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So Anakin wasn’t the first of them to be terrorized by visions of someone dying. 🤔

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THE CLONE WARS APPRECIATION WEEK ✰ FAVORITE CHARACTER Skywalker, a powerful Jedi you are, yet unpredictable and dangerous you can be. To both your friends and enemies. Matt Lanter as Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars: The Clone Wars (2008–2020)

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75?! What a fucking show off lmfao 💀

Also like “don’t EVER make Obi-Wan wait!” Like okay dude chill! 😭

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I think this is the only time I’ve seen Obi-Wan say Yoda was wrong even to a small extent.

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He might be crazy but he’s also a genius.

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I love that he treats R2 going missing like a Jedi that’s MIA.

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Honestly Bail is sounding more like a Jedi is supposed to in this moment than Obi-Wan.

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…and the legacy lives on.

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I was reading through your metas on Star Wars especially Obikin and they amazing! They’re refreshing because it seems to me the majority of this fandom forgets that Anakin/Vader isn’t the bad guy or the villain of SW. It’s Palpatine. And that’s literally the point according to GL at least as far as I’m aware. I know he’s has literally said flat out that Anakin/Vader isn’t the villain he’s just a pathetic broken man who, yes, does awful things but he’s still not meant to be seen as the “true” villain of Star Wars that most people see him as.

I don’t know why people either don’t understand this or if they just choose to ignore it because they don’t like Anakin and we see more of him/Vader than Palpatine/Sidious. It just baffles me how so many want to hold Anakin accountable for his actions and blame him for things but they will in the same breath ignore Palps. Make it make sense.

thank you so much!

I think a lot of it has to do with a certain subset of the audience's unwillingness to see a piece of fiction as a representation of tropes, dynamics, archetypes and fable-esque fantasy rather than direct correlation to Real Life Morality.

obviously in real life Anakin, no matter WHAT, should be imprisoned for life... murder is not good lol.

but in Star Wars, a story, it is obviously to me at least that Anakin is a representation of the ultimate MacGuffin. he is a CLASSIC tragic hero in the grecian sense - not good or ultimately liked or morally decent but destined by nature of his flaws to do something heroic.

Anakin is NOT a human - he is demi god conceived of the Force and essentially a barometer for the health of the Galaxy. He is enslaved, mistreated, taken away from his mother, not given consideration for his unique circumstance by the Jedi, coveted by an irresponsible Padme, prodded by a confused Obiwan, & groomed and manipulated by Palpatine. Anakin is used by the Senate as a war hero and given praise for killing thousands for the Republic. All of those Institutions and people, despite their intentions and lofty moral goals, failed him as essentially "a test" for the Galaxy - the Force was testing the moral health of the Galaxy by creating Anakin.

Anakin is the ULTIMATE slave - he is PREDESTINED by the Force and has no choice in his ULTIMATE destitn which is to "balance the force" and for this he suffers IMMENSELY. The Force created Anakin to defend the Republic, and when it was corrupt and failed (as Padme herself noted), used him to destroy it because Anakin became corrupted same as the Republic did.

Of course, Anakin CHOOSES how to do this (murder) which makes him flawed and villainous, but he is eventually pitted against Sidious because the Force "knew" he'd be the only Force user strong enough to survive the Dark Side for decades, and the ONLY ONE STRONG ENOUGH (guilty and good enough) TO RETURN TO THE LIGHT AFTER ALL THAT.

Anakin suffers in Vader's sarcophagus as punishment for his murderous destruction of the Order & alignment with Sidious - he could have theoretically achieved its "destruction" in another more peaceful way. He could have walked away from Sidious. But he didn't. He chose to do that. Anakin became flawed & corrupt in an image of the flawed Republic. (Obviously Obiwan represents the imperfect Order and Padme the imperfect Senate).

Anakin is a literary device - he is a demi god - he is and his actions are not supposed to represent real life people (that would be instead the flawed Padme and Obi-wan - who despite being good still fail bc of their hubris or selfishness).

Also Star Wars is not based on Western morality - and Anakin's relationship with the Force is one of dualistic origin. He is an angel and a demon, slave and master, kind and cruel, strong and weak, the physical embodiment of strength and the physical embodiment of pain... but Anakin is NEVER free.

