#tmnt 2012 theory

[iscdisc]

Post-Molecular Scatter Donnie returns ! 👀

There's a lot of dialogue in this video via captions, I'm so sorry about that but I didn't know how else to convey the narrative,, 😭

Also here's a brief explanation of the video if it's still confusing for some ! It honestly just boils down to me personally seeing Mikey being the one to make this connection / association between Donnie becoming a being created by the Aeon Crystal (Similar to Wingnut and Screwloose-) and April's Mother (Who turned out to be a Kraang monster in disguise-), and because of that connection slash association Mikey starts freaking out because of the horrors they all went through with April's Mother (Especially himself though, considering he was the first to be basically eating alive or something by her??). He's scared that his now Aeon created Brother we'll try to take them out or harm them in some way- You know? 😭

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[agerasiaa]

If I had a nickel for every time I got invested in a sibling dynamic where the blue-coded eldest is the "prodigy," the father figure’s favorite, the golden child, in the eyes of the red-coded younger sibling who holds resentment towards the elder’s perceived "perfection," while in reality, the eldest—often depicted as the responsible leader—struggles under the weight of that responsibility and the pressure to be a good role model, feeling like they have to live up to impossible standards (hello, eldest daughter syndrome), and the younger sibling, more impulsive and prone to anger, wrestles with feelings of being overshadowed and misunderstood, I’d have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it’s weird that it has happened twice… Then again, maybe it's not so weird because—let's be real—I’m a sucker for family angst in fiction.

Yeah and also the brother duo’s have a tech-savvy, intelligent younger brother!!

[incorrect-tmnt2012-quotes]

April: Your boyfriend is kinda… Raph.

Mona Lisa: And your boyfriend is extremely Donatello. What’s your point?

[tae-rhymeswithslay]

ATTENTION JONATELLO NATION🗣️🗣️

DONNIE is CANONICALLY the one with the awful handwriting!!

bro writes in either all caps or like a fucking first grader 💀💀

CASEY CANONICALLY writes in neat ass cursive AND HES LEFT HANDED

i knew it i knew it i knew casey had ‘secretly good handwriting’ vibes i so totally called it 👊👊

do what you will with this information

[optichocolate]

Found family but they are all self sacrificial and care about each other SO much it becomes a reason for conflict.

[hitwiththefandomz]

Hear me out…. @butterfilledpockets made me do it with their comic color palette

[squishycat330]

Proposal: Slash is the turtles half brother

I wanted to point this out, (especially before I post something else) it was something I thought of like weeks ago—

so this acured to me wall I was drawing slash Slash was mutated, (obviously) And When someone’s mutated thay take the DNA of the last thing they touched (kinda. plant, animals, humans ect) obviously the last person to touch Spike was Raph,

so dose that mean that Slash it technically their Half Brother? or related in some way?

I get the feeling he’d be considered an Older/oldest) brother.

I’ve never seen anyone bring this theory up before and it confuses me since it’s so interesting. I actually mentioned this theory to two people and they thought it was neat and that it made since.

Also something I also want to add is, Slash acts much more feral then the other turtles, I get the feeling this may be because he has the least human DNA haveing been mutated with Raphs and not Splinters, it’s also probably partially from just getting mutated in general

(June 1st)

I had watched that episode the day prior to drawing these and wall I was drawing I was like 'hmm I wonder if he's like a brother to the WAIT!-" and a spent the next however long thinking about it. anyway this was basically the test drawings for my "own" slash “design” which I’ll post tomorrow if I get to it/write it out.

(Tmnt 2012 Amazing Adventures: issue 3/4 The Meeting of the Mutanimals)

[sushi-rat]

When you and your girlfriend find out she's a badass, alien/human mutant (Mutant Casey Jones)

[poppy-pl]

Making some studies. It’s been a migraine the line art but I think I am getting the hang of it.

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[iscdisc]

Anyone who's familiar with my content on Insta / TikTok most likely already knows about this theory (But I guess you could consider it an AU of sorts??) that I have with 2012 Donatello post, "The Power Inside Her" (And yes, the only reason why I drew this / am talking about this is because of my previous post about Za-Naron, okay- Lmao) ! But because I haven't brought this to Tumblr, I'm talking about it again- 👍✨

Before I get into it, I want to preface this whole thing by saying that I fully acknowledge that this all could just be writing issues / faults with the writers and their lack of properly explaining anything or giving prior context to certain relationships / dynamics. I just want to get that out of the way immediately, since I understand some people brushing these things off as one of 2012's many notorious writing issues-

BUT.

