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[a-friend-of-theirs]

I really like your deconstruction of the pk/pengo sitch. Very thorough and hits on a lot of important points!!! I have been following pk for an equally large timespan and pengo for only a year n half, but I have noticed that pengo does try to move blame away from himself quite often/doesn't take responsibility and it really bugs me, so i don't know if that clarifies or colors my opinion of the situation. I don't think a huge Callout with very large and hurtful accusations was necessary (cont)

(Cont) but even disregarding pengo, pk’s previous attitude towards conflict/resolution needs to change as it is completely unacceptable behavior to just get pissed and write a big angry post, even if it was in the heat of the moment and on a personal blog. ESPECIALLY since it was heat of the moment. No matter the other person, it’s stupid and shortsighted and mean. But the big reason why I still feel sympathetic for PK and not pengo is that it’s being unevenly judged, the intention I mean.

(Cont) The misplaced outrage coming from pk + co. is more on the fact that she was just venting, it really was just that, she didn’t name pengo or tag him, it was directly after and a way to get all the feelings out and she had tried to talk it through with him. And Pengo seems to have deliberately wanted to ruin PK’s life and tried his hardest to pin as much abusive behavior onto them as possible, tagging with all her tags, In a very hurtful manner, to try and slander/hurt someone deliberately.

Hi and thank you so much for posting in such a kind and understanding way even though I’ve made arguments against the person you feel sympathy for. That is a hard thing to do and I appreciate that you took the effort.

I do feel like your opinion of the situation is colored… here’s what I mean. Your reasoning seems to take this form:

PK’s mistake: writing a big, mean angry post in the heat of the moment

Pengo’s mistake: making serious allegations that could ruin PK’s life and then airing those allegations publicly

Therefore, Pengo is the more malicious party and PK deserves sympathy.

Pengo’s post was all about allegedly revealing the large number of cruel and abusive things that PK did while they were together. In our society, it is usually not considered ‘malicious’ to reveal that a person has been abusive—even if that revelation puts the person in jail! Can’t get more life-ruining than that. However, it is considered malicious to make false statements for the purpose of hurting another person’s reputation.

The fact that you did not even once acknowledge any of the abuses brought up in Pengo’s post as possible problems on PK’s part, and that you chose to depict Pengo’s ‘pinning of abusive behavior’ and attempt to spread the word in a negative light, suggests that at your core you believe that everything Pengo said is a complete lie.

So your reasoning is, essentially, circular: you believe Pengo is in the wrong because you believe Pengo is in the wrong. It boils down to nothing but unsubstantiated gut feeling. It’s absolutely fine to have gut feelings, but don’t be fooled into accepting them as any kind of ‘reason’ on their own.

Let’s examine the ‘just venting’ thing too.

PK had (has? Not sure if it’s still around) a private vent blog that is not open to the public. PK first vented about Pengo here, without using his name or tagging him, as you mentioned. Pengo had access to this blog at the time and realized that PK was talking about him. He let PK know over a private IM that he didn’t appreciate it.

Then, after that—even though PK had a private blog specifically for venting!—PK chose to make a very public second vent post in their kecrambles blog, which explicitly names Pengo (16 times, in fact) and viciously insults him in front of the general public (pretending that his prints were done with minimal effort, insinuating that his inability to sell prints was due to “a mixture of greed, naivety, and an idealized future”, claiming “he’s not really an adult, but a child”, and so on). 

I feel that ‘just venting’ does not involve very deliberately choosing to attack a person’s reputation in front of thousands of strangers. PK already had a place to ‘just vent’—and PK decided that this was not enough. 

I understand if you disagree, but to me, this action makes it seem like PK was out to ruin Pengo’s life—not the other way around.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Hearing about this is terrible, I'm so sorry it happened to you anon. 

Thank you so so much for coming forward with this, though. It takes a lot of guts to do something like this even on anonymous.

Please read this, folks.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

(x1) hey, i know that this is an anon accusation and therefore it doesn't hold much weight, but i'm sharing it anyway in hopes that other people will realise that this has been done to them as well and will come forward. #porn #bestiality #csa i knew purplekecleon at some point between 2006 and 2009, when their career relied on drawing weird bestiality fetish porn by commission. there was a time in my life when i hung out in an IRC channel that they also frequented,

Another anon story, coming right up folks. Keep your eyes peeled for me, ya?

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Pattern People

What people need to be lookin at, among other things, is how PK has treated previous people she be having a palaver with. The best indication of future behavior be past behavior.

And it always be the same. There be a long line of folks who she has done the exact same thing to, and it’s always been just as suspicious. They do somethin’ questionable and she launches a huge campaign at ‘em, parading back and forth until they’re too beat down to fight back.

She can go for hugs and kisses to not even passing the time of day to ya, and raises a palaver against anyone she thinks is a threat. And that just be cruel. She only thinks of herself in the end, and that is a very dangerous mind set.

PK, mun, I wish ya were a better person, but ya treat everyone like dog knit’s if it suits ya. Ya have to learn how to apologize and consider other people, instead of always lookin’ out for yer own hide. You’d be so much more popular and successful if you had an ounce of compassion in ye, but it’s all lie and manipulation in the end.

You’re a total dogheart, lassie. You be worse than yer mother.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Eevee be nothing more than one of PK's attack hounds these days. I've witnessed him doin' horrid things to other people. Witnessed it first hand, me did, swear on me mother's ghost. He's even harassed me directly. Marl and Eevee just feed into her little bubble that she be doin nothin wrong ever. Pity the poor sap for fallin' for such a harpy.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

If Eevee is PKs boyfriend doesn't hat mean they're in a romantic relationship or a sexual one? (Or are they JUST FRIENDS?) Didn't even pengo say that they were in a relationship with PK while PK is married to marl?

