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Don't forget — the hallowed & twice-cursed rock the quest for which GOT her beloved brother killed, and which quest was handed out by the person commissioning the rock+dead brother's necklace combo.

why. why did thingol not think that was prohibitively poor taste.

Ways kings of elves have stopped being king (some of this is arguable, but in my opinion/analysis):

Finwë: Decided that something else was more important than acting as king (when he left Tirion), and then threw his life away fighting Melkor instead of fleeing.

Fëanor: Fëanor I don't think stopped being king before he died? He was just really bad at it the entire time. —He did stop being king of the portion of his people he abandoned in a bad situation out of spite/paranoia/whatever. And if we're going to look at it that way—

Thingol (of all the Sindar outside Doriath): I would argue he stopped being their king when he retreated behind the Girdle. Unlike Fëanor I don't think it was feasible for him to do otherwise and he did at least allow them to also retreat behind the Girdle, so I don't blame him the way I do Fëanor, but as a king it was an abandonment of responsibility.

Denethor of the Nandor: Died fighting defense in a battle he could not have avoided. No idea how effective he was as a king, but he stuck to his post to the end.

Maedhros (as king in name): Despite his having explicitly abdicated I would not call this giving up on being king. It was the best thing he could do, and he didn't give up responsibility for any of the people he was responsible for.

Fingolfin: I would argue he set aside his kingship when he rode out alone. Unlike Finwë I would not say he chose to set it aside for other priorities; I think he thought (insofar as he was thinking at all) this was the most appropriate thing he could do as king. I also think he was wrong and I expect most of his surviving subjects would agree with me.

Finrod: Decided something else was more important than being king. The narrative would agree that it was more important but as a king that's not good. Whether he threw his life away as much as Finwë did is debatable — he didn't set out to duel Sauron, they tried to sneak past and got unlucky, but the whole quest was insanely risky for questionable payoff.

Fingon: Died at his post. Whether the battle was a good idea to begin with is debatable, but its goal was a good one and he died acting as king.

Turgon (as High King of the Noldor): I don't know if anyone outside Gondolin ever thought of Turgon as High King, or if Turgon thought so himself, but if anyone did, he abandoned everyone outside Gondolin. Like Thingol I don't know that he realistically could have done anything else; unlike Thingol he did not admit any refugees, so he comes off worse there.

Orodreth: Died at his post. After several catastrophic mistakes that got his people largely killed when they might have lived at least a while longer, but he died acting as king.

Thingol: This is a funny one because Thingol never abandoned being king but I'm not sure I'd say he died at his post either considering he was murdered because of a sketchy jewelry commission. He died off-duty?

Dior: Died at his post, as did Nimloth. How culpable they were in setting up the situation that killed them is debatable, but died at their posts.

Turgon: I would argue set aside his kingship when he stayed and died rather than try to evacuate. Like Fingolfin I think he thought this was the most appropriate thing to do; as with Fingolfin I disagree; unlike Fingolfin he didn't make any grand inspirational gestures as he died so it looks even worse.

Idril (never called herself queen, but she effectively was for a while there): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading and left on a trip people didn't come back from.

Eärendil (never called himself king): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading, and ultimately this is vindicated, but he did not do any king-ing to begin with.

Elwing (did she call herself queen? I forget): This one is kind of tricky, but on balance I'd say she followed in the footsteps of Fingolfin: All is lost, time to die dramatically.

Maedhros (as king in all but name of the Fëanorian faction): In my analysis, Maedhros set aside his duties as king-in-all-but-name at some point no earlier than the end of the Nirnaeth and no later than convincing Maglor to steal the Silmarils. This is quite a long window and it's possible he went back and forth a bit. I don't know whether he consciously decided to prioritize the Oath and his family over his people or if he thought self-destructing in this way was the most fitting thing he could do, but either way: he's abandoned the responsibility he took. Unlike the rest of the setting-aside-kingship people on this list, though, who went off alone or nearly so, everyone kept following him.

Outside the First Age (and including even more never-got-called-kings), I'm not sure how strategic Celebrimbor's confrontation of Sauron was; Amdír and Oropher died at their posts after making terrible decisions which screwed their people over; Gil-galad died at his post while ensuring a victory, imagine that; Amroth decided something else was more important; not sure how to classify Elrond and Galadriel, who both put saving the world over leading their people specifically; we don't know about Thranduil, Celeborn, and Círdan.

Edit: On further reflection, Fëanor is like Thingol in that he never quit being king, but the way he got himself killed wasn't really in the line of duty either.

