#terrible discourse

[quasi-normalcy]

This is what I'm talking about. Like, this is embarrassing. People should be embarrassed for uncritically sharing it.

"STEM people are incapable of knowing when they're being lied to--" JESUS FUCKING GOD! Is this a thing you actually believe? Like...genuinely? That the only reason why anyone understands falsehood is because they read We Have Always Lived in the Castle when they were 17?

Do the black hearts of the STEM people beat at all, in your estimation? If you cut them, do they bleed tar? Sand? Wires? Do they think thoughts, do you imagine, or do they just process binary telemetry through their neural circuitry? Do they sleep in coffins?? Do they regenerate in alcoves???

And what about you? How, one wonders, the fuck do you know what you think that you know? Were you just blindly, credulously, and uncritically believing everything that you were told until some magnanimous English teacher, Moses-like, came down from the Mountain to explain the concept of deception to you?? Do you think that this is how things work? Do you just intrinsically know truth from falsehood because you read Lolita at some point in your long and storied career???

Look---I think humanities are valuable! I'm doing a PhD in a humanities discipline (in fact, applying the techniques of the humanities to the analysis of science), so it would be pretty awkward if I didn't! Humanities can make contributions to the vast ediface of human knowledge that sciences can't. Humanities can even make valid, substantive critiques of science that sciences can't. But this? This? This is just uncharitable, self-important BULLSHIT that any humanist, with their vaunted critical thinking skills, should be fucking ashamed to spread.

[azatas]

"we need more complex female characters" you couldn't even handle her

[valyrfia]

okay now give me your thoughts on the george and max fight

Honestly I fall solidly on the side of Max with this one and there's a few reasons why. However, the main point and the one I REALLY want to hammer home is that the drivers' currently need a competent GPDA director who is on the pulse of these overly harsh penalties that the FIA has suddenly become happy to start giving out. George has just proven that rather than doing his job (which he volunteered for) which is call out the harshness of these penalties, he would much rather throw any and all of his colleagues under the bus as long as he himself benefits in terms of track position. It's not a good look.

Honestly I'm of the opinion that the current GPDA action of 'a few warnings' doesn't seem to be working. The FIA is drunk on power and is all too happy to call the union's bluff and George Russell, their DIRECTOR, suddenly being pro penalties in the stewards' room just strengthens the FIA's belief that they don't actually need to take on board any of the drivers' concerns. George not only completely lost Max's respect but he also destroyed the legitimacy of the recent GPDA complaints and quite honestly, maybe a controversial opinion but I think it's ground enough for George to be forced to step down as the drivers' representative.

TLDR: Max is completely in the right and George acting in his own interest may have just destroyed any chance of the FIA taking the drivers' current concerns seriously.

[aurenflare]

shocked to find out that people are actually super upset about shannon's new announcement. like hello ?? this is the best news ive gotten all day. she gets to take her time on this next book and make it the best she can AND we get some awesome new scenes in graphic novel format w an awesome new artist AND i get to stay here in this stupid fandom for another billion trillion years. why are u bitching

[essektheylyss]

just remembered there will be new Essek content in the Nein animated show. that is supposedly premiering this year. I am being SO normal about it.

[infiniteglitterfall]

I do realize this is a real niche post but I cannot tell you how many damn times over the past 10 months I've seen gentiles tell Jews some version of, "Your own holy book SAYS God doesn't want you to have a country yet!"

And it's such an incredibly blatant and weirdly specific tell that they're not part of something that grew from progressive grassroots, but something based on right-wing astroturfing.

1. Staying in your own lane is a pretty huge progressive principle.

Telling people in another group that their deity said they couldn't do X is, I think, as far as you can get from your own lane.

2. It's also very clearly Not In Your Own Lane because I've never seen anyone actually be able to EITHER quote the passage they're thinking of, OR cite where it is.

It's purely, "I saw somebody else say this, and it seemed like it would make me win the debate I wasn't invited to."

3. It betrays a complete ignorance of Jewish culture and history.

Seriously? You don't know what you're referencing, its context, or even what it specifically says, but you're... coming to a community that reads and often discusses the entire Torah together each year, at weekly services... who have massive books holding generations of debate about it that it takes 7 years to read, at one page per day....

And saying, "YOUR book told you not to!"

I've been to services where we discussed just one word from the reading the whole time. The etymology. The connotations. The use of it in this passage versus in other passages.

And then there is the famous saying, "Ask two Jews, get three opinions." There is a culture of questioning and discussion and debate throughout Judaism.

You think maybe, in the decades and decades of public discussion about whether to buy land in Eretz Yisrael and move back there; whether it should keep being an individual thing, or keep shifting to intentional community projects; what the risks were; whether it should really be in Argentina or Canada or someplace instead; how this would be received by the Jews and gentiles already there, how to respect their boundaries, how to work with them before and during; and whether ending up with a fuckton of Jews in one place might not be exactly as dangerous for them as it had always been everywhere else....

You think NOBODY brought up anything scriptural? Nobody looked through the Torah, the Nevi'im, the Ketuvim, or the Talmud for any thoughts about any of this?? It took 200 years and some rando in the comments to blow everyone's minds???

4. It relies on an unspoken assumption that people can and should take very literal readings of religious texts and use them to control others.

And a sense of ownership and power over those texts, even without any accompanying knowledge about what they say.

It's kind of a supercessionist know-it-all vibe. It reads like, "I know what you should be doing. Because even if I'm not personally part of a fundamentalist branch of a related religion, the culture I'm rooted in is."

Bonus version I found when I was looking for an example. NOBODY should do this:

There are a lot of people who pull weird historical claims like "It SAYS Abraham came from Chaldea! That's Iraq!"