I wholeheartedly believe that it's entirely possible that the Donatello we follow after the events of, "The Power Inside Her" is not actually the real Donatello at all and the real Donatello that we have been following before this episode legitimately perished. And let me explain why I say this- 👀

First of all, I want to establish some foundation for this possibility by pointing us in the direction of the episode, "Bat in the Belfry". During this episode, Mikey (Alongside Casey-) end up giving Wingnut and Screwloose temporary sentient life (With this only being temporary given the events of the episode-). Wingnut and Screwloose are previously established in this episode to be comic book characters / fictional characters, they were never real to begin with. Yet despite the fact that they have no prior existence physically or in any capacity of reality, the Aeon's power (Za-Naron's power-) was able to fully give them life and an established sense of self. We see throughout the episode that Wingnut and Screwloose fully believe that they're alive and well, not understanding when Mikey and Casey constantly try to inform them that they are just comic book characters and aren't actually real the way that they perceive themselves to be real. We also see the Aeon crystal / Za-Naron give sentient life to one of the villains from the same comic (Which is why I included a picture of that as well-), and we too can see that this villain acknowledges its existence, since it carries out it's normal activities as if nothing is strange about its situation at all.

I'm laying this as the foundation for this theory, because my main point with bringing this up is that the "fake" (you could say) Donatello would have no reason to question his existence or believe that he is not who he is. You know what I mean?

Another reason why I believe "fake" Donnie wouldn't question his existence is because the Aeon Crystal doesn't exist anymore by the time he comes into the picture "once again", which is another point that I'm going to get into right now.

The only reason why Wingnut and Screwloose became aware of their predicament / fully accepted the fact that they weren't real is because they were exposed to the crystal and its seemingly overwhelming energy. As you can see in the picture I provided, they became very distorted and deranged after being exposed to this. But with this "fake" Donatello, there's nothing Aeon related for him to be exposed to.

During the last minutes of, "The Power Inside Her", we see April use what was left of the crystal (Since she had broken it prior as a means of freeing Za-Naron / freeing herself from Za-Naron's control-) to bring Donnie back into existence. But that's exactly why I have this theory?? Not only is bringing somebody back to life an almost impossible feat, even for April (Which I know the show says that Donnie was simply molecularly scattered and not actually GONE gone, but I don't buy that for a second / I feel like they only said that to make the situation a little more "kid friendly". in my opinion, that dude perished, okay. LMAO), but I don't even think that the Aeons abilities are even capable of something like that. Returning life or performing resurrection is such a complicated issue, and I feel like the Aeons themselves would acknowledge that it's not as simple as just "bringing somebody back".

So because I don't think this is something that falls under the scope of what Aeons are genuinely capable of doing, on top of the fact that we've seen the crystal give sentient life to things that technically did not exist before this episode, I fully believe that the Donnie that we see get "brought back to life" by April is not actually him- Instead, this is a physical manifestation of how April remembers him being or essentially a Donnie that was "created" from her memories of him / experiences with him.

Point number three as to why I think this is not the real Donnie and instead a "fake" Donnie. April's relationship with Donatello drastically changes after this episode (At least, in my opinion-). Going back to when she "brought Donnie back to life", I wouldn't be surprised if she was envisioning all of the more positive interactions that she's had with him in the past and a lot of the attributes that she enjoyed from him, rather than the negative ones (i.e. Him disrespecting her boundaries a lot, him disrespecting her autonomy as a person, him stalking her, him constantly getting in between her and other people /primarily Casey but I digress- /, him feeling entitled to her as a person, him giving her pet names that made her uncomfortable and she clearly expressed that / Which this is kind of a niche example, but during one of the Xbox / PS3 videogame titles for this series, there's a dialogue cutscene where Donnie calls her his, "Chinchilla" for the first time I think?? But April very clearly expressed discomfort with that and asked him not to say that about her. Which it really pisses me off that he does it again in Season 3 when she's UNCONSCIOUS, and this game came out either during Season 1 or when Season 2 was airing- Like it's an old game. 💀 /, etc.), especially given that what caused her to break free from Za-Naron's control was Raph telling April to remember Donnie. During that montage, there were a lot of happier moments with Donatello.

