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Why is it Laila’s responsibility to stop Jeremy from making mistakes? Is Jeremy not an adult man who is fully capable of thinking for himself?
why do female characters always have to be a mother to a male character why can’t they just be?
A lot of people saying Laila needs to change the way she interacts with Jeremy have (if I had to guess) probably never had a friend before who was as destructive as Jeremy. If you keep pushing and pushing and pushing when they won’t listen all you end up with is a mile long divide where that friendship used to be. Laila IS trying to help by being there for Jeremy when he hurts himself, to pull him back and tend to him and that is already doing way more than she should honestly
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TW/ mentions of rape
I’m so sick and tired of the sex toy being brought up as a fun little thing when it was brought up the way it was and right after Jean asked if Cody was safe ??? And after he just found out cat knew he was assaulted ????? And I’m tired of ppl who are way older than these characters needing a sex scene so badly or “they’ll riot”. Why do u need a sex scene so badly from two characters who could seriously benefit from not having a sex scene at all . And if they have one it could work too but the pacing already is slow as hell and tbh honestly it would feel so out of place I think. Imagine it. Seriously. You want Jean to go from no I can’t have this to let’s start bumping purses in one book? When we’re in September only atm? But even more so again WHY do u want this sex scene so badly.
And if they have one fine whatever but tbh I’m gonna need some real convincing that it’s in place and handled well. Because I’m still not on this whole oh well he got called a whore and the group jokingly calls themselves the floozies thing 💀. Am I supposed to think it’s fun that he got raped and called a whore and now he’s reclaiming the word because I don’t . And I’m tired of the “nothing to be defensive about” nonsense too bc he wasn’t even talking about his dick he was talking about the court it was just a double entendre. Dude could be small as hell. And is this me being a nit picky killjoy cares too much little bitch? Yeah maybe but idgaf. Why are u guys so obsessed with jerejean having sex and would ppl still ship them if they never wanted to fuck? Because I’m having a hard time believing they would .
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People calling Aaron normal makes me want to throttle them. The first thing Neil introduces us to for the other characters is what he’s heard about them— most of which is wrong/taken out of context. Aaron is not more normal than his brother or other members of the team, he just behaves differently. He’s a Fox, just like the rest of them. I’ll chew your nose off
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THIS IS MY PERSONAL OPINION
I love Jean and Jeremy more than any of the foxes
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Hey, it’s ‘TSC trilogy kinda boring’ anon! I got jumped like I said I would lmao. I went on a rant and kinda didn’t get my point across cause I got lost. I KNOW it’s not supposed to be about the Foxes, guys! And I do enjoy it— I get excited about Jean and Jeremy and get angry at the antagonists and stuff just like the rest of you. It’s definitely not advertised as more Fox content. And I’m gonna continue reading it, because I enjoy the AFTG universe AND Nora’s writing. I was simply trying to say that I feel a little bad, just to myself, because I noticed that Nora’s writing had improved with the new trilogy and I was a little sad because people constantly say the first trilogy was poorly written (which I still only partially get). And that I was disappointed that I wasn’t as into Jean and Jeremy as I was into Andriel, but I AM still into them! I’m sure I’ll get used to them, new things just can’t escape the scrutiny when they have big shoes to fill. I definitely need to realize it’s not going to be the same thing and get over myself, since it’s taking my enjoyment out of the series. Sorry for the confusion! I was on a tirade and, rereading it, I do sound super whiny lol that’s my bad. You guys made me realize how I sounded. My opinion is still the same, but I realized I was phrasing it wayyyyy wrong
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Hey, OP, this is gonna be a little touchy so it’s cool if you don’t post it but I need to rant.
Specifically to the anon who wrote about Cis Male SA rep, I agree with you. Partially. Cis Male SA is brutally unrepresented and the fact that Andrew can be a symbol for that is important and amazing. Jean, too.
But people portraying Andrew as trans does not perpetuate the idea that ‘only women get SA’d’, because, get this, HE’S NOT A WOMAN. In the case that people write him as a trans man, it’s still SA rep for men. It’s disrespectful as fuck to say that it perpetuates that idea, because, while it is something that happens way too frequently, again, TRANS MEN ARE MEN.
Beyond that, people who portray him as a trans man are not trying to strip those around them of cis male rep. Technically, in the books, it isn’t even explicitly stated ‘HEY, ANDREW WAS BORN MALE, HE HAS A DICK!’ Even if he was born with a dick, that doesn’t make him inherently male. Intersex people exist. Along with this, since he can be assumed as cis in the books, there’s your cis rep. People portraying him as trans does not strip you of your representation because your rep is in the canon material.
There are 20,960 fics tagged within the AFTG fandom. Of those, 216 are tagged ‘trans Andrew Minyard’. That’s 1.03%, about the same amount of people who are able to be outwardly trans and are reported to be so in the real world. Of the remaining fics, it can be assumed a good 98% or more still include Andrew being a cis male survivor. People often misunderstand someone portraying a trans character as people saying they believe the character is canonically trans, which isn’t true. People can draw or write a character as trans without thinking they’re canonically trans, and they can switch between portraying that character as trans or not, because they’re creating fan works. Gender is a fucked up little monster and people can do whatever they want with it, as is sex.
So I agree with you, Andrew is important cis male rep and people like him are criminally underrepresented. But saying one percent of a fandom is responsible for perpetuating the idea that only AFAB people— not women, mind the fuck out of you— are SA’d, an idea that has long existed is cruel and unfair, and fuck you for putting that idea in people’s heads at a time where the world wants trans people dead.
