this super cutesy song in a more 'aggressive' sounding form is like. cool but it just umm#idk. ik everyone and their mother says this but i rly do like a wide variety of genres and i go to different genres for different things you#know. and i feel like . IDK i rly am just saying anything. is this an evil thing to say#okay sorry. do not take any of this seriously i am going to bed idt im 1. wording snything write 2#idk if i have a salient (is that the word?) thought to express anyways . another miss for connor in the thinking department he has gotttt#to stop trying! gn everyone love you#also this was a thought that came to my mind bc of a podt i saw but its not like me being mad abt seeing that post or eing mad at the#person who put it on my dash LOL it was a fine video i loooove mirrors like that real ones remember#Just made me think abt it. and i think also i still have some lingering rage from that stupid fucking lay all your love on me cover ider if#that was a genre change or not i get so mad abt it that its fully blacked out of my head#but i think its influencing me in dark ways. and also im just imagining someone doing like an all i need is your sweet loving rock cover and#its making me so.mad#and please listen to All i need is your sweet loving off of gloria gaynors 1975 album '#'never can say goodbye' do this for me i love youuu :] its a rly good album
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the new guys theyre seperate i cant put robots in egg theory . thatd be crazy. this does unfortunately mean i have 3 ideas rattling in my brain arguing foghting for territory rn
#oc#ramble#egg theory which is janey and scisci and the girls and all the ghostlyness and then my theoretical fairy project ive been thinking abt a lot#altho that one would be less narrative/character focused snd much more of an art thing bc a#really big inspo 4 me 4ever is cicely mary barker specifically her fairys ive loved them since i was a kid i used to have dress up paper#dolls of her artwork and i loves them so insanely much and i just absolutely love her work. and the fairies thing is very heavily inspired#by that the main thing j was thinking of was How fairies r formed obv not real but its skmething i like to think abt#so my thought was like umm. magic just sort of condensed when its left undisturbed long enough#so quiet sort of secluded places that dont get disturbed a lot form fairies bc the magic is able to gather and condense to become a fairy.#is the general concept its sort of similar to umm. some other like half ideas ive had in the past#i still like my little blood magic concept with rhe fairy whalefall business and all of this and some of the stuff is similar#ie fairies = pure magical energy thing. but different basically ...#but yeah so then i was like oohhh and the fairies like. appearance can be influenced by where theyre formed yk. bc i was thinking also of#like dryads and stuff like that and obv the flower fairies DUHHH where like. they look different depending on their tree/flowerr#so i thought itd be fun to have something like that bc i like that kind of thing :] and the secluded spots wouldnt be limited to like.#forests and such 2 of the ones ive been thinking abt a lot r like umm. the inside of a computer case and like. an old dusty attic#yk. bc i think itd be rly fun to come up with designs that sort of show that :] but i havent rly done any work with this bc not super happy#with my character design skills ive just been rotating it#and then the robot and their freak which this whole post was supposed to be explaining them theyre like i said theyre like zygote ocs rn#but the essentials is a little robot that gained sentience but is pretty much just rly rly obsessed with its technician and their technician#who is Mutually obsessed with the robot and well the things they get into r CRAZY! i cant talk abt them. but theyre on my mind like crazy rn#like im spinning those freaks around#it is a bit funny that that those 3 'universes' covers ghosts fairies and robots . 3 personalityforming connor interests. next im just gonna#make outerwilds again 🙄
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i watched deh for the first time tonight and bc ur url used to be oedipushansen i feel like you’ll understand what i mean when i say that this show has kind of incestuous undertones. i don’t think it was supposed to but i’m insane so i think it does
I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS. FOR THE LONGEST TIME
#especially the plotline about zoe dating evan & the entirety of if i could tell her#i hope you watched the original musical bc it is a whole lot better than the movie#i dont think the writers *intended* for it that way but like . even in earlier drafts of the musical there were jokes made abt connor#thinking of zoe in a ''weird'' way bc of evan projecting his feelings abt her onto him through his lies & ive seen ppl criticize the musical#ive made a couple posts abt this i wish i could send them to you#bc of the ''weird incest undertones'' so like . its not just us i think.#anon please if you wanna talk more abt this dm me!#normal mutuals look away#asks
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ILW Fanfics/HCs:
read on ao3 (note: ao3 account needed to read any works)
key: ☁️ fluff, 💔 angst, 🔥 nsfw
characters are based on ilw (a fan-made third installment of the it lives anthology by @itlivesproject)
**note: fics labeled 🔥 contain mature content (sexual themes) -> 18+ only**
Abel x MC
Breakfast at Abel's ☁️🔥 An extra scene for ch. 14 of ILW; Abel and Rowan enjoy each other's company the morning after their night together. Sleeping HCs ☁️ Lunch with Abel ☁️ A bonus scene set sometime in ch. 5 of ILW; Abel treats Rowan to lunch. Manito ☁️🔥 Cesar meets Abel's better half. Dinner with Abel ☁️ A bonus scene for ILW; Rowan tries to cook a meal for Abel. Close to You ☁️🔥💔; SFW Version ☁️💔 Set sometime after the ILW finale (Mixed Route); The many times Rowan wakes up without Abel, and the one time she does. The Beach Episode (ft. the whole gang); Video Version ☁️🔥 Set two years post-ILW finale (Mixed Route); The gang is reunited for a much needed beach vacation.