He is the Force (light, good, "god")'s creation to be used to fight Sidious (dark, evil, "devil").

Anakin is the most tragic character in Star Wars and by definition is a tragic hero.

When Luke saves him, he sees this, and it gives real life viewers hope that regardless of our destiny-by-circumstance we can choose better.

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Anakin is Obi-Wan’s insane little “untamed genius”

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Do you see the love? 😭

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anakin's close relationship with the clones and its greater significance

Anakin has an especially close relationship with the clones, but even more importantly the clones deeply respect, stand-up for, stand by, and rep Anakin specifically.

It is mentioned numerous times that the clones have a special respect and high regard for Anakin, General Skywalker, way over and above any of the other Jedi generals (including Obi-wan). They would gladly die fighting beside him.

Of course, it is obvious that Anakin deeply respects them as autonomous beings with individual names and personalities based on his past as a slave. no, he doesn't want your number, what is your name soldier?

How many times on Tatooine was Anakin himself called a label, a derogatory slur, or a number? How many times did he have to watch his mother be spit at, derided, abused? The mother of the Chosen One, a slave helpless to their cruelty and disregard. What is your name soldier?

The clones are "mortal" mirrors of himself as the demi-god Chosen One. They have no true parents (the Force is Anakin's 'father'), they were not created to have free will (Anakin has a prophecy and destiny as much as they have inhibitor chips), they were not created to love or be loved lest it interfere with their duty (the Clones were engineered to be averse to relationships and family, just as Anakin is counseled to avoid Attachments), and lastly, they are missing parental figures which makes them eager for approval and validation.

They just get each other. What is your name, soldier?

I'm a person and my name is Anakin.

For a long time I was confused by why Anakin would agree to fight alongside the Clones at all, and wouldn't stand up for them, pointing out to the Jedi that the Republic's creation of them to serve & die with no real choice otherwise (chips) is tantamount to slavery in its own manner, but then I realized... it is because Anakin truly never leaves the servant's mindset, either.

And also because he believes, genuinely, in serving the Good like they do. They have lived lives of servitude, were born into it - so it is simply having the choice of which cause to serve that seems like beautiful freedom. And they Choose to serve the good - the Republic for the clones, the Jedi for Anakin.

When confronted by the slaver queen in TCW Anakin heartwarmingly repeats that same sentiment - he feels he is not enslaved to the Jedi because he sees them as a moral responsibility, not a condition of servitude.

It can be argued, however, that Anakin never knew true freedom as a child and became accustomed to the support system and rules of the Jedi, despite having his own ideas that went way outside the Code. Ideas he would never have an opportunity to express, by no choice of his own - unless the he left the Order. Something next to impossible as his only post-slavery home, his only family in the Galaxy. His guiding light. A difficult situation.

The Jedi attempted to do good with Anakin, but as a former slave and Chosen One demi-god, they definitely missed the mark on some of his core needs.

Regarding the clones, all Anakin knows is to love and respect his brothers, especially those he sees as very much his equals in standing in the world. He sees the Republic Army doing for clones what the Jedi Order did for him: at the same time as they are still serving, they are rising in the ranks of public esteem in a way unforseen for them (Anakin may have never escape slavery but for the Jedi, the Clones wouldn't exist without the Senate). And one day, if they serve admirably enough, they will be free to choose their owns paths (after the war for the Clones, and when he becomes a Master at last for Anakin).

Anakin can never truly think of "escape" for himself or the clones in any other way. He has literally never known any other existence. And he hasn't gotten there yet - hasn't had the time as a young man to hash out those higher concepts of freedom. This inexperience and arguably innocent mindset is manipulated by Palpatine. It is used against him to turn Anakin into the slave Vader.

It is one of the reasons the just-born Vader goes so wild with the thought of Ultimate Power - he has never had any before. The thought of being in control of destiny, his destiny, is dizzying to him and he begs Padme to join him. although of course this fever dream is short-lived.

It is left to the mind of the viewer to wonder if Anakin could have been talked down here with a better approach. The inclusion of R2D2 in this scene on Mustafar shows Anakin was still present on the volcanic planet, his last vestiges battling against the surging Vader who was baptized in the dark disorienting power of Order 66. It is why he dropped Padme to the ground when confronted -certain she still lived - "She was alive, I felt it!" It is the reason why he crawled to Obi-wan while burning with his golden hand, the remnants of Anakin were still there.

