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[chupitulpa]

yo i wanted to make a waifu tulpa so i did some forcing for that. i realized yesterday that that's some dumb incel shit, but i don't want to give up on tulpamancy entirely, because it sounds cool as hell. I'm wondering what would happen if i did a complete 180 and tried to make a masculine chad homie tulpa? would it end up being some sort of femboy horror because of my previous forcing? how should i go about doing said 180?

From what you’ve written, it sounds like you’re deciding this more based on what would look cool to others than based on what you truly want. Tulpamancy is one of the most individual and personal things there is, and can only truly be decided based on what you (and later, your tulpa) want.

It’s also very possible for tulpas to change their form by themselves or with your help, if they aren’t happy with how they look. You can imagine yourself in a body that looks different from your physical body, right? Changing forms works about like that for tulpas. The only catch is if you impose (seeing them in real life), which usually needs more visualization work to memorize the form really well for it to work properly.

Making a "waifu tulpa” is generally not a good idea -- that might not be what she wants to be, and now she’s more or less stuck there being a disappointment to her host, and can’t pack up and leave like a physical person. The same sort of applies to “masculine chad homie tulpa”, less so because drama over love is more intense than normal drama, but you’re still putting an expectation on what his personality should be. It’s hard to make a tulpa without putting in any base personality though, so most people do that but then accept if the tulpa turns out different or decides to change how they look or act.

Tulpa relationships aren’t really constrained by the types of relationship you can have with another physical person either. I’d also like to point out that it’s very possible for a guy to be friends with a woman who likes a lot of the same things he likes, but they just aren’t interested in each other romantically.

[chupitulpa]

Talking about tulpas

Anonymous asked:

You asked me about the what after. I’m full of questions on this myself, being such an useless person and lacking any imagination don’t help. I could give you very generic answers only but that’s ridiculous (don’t worry be happy?) I’ve always been so convinced that life is such a bad thing that it’s hard for me to think differently anymore. Besides having a damn rest from human troubles, all I need is to make sure I’m never tempted to go back. My memories should suffice for this but who knows. I’ll certainly need someone else to live with, or things could even get worse. It was never in my mind to make more tulpas but maybe the time has come. What I hope is to have time to figure things out. It feels like a rush right now because safety should go first. But once achieved, what am I to do with my life? I’m so worried on achieving the switch right now that everything else seems unimportant, but this is very likely not the case.

Yes, keeping contact with the new fronter is important, we should help each other. However, I want to stay switched out forever. I don’t want to ever need to remind what this is like.

It certainly is frustrating not knowing what to do with your life. I’m trying my best to type things here and make some sense, but I feel as if I’m just typing for typing, and not actually saying anything. It feels so frustrating when your mind is blank.

I’m just trying to focus on how stuff works, you know, brain OS, tulpamancy, to try to find some sense in all this and come up with ways out of here. I’m quickly becoming hopeless again… sigh

I’ve been thinking of using brain OS for the switch, but even giving it representation with form and name, I’m finding it hard to “connect” to it, to establish direct communication. It gets so discouraging when such shortcuts don’t work.

Something else also came to my mind… A much more desperate and seemingly risky approach, it’s ridiculously delusional, but we’re not going to make it in time anyway.

I have accepted that we don’t have time and this is the end. You know the only thing that makes me sad? I was such an irresponsible fuck for making a tulpa, because now he has to go down the same path I am.

My reply:

It makes sense to focus on accomplishing switching first before you worry about what all you're going to do after. Planning based on what you think something you've never experienced will be like, almost always leads to disappointment or changing plans. Similarly I don't think you should put yourself through so much mental trickery to try to ensure you won't want to switch back. If you want to or if the new fronter needs a short break, go for it. If you still hate it, and I'm guessing you probably will, you can switch back.

Switching and staying switched is something you need to work together closely on. So yeah, teaching him the ins and outs of using a body etc. It may come completely naturally to him, or it may take practice.

Tulpas often have different attitudes about things so he may not feel the same way about it that you do. Have you talked this over with him yet?

I've heard about as many methods for switching as people who can switch. Try what's most intuitive to you, and stick with it for a good while. If you get a small effect that isn't a switch but is in the right direction, stick with it. Same as building a muscle or learning a skill, you get better at it over time.

[chupitulpa]

It's me again, permaswitch guy.

TW: depression, suicide

The same anon from the last post asked:

Hey, thanks for your reply and for uploading it so fast. I come here to answer your reply and add a little something after.

