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Are We Art Yet?
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A coalition of traditional and AI artists bridging the divide and ethically using the tools available to express our values and ideas.
Don't wanna be here? Send us removal request.
are-we-art-yet · 27 days ago
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Your code of ethics doesn't mention making it clear that your artworks are AI-generated except in the context of forgeries.
Are you okay with AI artists selling their art without making it clear the medium they made it with?
Yes.
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are-we-art-yet · 1 month ago
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There are AI data centers pumping poison into neighborhoods and taking all their water. What do you have to say about THAT in your “code of ethics”?
We think that this is an excellent demonstration as to why you should help us dismantle capitalism and champion FOSS that you can run on your home computer.
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are-we-art-yet · 1 month ago
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You want me to respect a Google search with extra steps as a legitimate artform?
And yes I know it CAN be more than that. I've experimented with custom LORA, livedrawing and controlnets. I'm still not impressed.
That's alright, you're allowed to have opinions that differ from us.
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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Okay but what about the fact that every time you generate an image you’re burning the planet…
Thank you for your concern! We do not think the energy costs of image synthesis AI is really much to be concerned about, given that it can be run locally and measured and is thus provably not really any more energy-consumptive than any other GPU heavy program like Blender, or Fortnite.
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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is the name Are We Art Yet? based on the organisation in SCP Foundation Lore known as Are We Cool Yet?
Yes :)
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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AI WARS: How Corporations Hijacked Anti-AI Backlash
Well, it was nice knowing you.
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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you didn't have to give this the kitschest and cheesiest name in the world.
Thanks for your feedback, anon!
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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genuinely a really cool blog to see as a hand-drawn artist. i've been baying for ai artists and traditional artists to coexist as a greater art community since the beginning, and have always personally been of the mindset that i would love to consent and draw data for a model. i admit, i was a hardcore anti-ai guy for much of 2023-2024; pushed that way because of billionaries and alt-right rallying around the topic. the obsession with eradicating art as a job (with no recourse for the unemployed) + the obsession with some sort of revenge fantasy against furry artists on twitter really made me reactive against the tech. however, as the year went on, the reactionary sentiments from the other side (obsessions with 'human soul', social contagions, purity of art, and other such fash nonsense that became indistinguishable from the alt-right side) pushed me towards the middle. dibbling into theory this year certainly helped.
all this to say that the AWAY collective is everything i wanted from the AI debate, and i hope you guys end up leading the charge on how this technology is developed. i'd love to live in a world where ai artists and traditional/hand-drawn artists are friends within the same community, not enemies.
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are-we-art-yet · 2 months ago
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Is AWAY using it's own program or is this just a voluntary list of guidelines for people using programs like DALL-E? How does AWAY address the environmental concerns of how the companies making those AI programs conduct themselves (energy consumption, exploiting impoverished areas for cheap electricity, destruction of the environment to rapidly build and get the components for data centers etc.)? Are members of AWAY encouraged to contact their gov representatives about IP theft by AI apps?
What is AWAY and how does it work?
AWAY does not "use its own program" in the software sense—rather, we're a diverse collective of ~1000 members that each have their own varying workflows and approaches to art. While some members do use AI as one tool among many, most of the people in the server are actually traditional artists who don't use AI at all, yet are still interested in ethical approaches to new technologies.
Our code of ethics is a set of voluntary guidelines that members agree to follow upon joining. These emphasize ethical AI approaches, (preferably open-source models that can run locally), respecting artists who oppose AI by not training styles on their art, and refusing to use AI to undercut other artists or work for corporations that similarly exploit creative labor.
Environmental Impact in Context
It's important to place environmental concerns about AI in the context of our broader extractive, industrialized society, where there are virtually no "clean" solutions:
The water usage figures for AI data centers (200-740 million liters annually) represent roughly 0.00013% of total U.S. water usage. This is a small fraction compared to industrial agriculture or manufacturing—for example, golf course irrigation alone in the U.S. consumes approximately 2.08 billion gallons of water per day, or about 7.87 trillion liters annually. This makes AI's water usage about 0.01% of just golf course irrigation.
Looking into individual usage, the average American consumes about 26.8 kg of beef annually, which takes around 1,608 megajoules (MJ) of energy to produce. Making 10 ChatGPT queries daily for an entire year (3,650 queries) consumes just 38.1 MJ—about 42 times less energy than eating beef. In fact, a single quarter-pound beef patty takes 651 times more energy to produce than a single AI query.