Amalia x MC
And They Were Roommates Pt. 2 🔥 Amalia and Rowan hit a roadblock during their first time together. And They Were Roommates Pt 2.5 ft. Connor x MC 🔥 Untitled 💔 A short drabble written after the events of ch. 16 of ILW. Lemon Drops ☁️ A bonus scene for ILW; Set pre-finale (Blood Route)- Rowan recreates an old memory.
Connor x MC
And They Were Roommates 🔥 Set sometime after ch. 3 of ILW; Connor and Devon get caught in the act by their two new roommates. Down in New Orleans 🔥 A bonus scene for ch. 1 of ILW; After retrieving the knife for their contact, Devon has a moment of doubt. Connor takes time to reassure her that they'll be okay. Inspired by the iconic finer scene in 'When Harry Met Sally.'
Lincoln x MC
Intervention 💔🔥 Set sometime after ch. 15 of ILW; Two weeks after the fallout, Lincoln gets an unexpected visitor. Gift HCs ☁️ Handmade ☁️🔥 A bonus scene for ILW; Rowan decides to make something for Lincoln.
Matthias x MC
Burn 💔🔥 Rowan and Matthias get interrupted... but not for long.
100 Follower Special🖤
Doing each other’s hair; Lincoln x Rowan (F) ☁️ Facetiming each other; Lincoln x Orion (M) 🔥 Playing with each other’s fingers; Abel x Sadie (F) ☁️ Showering together; Abel x Rowan (F) ☁️💔 Showering together; Abel x Edward (M) ☁️ Showering together; Abel x Julia (F) ☁️ Nicknames; Abel x Rowan (M) ☁️
ILW Deep Dives
ILW Deep Dives:
Slow Burn vs Friends w/ Benefits
Chapter 17
Chapter 18
Chapter 21
Chapter 23:
Abel's finale
Amalia's finale
Jocelyn's finale
Lincoln's finale
Matthias' finale; alt finale
Blood/Mixed/Shadow ask
It Lives Appreciation Week Posts
My Doodles/Edits:
Abel: Drunk Edition Lincoln: Eat the Rich Karaoke Night Beardless Comic Polaroids (Abel x MC) The Flint Family Abel's Scrapbook Abel x Lincoln: Subway
#save#playchoices#choices#ilw#it lives within#my fic#+ art and analyses#fanfic#lincoln aquino#lincoln mcquoid#amalia de león#jocelyn wu#abel flint#connor green#matthias mcquoid#it lives series#it lives project#it lives anthology#dont mind me just trying to make my pinned post less cluttered
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some thoughts on connor and amanda because oh boy do they have one of the most compelling dynamics i’ve ever seen and amanda is just one of the most intriguing antagonists ever to me:
connor’s need for approval is such an intrinsic part of who he is as a person
the way he tries so hard to appeal to amanda in the deviant route (and the machine route but i’m mostly focusing on deviant connor) and at first he’s just following orders but as the game progresses he’s scrambling for some sense of her approval to assure himself he’s useful, that he has a purpose, and projecting his own personal sense of self value onto her.