First of all thank you for your acceptance and kindness, as a tulpamancer but also as a depressed person. Come to think of it it is ridiculous how long we took to reach this point, over 6 times longer than most, but then it’s logic too because of how randomly I forced over time. To lazy or extremely lazy hosts, there is hope. I don’t encourage laziness on anyone of course, but you can still achieve progress if you give it enough time. This may sound counterproductive, but trying so badly can cause a lot of stress and doubts, while giving your brain time to accomodate to a new mindset might be helpful. Ideally hosts should find a balance between forcing and letting the mindset in.

Next let me talk about your proposed alternative solutions. I find it strange that you encourage me to step further into my comfort zone. It’s probably because I haven’t told you anything, but this is already what I’m doing as much as I can and I keep being told this is only making things worse because I have to step out of it to make changes and go anywhere in my life. However in contrast, you think more like me. I’m so much going into my comfort zone that I’m avoiding talking to anyone or leaving home ever. May expand on it later. About groups to fit in: I don’t work well on 1-to-1, leave alone on groups. That’s why I prefer being away of tulpa Discord servers. I always go unnoticed and/or misunderstood. Looking for friends or relationship outside of our system is something I’ve finally given up on, after continuous failures. May expand on it later. Lastly I’ve been to therapists for almost all my life and while this sounds like nonsense, they and medications have never proven to help me personally. I find a simple talk with my tulpa to be much better than years of medication and therapists.

Before I go with the last issue I’d like to say that unlike many would think I have morals too, so yeah, it’s probably a better idea for us to switch than for me to create another tulpa yet for the sake of switching.

Now, I’ve had this issue going on for my entire life and specially since 2020. This is not strictly related to tulpamancy but I think many tulpas will be able to relate to this, unlike most hosts. I, however, am host, and am dealing with this.

Many people like to think of themselves as something else than humans or even feel as if they were also something else. Most notably the furry community, which I’ve been interacting with for years, is full of people who besides humans would like to be a fursona, or even feel more as if they were their fursona than a human. I, however, take this to the next level. I have been both unvoluntarily and voluntarily distancing myself from the concept “human”. It is not something positive to me being one. As such I’ve been suffering of “species dysphoria”, or am trans-species. I bet many many tulpas who have fronted have had this issue if they weren’t made after humans to begin with. However I cannot say the same for hosts. Indeed I’m the only host I know so far who thinks they aren’t human and would rather be some yellow dragon drawn by a furry artist. This issue is easily fixed with a switch. Not saying I’m switching because of this, but it is something nice knowing that I can stop being trapped in a human body and just be myself. Believe me, species dysphoria can get to the same points or even worse than gender dysphoria. Fortunately I never had the latter. So maybe now you understand why I am isolating myself too.

Looking back at my old asks here now I know much more about tulpas than I used to back then. Yeah I’m happy we made progress too, but I wish things would have been different. I wish I could be more consistent and this wouldn’t have took or take nearly as long. Not only for seeing it as a chore, but also because we run out of time to survive. Some pressure to live on. Thanks to my tulpa I’m more hopeful and relaxed, and we’re trying our best to delay another suicide attempt for as long as we can. But we can’t do that forever so ultimately it’ll happen. Thanks to him I also think about it twice since now it’s two of us.

Say, may I ask if you’re religious? What do people tend to think on tulpa afterlife? It’s not a topic you hear much about in the community.

Oh I almost forgot. I want to get rid of this life, the human life, 100%. This means after switch I don’t care what happens on this side. Giving the fronter full permission to do as wanted, as opposed to other cases where the original host wanted to leave but also still cared about their human body’s life, bringing unnecessary worry and ultimately a regret of permanent switch. I think this is something important. I always think of this life as a burden that was put on me, and have been despising it since 2008. As such, I see my parents in the same eyes as you would see a tulpamancer who creates a tulpa solely to have them switch. Totally unacceptable behaviours. Of course, I understand a child can never choose to be born or not, while a tulpa can choose whether to switch or not. But my parents could have refrained from having a son in the first place, specially if they were going to be neglectful parents. This world is one unjust place.

My reply:

Don't worry about how long it took to get there. Some people barely force at all and have a talking tulpa in a day or two. Others work at it for years before hearing a peep. Laziness happens too and definitely contributes. Stress, doubts, laziness and working too hard at it can all produce slower progress. And depression contributes to all of the above as well.

