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I really liked fear her! Love and monsters wasn’t the best. But it certainly wasn’t the worst.

is this a safe space to say that neither fear her nor love and monsters are the worst episodes of doctor who or will i be crucified jesus style

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No one else has said it, so I will. In Lux, when Mr. Pye is talking about his wife and how Lux brought him back, the Doctor is so emotional. You can see it on his face that he understands what Mr. Pye is feeling when he says “I’m telling you sir, you never saw such a girl.” And the heartbreak of losing that girl. He’s 110% thinking of Rose in that moment and no one can convince me otherwise!

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What kind of fucking cocaine do they put on Rose Tyler that if you watched seasons 1 and 2 of New Who you literally never get over her, ever? Billions of seasons upon years down the line, we'll be at Doctor 23 and I'll be 56 years old sitting in my couch going "I wish they'd bring back Rose Tyler, the Doctor deserves some more time with Rose Tyler".

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Ahhhh so true

do you ever think about how in the end of time ten goes to save, either literally or metaphorically, all of his companions one last time. And then he goes to see rose and it’s just for himself. She’s not in danger, she’s actually quite happy, and he spends his last moments trying to get a glimpse of her from the shadows. He wasn’t even going to talk to her. She’s HIS salvation.

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Reblog if you think asexuality is a legitimate sexuality.

I'm trying to prove something.

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Hi! This is me officially seeking more Doctor/Rose friends. I used to be in a discord server but noticed treatment towards me changed once I expressed that I did not believe GitF had to be accepted as canon, as my ability to enjoy the ship would go away if I did. A few more arguments happened about different things. I eventually expressed my feelings about how i was treated during arguments in the server and I was kicked out for doing so, despite not being the only aggressor during the conflicts. I am honestly feeling pretty lost and lonely in regard to my place in the fandom as I was just treated as entirely disposable in favor of those who were behaving in a bullying manner towards me. I just need some more Doctor/rose fans who can be my friend right now.

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And he pulled a cracker with her. She screamed, absurdly. He won, but handed her the bigger half anyway, because he liked to see her smile, and she did.

She pulled out the party hat.

— It's pink! Mum, it should be yours!

It wasn't pink, thought the Doctor. It was rose.

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I wanted to make a shorter summary of the Eight Charley Dynamic because it really does highlight how much the Doctor has grown in his understanding of love by the time he’s with Rose. Some audio spoilers below.

The Eighth Doctor and Charley’s relationship is likely one of the Doctor’s first long term intense romantic attractions. Probably the first time he believes he’s in love. It’s a deeply unhealthy exploration of love, self-sacrifice, and enmeshment. But it’s also super interesting.

The Doctor meets Charley and saves her from a dirigible crash. Afterwards he finds out saving her has damaged the web of time. At first, the Doctor keeps Charley alive because he can’t bear to see someone so vibrant and full of life go back to her death. But over time, his motivations shift. Keeping her alive becomes his own way of playing with how much power he has. He questions his own limits, asking himself if he has the power to travel space and time, if he doesn’t also have the power to save just one person who wasn’t supposed to be saved. I think he genuinely wanted to have deeper more intense connections at this point. Considering he kept a certain amount of emotional distance from all his previous companions. He genuinely wanted romantic love. However, his “love” for Charley isn’t about her, it’s about his own desire to play the martyr, to prove he can save one life even at the cost of the universe. And to prove to himself that he’s fallen in love.

Even the TARDIS, while able to speak to him, calls him out on his warped view of what love is.

This reaches a breaking point when he becomes infected by anti time in a way that makes him extremely dangerous. It puts the universe into great danger if he exists in the universe while infected. He asks her to kill him without any real hesitation, proving that he was willing to risk the universe to save her life, but he wasn’t willing to risk it for her emotional health or happiness. She herself comes to the conclusion he can’t love her and ask her to kill him.

He ends up exiled into an anti time universe. When she follows him into exile, instead of gratitude, he lashes out cruelly and in belittling ways. His anger coming not from love, but from the fact that she disrupted his heroic fantasy. He convinces himself again that he loves her while under the duress of the anti time universe, and he says if out loud, but this just goes back to him loving the idea of love. And wanting to be in love. And having to cope with the fact that an evolution chamber has merged their bodies together.

When the Doctor and Charley separate, Charley has decided to leave him because how callous he has become with another companion’s death. She changes her mind but their last adventure results in the Doctor losing his memory of her changing her mind. He reads her very sweetly written goodbye note and has nothing but anger and indignation about it.

