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Okay, so this new clip basically confirms that Evan is still alive; he was just shot in the shoulder, but this also confirms to me that he is not The Disciple.
He's probably a part of the network, which would explain why Tara thought he was Peacocking. But JJ is already onto him, and given the title of the season finale, I don't think we'll get the actual reveal until then. Plus, there is that line from last week's episode: "He says it's our turn to come to him." Evan is referring to his FBI boss here, but the double meaning could be that he's referring to "The Disciple."
#criminal minds evolution#cme theory#criminal minds#jennifer jareau#elias voit#notbridgerton#criminal minds spoilers#Instagram
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This is such a fun interview.
"Garcia is, who are we kidding, ABSOLUTELY queer. We've only seen her date men, but I promise you that she is. We all know this."
EXACTLY KIRTSTEN!!!
kirsten: garcia gets to have more sex (in evolution)
but not with luke :( :( :( :( !!!!!!!!!
kirsten: [erica messer] (my nemesis) in the episode when we're walking out of the graveyard, she came up to me and dp and said i want garcia to be walking between alvez and tyler ------she said "i think its good to keep that triangle going"
ruDE RUDEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
but also like kristen LITERALLY said garcia was in love with derek????? (lowkey love this ngl)
podcast with kirsten
#its not the first time shes said this#but I love it everytime she does#kirsten vangsness#penelope garcia#criminal minds cast#notbridgerton
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#princess!#bridgerton cast#nicola coughlan#penelope featherington#penelope bridgerton#right on queue
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just so you know, your tyler theory is famous in my house. i offhandedly mentioned the tyler-as-disciple theory to my bf after you posted it and he was so intrigued, and wanted to know all about it. i had to pull up your post and read it to him. he similarly found it very compelling and we have discussed it every day since.
That's so sweet, thank you friend!!! I am rarely right about these things, but I'm having so much fun, I don't care lol.
Or at least I was having fun until I saw this still this morning.

He's in her office by himself, touching her things while seemingly everyone else is at the hospital. Tyler you are not helping yourself!
#If I'm right Penelope is going to be so crushed#ask#oh hello#criminal minds spoliers#cme#criminal minds#notbridgerton#tyler green#penelope garcia#criminal minds evolution
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Ooooh, that is a very interesting shot. Even if Tyler is not Voit's disciple, we're definitely leading up to a big confrontation between these two, and I can't wait to see it.
Could Tyler be The Disciple?
A follow-up to this post
I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.
Okay, let's get started
(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)
Suspects
Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).
So here are the remaining suspects:
Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).
2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.
3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes
Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.
Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:
"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."
"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."
Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.
That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.
"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.
"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.
"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.
Some other things of note:
Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.
As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?
And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.
And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.
So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!
A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.
You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?
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I agree with that. Ochoa is definitely the person that I think is most likely The Disciple. The writers rarely think this far ahead. The reveal last year was a character we never met, so The Disciple could easily end up being someone like Tyler's nephew or something random.
But from a storytelling perspective, I think Tyler is the more interesting choice. If it's Ochoa, we'll get the reveal and be like, "Well duh!" It doesn't really impact the team in any meaningful way. But if it's Tyler, that would have huge implications for next season, especially if next season is supposed to focus on Penelope.
I completely understand not wanting it to be true. As someone who cares about these characters, I don't want it to happen because I know it would destroy them. But as someone who loves angst and drama, give it to me pleaaaaase.
Could Tyler be The Disciple?
A follow-up to this post
I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.
Okay, let's get started
(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)
Suspects
Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).
So here are the remaining suspects:
Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).
2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.
3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes
Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.
Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:
"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."
"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."
Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.
That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.
"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.
"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.
"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.
Some other things of note:
Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.
As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?
And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.
And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.
So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!
A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.
You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?
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Do join us in bidding our dear Ton a farewell as they conclude the production of the forthcoming season! Indeed, there is much to look forward to… (X)
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True, but consider this:
He woke up the network in episode 1, so the BAU would have to keep him around. What he didn't didn't account for were the higher ups who did not believe the unsub was involved with Sicarius.
Tyler worked independently from everyone else on the Orlov investigation before he knew about Voit waking up. He got the warrant to search Orlov's home, and then he gets a hardrive to prove an undeniable pattern. He got lucky that Voit woke up, but the hardrive was his plan b. Emily does specifically recognize his knowledge of the network, not just his knowledge of Voit as a reason why she requested him to stay.
Could Tyler be The Disciple?
A follow-up to this post
I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.
Okay, let's get started
(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)
Suspects
Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).
So here are the remaining suspects:
Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).
2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.
3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes
Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.
Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:
"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."
"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."
Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.
That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.
"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.
"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.
"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.
Some other things of note:
Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.
As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?
And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.
And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.
So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!
A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.
You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?
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I have a few more red flags I want to talk about, as well as something that may disprove my theory!
At the beginning of 18x02, we see each character react to Voit waking up:
Rebecca: "Son of a Bitch" Tara: "Fuck" Penelope: *shocked face* JJ: "Are you fucking kidding?" Rossi: *shakes head* Luke: "Can you believe this shit?"
