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I don't know if this is a safe space for me to share my opinion on S8 but I disagree with your take on WLW relationships in S8. As someone who is exclusively WLW, I've got to say that Season 8 is the worst season that I have ever played. It's not worth it. I regret every second that I have spent on it. I wish I never played it. I feel like I have wasted my time. Watching Claudia grind on Theo made me feel physically sick. If you're bi, you're automatically locked out of the WLW route and Bea dances for Claudia instead. If you're doing a WLW route, the two female LIs are merged together. There are only two female LIs and they're hidden behind a gem wall. You can't couple up with them until the final week. The male characters are forced on MC no matter how many times you reject them. Being LGBT is treated like a fun side mission. It's something you're only allowed to do behind closed doors. You can pay to make out with a girl in every episode and the other characters will keep pushing the OG guy and CA guy on you either way. If you're romancing a girl, you're made to feel like a cheater. The WLW routes in S8 are written to be a bonus thing for bi women to do once they finish the good routes. They are not written to be the main course. The S8 WLW routes  are something to play around with but not something to commit to. S5 was no fun but at least we could be in an unofficial relationship with Dana and we could choose to befriend Alfie. We could couple up with Vicky in S7. S8 is like S6 but somehow even worse. The openly homophobic and racist comments that I have seen some straight players make about Bea and Hari are only making it harder to feel accepted. What hurts the most is that MC was a bombshell and she was not coupled up with her OG LI before the Casa. They could have let us pick a female LI the moment MC walked into the Villa. There was no better way to justify a WLW main route. The way they waste Luna and Felicity is unbelievable. I wouldn't recommend S8 to anyone who isn't super into the male LIs

Hi lovely, of course!! Always happy to hear a different opinion as long as they're respectfully put, which yours absolutely is, and as long as you don't mind me disagreeing back!

[Note: Sarah's just pointed out to me that you asked for a safe space and my response doesn't really do that and just disagrees with you. She's right, and I apologise for not being clearer about the fact I was planning to do so when I hit post. But you are always welcome to share your opinion here. I can't guarantee a safe space, but I can guarantee an open mind.] Because I do genuinely believe that the WLW routes in S8 are better than they have been previously.

I'm not going to be addressing homophobic and racist comments about Bea and Hari. My advice for those? Stay the hell off Reddit. I'm not getting into the way this fandom talks about race, especially for Asian islanders. I just want to talk about the WLW routes as that was the main point of your ask.

I want to make sure I've acknowledged and responded to everything you said, so please see below.

[This got long AF. TL;DR at the end.]

Locked out of routes, and Male LIs being forced on you

This isn't new to this season, and in my opinion it's been done dramatically better than previous seasons. I've played all of them, and almost every single season holds the female LI back until the end. Marisol, Elisa, Najuma, Angie, Dana, Lulu, Bella, Chloe, Flo, Bonnie, I don't think you could couple up with a single one of them until the final recoupling. The only exceptions were S1 and S3, I think? I believe you could get with Talia slightly earlier (and have Sammi come in later as a LI for the guy who otherwise would be dumped), and AJ/Yasmin you could couple up with and make Tai and Ciaran get together. But that's only 2 seasons from 8.

(Note: I see you said you could couple up with Vicky in S7, and I'll be honest, I barely played S7 as I found the writing itself extremely lacklustre. So I'll have to take your word for it that they somehow made that work.)

I get that it's frustrating to be separated from a female LI until late game. It's a sentiment I've heard every single season since I started playing alongside the releases. But realistically, this is how the game is structured. Love Island, as a premise, is based on heterosexual relationships. Pairing off and being in heterosexual couples, etc. Same as something like 'the Bachelor'. Two female contestants could be together, sure. But that's not how the show is structured. The only real solutions have been in S1 and S3, both of which I've already mentioned. I'd love to see more MLM couples made canon, or creative ways of letting us couple with women earlier, but I don't think there's one simple solution. This particular show is aimed at het couples. As unfair as it may seem, that's how the game is structured. (Crossing my fingers for canon MLM couples. PLEASE!)

I also disagree that WLW routes are written to be a bonus thing for bi women to do once they finish the good routes. Claudia's route has been a main route since day one in the villa. The fact that you can only have a relationship with either Theo OR Claudia means they intended from the very beginning to have whichever one of that couple you choose be the slow burn route- the route that you can't get on until the very end.