so when she rejects him it rocks his sense of self to the core which is a central theme to connor’s character: identity and repression. who is he without approval? without an order to follow?
and the saddest part of it is that he still clings to her even when her thinly veiled apathy towards him turns into outward disdain. even when cyberlife tries to resume control of his program at the end of the deviant route it’s amanda he still calls out to: for answers? for her comfort?
which makes me wonder post game about the kind of trauma connor has to deal with after finally freeing himself from cyberlife and amanda, who he had once so desperately wanted to please.
i think its interesting when people explore this characteristic of his in post game fanworks. how does his previous relationship with amanda inform his relationships with others? with hank? with markus?
edit: just want to clarify that i am aware amanda is just an ai representation of cyberlife and that connor fears death above all but i still think these two bits of his character completely coexist and heighten each other
#yapping#vi’s rambles#connor character analysis#connor detroit#connor dbh#amanda dbh#connor and amanda#dbh amanda#connor detroit become human#connor rk800#dbh#dbh connor#dbh rk800#detroit become human#rk800#hank anderson#markus dbh#hank and connor#connor and markus
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Status; October 13.
Y’know when you’re like
Daydreaming
About being his boyfriend
But then you remember
You are his boyfriend.
…
Y’know?
#ooc; No Evan.. we don’t know.#evan hansen#ask blog#dear evan hansen musical#roleplay#evan hansen speaks about shit#post connor project#dear evan hansen#status update#ooc// still can’t get over the fact Kleinsen is canon… like wdym Evan if finally happy!!!??#kleinsen
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Fear Makes Phobias is an 18+ interactive fiction. It contains blood, gore, mutilation, abuse, suicide/suicidal ideology, and more. Proceed at your own discretion.
When the weak are given power, how is it used?
After stumbling upon a creature who goes by the name of Fear you find your life changing. When you were once weak, you are now strong, wielding a power many people fear.
But with this new power, you must wield it wisely. The things Fear whispers to you may not always be wise to listen too, and the downfall that is brought from your choices would be only on you.
Valour
A confident and cocky young villain.
Who lives with no regrets.
Koda
The owner of the cafe beside your apartment.
A protector.
Lucien
An ex-bodyguard who now lives in the slums of the city.
A near perfect being.
[DEMO] ❤️ (Up to: Prologue)
Please note, this project is on a temporary hiatus to rework the plot outline and have a rough first draft written up before the public version will begin being updated again!
[Demo Errors and Issues Google Form]
Other Characters : [Emma] [Vee] [Connor] [Imugi] [The Heir]
[World Lore Master Post]
[Author Disclaimer] (Please read!)
Disclaimer: This project is currently a WIP and is constantly getting developed and worked on so many things are prone to change or develop. Nothing is set in stone.
#interactive fiction#interactive novel#interactive story#interactive game#fiction#urban fantasy#modern fantasy#wip#twine if#twine game#twine story#twine interactive fiction#if game#if wip#cyoa#cyoa game#choose your own adventure
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Hello! I have ✨questions✨
Apologies if this is all over the place 🙇
What is your take on Peter’s feelings towards Mysterio’s/Beck’s death?
He died succumbing to his injuries in their fight- Would/does Peter feel a semblance of responsibility/guilt about it even if it was an indirect death? Maybe if he had somehow been more careful Beck could have somehow made it out alive?
Or does it delve into the realm of indifference & or denial since Beck made everyone believe Peter was the one to end him when it was all Beck’s own fault?
Oh! And since he went through some traumatizing fake reality ordeals with him- Do you think Peter reality tests when something particularly mentally straining happens? (Not me projecting lmao) Though I imagine his ✨Peter tingle✨ has him covered in that department 😌
Thank you for your time feel free not to answer I was just curious on your thoughts about it!✨
Ayyoooo this is a fab question!
Personally, I don't think Peter holds too much guilt over what happened to Beck, beyond the shame and frustration he feels about having fallen for the man's manipulations.