Like, first of all, a group is indigenous to a land if it arose as a people and culture there, before (not because of) colonization.

People aren't spontaneously spawning in groups, like "Boom! A new indigenous people just spawned!!"

People come from places. They go places. Sometimes, they gel as a new community and culture. Sometimes, they bop around for a while and eventually assimilate into another group.

Second: THE TORAH IS NOT A HISTORY TEXTBOOK OMFG.

It's an oral history, largely written centuries after the fact.

There is a TON of historical and archaeological research on when and where the Jewish culture originated, how it developed over time, etc. It's extremely well-established.

Nobody has to try to pull what they remember from Sunday school for this argument.

[theotherbuckley]

Not to spread discourse but I’m gonna because wdym BoBs are saying “that LFJ interview was clearly conducted by a Tommy stan it’s hilarious” as if literally all the other fuckijg journalists aren’t biased buddies???? IM SORRY WHAT.

[cuddytism]

is House M.D. feminist? is Fox Broadcasting Company a queer ally? is this 60 year old actor my friend?

/ref

[twilightarc-gm]

✊ Proud "villainfucker"

Given some recent posts about (gag) morality and antagonist vs. villain --I'd like to reference this good post with my new favorite meme quadrant.

The post seen here also comes with someone's added quadrant which I will now use to full effect to make my stance clear--if it wasn't already.

Images are donghua, but I am basing my assessment off the translated novels.

while i am saying this in a humorous way, I am not joking.

[fromtheseventhhell]

I love how people are only ever interested in defending Arya's right to be weird-looking. It's never defending her intelligence from people who claim she's incapable of thinking for herself, highlighting her importance to the plot and refusing to see her as just a prop, acknowledging how much of her story gets stolen and given to other characters, talking about her trauma or how often it gets erased and overlooked, seeing her as more than just an attack dog/bodyguard, etc. Nope. It's just a "why can't people let Arya be ugly/unconventional looking? :(" post every other week because people are, for whatever reason, obsessed with how Arya is visually perceived. One of the most misinterpreted characters yet the issue is only ever with her being portrayed as "too pretty" or the wrong "type" of pretty. This fandom will entirely rewrite a character's motivations, values, and role in the story to the point that they consider references to canon "hate" but! The true injustice to canon is we acknowledge that she is described as pretty several times. Arya simply existing as her pretty, important, and non-conforming self is too complex and confusing for people to comprehend 😔.

[flurmitcraff]

I'm still so very sad about many things but also specifically about Mumbo taking the Sahara merch down from his store. I completely understand why and respect his decision, and i think the company that works with him does the designs to order so that minimizes wastage...but Sahara was one of my favorite hermitcraft projects ever and such an ambitious redstone design and all their season 6 shenanigans meant a lot to me.

I'm no stranger to still loving the *work* despite the terrible actions of one of the creators (orson scott card hates everything I am and Speaker to the dead is still a great book lol) but its evident Sahara means a lot to Mumbo, and it couldn't be easy for the hermits as Iskall was a member and friend for so many years. I don't mean any more speculation to this post other than this whole situation is upsetting and *doubly so* for the victims and Vault Hunters community that directly financed or were employed by him full time. This doesn't just concern fan culture but peoples livelihoods.

[soup-mother]

on Elysium Tumblr you'd have Queer Funnymen getting really defensive about their job in the international collaboration police

[essektheylyss]

I do find the uptick in folks who got upset that some of us felt like there wasn't enough follow-through on narrative consequences suddenly turning around wanting the Hells to be hunted by Vasselheim very funny, because I'm just like... so what I'm hearing is that you want your faves to be on the run from religious leaders because the choices they made had such massive ramifications and so aggressively spurned that religion it demanded exile if not outright execution, because it makes for a more interesting story with more interesting characters.

I understand the canary in the role mine now: you're jealous of me. You want what the Essek stans have.

[antiship-ciel]

"Kids need to stay out of adult spaces!!" -someone who is in a fandom that centers around kid's media.

[utilitycaster]

Ozo is somehow literally worse in every way than Otohan. Like. not to be salty here but unless they had a baked-in connection to an existing character (Zathuda and Liliana) all the high level generals of Ludinus just are incredibly powerful murderous stat blocks with no personality, and that's like...a profound failure of narrative. I don't know why they care about this cause or why they're here; even the murders at their hands fall flat because I'm like wow you got killed by Generic Sky-High Challenge Rating Entity (Red-themed)....yawn.

[isalisewrites]

You were joking when you said Harry's gonna top in ur fic right?? I mean nothing wrong with that but...

If you're talking about Terrible, But Great, I have neither confirmed nor denied a single damn thing about sexual positions between Tom and Harry. I have not stated either way.

Nor will I.

You don't know nor will you know until those chapters are posted.

Also, I'll reiterate this: it's super fucking insulting for readers to be so hard pressed about particular sexual positions in Terrible, But Great. It's also super fucking creepy, ngl. They're 17 and 18 years old and they're both VIRGINS atm. It's weird. Please stop it, good lord.

I have worked my ass off just to get to where those boys are at in the story. Will there be sex? Yes, in Arc Four. But my story isn't about smut; it's about their love. If readers want a specific position to be maintained for a character, then it's best to seek smut that caters to that. There are plenty of Tomarry/Harrymort stories that have Harry solo bottoming.

Terrible, But Great is a slow burn romance. It has never been nor will ever be about who tops or who bottoms. It's about intimacy. True intimacy.

You're free to stick around for that, but if you're so worried about who tops and who bottoms, then you've missed the entire point and spirit of my story.