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Any of that would fall under failure to start kinging, not how one stops kinging!

She does arguably do a B with Eregion, though — she gets partially forced out of power, but she could stay and try to wrestle it back; instead she leaves, as did Finrod. (Unlike Finrod, she didn't have anything else pressing on her agenda; also unlike Finrod having something else pressing on her agenda was not a major contributing factor to getting pushed out.)

I think Galadriel and Celeborn crossed the mountains during the Siege, when they and some followers could certainly be spared. Why didn't they come back? You can say it was avoidance of danger/responsibility; I can also come up with a variety of better reasons. The text just doesn't say.

The text also doesn't specify that she's not in Doriath, but I just. Cannot imagine her being in Doriath during the Silmaril quest and not having reactions which should have made it into the narrative. (If Galadriel was in Doriath then Thingol's accepting the Nauglimír and sticking the Silmaril on it— Yikes.)

…I would think any responsibility for regent-ing Elwing falls on Celeborn, not Galadriel.

(In my opinion Galadriel's presence probably wouldn't have changed anything in Doriath. Thingol didn't listen. It might have changed things in Nargothrond — she might have done better than Orodreth at reacting to C&C or Túrin — but not enough to save it. Maybe save some more people, maybe not, quite probably get herself killed. Maybe they'd have managed the Havens better, maybe not, quite probably get themselves killed. Which is why my fringe theory for why she didn't come back is she got a vision from Ulmo saying not to.)

Ways kings of elves have stopped being king (some of this is arguable, but in my opinion/analysis):

Finwë: Decided that something else was more important than acting as king (when he left Tirion), and then threw his life away fighting Melkor instead of fleeing.

Fëanor: Fëanor I don't think stopped being king before he died? He was just really bad at it the entire time. —He did stop being king of the portion of his people he abandoned in a bad situation out of spite/paranoia/whatever. And if we're going to look at it that way—

Thingol (of all the Sindar outside Doriath): I would argue he stopped being their king when he retreated behind the Girdle. Unlike Fëanor I don't think it was feasible for him to do otherwise and he did at least allow them to also retreat behind the Girdle, so I don't blame him the way I do Fëanor, but as a king it was an abandonment of responsibility.

Denethor of the Nandor: Died fighting defense in a battle he could not have avoided. No idea how effective he was as a king, but he stuck to his post to the end.

Maedhros (as king in name): Despite his having explicitly abdicated I would not call this giving up on being king. It was the best thing he could do, and he didn't give up responsibility for any of the people he was responsible for.

Fingolfin: I would argue he set aside his kingship when he rode out alone. Unlike Finwë I would not say he chose to set it aside for other priorities; I think he thought (insofar as he was thinking at all) this was the most appropriate thing he could do as king. I also think he was wrong and I expect most of his surviving subjects would agree with me.

Finrod: Decided something else was more important than being king. The narrative would agree that it was more important but as a king that's not good. Whether he threw his life away as much as Finwë did is debatable — he didn't set out to duel Sauron, they tried to sneak past and got unlucky, but the whole quest was insanely risky for questionable payoff.

Fingon: Died at his post. Whether the battle was a good idea to begin with is debatable, but its goal was a good one and he died acting as king.

Turgon (as High King of the Noldor): I don't know if anyone outside Gondolin ever thought of Turgon as High King, or if Turgon thought so himself, but if anyone did, he abandoned everyone outside Gondolin. Like Thingol I don't know that he realistically could have done anything else; unlike Thingol he did not admit any refugees, so he comes off worse there.

Orodreth: Died at his post. After several catastrophic mistakes that got his people largely killed when they might have lived at least a while longer, but he died acting as king.

Thingol: This is a funny one because Thingol never abandoned being king but I'm not sure I'd say he died at his post either considering he was murdered because of a sketchy jewelry commission. He died off-duty?

Dior: Died at his post, as did Nimloth. How culpable they were in setting up the situation that killed them is debatable, but died at their posts.

Turgon: I would argue set aside his kingship when he stayed and died rather than try to evacuate. Like Fingolfin I think he thought this was the most appropriate thing to do; as with Fingolfin I disagree; unlike Fingolfin he didn't make any grand inspirational gestures as he died so it looks even worse.

Idril (never called herself queen, but she effectively was for a while there): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading and left on a trip people didn't come back from.

Eärendil (never called himself king): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading, and ultimately this is vindicated, but he did not do any king-ing to begin with.