Whether you believe Eight was in love with Charley comes down to your definition of love. For me, love includes a deep sense of care for the other person’s emotional wellbeing as well as their physical. Eight had a very intense romantic attraction to Charley, that was possibly his longest and deepest at this point in his timeline. So he thought he was in love. But later when he meets Rose is when he learns what love is.

This all stands in contrast to his love for Rose. With Rose, the Doctor doesn’t love her because she makes him feel powerful or noble. He loves her simply for who she is. His sacrifices for her aren’t about proving his own importance but about protecting her. The foundation of their relationship is that the Doctor loves Rose for Rose, it’s not built on self sacrifice or martyrdom. Those things happen, but the genuine love for the other person comes first. Genuine love was the foundation. The relationship is not totally free of anything unhealthy, but the Doctor does genuinely love Rose for who she is and vice versa. Unlike with Charley, where love was tangled up in self-destruction and existential crises, with Rose, love is healing. It teaches him how to value people for who they are rather than what they represent, marking a fundamental shift in how he approaches relationships. This carries over to every other intense bond the Doctor forms form Rose onward. Whether you classify his companions after Rose as romantic or platonic, Rose is where he learned to have a deep intense connection that is about the other person and not about a self serving fantasy.

As Daylight by Taylor Swift puts it: “I once believed love would be burning red, but it’s golden.” Rose is his golden love, but he had to experience the painful, burning red kind first to truly understand it.

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It's real!! It's finally real and I made it?! It's not perfect and weeding those tiny letters gave me hella eye strain... But OMFG it's real!!!

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Yep!! On my birthday too!! (March 4)

Today marks 20 years since the ninth Doctor and Rose first met!

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With and without Rose

i enjoy looking at promotional photos of the Tenth Doctor in series 2 and 4 side by side because you can clearly see the changes he goes through. from joyful and optimistic to sorrowful and arrogant, hardened by all the loses he has suffered. it's a brilliant visual representation of his character arc

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Most of love and monsters is really bad but this scene makes up for it completely

Doctor Who | 2x10: Love and Monsters (aka the Doctor and Rose being idiots)

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Nine straight out of the Time War, traumatized and suicidal, watching Rose flirt with everyone around her including him, watching Rose love her mother so messily, endearingly and true, watching Rose destroy reality to try to save the father she hardly knew out of love for the absence he left behind, watching Rose love a dalek and that dalek loving her to the point of letting itself die in the sunlight, watching Rose love him, Nine, with complete trust and belief in him despite the Time War’s ashes coating his hands, Nine watching her love absolutely completely selfishly and thinking yeah I could make a religion out of this

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“Firstly, Rose is neither shallow nor stupid. She doesn’t settle for second best. She gets the person she fell in love with. And, as a bonus, he’s now able to spend the rest of his life with her, as she with him. Secondly, the very same person who experienced the heartbreak of losing Rose for the first time now experiences joy at the prospect of a lifetime in her company. In this full sense, the Doctor who lost, finally wins.” — Paul Dawson, Doctor Who and Philosophy: Bigger on the Inside

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Yes, I know, I usually try to stay out of too much negativity. It is best to focus on what we love in fandom, BUT I also think toxic characters deserve to be called out as toxic.

BIG BIG WARNING THIS WILL BE AN ANTI RIVER SONG POST IF YOU DON'T WANT TO READ THAT, JUST KEEP SCOLLING

So now that it's just us, let me begin because I have to rant.

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First of all I am sure that the Doctor doesn't love River Song one bit. I think all of the times where he makes sexual jokes with her, or anything like that he just kinda goes along with what she does. He doesn't mean it from the heart. (Both of them ;) )

I also have to say that they just have zero chemistry and their "romance" seems forced. The only reason, and I mean the ONLY reason he is sad when he knows he will see her for the last time is because he knew all along what would happen to her, just as much as we as the audience knew and he didn't wanna lose a friend. And I'm being generous when I say he saw her as a friend. She is Amy's daughter, his best friends daughter, and he feels obligated to like her. Nothing more.

She is toxic, abusive and manipulative, if you wanna have a more in depth analysis of why, @badwolfrose34 made a great post about it.

River had to literally break her own wrist to get out of the weeping angels grasp. Let's be real here for a second, he would have smashed that thing into a million pieces if it was Rose instead, or Donna. But he didn't do it for River. I'm sure that's his way of rebelling against her toxicity, manipulation and abuse.

That he healed it afterwards? His conscience telling him it's the right thing to do, nothing more.

My conclusion;

The Doctor never loved River Song, and I would even go as far as to say he never loved anyone again after Rose. At least not in a romantic way.