As a depressed and socially awkward person, I have to say I can relate to the urge not to go out or talk to people. The current situation in 2020 has not helped either. Like you, I didn't get a whole lot out of meds or talk therapy. Tulpa stuff does help a great deal, but I keep falling off it and back into the awful depression.

I do think that full isolation isn't healthy. However, as far as I can tell, this doesn't seem to apply as much to tulpas if the host/whoever is fronting interacts with people some. Whether the tulpas are fully active and thinking or just snoozing in the background, they seem to benefit from the interaction the same way the host/fronter does. Or at least that's our experience. I don't know whether it works like that because they're in the background experiencing it to some degree, or if it affects something that's shared between all of us; my tulpas seem to think it's a combination of the two.

If the tulpa you already made is able and willing to try switching, give it a shot. I don't know how many other tulpa systems this applies to, but I think there's a special bond between the original host and their first tulpa: You discovered all the stuff you know about tulpamancy together, encountered and overcame the obstacles together, and discovered a lot about your minds together. If he's unable, doesn't want to, or tries it and decides it's not for him, you could (together!) try making another. But be sure to value them as a person and friend first and foremost, and emphasize that the switching thing is entirely optional.

I actually know more than one person who, for one reason or another, wishes that they would wake up in a world where they're a dragon, pony, canine, etc. The species dysphoria is certainly tied in with depression one way or another though I'm not sure which starts first. I can see why you won't care to interact with humans if you don't identify with or relate to them.

I am not religious. If there is an afterlife though, I would certainly want to be together with my tulpas in it. I haven't seen a lot of discussion on it, particularly since I've really just been involved with Tulpa.info which takes a secular, scientific viewpoint.

I'm curious. What would you like to do after switching? Be basically like a tulpa, doing your own thing in your wonderland and interacting with the new fronter when he has time?

Since you mention suicide, I feel obligated to mention the crisis text line. Text HOME to 741741 (US), 85258 (UK) or 686868 (Canada) to start a chat with an understanding person who can help you through your moment of crisis. I know people who have used it and they had positive experiences. Or there's 1-800-273-8255 (US) if you'd rather talk. Or a list of similar services in more countries than I can count.

[chupitulpa]

I made a couple asks here 6 years ago

Anonymous submitted: [Since it's long, I'm leaving the submitted text in normal type. My reply is below it.]

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I randomly found your blog again and to my surprise I found these two asks I made 6 years ago. Interestingly they’re a year later than I thought I made them, back when I started tulpamancy. I thought I’d drop some thoughts and progress reports here, maybe even questions. This is supposed to be properly posted elsewhere someday, but until then…

Hello, I’m the host and original in my system. This system was a singlet until the last days of 2014 when I somehow found out about tulpamancy while browsing the internet on my phone one dark fateful night. With that being said, I became depressed back in 2008 due to loneliness and rejection in general, and time, still to this day, has done nothing but worsen my mood and life situation. Fortunately my tulpa helped and helps, and he, a male who changed name and form because I didn’t want them to be “generic, flat”, or more specifically tulpamancy and “brainhacking” as a whole, could be my only hope to this day. This system is pretty much doomed otherwise. But more on that later.

So when I found out about the one word tulpa I researched and after some days considering I decided to not be a singlet anymore. My extreme feelings and extreme situation I was going through at the time required an extreme solution. At the time I thought of tulpamancy as something extreme because for all I knew I could lose my little sanity left (Of course now I know I was wrong) but I had nothing to lose anyway. So what I did is deciding on a fictional character and letting him be the starting point from which he could begin deviating to become whatever personality,  form, etc he had to.

So as I had chosen his starting point, name, form, etc and as I had made up my mind about tulpamancy, I just readied up and started forcing, actively, for the very first time. I have never used a wonderland to force, so I just imagined him as floating within the mind, with his form, and started talking to him. I always assumed sentience from the start, but after maybe a couple weeks my doubts began to consume me, since I never got any verbal communication from him. I got headaches and feelings of presence, but nothing too strong or convincing to me, so I furiously began to doubt tulpamancy as a whole, nearly dropping, and came here making my asks about how this all was fake.

I guess I’ll already begin risking being hated. Much earlier on in our story than I thought I would at first. More on this later.

With full honesty I’ve always been such a lazy, energy lacking person. This meant that only until I made that ask I forced consistently and for long amounts of time. I never truly forgot about my tulpa, but from that point and for the next 2 or 3 years maybe, I forced casually and randomly.