Elwing (did she call herself queen? I forget): This one is kind of tricky, but on balance I'd say she followed in the footsteps of Fingolfin: All is lost, time to die dramatically.

Maedhros (as king in all but name of the Fëanorian faction): In my analysis, Maedhros set aside his duties as king-in-all-but-name at some point no earlier than the end of the Nirnaeth and no later than convincing Maglor to steal the Silmarils. This is quite a long window and it's possible he went back and forth a bit. I don't know whether he consciously decided to prioritize the Oath and his family over his people or if he thought self-destructing in this way was the most fitting thing he could do, but either way: he's abandoned the responsibility he took. Unlike the rest of the setting-aside-kingship people on this list, though, who went off alone or nearly so, everyone kept following him.

Outside the First Age (and including even more never-got-called-kings), I'm not sure how strategic Celebrimbor's confrontation of Sauron was; Amdír and Oropher died at their posts after making terrible decisions which screwed their people over; Gil-galad died at his post while ensuring a victory, imagine that; Amroth decided something else was more important; not sure how to classify Elrond and Galadriel, who both put saving the world over leading their people specifically; we don't know about Thranduil, Celeborn, and Círdan.

Edit: On further reflection, Fëanor is like Thingol in that he never quit being king, but the way he got himself killed wasn't really in the line of duty either.

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No no see:

May: Describes possibility, permission, ability

Per: By means of, according to

Haps: Chance, fortune

Therefore

Maybe = may+be, this possibly is

Perchance, perhaps = originally by chance or according to chance; now read as it could happen

Mayhaps: possibly this chances to happen

Therefore "maychance" could indeed fulfill a similar role — in fact "may chance upon" or "may chance to [action]" are somewhat archaic constructions which say something could be or could happen.

However, "perbe" would be "by means of being" — it's not describing a possibility, it's describing a truism!

the existence of "maybe", "perhaps", "perchance", and "mayhaps" suggests there should also be "maychance" and "perbe"

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A: Died leading their people: Denethor of the Nandor, Fingon, Orodreth, Dior, Nimloth, Amdír, Oropher, Gil-galad, possibly Celebrimbor

B: Decided something else was more important than staying to ensure their people's welfare and stepped down, handing off their responsibilities to someone else: Finwë, Finrod, Idril, Amroth, sort of Eärendil

A/B variation: In the course of leading their people and also saving the world, sustained damage that meant they could no longer continue in their current roles, so stepped down: Elrond, Galadriel

C: During or in the wake of a catastrophic defeat, decided all was lost and they would go out with a dramatic gesture rather than try to pick up the pieces: Fingolfin, Turgon, Elwing, possibly Celebrimbor

B/C variation: Decided something else was more important than maintaining previous quality of leadership, but did not attempt to step down until much later, when he took off for a dramatic gesture and then died with another dramatic gesture: Maedhros

D: Never stopped being king, but circumstances of death really don't count as 'leading their people': Fëanor, Thingol

Ways kings of elves have stopped being king (some of this is arguable, but in my opinion/analysis):

Finwë: Decided that something else was more important than acting as king (when he left Tirion), and then threw his life away fighting Melkor instead of fleeing.

Fëanor: Fëanor I don't think stopped being king before he died? He was just really bad at it the entire time. —He did stop being king of the portion of his people he abandoned in a bad situation out of spite/paranoia/whatever. And if we're going to look at it that way—

Thingol (of all the Sindar outside Doriath): I would argue he stopped being their king when he retreated behind the Girdle. Unlike Fëanor I don't think it was feasible for him to do otherwise and he did at least allow them to also retreat behind the Girdle, so I don't blame him the way I do Fëanor, but as a king it was an abandonment of responsibility.

Denethor of the Nandor: Died fighting defense in a battle he could not have avoided. No idea how effective he was as a king, but he stuck to his post to the end.

Maedhros (as king in name): Despite his having explicitly abdicated I would not call this giving up on being king. It was the best thing he could do, and he didn't give up responsibility for any of the people he was responsible for.

Fingolfin: I would argue he set aside his kingship when he rode out alone. Unlike Finwë I would not say he chose to set it aside for other priorities; I think he thought (insofar as he was thinking at all) this was the most appropriate thing he could do as king. I also think he was wrong and I expect most of his surviving subjects would agree with me.

Finrod: Decided something else was more important than being king. The narrative would agree that it was more important but as a king that's not good. Whether he threw his life away as much as Finwë did is debatable — he didn't set out to duel Sauron, they tried to sneak past and got unlucky, but the whole quest was insanely risky for questionable payoff.