Overall, power usage specific to AI represents just 4% of total data center power consumption, which itself is a small fraction of global energy usage. Current annual energy usage for data centers is roughly 9-15 TWh globally—comparable to producing a relatively small number of vehicles.
The consumer environmentalism narrative around technology often ignores how imperial exploitation pushes environmental costs onto the Global South. The rare earth minerals needed for computing hardware, the cheap labor for manufacturing, and the toxic waste from electronics disposal disproportionately burden developing nations, while the benefits flow largely to wealthy countries.
While this pattern isn't unique to AI, it is fundamental to our global economic structure. The focus on individual consumer choices (like whether or not one should use AI, for art or otherwise,) distracts from the much larger systemic issues of imperialism, extractive capitalism, and global inequality that drive environmental degradation at a massive scale.
They are not going to stop building the data centers, and they weren't going to even if AI never got invented.
Creative Tools and Environmental Impact
In actuality, all creative practices have some sort of environmental impact in an industrialized society:
Digital art software (such as Photoshop, Blender, etc) generally uses 60-300 watts per hour depending on your computer's specifications. This is typically more energy than dozens, if not hundreds, of AI image generations (maybe even thousands if you are using a particularly low-quality one).
Traditional art supplies rely on similar if not worse scales of resource extraction, chemical processing, and global supply chains, all of which come with their own environmental impact.
Paint production requires roughly thirteen gallons of water to manufacture one gallon of paint.
Many oil paints contain toxic heavy metals and solvents, which have the potential to contaminate ground water.
Synthetic brushes are made from petroleum-based plastics that take centuries to decompose.
That being said, the point of this section isn't to deflect criticism of AI by criticizing other art forms. Rather, it's important to recognize that we live in a society where virtually all artistic avenues have environmental costs. Focusing exclusively on the newest technologies while ignoring the environmental costs of pre-existing tools and practices doesn't help to solve any of the issues with our current or future waste.
The largest environmental problems come not from individual creative choices, but rather from industrial-scale systems, such as:
Industrial manufacturing (responsible for roughly 22% of global emissions)
Industrial agriculture (responsible for roughly 24% of global emissions)
Transportation and logistics networks (responsible for roughly 14% of global emissions)
Making changes on an individual scale, while meaningful on a personal level, can't address systemic issues without broader policy changes and overall restructuring of global economic systems.
Intellectual Property Considerations
AWAY doesn't encourage members to contact government representatives about "IP theft" for multiple reasons:
We acknowledge that copyright law overwhelmingly serves corporate interests rather than individual creators
Creating new "learning rights" or "style rights" would further empower large corporations while harming individual artists and fan creators
Many AWAY members live outside the United States, many of which having been directly damaged by the US, and thus understand that intellectual property regimes are often tools of imperial control that benefit wealthy nations
Instead, we emphasize respect for artists who are protective of their work and style. Our guidelines explicitly prohibit imitating the style of artists who have voiced their distaste for AI, working on an opt-in model that encourages traditional artists to give and subsequently revoke permissions if they see fit. This approach is about respect, not legal enforcement. We are not a pro-copyright group.
In Conclusion
AWAY aims to cultivate thoughtful, ethical engagement with new technologies, while also holding respect for creative communities outside of itself. As a collective, we recognize that real environmental solutions require addressing concepts such as imperial exploitation, extractive capitalism, and corporate power—not just focusing on individual consumer choices, which do little to change the current state of the world we live in.
When discussing environmental impacts, it's important to keep perspective on a relative scale, and to avoid ignoring major issues in favor of smaller ones. We promote balanced discussions based in concrete fact, with the belief that they can lead to meaningful solutions, rather than misplaced outrage that ultimately serves to maintain the status quo.