I don't think it would be far-fetched to say that she essentially created her "perfect" or ideal version of him as a person-?? And I feel like this is heavily reflected through their dynamic post this episode.

April's not off-putted by some of his kind / caring gestures (Like the image example I provided above, such as him putting his hand on her back-).

During moments of intense grieving and stress, Donatello is giving her space and not hovering around her like he was more prone to doing in the past (In my opinion-).

Instead of it feeling incredibly forced by the writers, April being in close proximity to Donnie feels like a choice she's actively making or okay with. Prior to this, (to me) it felt like the writers would just put April in the same space as Donnie simply because they were pushing this romantic narrative between them. The numerous times that Donnie would have April in his lab during Seasons 1-2 gave off a vibe like he either pressured her to be there or it just felt difficult for her to decline-? Especially since there was a lot going on with her Father during both of these Seasons, and instead of that feeling like a reason she would want to be there on her own, it felt like an excuse to force her to be there- Does that make sense? Not to mention Donnie always being by her side coming across like he was crowding April instead of her actively wanting him there.

Donnie is more actively giving April her space at the same time too / not reacting when Casey is in closer proximity to her than himself. I'm not saying that this technically didn't occur before the aftermath of, "The Power Inside Her", but it just feels different now- I don't know how else to explain that.

I'm telling you right now, this moment from, "When World's Collide (Part 1)" is the first time I've seen them on screen acting this way. There has never been a moment like this one before, where April is joking around and laughing with Donnie and just being overall silly?? 2012 has never done something like this with these two on screen.

All of these instances lead me to believe that April (unintentionally) created her most ideal version of Donatello as a person. Taking away all the things that she didn't like or (rightfully) felt uncomfortable by, and only leaving the characteristics that she did enjoy about him. Which would obviously result in her having a much healthier / drastically improved dynamic with him moving forward.

There's also was only one moment that I feel Donnie was "weird" towards April again like he was in the past, but it didn't last long at all and it only happened once during Season 5 ("The Curse of Savanti Romero"-).

Another thing that I feel supports this theory is his relationship with Casey. From Season 3 to 4, it really felt like Donnie and Casey were forming a much better dynamic / their friendship had a steady progression. Sure, Donnie would still get annoyed with Casey from time to time, but it felt obvious that he viewed Casey as more of a friend / ally than a rival / "threat". Casey would also actively go out of his way to be around Donnie physically more, which I feel was a good sign of their friendship moving in a more positive direction. But then we get to "Tokka vs. The World", which takes place almost immediately after the events of, "The Power Inside Her" and it suddenly feels like Donnie's friendship progression with Casey just vanishes-?? Their dynamic feels like they're back in Season 2 again, minus the constant arguing about April (At least, from Donnie's perspective-).

A lot of the moments that we get with them during Season 5 kind of reinforce this for me. Donnie's reaction to Casey suggesting they get their hands on a couple of tanks during, "Scroll of the Demodragon", Donnie and Casey essentially arguing about how to deal with Kavaxas during, "The Forgotten Swordsman", Donnie's response to Casey in regards to his ghostbuster rip off inventions and how Donnie went out of his way to say everyone will get one except Casey during, "End Times"- Like, it really does feel as if their relationship regressed after the events of, "The Power Inside Her"- And while that does upset me, since as you all probably know by now I love those two to death, it does make complete sense in relation to this theory of this Donatello being "fake".

All of the progress and dynamic / friendship development Donnie and Casey went through? April was not privy to that. Like, at all. If my theory holds up and April did (unintentionally) "create" or manifest a version of Donatello from her memories of him using the remaining power of the Aeon crystal, then it would absolutely make sense why Donnie is treating Casey the way that he is during Season 5. I'm not saying that April didn't notice or acknowledge that they had a better relationship before the events of, "The Power Inside Her" happened, but she didn't know where that better relationship came from. So if April doesn't know, then obviously the Donnie that she (unintentionally) "created" wouldn't know either- Therefore, there wouldn't be a reason for him to have a better relationship with Casey / there would be no reason why he wouldn't continue viewing him in a similar way to how he did during Season 2. AKA, when he first met him / when Casey first came into their lives.

