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ROBERT PATTINSON as MICKEY 18 MICKEY 17 (2025) dir. Bong Joon Ho

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Babe wake up. Would you still love me if i split myself into two people, one ‘evil’ and one ‘good’. But actually just one who runs from pain and one who faces it. And we thought we lived in two different realities but actually one of us just succeeded in following societal rules and one failed. And it didn’t make us any happier but we’re still jealous. So now I am simultaneously the wolf and dog and the lamb and Caine and Abel and Pollux and Castor. Because this divide simultaneously protected and smothered each other. And we hated and envied and pitied each other and refused to see that we are the same person but we are and things would be better if we just accepted this but we never will and no one else will and if anyone did see all these parts of us and loved us anyways we would push them away. And this will only ever end with both of us dying but we were never really alive anyways. Okay now what if I was a worm

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I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else mention how significant it was that Nasha, a Black women was the person who physically put herself on the line to save the baby creeper from the incinerator. I immediately caught that that Micky 17 and Nasha were significantly less hostile to the creepers than almost everyone else (Dorothy). Kenneth Marshall has been panned as an empty, goofy trump stand in, I think this is too dismissive of his character. His politics are christofascist, eugenist and white suprematist. Mickey 17 and Kai mirror Ylfa and Kenneth at the dinner, it’s essentially a double date. When we saw that Mickey had ‘won’ the dinner I thought he’d get to bring Nasha. Then Kenneth tells Kai about her suitably for carrying a white baby “naturally” and everything clicked for me. Kai saw Micky as a novelty and even fights with Nasha over access to the Mickey’s and suggests she’s being greedy by not sharing and disrespects their relationship. She doesn’t even acknowledge the autonomy of Mickey 17 and 18, she’ll take whichever. Early on in the film the ships passengers are warned not to waste energy and calories on having sex. Nasha and Mickey defy this order, regularly but does it matter if they do? Why doesn’t anyone try to stop them? Why are they allowed to live together? Nasha’s Black and Mickey is expendable, he dies and gets reprinted. They are both held in low esteem despite their respective skill and importance. I think the film says a lot politically and most of the interesting stuff has barely been touched upon.

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i like subtle nuanced themes as much as the next guy but you can't argue with the bong joon ho method of hitting you in the face with a sledgehammer

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this scene was a standout for me and unexpectedly very moving. Nasha fiercely recognised Mickey’s humanity. Something that he’d been alienated from by his role as an ‘expendable’. After every death and reprinting Mickey was met with either cold indifference or the type of curiosity afforded to a lab rat. Mickey’s deaths were played as flippant and humorous till we saw how horrific and torturous they’d been. He would die and be reprinted repeatedly but she knew he held the memories of every death. Even though there was nothing she could do to stop this death, she did what you do when someone you love is dying, she comforted him. She got right in there with him to witness it so he didn’t have to die and remember this one alone

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thinking sooo hard about Mickey being like “i pushed a button and it ruined my FUCKING LIFE”

and then at the end, 18 pushed a button to end his life and 17 pushed a button to destroy the printer and start living again

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What do yall know about real lovers

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Everyone seems to be focusing on the aspect of Nasha loving every version of Mickey, and not on the fact that each version of him - no matter how they differed - shared the same undying love for her.

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everyone has been saying nasha was the only person to not ask mickey what it was like to die, but no one is making the connection that she didn’t have to ask bc she already knew. on presumably 3 or 4 occasions, nasha held him as he died an agonizing, horrid death. she was the only person who even thought to give him comfort in those moments. she’d never ask him how it felt, she knows.

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Nasha has this chart in her room

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bong joon ho really said "here's a story about how capitalism is designed to exploit the weak however it can. we must break the machine. those at the top cannot be reasoned with and have to be stopped by force. i know you feel expendable. they don't care about you and will beat you into submission at a moment's notice. you're not expendable. our only way out is through compassion. im killing donald trump with a bomb. im showing you that someone will always love you. oh and here's robert pattinson having sex with himself as a treat."

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THAT SURE WAS A FUCKING RIDE HUH

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nasha barridge is the character of all time. she's a firefighter and a security guard and a martial artist. she loves her pathetic ass boyfriend more than anyone. dating two clones at once isn't a dealbreaker for her. she can snap a fascist's neck with her legs while holding onto a rope with her teeth. she breaks down giggling over doodles of stick figures having sex. she starts a riot in the cafeteria to defend her boyfriend from bullies. she's stayed with her boyfriend while he dies more than once. she's compassionate and wise and supportive and also jealous and hotheaded and messy. and she's in space!

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“He just wants to have a nice life and be a regular dude. He doesn't really have any higher aspirations particularly. He was fine with being tortured every day if he could just go home to Nasha.” - Robert Pattinson

Mickey 17 (2025) dir. Bong Joon-ho

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Suzanne collins wrote a trilogy where a main media propaganda strategy was to market a horrific act of violence as a love story to distract ppl and then it got adapted into a box office breaking movie and ppl made it all about the love triangle. so then since they didn’t get the point the first time Suzanne collins wrote a prequel story about the main dictator and she makes it so that you as a reader want it to be a genuine love story so badly even tho it’s so very clearly not and instead feels extremely unsettling to make her point even more meta which then gets adapted into another box office breaking film and now ppl are making romantic snowbaird tik toks. do u think she’s gonna write another book that’s somehow even more blatant or just give up and start executing ppl? hard to say but I wouldn’t blame her for the second one

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Just a reminder that we don’t know all the good things Katniss does/did for her community, because Katniss wouldn’t tell us unless it was relevant to what was going on.

In Catching fire, she doesn’t tell us that she’s being going around and bringing food to poor children in the seam until she needs to explain why she had a bag of food and why her mother wouldn’t find that odd.

In the first book, when she’s telling Peeta about the story of how she got Prims goat, she refuses to admit that this wasn’t a selfish move so she could get money out of that goat. (You could also argue that this is her refusing to be vulnerable in front of Peeta and all of Pamen though. I think it’s both, because she doesn’t even admit that she did this purely for her sister in her internal dialogue.)

And in Mockingjay, she never tells us that she’s the one that got Haymitch the goose eggs to help him heal after the games. All she says in the epilogue is that Haymitch raises geese when the liquor runs out. And we would never know otherwise if Haymitch didn’t mention that SHE was the one who got him the geese in sotr.

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how do y’all think haymitch felt when katniss came back to him all “i want wiress, beetee, and mags as allies” in catching fire? hand-picking his two and a half men(tors)!!

“of course you do” as his response now means so much more bc he’s not just exasperated he’s like “you really are me with a braid”