If this resonates with you, please feel free to join our discord. :)
Works Cited:
USGS Water Use Data: https://www.usgs.gov/mission-areas/water-resources/science/water-use-united-states
Golf Course Superintendents Association of America water usage report: https://www.gcsaa.org/resources/research/golf-course-environmental-profile
Equinix data center water sustainability report: https://www.equinix.com/resources/infopapers/corporate-sustainability-report
Environmental Working Group's Meat Eater's Guide (beef energy calculations): https://www.ewg.org/meateatersguide/
Hugging Face AI energy consumption study: https://huggingface.co/blog/carbon-footprint
International Energy Agency report on data centers: https://www.iea.org/reports/data-centres-and-data-transmission-networks
Goldman Sachs "Generational Growth" report on AI power demand: https://www.goldmansachs.com/intelligence/pages/gs-research/generational-growth-ai-data-centers-and-the-coming-us-power-surge/report.pdf
Artists Network's guide to eco-friendly art practices: https://www.artistsnetwork.com/art-business/how-to-be-an-eco-friendly-artist/
The Earth Chronicles' analysis of art materials: https://earthchronicles.org/artists-ironically-paint-nature-with-harmful-materials/
Natural Earth Paint's environmental impact report: https://naturalearthpaint.com/pages/environmental-impact
Our World in Data's global emissions by sector: https://ourworldindata.org/emissions-by-sector
"The High Cost of High Tech" report on electronics manufacturing: https://goodelectronics.org/the-high-cost-of-high-tech/
"Unearthing the Dirty Secrets of the Clean Energy Transition" (on rare earth mineral mining): https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2023/apr/18/clean-energy-dirty-mining-indigenous-communities-climate-crisis
Electronic Frontier Foundation's position paper on AI and copyright: https://www.eff.org/wp/ai-and-copyright
Creative Commons research on enabling better sharing: https://creativecommons.org/2023/04/24/ai-and-creativity/
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are-we-art-yet · 10 months ago
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The new AWAY website is now live.
AWAY is a collective of traditional and AI artists looking to advance the field of art collaboratively, with an emphasis towards anticapitalism and ethical usage of AI tools. If this sounds like something you're interested in, feel free to visit our website linked above. Or, join the discord at the link below.
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are-we-art-yet · 1 year ago
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Doing It Wrong On Purpose: Episode 1 - The Un-Ship
Today's experiment: What happens if I prompt for something, and then negative prompt all the main keywords, plus various synonyms and related words?
The answer: Some gloriously weird stuff.
For example, let's look at a negative cat:
Positive prompt: A cat on a windowsill during a storm
Negative prompt: Cat, feline, felidae, kitty, kitten, animal, pet, windowsill, window, glass, pane, house, storm, rain, water, lightning, thunder, clouds, torrent, downpour, snow, blizzard, wind, windy
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Interesting! Let's get a little more fantasy with it and try for an anti-deer:
Positive prompt: A deer in a peaceful flowery meadow, crystals, midnight, fantasy, colorful
Negative prompt: Deer, cervidae, animal, elk, moose, stag, doe, fawn, reindeer, antelope, cervid, antlers, flowers, night, dark, trees, foliage, bloom, stars, night, tranquil, fantastic, vibrant, cool, magic, blue, moon, sky, crystal, stone, statue, topiary, floral, blossom
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Between these two experiments, including a few dozen other generations that remain unposted, one thing I can say for sure is that for living subjects, it's a great way to get the kind of anatomical wonk that older models are (in)famous for - and it makes sense why, the model is trying to make something that looks like a certain subject...but once it starts to look too much like it, well, shit, we told it NOT to do that! Break something up! Given that I love that kind of wonk, I think I've found a useful tool for myself.
One more living subject, and let's get even more abstract with our direction here:
Positive prompt: mind horse
Negative prompt: horse, equine, colt, filly, mare, stallion, bronco, pony, mind, brain, thought, essence, psyche, intelligence, consciousness, imagination, dream, soul, visualization, intellect, wit, cognizance
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Now let's try something that isn't alive. One thing I love AI for is surreal settings and landscapes - lets try one now!