You want more cis male representation? Congratulations, so do I— but declaring the work of other survivors and representation wrong, especially in a case where it’s so small, like this, is not the way to go. Like all bigots, there are people who don’t give a flying fuck who you are, or what your sex or gender is, they don’t want you to have any rep at all. So, here’s everyone’s favorite quote— be the change you want to see. Write fics where he’s cis. Perhaps draw from your own experience if you’re comfortable. Draw him cis. Create your own cis male rep. Create your own works. There needs to be more rep, you are correct, so work to get what you want instead of taking it out on a TINY group that’s the entire world is currently trying to eat alive. It’s not your job to educate people and this is not a ‘you get what you get and you don’t throw a fit’ situation, but if you want something in this world, there’s a very small chance people will just give it to you. You know that very well, and being a survivor does not make you immune to being a jerk at times. One last time, in case you’re confused— trans men are men and they do not equal more representation for women because THEY’RE MEN.
- Wishing you a very FUCK YOU DON’T BE A DICK, a 🏳️⚧️masc SA survivor.
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I think people can ship whoever they want to ship the characters with but i saw a lot of fanfics resurging who ship riko and neil or riko with Kevin or Jean and I get taken aback by it because riko was their abuser. It's disorienting but the narrative may change and make it better, so I slide past it because if I don't like it doesn't mean someone else can't. But what I do absolutely hate about these fanfics is the constant rape/non con tags. I think some people in this fandom are a tad bit obsessed with sexual violence, which seems unnecessary.
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I don't understand the Kevaaron ship. I just don't. Yes people like it and it's fine to fantasize about it. But to be honest after re-reading the first trilogy. Kevin and Andrew have a dynamic more than Kevin and Aaron do, and... Aaron isn't even into anyone but Kaitlyn, and it's evident of that even in the extra chapters. Plus there wasn’t even anything bad about the relationship. Yes there is not alot of page-time, other than small snippet here and there and major moments. I see people denied her existence. I mean come on Kaitlyn played a key role in Andrew and Aaron’s development for god sakes!
Kevin and Aaron are nothing more than teammates and yes they have interactions but that doesn’t mean its Canon kevaaon But its just something that feels less talked about.
Either that or I'm in the wrong side of the Fandom. Yes Fanon or AUs are okay but I'm noticing people overdue it with the shipping and the actual Canon all together.
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not too sure why but i always associate the trojans with green and it throws me off whenever it’s mentioned that their colours are actually red and gold. absolutely no clue why my brain is dead set on the trojans being green especially when reds literally my favourite colour plus the contrast between the trojans being red and gold vs the ravens being red and black is a detail i love!! i fear my brain is simply just very silly and rather empty 😔
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everyone drawing fem!neil in revealing clothes and tanks tops please justify yourselves because why would anything about neil wearing oversized clothes to hide his scares change with him being a woman
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I dislike how people hate the extra content without reading it. Yes, you don’t have to read it or take it as canon, but I’ve seen so much misinformation spread from a lot people. A lot of it stems because their friend/mutual told them the ec is awful so they tell them don’t read it.
The biggest misinformation I’ve seen is the ec portion that says andriel doesn’t say “i love you.” And some people take as the reason why they think that’s why the ec is garbage without knowing the full context of it. They stop right there even though there’s more to context to it and explains that their love is in basic phrases like “stay” and their i love yous are spoken through action.
Like if you hate it at least read it. Create your own opinion after reading it. The biggest excuse I seen is that the ec has many triggers but so does the main book series, so I get confused why some many would think the ec is worse.
I just want people to stop spreading misinformation about the EC. Like it’s okay to have your own headcanons, and not see the EC as canon, but please stop lying to people about it and let them read it and form their own opinion about it.
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I will always like the foxes as a team more than the trojans (there are just too many trojans for me to ever love them on the same level as the foxes, but I get that narratively they have to be a bigger team) but I like the Jean/Jeremy/Cat/Laila group so much more than the monsters
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It's so obvious when someone's only read tsc with the intention of getting more foxes content because they will complain about the new characters/plot in ways that don't even make sense most of the time because they haven't been paying attention to anyone but their favs from the og trilogy, and it feels so silly to read a series that's significantly longer (we're over 800 pages through and only 2 books in!) when they don't even like the central narrative. just stop reading! no one's forcing anyone to read them!
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I wish some of the stupid ass asks on this account weren’t anonymous
istg I would have half the tumblr fandom blocked by now
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At the risk of being called ageist I think it’s really fucking weird that the same ppl who go Jean’s a kid!! Will turn around and then write the weirdest smut you have ever seen about the guy .And they’re almost always in their early-mid thirties. I’m not saying you can’t enjoy YA/NA books but why are u sexualizing a nineteen year old like this. And sure he’s almost 20 but if we have to talk technicalities it doesn’t look good now does it
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In regards to the top Jean anon , I do agree that the conversation around their sex life is being beaten like a dead horse but also top Jeremy fans act like they’re so oppressed 😭 and some will shoot u at point blank range if u even suggest Jeremy bottoms 💀 there’s god knows how many fics about top Jeremy trust me they’re not starving 😭
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thea really is not that important to the plot
why do people care so much about her ?
yeah she's rough and insensitive and she says offensive stuff, yeah she spent 5 years in an abusive environment and she's strong for surviving that shit but i mean... like everyone else in those books ??
i feel like there are other side characters who are way more relevant than her who the fandom never talks about in comparison
if you care about her, in one way or another, please tell me why, im curious i want to know what makes her sooo special
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