Emily doesn't get an immediate reaction to Voit being awake, but she is there when Ochoa delivers the news that Voit has Amnesia and, like everyone else, she's pissed.
We then cut to the round table, where the team (minus Tyler) is discussing Voit's condition. Each of them expresses some mix of frustration, confusion, and anger as they try and figure out the next steps. Tyler walks in letting them know that Voit's lawyer is on the run, and is then told that he's going to be staying with the BAU.
Not once does this episode focus on Tyler's feelings about Voit being awake. Isn't that kind of strange? He's the character with the most emotional investment in Voit because of their history. He has the most to lose. This should be very triggering for him, but he just sort of goes about the episode like they're just working a normal case. I chalked this up as lazy writing when I first watched the episode, but now I'm wondering if it was intentional.
Tyler is also the one who brings the team Orlov's hard drive, leading them directly to the Zookeeper (aka network unsub #2).
There is one thing that happens in 18x02 that could completely disprove my entire theory, and that's Tyler's reaction to the Zookeeper committing suicide. He seems genuinely upset here. It's definitely framed like Tyler is upset because he failed the team.
If he is The Disciple, there are only two ways that could make sense:
A) He could be faking it. The BAU isn't around, but there are a few other officers in the room.
B) That wasn't the plan. Maybe Clyde was supposed to be taken in. After all, the next two network Unsubs are arrested and taken into custody.
In 18x06, Ronald Graber holds the knife to his neck, JJ tries to appeal to him, he takes off the mask, looks at Tyler, starts laughing at JJ, and then drops the knife anyway.
Could Tyler be The Disciple?
A follow-up to this post
I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.
Okay, let's get started
(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)
Suspects
Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).
So here are the remaining suspects:
Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).
2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.
3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes
Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.
Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:
"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."
"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."
Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.
That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.
"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.
"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.
"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.
Some other things of note:
Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.
As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?
And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.
And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.
So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!
A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.
You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?
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They are sister ships to me!
#garvez should be having mirror sex too#but instead they're just getting dumped with more trauma#If you think about it Garcia's computers are the equivalent of regency candlelight#Luke and Colin's little head tilts are everything to me#polin#garvez#penelope garcia#penelope featherington#luke alvez#colin bridgerton#criminal minds#bridgerton#cme#op's edit#op's gif edit
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18x06 vs 18x07 - luke and penelope sharing a brain cell
#I can't explain it but this is very Polin and their plant puns coded#garvez#cuties#right on queue#luke alvez#penelope garcia#criminal minds#criminal minds evolution#criminal minds spoilers#cm18x06#c#cm 18x07
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I just remembered that 18x07 was filmed during/right after the presendential election. The episode itself is already quite harrowing, but I think you can sort of feel the real life circumstances bleeding into a lot of the performances. Rewatching the episode, and there's just this heavy weight to the tone that is difficult to describe.
Like between takes Kirsten was being harassed online for daring to publicly say she doesn't consort with Nazis.
#criminal minds#criminal minds cast#criminal minds evolution#cm 18x07#cme#notbridgerton#kirsten vangsness
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Luke Alvez is the best BAU man.
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Yeah, this whole theory stemmed from the unsub being good with computers. I joked to myself, "Wouldn't it be funny (and by funny I mean completely unhinged) if it was Tyler, lol?" Then my brain screeched to a halt, like
I had guessed Tyler was up to something in season 16, and I was very wrong. I am prepared to be very wrong again. But, are we really going to add a third hacker who is almost as good as Garcia? That would be a lot of computer geniuses running around on this show, lol.
Could Tyler be The Disciple?
A follow-up to this post
I'm going to preface this by saying that none of the evidence I have is concrete. A lot of it is just me trying to look at the show's narrative from a different perspective. I was also coming up with new thoughts as I was writing, so this won't be super organized (and barely proofread). I'm just having some fun, and if I'm wrong, I'm wrong! No harm done.
Okay, let's get started
(This is kind of a long one, so feel free to jump around to the points that interest you the most)
Suspects
Season 18, Episode 7 started raising several alarm bells for me. I think we can officially say that the show is building up to a reveal with the Disciple, and if we're leading to a reveal, it can't just be some random guy. We need suspects. Emily, Rossi, Penelope, Luke, Tara, and JJ are off the table. They are our protagonists and the characters we are supposed to trust. We have to instead look at our main recurring cast. Rebecca, Ochoa, and Evan. We can rule out Rebecca because she's been way more vital to Tara's personal life than the Sicarius case (despite her role as prosecutor).
So here are the remaining suspects:
Evan. He is suspicious, but also likely dead, lol. Evan joined very late into the season, and most mysteries introduce all of their suspects in Act 1 (or in this case, by episode 3). Could he be the Disciple? Yes. But he's the least interesting choice in my opinion, especially if it ends up being a "Surprise, bitch. I bet you thought you'd seen the last of me." kind of reveal (which would feel very lazy).