Fingon: Died at his post. Whether the battle was a good idea to begin with is debatable, but its goal was a good one and he died acting as king.

Turgon (as High King of the Noldor): I don't know if anyone outside Gondolin ever thought of Turgon as High King, or if Turgon thought so himself, but if anyone did, he abandoned everyone outside Gondolin. Like Thingol I don't know that he realistically could have done anything else; unlike Thingol he did not admit any refugees, so he comes off worse there.

Orodreth: Died at his post. After several catastrophic mistakes that got his people largely killed when they might have lived at least a while longer, but he died acting as king.

Thingol: This is a funny one because Thingol never abandoned being king but I'm not sure I'd say he died at his post either considering he was murdered because of a sketchy jewelry commission. He died off-duty?

Dior: Died at his post, as did Nimloth. How culpable they were in setting up the situation that killed them is debatable, but died at their posts.

Turgon: I would argue set aside his kingship when he stayed and died rather than try to evacuate. Like Fingolfin I think he thought this was the most appropriate thing to do; as with Fingolfin I disagree; unlike Fingolfin he didn't make any grand inspirational gestures as he died so it looks even worse.

Idril (never called herself queen, but she effectively was for a while there): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading and left on a trip people didn't come back from.

Eärendil (never called himself king): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading, and ultimately this is vindicated, but he did not do any king-ing to begin with.

Elwing (did she call herself queen? I forget): This one is kind of tricky, but on balance I'd say she followed in the footsteps of Fingolfin: All is lost, time to die dramatically.

Maedhros (as king in all but name of the Fëanorian faction): In my analysis, Maedhros set aside his duties as king-in-all-but-name at some point no earlier than the end of the Nirnaeth and no later than convincing Maglor to steal the Silmarils. This is quite a long window and it's possible he went back and forth a bit. I don't know whether he consciously decided to prioritize the Oath and his family over his people or if he thought self-destructing in this way was the most fitting thing he could do, but either way: he's abandoned the responsibility he took. Unlike the rest of the setting-aside-kingship people on this list, though, who went off alone or nearly so, everyone kept following him.

Outside the First Age (and including even more never-got-called-kings), I'm not sure how strategic Celebrimbor's confrontation of Sauron was; Amdír and Oropher died at their posts after making terrible decisions which screwed their people over; Gil-galad died at his post while ensuring a victory, imagine that; Amroth decided something else was more important; not sure how to classify Elrond and Galadriel, who both put saving the world over leading their people specifically; we don't know about Thranduil, Celeborn, and Círdan.

Edit: On further reflection, Fëanor is like Thingol in that he never quit being king, but the way he got himself killed wasn't really in the line of duty either.

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Question for people who watched The Untamed and also, like, speak subtext/body language/shipping: In your opinion, did Wen Qing ever return Jiang Cheng's interest?

(Because I've seen people saying yes and people saying no and I don't see it but I don't see these things.)

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Ways kings of elves have stopped being king (some of this is arguable, but in my opinion/analysis):

Finwë: Decided that something else was more important than acting as king (when he left Tirion), and then threw his life away fighting Melkor instead of fleeing.

Fëanor: Fëanor I don't think stopped being king before he died? He was just really bad at it the entire time. —He did stop being king of the portion of his people he abandoned in a bad situation out of spite/paranoia/whatever. And if we're going to look at it that way—

Thingol (of all the Sindar outside Doriath): I would argue he stopped being their king when he retreated behind the Girdle. Unlike Fëanor I don't think it was feasible for him to do otherwise and he did at least allow them to also retreat behind the Girdle, so I don't blame him the way I do Fëanor, but as a king it was an abandonment of responsibility.

Denethor of the Nandor: Died fighting defense in a battle he could not have avoided. No idea how effective he was as a king, but he stuck to his post to the end.

Maedhros (as king in name): Despite his having explicitly abdicated I would not call this giving up on being king. It was the best thing he could do, and he didn't give up responsibility for any of the people he was responsible for.

Fingolfin: I would argue he set aside his kingship when he rode out alone. Unlike Finwë I would not say he chose to set it aside for other priorities; I think he thought (insofar as he was thinking at all) this was the most appropriate thing he could do as king. I also think he was wrong and I expect most of his surviving subjects would agree with me.

Finrod: Decided something else was more important than being king. The narrative would agree that it was more important but as a king that's not good. Whether he threw his life away as much as Finwë did is debatable — he didn't set out to duel Sauron, they tried to sneak past and got unlucky, but the whole quest was insanely risky for questionable payoff.