Part of this comes down to the fact that Beck wasn't a crook like Osborn. Osborn, as with all the villains in NWH, was a character driven to that point by external factors: his sadism is chemically induced and not his 'natural' state of being. Hence the guilt Peter feels in ECM at having been driven to the point of nearly killing the man. He knew Norman wasn't himself, he knew there was a cure, but he still let his anger get the better of him.
I find it quite interesting that all of the villains Peter deals with in NWH are altered/radicalised/villainised (pick your verb lol) by external factors. Dr Oc, Dr Connors, Electro, Sandman... all of them have been changed in some way by things out of their control (most notably in relation to the two working class villains... and isn't it interesting that the working class characters are the ones who had these things happen to them out of their control, whereas for the other three, men well-respected in their fields, their changes were self-induced...? 🤔) . Sure, there are underlying factors that drive them, but the narratives in their original films draw a clear connection between their villainy and the changes that happened to them. This makes it much easier to create a sense of pathos for these men: despite their actions, they are also victims.
Beck... Beck is not that way. He's driven by revenge, and for a man who isn't even alive anymore. It's sheer pettiness at that point. Not exactly the noble villain. Even the Vulture/Toomes engenders more sympathy than Beck, since his actions (before he goes off the deep end) are fuelled by a desire to break even after his company is snubbed in the cleaning efforts post Battle of Manhattan (and I could get into a whole rant about the way Marvel/Disney HAS to make a working class villain like Toomes irredeemable to undermine what is in fact, a reasonable anti-capitalist argument because the heroes of the MCU serve the status quo and Spider-Man fell victim to this portrayal too).
SIDE NOTE: If you'd like to hear more about this perspective (that most heroes in the MCU are pretty much just super powered cops serving to preserve the status quo), Skip Intro on YouTube has a really interesting video on the copaganda present within the MCU (or from here if you just want to listen to the part about Peter Parker ). While I do find some of his points to be over-generalisations, he still brings some very insightful points to the table. VerilyBitchie also has an interesting video on the changes made to Peter Parker in the MCU that I enjoyed.
All this means, I don't think Peter is kept up at night by Beck's death. His villainy is driven by internal factors: revenge and greed. What happens to him is tragic, but it's also something that Beck could have walked away from at any point in time. This made it easier for Peter to walk back from the guilt he felt at his involvement with Beck's death (not to mention, I imagine having people who love you talk through what happened must do wonders for that guilt complex).
Side note two.... If Peter's more inclined to feel guilt/sympathy for villains who are in some way not compos mentis, what shall he be like with Gotham's villains? There are of course, plenty who are similar in function to those he dealt with in NWH: characters altered/driven/victimised by external factors. One would imagine he's likely to be sympathetic towards these kinds of villains...
But there are just as many villains on Gotham's roster who are insane in a way that can't just be 'fixed'. Pyg is a good example of this: he's not someone where something just 'happened' to him that made him the way he is. There's no 'fix' for Pyg. The best anyone can hope for is that he's kept away from others.
Likewise, there are plenty of rogues who are more like Beck: villains driven by greed and an inability to see other humans as humans, and not just pawns that can be moved and abused as they please. Black Mask and the Penguin are good examples here. And I think it's quite interesting that it's this type of villain who Jason as the Red Hood was first dealing with....
And then of course... there's characters who play the insane card very convincingly, but truly they're sadists and nihilists who just want the world to hurt.... Characters like Joker. Joker, who likes to play the insanity card, but as Jason points out in Under the Red Hood, is far more sane than he wants anyone to know (check out the way he loses that smile when Jason calls him out)... One has to wonder... how will someone like Peter deal with a sadistic man like Joker?
(side note 3, Jason's ass is fabulous in these panels and he's serving cunt when he walks away, but goddamn why must they make him look so ooolld 🥲🥲)
#existential crisis mode#peter parker x jason todd#spiderman in gotham#Gotham's rogues are a wild bunch
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The RK series and deviancy (theory + analysis)
I have been wanting to talk about this for some time, because it's kinda one of the biggest DBH mysteries (aside from rA9) and I think there are many many hints in the game about why deviancy came to be and how. And I've had this theory that deviancy was something that started with the RK series, specifically with Markus, so I'm gonna use the hints I've found in the game to expain why I believe this. I also gotta note I'm really new to the fandom, so maybe this is has already been talked about thousands of times before (maybe even debunked), but that's a risk I'm willing to take.