2. Ochoa. She is my top suspect whom we've already discussed at length. She's extremely suspicious. She did weird things with the brain scanners, she pushed religion on JJ, and she could have messed with Voit's medication. The only thing we don't have for Ochoa is a motive.
3. Tyler. One might think we should cross out Tyler's name because he's been on the show for two years and he's now a part of the BAU. But then that only leaves one major suspect and one minor suspect. That's not much of a mystery. It just makes it obvious that Ochoa is involved. There is a possibility that Ochoa and Evan could be distractions. After all, who would suspect a member of the BAU?
"When you have eliminated all which is impossible, then whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth."- Sherlock Holmes
Like Ochoa, a lot of Tyler's behavior can be perceived in two ways. He's a new agent with impostor syndrome, or he has a more nefarious plan hiding below the surface. Tyler could very well be genuine in wanting to be apart of the BAU, but we must consider that he might not be.
Let's break down Rossi's and Emily's profile of The Desciple:
"His disciple has incredible influence over the remaining members of Voit's network." We know Tyler can be manipulative and influence people. He admitted to Penelope that he used her empathy against her to help find Sicarius back in season 16. "If I told her that people would die if she didn't help, she'd give me whatever I want."
"Except, unlike Voit, he's asking for them to take actions that are contrary to their natural psychopathy." What did Tyler do after Penelope tried to cut things off with him? He used her empathy against her again. "When I first reached out to you, I had this hate in my heart. I just wanted to find who did this to my sister. And then I was gonna end it. But, I don't feel that way anymore, and the only thing that changed is that I met you."
Penelope was responsible for her own actions. She never should have slept with a witness. But Tyler said all of the right things to pull at her heartstrings. She knew what she was doing was wrong, but she did it anyway, which appeared contrary to her typical behavior.
That doesn't prove Tyler has done anything with the network, but it does tell us what he is capable of.
"Not only is this Disciple as good on computers as Garcia..." This is the clearest piece of evidence that it could be Tyler. Ochoa is very smart, and she could make for a good hacker. But Tyler is the only character (other than Voit himself) who we know has similar talents to Garcia.
"The unsub must know that we would be tracking his signal." Ochoa was not in this episode, so it's unlikely she knew. Evan could've known, but it's hard to say where he would have gotten that information from. Tyler definitely knew.
"He had to have lured [Orlov] into a false sense of security." Maybe Tyler lured the BAU into a false sense of security as well. The show has been really hammering home the "You belong here," "You've earned your spot" thing with Tyler more than we've seen with any other new member. This could just be due to Tyler's impostor syndrome. They want to reassure him. It could also be the writer's way of setting up a betrayal that the entire time will feel the impact of.
Some other things of note:
Tyler pushes Voit a lot harder in 18x07 than he did in the episode prior. He gets very forceful when Voit doesn't agree. Maybe he needs Voit to cooperate in order to set up the conversation with Deepfake Cyras later.
As @mortalscience mentioned, the show goes out of its way to tell us that Voit has groomed a killer before. Is that foreshadowing?
And as @impossiblepearl pointed out, Voit lets Tyler into his inner circle. He saw something in him. This may have only been brought up to establish that Tyler is trying to escape that darkness, but it could also be a big clue about his true nature.
And then there is the six-month time jump. None of the main cast was all that affected by the jump, which made me question why it existed in the first place. I initially thought that it would be used to cover Tyler's time away at training. Except it was actually the opposite. Tyler was training with the BAU the whole time, and when we came back, he was set to leave. So why not show us his training? Why start the season six months later? Overall, the "I'm leaving- No, I'm actually staying" in episodes one and two is needless unless it's supposed to be recontextualized later.
So, let's alter the perception. The first case we picked back up with was the first time the network had shown its face since Voit got arrested. The Network reactivated before Voit woke up from his coma. They went active the same week Tyler was set to get his new assignment. Suddenly, the Sicarious Network is back, and it looks like the BAU is going to need Tyler's expertise. What a coincidence!
A six-month time jump would give Tyler time to plan and integrate himself into the team's lives, gaining their trust, which he does successfully.
You might be wondering how Tyler could possibly be the unsub when we've seen RJ in a ton of behind-the-scenes photos with the BAU for season 19. What if the Disciple is only revealed to the audience (and possibly Voit) at the end of season 18? Maybe we are setting up a transition from one Big Bad to another?
#Ochoa is still my top suspect but I will be watching Ty Guy like hawk next week#cme#criminal minds spoilers#re#notbridgerton
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not that this would ever happen but imagine if Matt Simmons shows up again in s19 (since Daniel's show got cancelled) and he shows up not long after the disciple reveal and assuming if Tyler is the disciple, he probably didn't plan Matt's sudden return, even if Luke most likely talked about Matt to Tyler offscreen
I miss Matt so much! I would love to see him come back, even if it's just for a cameo. This would be an interesting way to bring him back into the fold for sure.
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Bridgerton Daemons
Colin Bridgerton & Calliope (Marine Otter)
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