Fingon: Died at his post. Whether the battle was a good idea to begin with is debatable, but its goal was a good one and he died acting as king.

Turgon (as High King of the Noldor): I don't know if anyone outside Gondolin ever thought of Turgon as High King, or if Turgon thought so himself, but if anyone did, he abandoned everyone outside Gondolin. Like Thingol I don't know that he realistically could have done anything else; unlike Thingol he did not admit any refugees, so he comes off worse there.

Orodreth: Died at his post. After several catastrophic mistakes that got his people largely killed when they might have lived at least a while longer, but he died acting as king.

Thingol: This is a funny one because Thingol never abandoned being king but I'm not sure I'd say he died at his post either considering he was murdered because of a sketchy jewelry commission. He died off-duty?

Dior: Died at his post, as did Nimloth. How culpable they were in setting up the situation that killed them is debatable, but died at their posts.

Turgon: I would argue set aside his kingship when he stayed and died rather than try to evacuate. Like Fingolfin I think he thought this was the most appropriate thing to do; as with Fingolfin I disagree; unlike Fingolfin he didn't make any grand inspirational gestures as he died so it looks even worse.

Idril (never called herself queen, but she effectively was for a while there): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading and left on a trip people didn't come back from.

Eärendil (never called himself king): Decided something else was more important than staying and leading, and ultimately this is vindicated, but he did not do any king-ing to begin with.

Elwing (did she call herself queen? I forget): This one is kind of tricky, but on balance I'd say she followed in the footsteps of Fingolfin: All is lost, time to die dramatically.

Maedhros (as king in all but name of the Fëanorian faction): In my analysis, Maedhros set aside his duties as king-in-all-but-name at some point no earlier than the end of the Nirnaeth and no later than convincing Maglor to steal the Silmarils. This is quite a long window and it's possible he went back and forth a bit. I don't know whether he consciously decided to prioritize the Oath and his family over his people or if he thought self-destructing in this way was the most fitting thing he could do, but either way: he's abandoned the responsibility he took. Unlike the rest of the setting-aside-kingship people on this list, though, who went off alone or nearly so, everyone kept following him.

Outside the First Age (and including even more never-got-called-kings), I'm not sure how strategic Celebrimbor's confrontation of Sauron was; Amdír and Oropher died at their posts after making terrible decisions which screwed their people over; Gil-galad died at his post while ensuring a victory, imagine that; Amroth decided something else was more important; not sure how to classify Elrond and Galadriel, who both put saving the world over leading their people specifically; we don't know about Thranduil, Celeborn, and Círdan.

Edit: On further reflection, Fëanor is like Thingol in that he never quit being king, but the way he got himself killed wasn't really in the line of duty either.

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So on the one hand I agree that Fingon as High King was significantly less effective than Fingolfin, and that Maedhros was at least effectively co-ruling, and Fingon made a better hero than king. (And he certainly failed to stick to the 5th Battle plan, though I wouldn't hold the lack of information about the Hithlum battles as evidence of leadership shortcomings.)

On the other hand—

It's easy to point to places where Fingolfin might have done a better job. Fingolfin might have refrained from an emotional decision during the battle. Fingolfin might have wrangled Orodreth back to the table despite all his grief and rage. Hell, the threat of Fingolfin's potential intervention might have kept Celegorm and Curufin from fucking things up so spectacularly in Nargothrond to begin with.

But we're never going to know for sure, because Fingolfin, filled with grief and rage, made an emotional decision and rode off to a battle he couldn't possibly win. He looked at the board and realized it was unwinnable, and he went off to die and left Fingon holding the bag.

And Fingon tried. He wasn't enough, but he tried, and unlike Fingolfin (and Maedhros for that matter, and actually also Finrod, and Turgon somewhat more passively) he never walked away or set aside his kingship; he kept trying until he died.

And that's a lot more than nothing.

I’m not sure if this is a controversial take or not, but I don’t think Fingon was a particularly good or capable king. The Silmarillion almost seems to damn him with faint praise, his bravery and selflessness are always singled out. But nothing about him seems to suggest he’s a great leader.

All of his best and most heroic actions are either individual or directly leading small numbers of troops, the rescue of Maedhros, routing Glaurung with his horse archers. Not much is said of his leadership during the battle in Hithlum, between the fourth and fifth battles.

I think it’s quite notable that his lands in Dor-lómin are just handed over to Hador. It suggests to me that Fingon either had very little following there or that he wasn’t doing a good job of ruling it and even Fingolfin saw this. After Fingolfin’s death he’s the only viable Nolofinwean heir, Turgon and Aredhel are missing, Argon is dead.