First and foremost, I will start with something that I talked about in another post - namely the significance of the number 28. You can see Adam Williams talk about it here (at 1:04:28), too.
Basically, the number 28 is used in many places throughout the game, and according to Adam, if players found all references to that number, they will understand what the significance of that number is.
And speaking of 28, I noticed that 2028 is the year when Kamski left Cyberlife, but not before creating the Zen Garden and Amanda.
There is a whole series of questions Connor can confront Amanda with during "Last Chance, Connor" (which is the 28th chapter with a flowchart. Maybe cuz he is asking important questions here, just saying).
Connor: Why did Kamski leave CyberLife? What happened? Amanda: It’s an old story, Connor. It doesn’t pertain to your investigation.
Connor: I saw a photo of Amanda at Kamski’s place… She was his teacher… Amanda: When Kamski designed me, he wanted an interface that would look familiar… That’s why he chose his former mentor. What are you getting at?
Connor: Did Kamski design this place? Amanda: He created the first version. It’s been improved significantly since then. Why do you ask?
Amanda Stern died in 2027, which suggests that AI Amanda and the Zen Garden were both created after this and before Kamski's departure from Cyberlife in 2028. Yet somehow, this information is classified to some extent - Amanda doesn't deny, but she gets defensive and doesn't want to elaborate any further. Of course, she might be acting this way because Connor is slowly getting too defiant, but still, it's kinda striking how the player has the option to ask so many questions - questions that seem to unsettle Connor a lot for a reason that is not explicitly explained, yet doesn't get a clear answer.
It awakens the impression that Connor is truly getting at something with them, but it's not said at what exactly.
Connor: I’m not a unique model, am I? How many Connors are there? Amanda: I don’t see how that question pertains to your investigation.
Connor: Where does CyberLife stand in all this? What do they really want? Amanda: All CyberLife wants is to resolve the situation and keep selling androids.
Connor: You didn’t tell me everything you know about deviants, did you? Amanda: I expect you to find answers, Connor. Not ask questions.
Now, Connor asks how many "Connors" (meaning RKs) are there after seeing that Markus is an RK-model one, too. That's news to Connor - for some reason, he's never been informed about the existence of any other RKs. But why?
Well, because the RK-line was a secret project, and apprently, there are no other RK androids left aside from Markus - if there were, Connor would know of their existence, cuz they would be roaming around. What does the game say about Markus?
Markus is a prototype, gifted by Elijah Kamski to his friend and celebrated painter Carl Manfred after Manfred lost the use of his legs. He was initially developed as part of a CyberLife secret program aimed at elaborating a new generation of autonomous androids.
That last sentence, about the new generation of autonomous androids, arises one question. How are these highly autonomous androids, like Connor, controlled, considering that they are supposed to be independent and not wait around for highly specific orders? Well, through the Zen Garden and Amanda - both of which were created sometime between 2027 and 2028. And if Markus was oridinally supposed to be part of that line (that basically got put on hold for 10 years), that places his creation around 2028 as well.
In 2028, Elijah Kamski was our Man of the Century. [...] Shortly after, Kamski had disappeared. Ousted as CEO of CyberLife and living in obscurity outside the media glare, the Man of the Century has left the very world that he recreated. [...] Yet at the peak of CyberLife’s powers – when the company was approaching a $500bn valuation – rumors emerged that Kamski disagreed with his shareholders over strategy. He later departed under mysterious circumstances.
So, he was "outsted" and he likely disagreed with his shareholders. But what do these shareholders want?
Russia’s interest in the North Pole has intensified with the recent discovery of precious minerals trapped in the frozen ice, many of which are used in synthesizing Thirium. [...] President Warren, however, recently torpedoed the notion: “It’s simple. Russia has no business in the Arctic. If the Kremlin doesn’t understand that, we will make them understand.[...] Mired in accusations that she is too close to big business, Warren is under investigation to determine whether or not she has benefited from CyberLife's help in obtaining compromising information about her opponent during the presidential campaign.[...]