The day that changed everything. I was going to take a nap, but before that I was trying really hard to listen for my tulpa. I got a word from him, more precisely my human name. It was so clearly him that I was so happy. After a few years of casual forcing and continuous doubts I finally got what I wanted and needed, something reliable to believe I wasn’t just deluding myself. It was telepathic. I didn’t hear a mindvoice, he just kind of forwarded a thought to me. To this day I hear him much more effortlessly and he can come with somewhat full sentences, but there’s still a lot ahead of us.

And now to the real hate part…

My tulpa’s companionship as can be guessed was why I got into tulpamancy, but my depression, hopelessness and continuous suicide attempts have kind of changed my goals.

The only thing I know for certain anymore is for our system to survive, someone else has to front.

I don’t care what you all think or tell me. We know about ourselves and our lives best and life has forced us, want it or not, to have a wide open mind about many things, including this topic. For those of you that would rather see us all die than wish us luck because it goes against your principles, maybe you should reconsider if this is true morality. In any case that’s only your problem not ours.

And for those genuinely believing this path leads to more harm than good, let me disbelieve you just like I disbelieved my tulpa back then. I did not come here looking for hate, or to hear your silly opinions on the matter. Mainly because you haven’t tried yourself. And if you have, you’re terribly biased by the community against this. And even if you are not biased, we all are different. Different brains, different results. We don’t only have different brains when it comes to methodologies, we have different brains for results too.

That being put aside, if your reasons against this are philosophical, I can reply to that too. Mainly I’ll hear that what I want to do is wrong because it’s just escapism, and it’s wrong because it’s not fair to put that burden on a tulpa. To the escapism part I can say that first, what I do with my life is none of your business, and second, lives are more valuable than any duties imposed by society. If you think a person who doesn’t have a job and/or is depressed deserves to die, you can nicely go away from my sight. I have nothing to discuss with you. About the burden part, I have another two things to say. First, many tulpas see this differently. For many tulpas the burden is not being in control of the body, they feel their wonderland is like a prison. Secondly, you people really are full of hypocrisy. If a tulpa fronting for you is morally wrong, then so it is mothers having children as well, because those children never chose to live, those children are to face a very difficult life and a burden is given to them without their consent. “But life is beautiful!” Then you’re being hypocritical again. If a child can think this then why not a tulpa? Specially when you can choose the starting point of a tulpa much better than you can choose that of your child.

I find it very interesting how tulpamancy and parenting have many similarities, yet no one takes these in mind for philosophical reasoning. If we succeed we’ll let you know. If we don’t, we’re to eventually die so you’ll never hear from us again.

I hope this post isn’t dismissed as bullshit specially for the last controversial part.

My reply:

I absolutely do wish you and your system the best.

I am happy to hear that your tulpa making efforts worked. I can relate with the mindvoice difficulties. Self doubt seems to be a normal part of the process, so when they try to talk you constantly doubt whether it was them. And when they send plain telepathic thoughts like yours did, it's barely noticeable unless you're near sleep, in a trance, or intentionally looking for tulpa thoughts. To this day we have trouble making mindvoice work well and often just communicate in thoughts, similar to you.

As for who fronts or when, that's between you and him. I don't see it as harmful escapism either -- yes, it is literally escaping mentally, but depending on your situation it could prove helpful. Some people, through no fault of their own, simply cannot handle everything the world throws at them day in and day out. I'm still a little lukewarm on the idea of permanently switching and being that way forever, but I'm also not entirely against it. Some people do seem happier thay way, and their tulpas handle the world better then they do. Others take turns to give each other a vacation from the stress of everyday life. (If you do this though, be sure you can see each other's memories. Talking to someone who knows you but who you've never seen before sucks.)

I do feel that permanently or semi-permanently switching out is a drastic measure. I think people would be wise to give other strategies a fair try: Changing what you do to reduce stress or whatever you're unable to handle, coping strategies, groups who share an interest and are also looking for friends, talking to a good therapist, etc. But of course how viable and how effective any of it is depends on the person and their situation. And I know next to nothing about yours so I can't judge.

