#programmed alter

[egotisicenigma]

「　REMNANTS ?!   ｣

➜ @ a term for an alter who isn’t the core/original, but rather the remains/remnants of who it was. whatever was left of the core who intergrated with fragments.

(mainly for RAMCOA/TBMC survivors)

[outnumberedsins]

Hot take, but I think the more recent OEA community very commonly forgets or excludes survivors who didn't go through severe MC or programming, despite those individuals likely being the most common victims. So, just a reminder, you don't have to be programmed to be an OA survivor.

[coining-system-terms]

Secret Keeper - a programmed alter who refuses to tell anyone certain information, whether it be about abusers, details of abuse or similar

Flag Meaning : The blue represents hidden information, or secrets. The gradient of colours represents how the secret keeper may be hiding different information from different people (ex: what can be "public knowledge," vs what can be known by abuser A vs what abuser B can know). The icon in the center represents holding secrets and the flag entirely mirrors the Tattletale flag as these roles are similar yet opposite.

[fragmentedfae-userboxes]

These are strictly ramcoa/cult survivor related

[malignant-narc]

pov: you finally enter/get trauma therapy and in the first appointment they tell you you can control your dissociation (im part of a ramcoa/programmed system, our dissociation is HIGH and we're very proud to have made the progress we have) and that if im too dissociated from my trauma the therapy wont work and therefore its my own fault if it wont 🤡 LET ME OUTTT I JUST WANT HELP

[pink-devolve]

One of the worst parts of being a ramcoa survivor is not having a space to talk about your story, because it’s too upsetting for other people to hear about.

Not only can I not vent about it, but I can’t even talk about the things I went through. I’ve had two therapists drop me because they couldn’t handle it. One time when I was in the hospital, my nurse started crying and had to go home for the rest of the day. One of my ex partners broke up with me because they didn’t feel comfortable being with a 🚦 survivor. And I didn’t tell any of them the heavy details of my abuse. Just me surviving something I was forced into was too much for them.

And that’s not unique, every ramcoa survivor I know that has tried to find help for their trauma has had similar experiences.

I’m lucky enough to have finally found a therapist that knows how to treat me. And a week ago I said something that had happened to me, and idk what happened. He jumped and said “oh my god” like he just watched someone get killed. He immediately apologized, but it hurt. Why did I have to go through something that is so revolting to everyone.

[ratinacoat]

RAMCOA is antisemitic, but that doesn't mean your trauma is

I haven't made a post about this in a hot minute. I've been taking a break because hate escalated to full on death threats.

When we say "RAMCOA is antisemitic", we are not talking about the trauma you're describing it with. The term RAMCOA comes from antisemitism. There are real/better terms you can use for your trauma, but RAMCOA shouldn't be one of them. Here's a post I made listing some terms.

No one is calling your trauma antisemitic, we are calling the term you're using antisemitic. Using it unknowingly doesn't make you antisemitic either, and no one is saying that. Using it becomes problematic when you disregard what people are telling you, when you ignore the voices of Jewish people who are expressing their discomfort with this term. System spaces are not safe for all systems if that excludes Jewish systems.

Use the proper terms, don't defend a term that comes from antisemitism, conspiracy theories, and malpractice.

[requiemsystem]

PROGRAMMING VS TBMC VS CONDITIONING

TW talks of TBMC and programming so one thing i see a lot of confusion about is the difference between programming, TBMC, and conditioning, i hope this post will help clarify the difference between these conditioning is the act of getting someone accustomed to something or to behave in a specific way, this can be done accidentally or intentionally, and it can be positive or negative. this is not always done through abuse and is not always premeditated, this also does not have to be done by a group of people. an example would be if someone is rewarded every time they do a specific action, they will associate that action with getting a reward and be more likely to do it TBMC is the act of intentionally implementing cues (intentionally implemented triggers) into someone to get them to think or behave in specific ways, this is always done intentionally and is negative in nature. this is always done through abuse and is premeditated. an example would be if someone is abused while exposed to a specific phrase and forced to do a specific action, they will associate that phrase with that action and then the phrase will trigger the action to where the obvious abuse is no longer needed to cause the action programming is the act of intentionally creating dissociated states in an individual using TBMC, this is always premeditated and done intentionally. it is always done negatively, and it has to be done by a group due to the organized nature, there need to be multiple people to reinforce the cues. these states will be used as "blank slates" to instill TBMC responses into and get to behave in certain ways, there may be certain cues that are intended to bring out specific states (alters). not all programmers know they are causing DIDOSDD, they just recognize dissociative responses and use these for their own benefit - grey

[shatteredempiire]

I shouldn't have to ask people to tell my that my job is done. I shouldn't have to ask people for praise for the job. It's not even a job, it's a report. I'm sick of it. I feel disgusting, like a dog waiting for a reward after doing what it's supposed to do. I'm supposed to do this, it's what I was made to do.