To say that 'Watching Claudia grind on Theo made me physically sick'-- Congratulations and welcome to the slowburn route 😂 I feel exactly the same way when Theo REJECTS ME OUTRIGHT and says he's only interested in Claudia, or when Suresh's heartrate gets raised the most by Lulu, or when I finally couple with Jake and he tells me I should pursue Levi. Don't you think the fact that it's had such an impact on you shows how well-written she is as a female LI? Claudia is AMAZING. But she's also bisexual. She's allowed to be torn between a male and a female LI and want to explore relationships with both, and I don't think it's fair to be angry that she's playing out all her options. That just means she's a well-written bisexual character. (Side note may I remind you that you've been able to take Claudia to the hideaway, and sleep in a bed with her, whereas Theo girls were only able to KISS the dude for the first time within the last week!!!! 😭) I think the only canonical lesbian routes are Angie from S4 and A.J. from S3. But even so, they're both questioning while in-villa and only come out either towards the end or in the post-season. You can watch AJ's route on Youtube if you didn't get a chance to play. Also, you're not locked out of the WLW route if you're bi/into men. Only if you're interested in Theo specifically. This is definitely somewhere they could improve-- I wanted Theo and Claudia, but eventually went back to play a straight route for Theo. However, I DESPERATELY wanted to flirt with Bea. It would've been wonderful if we'd been able to flirt with her separately. (I think I did get this option, but I believe it may have been a glitch). An option early in the game when the female LI asks you could be:

Yes, I'm into you!

No, I'm not into you, but I might be into other women

No, I'm not into women.

The Female LIs are merging together

Welcome to Love Island the Game by Fusebox games, where all the love interests merge and the personalities don't matter. You're not alone here, and it's not NEARLY as bad as previous seasons. Watch Najuma, Bruno, and JAMES have exactly the same dialogue in S4 despite being wildly different personalities. Watch Lewie, Jamal and Ryan be completely interchangeable. This isn't exclusive to WLW routes.

The female LIs are hidden behind a gem wall.

Again, this is the same for everyone, even players on a straight route. FB are greedy.

Being LGBT is treated like a side mission

It's something you're only allowed to do behind closed doors. You can pay to make out with a girl in every episode

This is hard. I get why you feel like this, anon, I really do. But I genuinely do think that this is the devs trying to give you something. They know it's frustrating to have to wait so long to couple with a female LI, so they try and give you bonus opportunities along the way to connect with your love interest. Almost every single smut scene written in the scripts has a female alternative. Again, I'm not saying that it's perfect, but having looked at and manipulated the scripts for four seasons now, I can absolutely assure you that this has not always been the case. They ARE improving and giving you more opportunities to spend time with your female LI than you had in previous seasons.

TL;DR

I'm not saying S8 is a perfect season for WLW routes.

The part I'm disagreeing with is where you said it's the worst season.

I absolutely disagree with that. There are far worse seasons. Even the golden child Season 2 didn't let you couple up with a woman until right at the end, watching her graft and grind on everyone BUT you. We also don't even know for sure that we can't couple up with a girl until the last week. The game's still being released. (I won't be surprised if that's the case though.)

I think Claudia and Bea are EXCELLENT female love interests in comparison with what we've had previously. They're both beautiful, they have unique personalities, they have very different routes (Claudia's confused between you and Theo, Bea's your bestie to lover and she's got terrible taste in men, dear god please save her).

I understand WANTING more WLW routes, but from a development point of view, there are simply not enough opportunities in the real-life structure of LITG to have fully blown out WLW routes. They can't even get through the hetero routes without the characters merging personalities. There are other games doing this well, including fan-made games, which I'd recommend checking out. I don't have the link handy to the game pages, but check out @thatwheelchairchick, I believe she's working on an alternative game?

Anyway, I hope that clarifies my position on why I think they're worth playing. Sorry that it turned into an essay.

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NOT BENE SCHULZ AS THE FACECLAIM I’M CACKLING 😭🤣🤣🤣

As a German all I hear and see these days (ok let’s be honest, all I’ve been hearing and seeing for the last years but whatever) is him and the rest of the ✨elevator boys✨ all over social media. They’re hot, like, don’t get me wrong but everything else is meh and more than just a bit cringe idk 🥲

On another note: can’t wait to read afagsgshshd 🥵👀👀

Doing it in the shower is always risky. There’s a high chance of slipping and falling. Well. Slipping. It’s a bit late for the falling part.

Pairing: Kyle x MC

Word Count: 3,058

Rating: Explicit

Read on ao3.