Vader is 100% a slave and totally compliant to Sidious' will - or will face certain death. His actions are evil, of course, but he is nonetheless a complete slave - mentally, physically, and psychologically.

He is used as an attack dog on select missions and otherwise kept chained up in his personal hells. He is physically immobile without his suit, yet his suit is literally designed to be a torture device. He is much like an imprisoned circus animal that is stabbed and prodded to engender its anger and defensiveness for a circus act where the lion tamer is seen as all-powerful. Smoke and Mirrors and he is a prop. A slave. A memory.

Vader is deformed and deconstructed and reconstructed for maximum discomfort and dependency. This is to ensure he cannot and will not think outside his chains and will be totally preoccupied by his suffering, engendered by his anger. Obi-wan, in these years, is in a way his only relief and outlet.

But even in OWK he cannot bear to keep Obi-wan as a prisoner. As a life-long prisoner of various varieties himself (both of outer and inner design) he cannot bear to see Obi-wan suffer as a slave to his guilt and anguish.

So what does Anakin do the first time he is ever the Master of someone's direct individual pain with no manipulations upon him? What does he do when he has total control of Obi-wan's broken heart and suffering? The Master last?

He frees him.

He frees Obi-wan, immediately.

In that moment his prime ego surfaces and takes the blame for his alter ego Vader, shoulders the responsibility for him, and lets his only distraction (Obi-wan) from this agony go free. Of course, in the next scene Vader is livid and frothing at this, telling Sidious he'll stop at nothing to find Kenobi. but Anakin, lost inside again, freed him before Sidious or Vader could stop him.

This brings me to another important point about the clones and Anakin and the Force at large.

Essentially the Republic and Separatists are fighting a proxy war with no "real" citizen casualities or troops using the droids and clones. This exactly mirrors the spiritual proxy war for the Galaxy's soul that is being enacted on a microcosmic scale through the prophesized Chosen One - Anakin Skywalker.

The Force ("God")is fighting a cosmic holy war within Anakin against Sidious ("The Devil") using the soul of one person as a representation of All.

Of course, the Force created Anakin as its Champion and thus Anakin is inherently good. The question at hand is... is Anakin(the Force) strong enough to withstand his predestined fall and return? To survive under the Evil of the Sith? Basically: is the Force ("God") stronger than Sidious ("The Devil")?

As we know, Sidious, in all his hubris, was unable to keep Anakin enslaved through Vader in the end. Anakin was resurrected - return of the Jedi.

This is another important parallel with Anakin re: the Clones. The Clones in their physical proxy war represent the same thing Anakin represents in his spiritual proxy war which he is fighting as a demi-god with a destiny.

The are literally the same.

The fact that Anakin was so friendly and respectful of the clones and that they absolutely loved him in return is proof they are both morally "good" centered. They are both representations of Good sabotaged by Evil (Sidious manipulating Anakin and corrupting the chips in the clones).

Is it no surpise that they are both broken by Sidious on the same night, at the same time, during Operation Knightfall and both march into the temple together to enact Order 66. They, both forces of good, were tools for Sidious to corrupt.

Another bit of support for this is in the comics. A clone soldier (a stormtrooper) is one of the only ppl Vader ever reveals he was Anakin Skywalker to. While the soldier is dying, Vader reveals his true prime ego and identity.

The soldier was (if I remember correctly) talking about his admiration for the Jedi general Anakin beforehand, and how much he loved serving under him.

As he lays dying, Anakin breaks through Vader with his compassion, seeking to bring comfort to the clone in his last moments - telling him his identity so that he will in some small way gain peace knowing he is still serving and dying under "Skywalker".

The clone responds he always knew that, based off Vader's fighting and leadership style, and they are both left in that moment realizing how they are both in an unwinnable situation within the Empire.

Anakin is left to ponder how these good men he so loved are still following him, still fighting, loyally, and what that means for him trapped within Vader after all these years.

Maybe he, Anakin, should keep fighting too.

like his brothers.

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Obi-Wan: *Tells Anakin about a super important top secret mission they’re assigning him to hopefully catch Grievous.* 

Anakin:

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Not Palpatine shitting on Dooku for being old. As if he himself is a spring daisy. 😭