Positive prompt: A magic palace garden made of crystal and gold
Negative prompt: Palace, magic, crystal, gold, fantasy, castle, estate, stronghold, temple, garden, flowers, plants, blossoms, bloom, blooms, trees, grass, stems, foliage, leaves, greenery, branches, bush, bushes, hedge, hedges, metal, luxury, stone, glass, brass, rose, polished, jewel, prism, courtyard
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I then tried to see if, learning from the animal subjects, I could make it more likely to return one of my favorite "mistakes" - making it impossible to discern the point where a water area ends and a sky area begins. I wasn't immediately successful, but I came up with some results I found pleasing regardless-
Positive prompt: Secret hideout in a cave behind a waterfall in the foggy forest on a floating sky island in fluffy clouds
Negative prompt: hideout, camp, campsite, home, abode, house, dwelling, rest, shelter, waterfall, water, cave, grotto, forest, woods, woodland, trees, fountain, cascade, pond, stream, lake, river, brook, puddle, creek, pool, beach, ocean, sea, cloud, clouds, sky, cumulus, cirrus, nimbus, fog, storm, rain, sunshower, falls
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It seems that with landscapes it's got a much clearer and more specific "idea" of what a [SUBJECT] without [SUBJECT] looks like; it's more inclined to invent very specific, very consistent unasked for related elements. With the animals, I was tweaking the weight on the positive prompt to avoid getting straightforwardly just what I had positive (and negative) prompted, but with landscapes, I just get... almost something else entirely.
So how about inanimate objects? Let's try a ship, perhaps?
Positive prompt: A huge sailing ship with brilliant prismatic crystal sails on a stormy, turbulent sea of sunset clouds
Negative prompt: ship, boat, sailboat, sailing ship, pirate ship, galleon, ketch, schooner, sloop, cutter, sail, sea, ocean, storm, wind, rain, water, waves, cloudy, clouds, fog, sunset, dusk, dawn, sunrise, twilight, evening
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...okay, I'm in love with the un-ship. It truly does manage to consistently give me results that look like, yet entirely unlike, a ship. It is everything I love about AI as a medium. More than that, it is my friend.
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At lower positive prompt weights, they only get even more beautifully chaotic.
I want to live on one of these (in an alternate universe where they're geometrically possible and structurally sound, that is).
Failing that, I will be featuring them a lot from now on.
All images generated using Simple Stable, under the Code of Ethics of Are We Art Yet?
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are-we-art-yet · 1 year ago
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made a girl-type creature
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are-we-art-yet · 1 year ago
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kenotic - i felt like a hole in the wall of the world
anime wallpaper the dark, the dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, dark, light blue, dark, in the style of colorful pixel-art, hyperspace noir, disintegrated, analog video effects, rollerwave, shot on 70mm
as generated with the above text prompt using a sister image of this as a style reference with neural network ai art program midjourney (nijijourney 6)
directed under the code of ethics of @are-we-art-yet
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are-we-art-yet · 1 year ago
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Fans' attitudes toward AI-generated works
Irina Cisternino, a PhD candidate of Stony Brooke University, is writing their research on topics related to technology, art and fandom. You can participate by filling out a survey and additionally, signing up for an interview. The survey is expected to last until at least the end of April, those, who signed up for the interview, will be contacted later. You need to be at least 18 years old to participate in either, be able to understand and speak English and identify as a fan.
After the completion of the research, it will be accessible as the dissertation of the researcher. If you have further questions, you can contact Irina Cisternino at [email protected] or Lu-Ann Kozlowsky at [email protected].
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are-we-art-yet · 1 year ago
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Welcome to the Tumblr of Are We Art Yet?, a community of individuals who are interested in exploring AI art in an ethical way without undermining traditional artists! Our goal is to stretch the boundaries of art and tap into the potential of this emerging technology, rather than creating forgeries or shitty NFTs.
Our Code of Ethics, which reflects our anti-capitalist and leftist values, can be found here, and our Discord server is here.
We encourage our members to draw inspiration from historical and public domain artists, synthesizing new styles from new combinations rather than replicating the styles of living artists. If a non-AI artist requests that we refrain from using their styles or works, we will honor their request. We will also avoid using the styles and works of artists who have publicly spoken out against AI art.
Our view is that AI art does not have to exist in opposition to more traditional forms of art, and that it has the potential to be a transformative and accessible medium. It will disrupt industries and, yes, be used for corporate greed, but it is our hope that our use of AI art can stand against these abuses and show that technology can coexist with and empower art.
Here are some additional links:
AI ISN'T AN AUTOMATIC COLLAGING MACHINE, a twitter thread by @reachartwork
The AWAY Reading List, a short but not comprehensive reading list of works that inspire and expand upon the philosophies and ethics behind this collective
Discussions and writings about AI Art, both by AWAY members and others
Artworks by AWAY members
Our bunnyshark logo, made by @reachartwork has been released into the public domain under CC0!
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