I don't really know myself, anon, but while yes, PK is married to Marl (as far as I know), there is such a thing as a polyamorous relationship, in which one or more members may see various other people.

-loud shrugging-

I don't know much about this type of relationship, so I don't think it's good for me to say anything else without doing research.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

A slight correction: Unless something has happened recently that I don't know of, Eevee is PK's boyfriend. And I believe PL has another partner who they are keeping secret.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

dewdropdaze replied to your post:Hi! Who is Eevee? I know marl be PKs husband. The fact that PK is fine with hanging around a guy who enjoys raping animals and talking lewd to VERY young people is fucked up. I have NO doubt that PK and marl are one punch of sick people who are really dangerous to others. I mean PK is married to a guy who's into bestiality and who is a pedophile. Need to say more?

Eevee is one of Pks romantic partners iirc they live together?

I think you know more about them than I do, so I'll take your word for it. 

TBH it doesn't bother me that they're all romantically involved, but I do think it's worth mentioning as it's easier for closer people to take their significant other's side without even thinking about it.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Hi! Who is Eevee? I know marl be PKs husband. The fact that PK is fine with hanging around a guy who enjoys raping animals and talking lewd to VERY young people is fucked up. I have NO doubt that PK and marl are one punch of sick people who are really dangerous to others. I mean PK is married to a guy who's into bestiality and who is a pedophile. Need to say more?

Eevee is another one of PK's close friends. From the little I've learned of them over the past few days since I first encountered them, I believe they may even be another person romantically involved with PK in a polyamorous relationship. They have vehemently defended PK and do not respect the words or opinions of others in regards to the issue, and I do not recommend making any attempt at reasoning with them.

Unless you need to collect more evidence against them, of course, because they certainly make it obvious about who's side they are on and how they feel about anyone who criticizes them.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Hi everyone. A few anons have asked for my thoughts on the situation between PurpleKecleon/Mel/PapayaKitty and PengoSolvent. If you don’t know what’s going on: PK is a very well-known artist. Pengo is a lesser-known artist and musician who used to work with and date PK. It started when PK made a post vilifying Pengo. Recently, Pengo called out PK over the post, claiming that PK was manipulative and possibly abusive, and things went downhill from there.

Context: I’ve been an enormous fan of PK for well over a decade. I’m talking back when dinosaurs roamed the earth and Oekaki ruled supreme. I’ve held them at the top of my ‘artists I’d like to emulate’ list for a very long time. Not just their art, their person and their values. So trust me, I’d like to believe in them.

I’d normally just link to someone else’s post, but 1. this situation rings close to my heart and 2. I haven’t been able to find any posts that address certain key issues. So I took the liberty to vomit out a few pages of my own input. Keep reading for discussion about power disparity and abusive behavior. (Warning: hyperlinks to rape/death threats, discussion of abuse, discussion of ableism.)

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[a-friend-of-theirs]

About the whole Pengosolvent/Purplekecleon thing:

PK apologise for the fact that Pengo was not credited for the Lemongrab print.

BUT

I remember that, some months ago, when some people realised that Pengo wasn’t credited for the collab and went to ask Purplekecleon why, PK replied by saying that it was Marl’s (their husband) fault, since he is the one that take care of the store and that they would correct that right away.

And then, this happened:

Right here, we can see PK and one of their friend making fun of those concerned people.Don’t believe me? Here’s the LINK  

Did they really care about Pengo getting credit for his work or did they just apologise to please the crowd? Saddly, the latter seems more plausible…

This kind of behavior on their part is not ok and shouldn’t be tolerated!

Purplekecleon excuses are worthless

[a-friend-of-theirs]

#rape #death #slurs #nsfw the importance of not threatening to doxx someone! (as in, reveal personal information including name and address.. especially while noting that you have family information as well when the family had nothing to do with it!)

this isn’t even the end of all the threats i’ve gotten… although these seem to be all from the same person (or the same place?) because of how quickly they were all sent at around the same time.

someone edgy is very dedicated to describing how they want to hurt me i guess

[a-friend-of-theirs]

a challenge to purplekecleon’s husband; admit what you've done

tw: animal abuse, sexual abuse, pedophilia

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[a-friend-of-theirs]

Yeah I think any lawyer is really really interested in their clients money. However, PK was never called anything particular. It was merely their own behavior that pengo pointed to. They described their behavior and have links to prove that what they say's true. They were simply telling the truth. and it's the people who have to judge how bad of a case they see it. Some are gonna shrug it off and others will think it's unacceptable. At this point I think the judge won't waste their time with it

[a-friend-of-theirs]

I'm actually wondering, if Pengo remove the post, can he still be sued for it?

I'm not entirely sure, especially since I'm skeptical about the legitimacy of the grounds for the case in the first place. I don't see it getting that far.

If someone else has any insight towards this, feel free to direct it towards me.

[a-friend-of-theirs]

Hi there, I’m not someone who is directly involved in the calling out of PK, but one reason this was brought to my attention was because apparently PK is now attempting to sue Pengo, for what I assume is going to be libel and/or malicious falsehood since they are accusing Pengo of fabricating evidence which is hurting their reputation. And suing is a very serious matter.

I don’t know PK, I don’t know if they are actually going through with a defamation lawsuit or if this is being used as a scare tactic to try and silence Pengo or both. 

My stepdad has a degree in law, and oftentimes I would ask him for questions about lawsuits because I am a very curious person and interested in court cases.  But I didn’t just want to wait around for his response about defamation lawsuits, so I did research of my own.

That said, let’s dissect a defamation lawsuit. 

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[a-friend-of-theirs]

Discussion of #abuse #gaslighting #ableism in regards to the PK thing

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