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Why the lying to your OG LI so you can stay with your CA LI reminds me so much of S2 when MC says she likes Henrik so Lucas (the one everyone likes) could stay 😂? I feel so bad for the girls who decided to reveal the truth only to be stuck with the OG LI even when it was very clear you are not interested in them anymore. It makes the CA LI look as if they are supposed to be just fun and nothing else (and yes, I get the whole: "MC was single so she was forced to twist!" but it seems so many are into the CA LIs so...

You know what? Never, not once, have I viewed the stick or twist ceremony as “being forced to twist and choose someone because I’m single”. I know it’s because I basically fell in love with Kyle the second I saw him but anyway, that’s just my personal opinion. Plus, you don’t have to get close to someone in Casa. You can just stay loyal to your OG LI. Obviously you’ll be forced to twist but the second you’re back in the main villa you can basically ditch your new couple partner and get grafting on your OG LI. Which, I didn’t do that because I genuinely wanted to be with Kyle. There should’ve been another way to get to couple up with him aside from being a liar and acting like I’ve got something to hide because I’ve cheated or whatever. That’s just ridiculous and makes it look all the more suspicious and I fricking hate that.

Also, they definitely tested our patience with all that happened prior to Casa Amor. The biggest of them was our OG LI being dumped and then coming back with Bea. So idk about you but my patience was running thin and I was so ready to pursue someone else.

ANYWAY. Yes, it does remind me of s2 and being forced to vote for the person you don’t want to stay but making it seem like you want them to stay. The worst part is that later someone goes and tells the remaining boy (Lucas in my case always and forever 🥹) that I actually wanted Henrik to stay and so he chats me up and goes like, “I know you’d rather Henrik stayed but…”

At which point I wanted nothing more than to scream from the rooftops that I’ve always wanted HIM to stay. That I couldn’t give any less of a crap about Henrik (sorry to all those Henrik girlies, please don’t take this personally lmao).

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YAY YAY YAY OMGGG AFAGSHDHDJD I’M SO HAPPY 😭😍🥹🫶🏼😩😮‍💨

SUCCESS!!! 🥳💗💋 Part 2

Kyle picking MC and a smooch ☺️🥰

YAY!!!!!!!!🍾🥂💕

If anyone else significant happens, I’ll keep updating

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Me too! I thought honesty was for the best because I didn't want to be a liar like Sophie/Emel/Luna, but OG!LI is so delulu and still thinks he has a chance, despite MC admitting she wasn't faithful in Casa. Like, have some self-respect, dude 🙄!

The only time I decided not to be messy, and it backfired on me 😤!

I will try to spread the message because so many are getting angry about Sienna coupling with your CA LI despite being avoidable.

AMEN SISTER!!!!!

For real that’s the stupidest thing ever! And I totally get what you said about not wanting your MC to be like them hypocrites 😩

It also makes our whole relationship with our Casa boy seem like a filthy secret when it really isn’t but like ??? I don’t want that! Kyle doesn’t deserve that 😭

Anyway, thanks for spreading the message, you’re doing the Lord’s work babes 🩷

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On the bright side: brb writing a fic now because that is actually SUCH GOOD STUFF 😮‍💨😮‍💨

I mean them going to shower after strawberry boy dumps his stupid cream on them (+ the shower sex and the sweet things Kyle tells MC beforehand) ?!?!!! And the forbidden fruit aspect to it because MC is actually coupled up with Jin (even though she told him she’s into Kyle instead) 👀

That’s giving me so many ideas afagsgshdhdjs

Also, fuck, the shower sex was so hot I was damn near clutching at my pearls 😩😩😩

Why the fuck did Jin get first pick? And why the double fuck did he pick ME when all I’ve done is try and get him to back off?!!

I’m FUMING! And what makes it all worse is that Kyle picked Sienna to make her feel better 🤬

I need to know if this is a normal thing to happen or if it’s somehow triggered by some choices I made because istg I did NOTHING to keep Jin interested in me 😭😭😭

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You need to reset and pick you've been faithful in casa! So when the movie clip is shown, Jin will be hurt and pick Sienna again.

THANK YOU FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART

Omg I could kiss you right now 😭😭🫶🏼

You know, this one time I choose to be an honest person and it comes back to bite me in the arse. That sucks but I guess I’ve learned my lesson

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Why the fuck did Jin get first pick? And why the double fuck did he pick ME when all I’ve done is try and get him to back off?!!