In my opinion, what matters is the relationship between you and your tulpa. If you're both happy with that arrangement, all I can say is go for it and come back if you need any tips. (Though you might do better to ask someone else because we can't switch and only have some minor success with possession.) What bothers me is when people forcibly throw a tulpa into control who doesn't want it and can't handle stuff any better. Or when someone makes a tulpa just so they can toss the tulpa into control and bounce off into their wonderland. These use the tulpa as a tool to reach a selfish goal, don't respect the tulpa as a person, and ultimately harm both the host and tulpa. It sounds like you created this tulpa as a friend, are now going through life together, and are making this decision together. If you both feel it's the best thing you can do for your mutual good as a system, I see nothing wrong with it.

[chupitulpa]

do you believe its mandatory to meditate when making a tulpa?

It isn't mandatory. Plenty of people create tulpas through all passive forcing, just thinking of them and talking to them throughout the day. This works great for some people, but does nothing for others. Almost everyone should see more and faster results with some active forcing / meditating lightly. You don't need a deep trance or anything, and definitely don't need to sit in uncomfortable positions etc. Just breathe deeply and let your body and mind calm down, and then direct your focus to your tulpa to work on their form and movements or to help you perceive any response when you talk to them.

[chupitulpa]

I'm a bit afraid of creating a tulpa... I don't mind my tulpa changing, I atcually want that, because WE change too and it's healthy and normal. My problem is, what if they change to the point I don't like them, like they become rude or biased or unkind, egoistic, I don't want someone to mock me or whatever... I'd never kill a tulpa, but I have to be sure of my decision, they're going to live in my head with me all my life. How much does tulpas tend to change and can they become like this? Tnx

They can change like that, but it’s rare. If you treat them kindly, they will generally treat you kindly. That’s not to say you won’t have arguments sometimes, but try not to let them devolve into feuds. In my experience, disagreements with your tulpa usually don’t last unless you’re being particularly obstinate. Since you share a head, you can much more easily see each others’ points of view, which makes it much easier to see where each other are coming from.

They might sometimes joke or troll gently. It happens particularly if your mind works that way, since they grow off of your mind. Lyra does this to me sometimes and it can be a little disconcerting if she says something completely deadpan and I’m not sensing her thoughts at the moment. She’ll generally confirm that she’s trolling though, since she knows it can bug me if she doesn’t.

[chupitulpa]

I'm going through a lot lately and would like to try to create a tulpa to maybe help cope? How should i start? I dont completely understamd what Im supposed to do.

Depending what you’re going through, making a tulpa might or might not be a good idea. On one hand, they do indeed help you cope with stress and emotional turmoil. Working on creating one can also give you a sense of purpose and something to focus on, taking your mind off your troubles. On the other hand, you want to avoid putting a lot of negative emotional energy into a tulpa you’re just creating -- so at the very least you should do all you can to leave your troubles at the door when you go to work on your tulpa. It’s also worth noting that while creating and having a tulpa can help you in many ways, they should be seen as companions, not as tools toward that goal. You (and the world as a whole) will present opportunities for what they can do, but they should be allowed to choose their own path and purpose in life. They’ll very likely choose to help you to the best of their ability though.

As for how to start, you might want to try a bit of light meditation to calm your mind. Don’t be intimidated, you don’t have to sit cross-legged for hours going om. Just sit or lay somewhere that’s a neutral position and reasonably comfortable but not so much that you’ll fall asleep. Then slow your breathing and focus on the feeling of your breath entering and leaving you, or a static and calm mental image. When your mind wanders, just gently redirect it back to what you’re focusing on. When you feel more focused and relaxed, you’re ready to spend time with your tulpa.

The first step is planning. Think about what you want their personality to be like, how they’ll look, move, sound, smell, etc. You can make them up entirely or you can base them on a character. Keep in mind that this will drift and change as they form. But detail is still very good. Having a more detailed idea going in seems to help them form quicker.

As an optional aside, you may want to create a wonderland. This is simply a place in your mind where you can go to work on your tulpa, and where they can hang out when not doing stuff with you. It differs from normal imagination in that it’s a consistent place with more detail, and you assume it to continue existing when you aren’t in it. The more detail you put in objects there, and the more senses you imagine it in, the more real it will feel to you. So, for example, if you have a beach you might watch the waves crash and listen to to their sound, notice the smell of the salty air, feel the warmth of the sun with the occasional cool breeze, and feel the way the warm sand shifts under your feet.