I don't want this anymore. I don't want any of it anymore.

A dog is supposed to be put down when they aren't of use anymore. When they're broken.

When is it my turn?

[egotisicenigma]

「　SHACKLED ?!   ｣

➜ @ a term made for two alters who were made/programmed for eachother. this is a negative term made for programmed systems/alters who have survived RAMCOA/TBMC. This relationship can be handler/programmed or two programmed alters for any type (mostly found in beta, epsilon, twin, kappa, scapeboat programming)

(RAMCOA/TBMC EXCLUSIVE)

[outnumberedsins]

Scripts: What are they, and what aren't they?

Unfortunately, scripts have been subject to major misinformation within certian OEA spaces. Examples are terms such as 'miniscripts', how many scripts a system can have, what media can be a script, etc. This post will cover all of that, as well as provide sources to the best of my ability. These sources contain material that can be triggering, so please tred carefully.

What are scripts?

The term 'script' itself is linked to svalispeaks, who is not a good source. However, the concept itself is documented and referenced to in other ways, so please keep that in mind.

Simply put, a 'script' is a piece of media used as an internal organization program to lay out a systems innerworld, hierarchy, and parts. When done properly, scripts will be a seen in almost everything in a systems internal parts. Those scripted in a particular media will have alters based on characters and a piece of the innerworld based on the universe, each serving a specifically programmed purpose.[1, chp 4 & 6][2 , pg 94]

Scripting will typically begin in infancy or very young age, as any programming does. [3][4][5] This is because the older the child is, the more difficult it is to implement programming, as possible dissociative responses and state of integration have already begun to develop. [6]

Groups that attempt scripting are typically large, sophisticated and organized, as they require a substantial amount of space and time (ex. Multiple rooms and prompts, ability to perform wide ranges of abuse, ability to have frequent access to child). [3][4][5][7 , chp 2 & 4]

Internal structures are common in those who have dealt with TBMC. However, not all of them are scripts. The difference between other structures and scripts are the addition of specific media, such as a religious book, to outline the system.

Scripts vs Forced Introjection

Programmed Introject =/= Script =/= Forced Introject

People often confuse forced introjection for scripts. Sometimes, survivors may even confuse a general introject for a part of a script. While scripts do involve forced introjection, not all forced introjection is scripting.

A script involves more than one alter, programmed around one another, as well as effects to the system structure, innerworlds, and applied programs. Forced introjection does not have to be a part of a script, or even part of OEA at all.

A common example of non-scripted forced introjects, that may themselves be programmed, are abuser introjects. These introjects can be programmed, but may not be a part of a script. [8 , pg 51]

Outside of that, systems may have forced introjects that aren't programmed, or involved in OEA at all. This could be possible from further abuse at a later date, where the perpetrator utilizes the persons CDD to try and get them to split a certian introject. This could be an example of conditioning, but not programming.

Myths and Misinformation:

1. Any piece of media can be a script.

1a. Viable media for scripting must be simple enough for a young child to understand, must have clear and reoccurring themes and morals, and has a consistent storyline. This is due to age of the victim. Media that has been around for a long time are more than likely able to fit these things, along with the fact that repeat adaptations and reoccurrence of the story is common. New, complicated, and long pieces of media make scripting extremely difficult or impossible. Groups that do have the resources to script victims are more likely to resort to tried and true methods, and media that reflects their values [ex. Religious documents], rather then making up an entirely new scripting method.

2. There is no limit on the number of scripts you can have.

2a. Due to the nature of scripts being the complete base of the system, or a major part of it, it would be incredibly difficult to implement more than one script without it failing and breaking down. The child would become very confused and internal structures wouldn't work as required. There is hardly any reason to have more than one script anyways, given the time and effort gone in to creating one.

3. 'Miniscripts.'

3a. 'Miniscripts' are the idea of a script that purposely only involves one layer, or only a couple of alters. While it is possible to have failed or broken programming that results in a broken script, the purpose of a script itself means that it will inhabit more than just a small area of the system. Like previously mentioned, the presence of multiple scripts can easily cause dysfunction and break down the system. Often, 'miniscripts' are just other organizational programming, forced introjection, or simply introjects by themselves.