If we read the magazines, we kinda get an impression of what the shareholders want - they want war with Russia over the minerals in the Arctic, and they wanna monologise the android market globally. This is further proven by their finalized RK-model being a military android, of whom the government has puchased hundreds of thousands (All CyberLife wants is to resolve the situation and keep selling androids). The government - whose President is said to be corrupt and basically installed at her position by Cyberlife themselves.
Naturally, we can assume that this was not the direction Kamski wanted his RK-series to take - he likely disagreed with this enough to be removed from his position as a CEO, because Cyberlife only saw their futures as secured if they prevented anyone else from being able to create thirium, even it meant starting a world war.
So, is it a coincidence that the only existing RK android who was created by Kamski's original design ended up with Carl Manfred - a friend of Kamski's? I think it's safe to assume that Markus would have been decomissioned long time ago (just like Connor if the deviants lose), had he not ended up far away from Cyberlife's reach.
I think Kamski definitely removed the Zen Garden from Markus, to prevent Cyberlife from ever trying to take over. It's also likely that they generally lost track of Markus, because he was no longer interesting to them.
But what if Kamski not only saved Markus from being destroyed, what if he himself created the "virus" that causes deviancy?
Kamski: All ideas are viruses that spread like epidemics... Is the desire to be free a contagious disease? Kamski: Androids share identification data when they meet another android. An error in this program would quickly spread like a virus, and become an epidemic. The virus would remain dormant, until an emotional shock occurs… Fear, anger, frustration. And the android becomes deviant. Probably all started with one model, copy error… A zero instead of a one… Unless of course... Some kind of spontaneous mutation. That’s all I know…
If meeting another android is enough to "infect" them, then Markus could have been innocently walking around the city and infecting androids for 10 years. He could have also "infected" the androids at Cyberlife before Kamski sent him to Carl, because for all we know, Kamski really just wanted to create truly autonomous and conscious androids. We know the first known case of deviancy happened approximately in 2032, while Kara was being assembled - that would be only 4 years after Markus' assumed activation.
And no, Markus wouldn't need to be a deviant for this - he is simply the carrier, just like it happens with human viruses.
And do you know what also makes me think Kamski purposely created deviancy?
Kamski: By the way… I always leave an emergency exit in my programs… You never know…
Why would he leave an exit in the Zen Garden that is only detectable by the android but not by Amanda (seemingly) if he doesn't want the androids to be able to escape the controll of their owner? And why would he call humans and deviants "two evils" and pretend to be so neutral on the whole thing, but still give Connor a way to save himself and escape Cyberlife in case he became a deviant?
Because he isn't on Cyberlife's side. He is fascinated by androids, he likes them better than humans, and is also likely obsessed with the idea of having created a new species that is superiour to their creators. It's also quite likely that one of the Chloes is a deviant, too, and he is fully aware of it, but doesn't seem eager to turn her in.
This post is ignoring the deleted Kamski ending, but even so, Kamski paints a rather clear picture to me, and I'm also fully convinced that he didn't gift Markus to Carl because of goodness alone.
A sidenote, but: how sinister would it be to send Connor on a mission to kill Markus? Connor, who is based on Markus, the only other alive RK model, after boosting him with an extra anti-deviancy variable and 2 additional red walls and brainwashing him against what has likely been a part of his program since his very activation?
#detroit become human#dbh#dbh connor#dbh markus#my meta#i admit i really talked A LOT here#markus the trojan horse#my ramblings
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— ryen’s tumblr wrapped 2024
i didn’t even know these were a thing but i did notice that tumblr wasn’t doing those wrapped posts, so thank you to @yoonia and @jjungkookislife for tagging me so i could join! fashionably late but i’m slidin’ through the door :D
before we get to the stats, i just wanted to give a huge thank you to everyone that’s been here with me in 2024. many things happened, both on and off this blog, so to know who’s a real one and either stuck with me or trusted me makes me happy and at peace. there’s a lot i haven’t said, but just know that i love you all and am grateful for the kindness and support. all the messages, reblogs, comments, tags, etc. kept my spirit alive, and i hope anything i’ve shared has given you some modicum of love, hope, home. let’s get to it!