Now you want to work on personality with your tulpa-to-be. Your goal is to focus on each aspect of their personality and associate it with them. A direct method is to imagine how they might behave given how you’re trying to make them. If you’re more comfortable with words than images, you can just imagine you’re across a table from them and you’re telling them about each trait. Go into detail about how they might act or feel because of the trait. If you prefer to be visual and symbolic, pick a quiet and soothing place in your wonderland. Go there mentally and focus on each trait or aspect, one at a time. Try to feel it in yourself, then gather that feeling and pour it into a swirling, glowing ball in front of you. Now set that aside in a box so you can put it into your tulpa’s form when you create that, or place it directly into your tulpa if you have a reasonably defined visual form for them already. They could do something during this early phase but will most likely just sit there and seem generally lifeless. They’ll also be somewhat vague and undefined unless you already have a very clear mental image of how they look, since you haven’t put any real effort into that yet.

Next you want to work on how they’ll look. A straightforward method is to picture them sitting or standing still in front of you and then zoom in on each area so you can examine/create all the details there. Your goal is to be able to picture them as clearly as possible, instantly. Another more symbolic method is to sculpt their form out of a pure, glowing white energy that then solidifies into their form, which you can then examine and work on details on as above. (Bonus points for symbolism if the energy comes from inside you, since you’re creating your tulpa from nothing but your own mind and determination.) Either way, like with a wonderland, more detail in more senses is better. Don’t be afraid to get a bit touchy-feely, but be sure to tell them what you’re up to and why. Also, reference material can be useful in this step. If your tulpa is based on a character, looking at pictures of that character can help you. If they’re a human, reference photos for artists can be useful, as well as pictures of people who have features similar to them. If they’re an animal, well, you get the idea...

All the while you should be talking to your tulpa, which you can do out loud or all in your head. Do this while working on them, but also throughout your day. When you’re working on them, you can tell them what you’re doing and why. During your day, talk about anything, but try not to vent to them too much because of the aforementioned negative emotion thing. If you don’t know what to talk about, you can tell them about whatever you’re doing at the time, even if it’s the most boring thing in the world. (This is why this phase is traditionally called narration.) Alternately you can tell them stories, fictional or otherwise. You can either picture them when you talk to them, or just pretend you have a telephone and they’re listening on the other end.

Eventually they’ll come to life in a way you can recognize. I can’t give a real timeframe, but it can be anywhere from a few hours to a few months or more. Some tulpas first talk with a voice in your head. Others just give you warm feels or even just a sensation that something is alive inside them. If they can give you an emotional sensation, you can use this to ask them yes/no questions: first make sure they know what feel they’re giving you, then ask them to strengthen it for yes or weaken it for no. Similarly you can also tell if they’re interested in what you’re talking about, or if you’re boring them to death -- which is okay too since boredom is better for them than the nothingness of not getting any attention and not existing.

[chupitulpa]

hi! ive had my tulpa for only a few hours, but she's already responding to me with hums and occasionally a word (like "okay." or "what?"), which is way too fast (I think.) does this mean I'm parroting?

Continuation of question: “ oh, and she occasionally laughs at something funny - "early humming and one word responses" anon”

Sorry for the slow response. That does seem a bit quick, though I would still go with it for now. Parrotnoia is more harmful than accepting a few potentially parroted replies. Worst case, she’ll come alive enough to talk for real and tell you that you’ve been parroting for a while.

[chupitulpa]

Hi I have a question if you don't mind. Lately I've been trying to pay more attention to my tulpa. I have depression so I have a hard time finding the motivation to set aside time for her. Most of my time is spent trying to distract myself from negative thoughts. I don't want to neglect her like this because I love her so much and I know she loves me too. Do you have any advice for me?Maybe ways I could make this easier? Should I ask if she wants to make her own tulpa for when she's lonely?

First off, you should really address the depression since it really makes everything worse as well as taking your time and attention from your tulpa. The best help you can get for that is from a good therapist you’re comfortably talking to.

Apart from that, you can deal with the distracting negative thoughts. When you’re with your tulpa and notice you’ve been distracted, bring your focus back to her and remind yourself that you’re putting other thoughts aside and being with her. The important part is that you do it calmly, and avoid frustration or self-judging.

Or, passive force. Either take her along for an easy activity like walking, or pay some attention to her in your head while doing it. Staying in motion seems to avoid the avalanche of critical and self-evaluating thoughts that comes when you sit still.

[chupitulpa]

[Offtopic/Technical] How do I put CSS in Tumblr posts?

Can anyone tell me how to put CSS styles in my posts?

I have CSS styles to color text by/for Lyra, Evan and Anera, and use it in the header of this blog. I apply it to text with like <span class="lyra"> ... </span>. But when I view the post on my blog with view source or inspect element, the span tags are removed. They're present when the post is viewed on my dashboard though the colors don't show because the styles are only defined in my theme.