4. Every TBMC survivor with a CDD has a script.

4a. This is completely false. In fact, it's likely less common to have a script, let alone a fully functioning/complete one, due to the time and effort it takes to implement. You can be programmed and not have a script. It's possible to not have a script yet have other organizational programming. You do not need one.

Specific Scripts:

There were a lot of sources on this matter that I've found but don't particularly trust, but have been sited by ones I do. For this reason I have left out mentions of specific scripts as I didn't have detailed references. However, for the sake of this post, I'd like to mention these following specific scripts I've seen mentioned, however brief, in reading:

The Wizard of Oz

Alice In Wonderland

Nursery Rhymes and Fairy Tales

Original Disney Princesses

Religious Texts

This is not to say these are the only scripts possible, ever. These are just ones I've seen referenced to in a clinical sense, and thus I assume are the most common.

Thank you for reading. If you have any questions, feel free to send an ask or reply to this post. A reminder that I am not a professional, I am flawed, and am just doing my best.

[coining-system-terms]

Defeciopus : an alter who is programmed but the program doesn't act as intended, wasn't reinforced enough or other reason.

Flag Meaning : The black in the center represents the programmer / handler / abuser. The white on the outside represents the rest of the system. The gradient represents how failed the program could be. The weak link icon in the alternate flag represents the alter being a weak link in the programming or being called one.

[system-role-flags]

🌈Programmed alter flag🍭

A flag for alters in systems who were

programmed

🌸general flag for any type of programmed🌸

🌸alter🌸

ONLY TO BE USED BY PROGRAMMED ALTERS ⚠️

**ENDOS DNI**

[tales-from-systok]

One time I posted a video about how I view our own persecutor/programmed alters as misguided and people in the comments were like “well not all persecutors are misguided” and it might have been my NPD talking but that statement was so stupid to me. No where did I say ALL persecutors are misguided, I said I viewed my own as misguided. I wish TikTok brain rot didn’t take over peoples minds and they still knew how to read.

The media literacy on TikTok is worse than Tumblr, which is.. saying something for sure.

[fragmentedfae-userboxes]

This is mostly intended for ramcoa/cult survivor systems

[pink-devolve]

As someone who is a programmed PF-DID system, we need to stop using the term HC-DID. Here’s why ⬇️

1. The system that coined the term is a groomer and is anti-semitic. There is evidence(some screenshots included below) of the MayMay system(The 20y/o coiner of the term) being sexual towards minors up to 5 years younger than them. In MayMay’s discord server, 15 year olds are allowed in NSFW channels that have sexting in them. MayMay has joked about sexually assaulting a 16 y/o. There is a 15 year old that seems to always be with MayMay, and constantly talks about interacting with MayMay in a NSFW context. Etc etc etc. There have also been screenshots of MayMay using the term “Jew” as a derogatory insult.

2. The term excludes programmed systems that do not have a highly complex case of DID Many programmed systems can not use the term “HC-DID” due to having OSDD, not having PF-DID, etc. All programmed systems have distinct differences from non-programmed systems, but programmed systems without a highly complex case of DID don’t have a straightforward term to describe their experience. I’ve seen a lot of people use the term HC-DID and programmed interchangeably, and imo that’s not fair to other survivors trying to find community.

3. You can have a highly complex case of DID and not be programmed. You can have trauma that is just as extreme as the trauma experienced by programmed systems, end up with a highly complex case of PF-DID, and not be programmed. I’ve met some non-programmed PF-DID systems with insane system structures. One system I knew was not programmed, but had hundreds of different alters, all with very specific roles, hierarchy, and layers, that all fronted to do very specific tasks. They told me they had a specific alter who fronted to wash their hands, and another specific alter who fronted to sleep on wednesdays. Their case could absolutely be considered highly complex, but again, they weren’t programmed.

4. We have terms used/created by professionals, that don’t have any of these issues. The terms mind-controlled DID (MC-DID) and Torture based mind control DID (TBMC-DID) have both been coined by professionals, can be used with other plural disorders(MC-OSDD), or to describe all plural disorders at once(MC-system), can’t be used to describe non-programmed systems, etc.

Overall, I don’t have an issue with individuals that use the term HC-DID, I just think it’s annoying that it’s the default way to say “programmed system”. I honestly think the term is a fine way to describe systems with a highly complex structure, and should still be used in that context. But if we do that, the term should be open to non-programming survivors as well. There is absolutely no reason to fight over this term. It’s really not that deep. But if you’d like to debate respectfully I am happy to.