I’m FUMING! And what makes it all worse is that Kyle picked Sienna to make her feel better 🤬

I need to know if this is a normal thing to happen or if it’s somehow triggered by some choices I made because istg I did NOTHING to keep Jin interested in me 😭😭😭

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So I’m an iOS user. I just opened my AppStore and there was an option to update the game. I tapped on it, thinking that, yay, I’ll get the update sooner as well afagsgshd 😍

Well, it’s been loading for a whole fucking hour now and nothing is happening. The betrayal!

Omg omg babes I just opened my love island app Tuesday 23 11:01 pm(US east coast) and the new episodes are up!

ONLY FOR SOME PEOPLE I STILLDONT

I hate EVERYTHING

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Me when I read my mutual’s fics:

Lmao I swear some of y’all’s fics are hitting harder than books from professional writers and I love that

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Happy Valentine’s Day ♥️

Full NSFW images

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A little teasing 🔥🔥🔥

Kyle likes role play and sex in public. Canon❣️🫦

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Ugh see, I’m in this situation where I’m absolutely, utterly and deeply in love with Amen but every time Set pops up on my screen I’m ready to drop to the ground and beg him on my fucking knees to make me his 🥵

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Meet The Cast

Age: 25

Hometown: Brisbane, Australia

Occupation: Model

Bio: People look at me and they definitely think I'm a goody-two-shoes, but I've got quite the wild side. I absolutely cannot resist a good flirt. All a guy has to do is drop a cheesy line and I know we're going to have fun.

Age: 24

Hometown: Newcastle, England

Occupation: Events Manager

Bio: I'm definitely a little bit of a bad boy. I've got the tattoos and piercings and the attitude to back it up. At any given time, I'm probably dating at least five people. Once, I accidentally planned two dates on the same night, managed to convince them both to stay and had a very good night if you know what I mean.

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OK but we love a man who always wants to pleasure his girl first, then make love to her.

Priorities people!

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I HAVE SO MANY OPINIONS RIGHT NOW!!!

LITG S8 | vol X | ep 28

First of all, Jin definitely HAS TO HAVE SOMETHING on his eyes because ain’t no way he thinks Sienna is pretty. Or, God forbid, hot. I mean 🥲 and she looks like a grandma in her flowery little nightgown yikes 🤣

MY MC MADE OUT WITH KYLE AND IT WAS THE HOTTEST SHIT EVER! Ok so, first of all the little turning me on with words, bit of roleplay, the whispering - istg I had goosebumps all over my body. And then he pleasures the fuck out of my MC and says this:

He’s too good at what he does. My MC is right, phew 😮‍💨

Cue 💋💍🥧

The way he wants to be the first to have his turn omgg that was the sweetest. I was hoping he didn’t want to kiss me but I was actually MELTING when he said this

HELL YES I AM, get on them knees and propose to meee 🥹🥹🥹

(Ngl I got the ick when he snogged Sienna but ig his reason was valid. Sienna being smug about it was not it tho 💀)

JIN KISSING SIENNA ✨ROBOTICALLY✨ and Sienna exaggerating again by calling it ✨so hot✨

Be so for real now, Si Si. That’s just straight up pathetic at this point gee 💀

Side note: I love how Kyle is calling us ‘hey, beautiful’ or ‘hey, gorgeous’. I think it’s so sweet 🥹

BACK TO WHAT MATTERS

Look how happy he was when I accepted his proposal

Omg I wanted to snog his face offff for this afagahshshd

Kyle and Jin pieing each other - well, that was to be expected so it’s whatever. But what really gave me the ick was when Oakley pied Kyle for no other reason than

HE’S SO THREATENED BY KYLE LMAOOOO

And then not Theo calling him out in front of everyone 😭🤣 like, I’m sorry but I always knew Oakley was too good to be true

I just was a bit confused why Emel didn’t react to this. Like at all 🤣

Onto the next one

LIAM IS A FUCKING DIMWIT! My girl Bea doesn’t deserve to be treated like this, what the actual fuck! And what’s even more disturbing: you’re seriously trying to tell me that SIENNA is a close second when ranking hottest girls??!!! 🤮

Plus, he has the nerve to ‘cram’ the fucking pie in MY face because, and I quote, “I just think you’re pretty overhyped.”

I call bullshit! Thank God Jin was decent enough to defend me and call him by what he is - rubbish.

Anyway. Thanks for letting me vent. This one episode is already more eventful than last week’s whole volume lmao 😂