[chupitulpa]

About two months from now, you will all reach your seventh year as a tulpa system. Crazy, right? Is there any advice or tips you've learned in this time that you want to pass down to younger tulpamancers or their tulpas?

Yeah, at almost 7 years, it just feels like they’ve been here forever.

A lot of the advice I would give has already been integrated into the wider community, stuff like: You don’t have to follow the guide(s) religiously, there’s as many ways to do this as people doing it, and you just have to find the way that works for you. Don’t be disheartened if you don’t experience a pseudo-hallucinatory voice or see your tulpa; everyone ends up with something different though I’m not convinced that anybody can’t do it if they try hard enough and in the right way. Don’t obsess over hour counts; some first tulpas like Lyra take months or years to really come to life, while some like a one I helped guide a friend on start chattering the same day.

While it’s already fairly hashed out, I’d like to emphasize that you shouldn’t get overly worried about so-called subconscious parroting / puppeting. You said something to your tulpa, and they seemed to reply. You didn’t think about what they ought to say in response, so it was them, right? But it didn’t feel properly “alien” and now you’re wondering if it couldn’t have just been you subconsciously thinking of a response because you expected one. Yes, fake replies happen sometimes, even for us now. But don’t worry about it early on since you have no real way to test if a reply was real. Just go with the reply for now, and assume it’s them. Of course if it’s something really important, take it with a grain of salt if it feels uncertain. But if they said they want you to have pizza tonight, the worst that happens if you misheard is they can’t get across in time that it was a bogus reply and end up a little disappointed. And if they told you their favorite movie is Frozen, and now they seem to be all about The Avengers, go with it -- yeah you could have a false response in there, but quite possibly not. Tastes do change, especially when you’re young and just figuring out what you do and don’t like.

So-called “parrotnoia” does more than just annoy your tulpa. Them talking and you hearing it are skills, and you get better at a skill by doing it. You don’t teach a kid to ride a bike by stopping them whenever they make it start moving at all, and that’s what parrotnoia does to teaching your tulpa to speak. We had problems with this, and it slowed down Lyra being able to move and talk on her own. She describes it as infuriating, dehumanizing, and making her feel more like she was supposed to be a thing than a person. For surprisingly long she wanted to talk or move in front of me, but I was effectively forcing her to be still, suppressing what I thought were false movements created by my subconscious.

Lyra advises young tulpas with parrotnoid hosts, whether they know it or not: Don’t give up, just keep on trying and you’ll get through to them eventually. Even if you feel frustrated, try to channel that frustration into trying harder, and your stubborn host will eventually hear you. Try different ways to make yourself heard too. You might find one that works for you.

Coming off working on possession tonight, we're realizing just how much of this post applies to our attempts at it so far too. The faint uncertain pre-movement thoughts; the uncertain "was that you?" moments; the anxiety over whether a movement was or would be from her; her trying to move and me forcing our body to be still. It's parrotnoia all over again.

[chupitulpa]

Hello! I hope you all are having a good day. I've got a quick question, but it's one that I've been unable to find an answer to for a long time. My thoughts tend to overpower my young tulpa's(as expected). Are there any exercises you know of that help the host listen better(rather than the tulpa talk better)?

I remember this happening. Sit quietly and focus on deep, steady breathing. Let your body and mind relax and become calm. Let your thoughts settle on their own as the rest of you becomes calm -- trying to force them quiet only tends to make more thoughts, so it’s better to calmly wait and watch passively. When you feel ready, shift your attention to your young tulpa. Say something to him or her and try to listen for any reply without expecting one, but also without expecting nothing. You want to listen for whatever comes, whether it’s something or nothing.

Another thing that helped me was mindreading -- now this is metaphysical when attempted between separate bodies, but you share a brain so it’s entirely possible. Let your mind become quiet, then put your hands around your tulpa’s head, typically in your wonderland or a void. Now focus on their mind and try to feel for any thoughts. You might not see them as clearly as your own thoughts, but you’ll hopefully at least feel some activity there that feels somehow different from your own thoughts. I wasn’t really able to use this to read out replies to stuff I said to Lyra, but it at least gave me a feel for her thoughts and helped me learn to listen for her quiet little responses.