I also think it’s notable that everyone calls the alliance the Union of Maedhros, and Fingon is unable to leverage Orodreth and Nargothrond to back it. Maedhros is the power behind Fingon’s throne, and everyone knows it. Maedhros is the politician and the military strategist. Fingon has little skill or little interest in these I think. I also like the idea that despite the love between them, Maedhros is manipulating Fingon at least a bit. Maybe unintentionally, but Maedhros is a Machiavellian at heart, a determined and capable pragmatist. He will trample the hearts of those he loves to get what he wants.

I also think it’s notable that Fingon charges in after Gwindor while Turgon hangs back. Fingon has let the tail wag the dog, and been drawn into breaking his strategy by one of his subordinates. He’s passionate and emotional, Húrin has to restrain him from charging even before this! Turgon doesn’t get drawn in even when Fingon does, and I’m pretty sure that Fingolfin and Maedhros would not have done this either. That’s not to say Gwindor should have been abandoned to die, but providing some force to relieve them and cover their retreat when they inevitably get bogged down and have to pull back (like Turgon did for Fingon) is very different to committing the whole army to a gamble made with no prior thought.

I like Fingon! He has many good qualities, and up until the 5th battle was a major factor in the success of the Noldor. He’s brave and dashing, selfless, a good cavalry commander. He rescued Maedhros and stopped a civil war! He routed Glaurung! But I do not think he was ever a good king.

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Another "Guess that Artist" game in Haunting Heroes discord server. This time drawing fanarts for fics with less than 10k hits on ao3.

I chose amazing IRIS Log #1548 by @deadchannelradio!

Love this fic. "As buddies" got me. Hilarious and absolutely worth reading and then rereading twice. Or trice.

@arzuera thanks or hosting the game! @serxeri thanks for tormenting me! i won tho.

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ranking the best things I have heard surgeons say mid-surgery:

1. "Five second rule!" while scrubbed, after dropping a sterile scalpel on the floor (no they did NOT pick it up again but I swear everyone's buttholes puckered)

2. (spoken during the closing of a particularly long and difficult case) "Nurse - my tunes." :heavy metal starts blasting:

3. Gently to a fretful patient, pre-anaesthesia: "It's going to be okay. I promise, I've dealt with worse." As soon as the patient is unconscious: "This is literally the worst thing I've ever seen."

4. [okay this one was a med student] "Wowwww, that's so gross!!" Reg: "Please remember that [patient] is awake for this procedure." Student to patient: "Oh my god. I am so sorry, that was really unprofessional - " Patient, cheerfully, also engrossed with what's happening inside them on the screen: "Nah - it's, like, super gross, right?"

5. [another procedure where the patient couldn't be put under GA] Patient: *starts singing country roads midway through the procedure* Surgeon: *shrugs and joins in with surprisingly good harmony*

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ok so i think that my favourite fantasy subgenre is The Inherent Tragedy Of Being Born Into Royalty. which mostly means that i like to read about gay princes but with some nuance

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My initial befuddled reaction was wondering if it was saying she stole a child from the Kids' Entrance just there.

Other possible interpretations:

She gave birth there.

Her culture does not consider children truly alive/part of the family until they have been ritually carried through the Kids' Entrance into Fenway Park.

BRB gonna wear my shirt that announces I got successfully railed in the street just outside Fenway Park

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(unforsaken thoughts)

Hang on where's the Anor-stone?

In Glorfindel's pocket?

In Asfaloth's saddlebags, on Asfaloth?

In Glorfindel's baggage or Asfaloth's saddlebags set aside somewhere before they went into battle but fairly close at hand?

All the way back at camp with the wagons?

I am not sure which makes most sense and it doesn't even matter except now I have Elladan and Elrohir realizing they need to call her while Glorfindel is still attempting to deal with All That so I need to know where they need to go to get it.

—Arwen probably watched a good bit of the fight using just the Orthanc-stone. —Of one or both of the fights (vs. the Warden and vs. the dragons). If splitting her attention would be challenging which one would she watch, the more important one or the one with her brothers in it? Maybe she kept channel-flipping back and forth and missed all the climactic moments.

—Actually if she's presently watching the ghosts and Geese could they even reach her with the Anor-stone.

—Is it uncomfortable to look at all those unquiet dead?

[ceescedasticity]

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[ceescedasticity]

(Sound on.) We’re all doomed.