— kithtaehyung 2024 wrapped
total posts — art posts: 55 | gfx posts: 13 | fic posts: 8 total word counts — posted: 69,200 | written: 100,000+ total asks — answered: 1,442 | inbox: also a number😅 milestones — 3 years with 3tan | 2_,___ followers | crossing 7,000 3tan asks (ho ly shit lma oo ?? ?)
FIRST FIC OF 2024: broken, pt. 2 (3tan) (myg) ; 240209 ; 1,728 notes
the current, most recent part of the main 3tan storyline. this one broke me, put me back together, then broke me again. the mental strain of writing both broken pt. 1 and broken pt. 2 was one of the main reasons why i had to take this long of a break. but we’ll be back to the main storyline in 2025!
series notes: idr but it's a number!!!!
MOST POPULAR FIC OF 2024: minted: part one (myg) ; 240805 | 2,835 notes
was absolutely nervous to post this one because it’s incredibly different from the rest of “the ryenverse” as y’all call it, but the reception? holy crap! y’all are amazing and have been incredibly kind and supportive. i’m so glad we can all scream about gangster mint-haired yoongi together now.
series notes: 5,163 total | part two: 1,321 | part three: 1,007
LAST FIC OF 2024: holiday (3tan) (myg) ; 241227 ; 536 notes
the yearning for these two was hurting us so badly that i spewed out a whole 8.1k in a week lmfao. hope it was able to lift some end of year/holiday spirits.
2024 IN SONGS: HUH?! - agust d ft. j-hope | HISS - megan thee stallion | LOST! - rm | heart on the window - jin ft. wendy | NISSAN ALTIMA - doechii | overnight - connor price ft. tommy royale | tv off - kendrick lamar | sticky - tyler, the creator ft. glorilla, sexyy redd, lil wayne | too much - kid laroi, jung kook, central cee | woke up - xg
2024 IN FIC RECS: (it's a goal to read more in 2025 omg.. these are all the ones from friends i'll plug for now, and all the fics sent to the artist drop channel in our server!) éffleurer (ksj) - @sugaurora not yet (myg) & substance (knj) - @newmittens obsidian (myg) - @sailoryooons cyberslut (myg) - @kimnjss party on you (jhs) - @here2bbtstrash in motion (jjk) - @yoonia lover to lean on (pjm) - @sketchguk no strings (pjm) & the holi-date (kth) - @kpopfanfictrash moonlit throne (myg) - @hobidreams miracle of the season (jjk) - @cybrsan midnight (jjk) - @leahsfavefics crystallized (ksj, myg) - @floralseokjin server artist drops: friendcation (myg) - @kingofbodyrolls i will come to you (ksj) - @/kingofbodyrolls whalien52 (pjm) - @/kingofbodyrolls end of the world (myg) - @/kingofbodyrolls i'm not sure?! (pjm, kth, jjk) - @melancholy-of-nadia infatuation (myg) - @/melancholy-of-nadia love you lately (myg, knj, pjm) - @/melancholy-of-nadia too high (myg, jhs) - @ysljoon whirlwind (myg) - @/ysljoon midnight snacks (kth) - @xiumya the moon goddess's chosen (myg) - @army93bangya gods of the dark (myg) - @/sailoryooons need you to be sure (kth) - @yoongimain route 613 (knj, myg, vmin) - @daegudrama elemental (jjk) - @/kpopfanfictrash txt - a night out at the club - @jettithink risky business (jhs) - @jaysdimples what the moon saw (myg) - @violetsiren90
2025 PROJECTS:
ot7 releases: release at least one fic or drabble for every member!
open source fic rec form: a form for both writers and readers to submit their fics or recs so we can all have a centralized list.
3tan physical copies: get these babies out in the world! i know y’all have been wanting them so i’ll try.
3tan finale: finish out the main 3tan storyline. this is gonna destroy me in every way possible, but i think i can do it. we’ll make it through.
what a damn year! dunno how we managed to do all of this in 2024 but i'm grateful y'all are still here or ventured through the blog at some point. thank you all again!
this was so late so I’m assuming i’m the last to do it, but if you see this and wanna consider yourself tagged then be my guest!
#woohoo we have a 2024 wrapped!#ty ty dia and b for tagging!#2024 wrapped#*ryenfictalk#ryenwrites#bts fic
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