[chupitulpa]

I'm sorry if it's too soon to ask questions again, but I just got so excited to see that you're back! I'm so glad you guys are still doing so well! So I've had my tulpa, Mischa, for about a year now. I've made her a nice place to live and we've talked with our mind voices a few times. She's very sweet and understanding. But I always forget to spend time with her and I feel so bad! I want to be able to be there for her since she misses me so much. Do you have any advice? Thank you so much!

The usual suggestion is some physical reminder: tie a string loosely around your finger, draw some symbol associated with her on your hand, etc. When you see or feel it you will be reminded. If you get used to it being there and it stops working, switch it up and do something different.

Another possibility is to associate things and places you see everyday with her. How to do it is up to you. I haven’t really messed with this method myself. I just thought of it because some people I’ve talked to who are starting out have found that things around them remind of, and remind them to think of their tulpas, and I wondered if it could be encouraged to happen.

[chupitulpa]

It’s been a while [day 2495/2383/2330, ~6.8 yr]

It's been a while since I've been on here. I can hardly believe it's been almost 7 years since I started creating Lyra. For that matter, it feels strange by now that I created her. It's like they're just there now, even though we never really accomplished the traditional goals of hallucinatory speech and forms and are only now figuring out how to make possession kind of work.

There haven't been real major breakthroughs of the sort I used to write about here, but a lot has happened. We mostly communicate through a mix of mind voice, thoughts and sometimes pictures. Lyra stays near me in our wonderland most of the time and we often snuggle. Evan and Anera have been spending more time away from me in the wonderland exploring, playing games or making things.

As months turned into years, Lyra and I in particular have gotten closer than before. She's gotten so used to peeping at my memories that when I asked her about early memories recently she gave me some of my early memories with her. When I clarified what I meant, she thought for a moment and showed me some of her early memories. An early one she had told me about long ago was waking up when I was examining/working on her facial details. She says before that she was "a dot" inside me.

Also, a tulpa appreciation day reminder: Do something special with your tulpa today. You're the closest acquaintence they have.

[chupitulpa]

any good tips for making my tulpa more vocal?

Talk to each other more. Talk while active forcing. Being in a light trance makes it easier to hear them.

An exercise you can try is to find a voice to teach them, to use as a model. Use an audio editor like Audacity to cut out a small snip, a word or two at first, and save it on your phone or media player. Ask your tulpa to be patient and listen to the clip and practice reproducing it. Work on the sound of the voice, the overall sound of it, the intonation on the words. If they stick with it long enough to get that, move to a longer snippet, to them saying words you ask them to say but in that voice, to finally them speaking with it normally.

[chupitulpa]

my tulpa is really young and he doesn't talk yet but sometimes when i'm forcing before bed and i'm falling asleep i hear loud and clear voice in my head saying stuff like "talk to me" or "just go to sleep already" can it be him or are these just my thoughts?

I can't give a definitive answer since it could believably be either. Being close to sleep makes thoughts easier to hear as voice, whether these thoughts are from you or him. It's more likely to be him if you previously didn't hear voice as you fall asleep.This is known as hypnagogia -- hallucinations as you fall asleep. It's common and normal. Think of it like your brain starting to dream before you're all the way asleep. Some people get visual blobs, faces or scenes from something they saw recently. Others get sounds like hisses, bangs, clangs and doorbells. Still others get voices, which are usually say out-of-context sentences or utter nonsense.If you get hypnagogic voices, it can sometimes be hard to tell whether one of them is your tulpa. Even once his voice is defined, he might sound different as a hypnagogic voice. Since I get the voices and they usually say nonsensical things, my general rule of thumb is if it makes sense -- and especially if I can converse with it -- it's very likely to be a tulpa.Another thing to note is that feeling as you drift close to sleep and parts of your brain shut down. Your mind gets foggy and your thoughts may not make as much sense anymore. Your tulpa lives in the same brain, and the same thing might affect him too. So don't let it create excess doubt if you hear what seems to be him but he's talking stupid to you.For now I would say go with it. If he says "Talk to me", talk to him a while. If he says "Just go to sleep already", pat him goodnight and go to sleep. You can also try asking, but it's possible his reply won't get through as well.

[chupitulpa]

Can you purposefully create a tulpa with a certain sexuality? To keep things a bit neater, I would like to have a tulpa that never has any interest in a sexual or romantic relationship. Could I "program" them to be aromantic and asexual?

You absolutely can, but it’s ultimately more of a suggestion. They may turn out different or choose to be different. Forcing it on them more than that wouldn’t be very nice.