There are other parts of this theory that are definitely more speculative on my part, such as Donnie not having any memories of events that April wasn't there for- So for example, if the brothers are reminiscing about the Mousers predicament from Season 1, the "fake" Donnie would be confused and not know what they're talking about because April wasn't aware of that situation / probably only heard it through word of mouth if anything- Clearly nothing like this happened in late Season 4 to early Season 5 to support that kind of thing, but there also isn't any evidence to disprove it either. I just think it would be interesting for that to be one of the biggest tells as far as everyone else having their doubts about whether or not the Donatello they see before them is actually the legitimate one-!

This theory also makes me really sad as far as Casey and Donnie goes, because it really does feel like Donnie had to sacrifice one developing friendship for another. Like sure, his dynamic with Casey is all fucked up. but at least he has a better one with April now- 💀 Lmao || There could totally be some holes in this theory, I'm not going to deny that ! But so far, I think it kind of holds up and I just thought I'd share that today- 👍✨ Lmao

(There were so many more screenshot examples that I wanted to give, but I didn't know you can only include 10 pictures in a post- 😭)

Edit: I don't know why it took me so long to notice this, and I feel so bad because I do have a habit of mixing up the placement of certain episodes sometimes-! 😭

I just realized that my points with the episodes of, "The Super Shredder" and, "Darkest Plight" in regards to April and Donnie's relationship having a drastic shift are a little invalid, since I always forget that those episodes took place before, "The Power Inside Her"- I don't know how I forget something like that, but I did, clearly,, 💀 / However, I feel like you can glean some significant differences in how those two interact during, "Requiem" and "Owari" (Which I mentioned in my reblog post for this theory alongside screenshots-) and basically Season 5 as a whole ! So my point still holds up there at least-! I don't know if you could find anything significant with April and Donnie from the episode, "Tale of TigerClaw" personally, but maybe that one can count too? 👍 Lmao

[lollipop-helo]

SO, I WAS WATCHING ROTTMNT, AND I REALIZED THAT "Hot Soup- The Game" ISN'T THE ONLY EPISODE WITH A REFERENCE TO ICE CREAM KITTY FROM THE 2012 SERIES.

ヾ⁠(°��°)/

She is also on "Breaking Purple", but as a real cat!!!!!!!!!!! ＼⁠(⁠^w^⁠)⁠／

There's this scene, right?

LOOK AT HER. JUST LOOK AT THIS LITTLE CUTE KITTY.

NO ONE CAN CONVINCE ME THIS IS NOT A REFERENCE TO ICE CREAM KITTY. NO ONE.

They only made her look like a normal cat here!!! Irl cats can't be pink unless they are dyed, so they only put pink on her ears and nose, but the white and the brown are on the right places!!! ฅ⁠^⁠•⁠ﻌ⁠•⁠^⁠ฅ

Original ICK // ROTTMNT ICK

THEY EVEN GOT HER LITTLE PAWS RIGHT ON THAT CAT. THAT IS A REFERENCE TO ICE CREAM KITTY AND NO ONE WILL CONVINCE ME OTHERWISE.

[incorrect-tmnt2012-quotes]

Renet: You think you know so much about me? Okay, who’s my favorite Spice Girl?

Mikey: Baby.

Renet: Who’s my favorite member of *NSYNC?

Mikey: Justin.

Renet: Who’s my favorite Backstreet Boy?

Mikey: Nice try. *NSYNC forever!

Renet: Dammit!

[fabuloustrash05]

I wanted to share this comment I got on my TikTok regarding 2012 RaMona

I accept this theory as canon now. April senses good romantic vibes between Raph and Mona Lisa, in a way she can feel their love for one another and how strong it is, and that’s how they became her OTP.

Added bonus, she can tell/sense when Raph has seen/been with/thought of Mona Lisa. His “vibes” or “aura” changes to something more happy and positive when with her, and for April it definitely stands out, because Raph’s “aura” is usually more grumpy, negative or gloomy.

So like imagine after the episode War for Dimension X, the Turtles returned back to the ship and April greets them, asking them how it went with the Utrom Council. As Donnie begins telling her of their adventure, April’s eyes slowly start to shift to Raph. With a single glance April gasps, pushing Donnie aside and charging over to Raph, forcefully grabbing him, getting in his face and shouting happily “YOU SAW MONA LISA!?!”

[azuraseraphistmnt]

So that would be the color theories I guess

[therealmoftmnt2012]

Leo is a fanfiction writer he writes fanfiction for Space Heroes.

[tmntphantom]

im still tryna figure out the colors and donatello's headgear but i rly think this is it yall. i finally have a design i like 😃