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Hmm actually Lucy Gray is different from Haymitch and Katniss and Peeta because her tragedy is she caused the games to continue. If the games hadn't become entertaining, they wouldn't have continued and she made it entertaining because she was an entertainer - she saved herself but she doomed dozens more because she performed too well and it allowed the Capitol to make the games a performance in the later years. Haymitch's tragedy is that he couldn't end the games, Lucy Gray's is that she continued them.

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The fact that Druscilla and Magno are still married for tax purposes😂

lmao yes she hates his guts but it's still convenient for them to stay married😭😭😭😭😭😭

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Hayffie interaction in the hunger games script

It's the small details in these interactions that, after the book, enrich the relationship between them so much. It's interesting that this relationship, since the first film, was already thought of as being intimate. I think this says a lot about Hayfie: it's not about big declarations or big gestures, but rather about intimacy, affection and the small details.

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suzanne collins: hayffie isn't real. haymitch is going to die alone haunted by his dead girlfriend.

woody harrelson and elizabeth banks:

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Vacant eyes

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This is even better when you realizes they met before alcoholism and wigs and makeup

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wdym she was the last person he saw before going into the games

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THIS POST CONTAINS THG SOTR SPOILERS

finished sunrise on the reaping !! losing my mind. i cried so much.

here are some long rambling thoughts about my beloved effie trinket and also her friendship/relationship to haymitch abernathy. (yes, i’m back here after all these years lmao)

CW for themes present in the hunger games novels — murder, war, torture, cannibalism

this really is kinda wild to get new canon lore about haymitch and effie’s backstory so many years later. and that it contradicts all of our old fanon headcanons is funny, but honestly i love this canon backstory.

effie wasn’t a child watching haymitch’s games, but she’s actually a lil bit older than him! probably 5-10 years older, right? and imo she’s such a sweetheart even though she’s flawed and capitol-brainwashed. she came in and showed so much kindness to the D12 districts in the 50th hunger games, she met haymitch before he went into the arena and saw his true self. before alcoholism, before the capitol twisted him into something he wasn’t. the moment when he picked up the dropped makeup box for her was sweet.

i just love all of the new details we learn about effie. in the og trilogy katniss is so oblivious and dismissive of effie (no shade ily katniss) so i really enjoyed getting haymitch’s pov and finding out that he feels comforted by her and trusts her

• she had lavender hair when we first meet her!! this to me feels related to maysilee having a lavender dress at the reaping. something something both women are women haymitch grows to love. also love that we see effie wearing lavender in the hunger games movies a lot. lavender is associated with many meanings — calmness, grace, love, devotion, femininity, queerness, royalty, take your pick.

• loved to know effie loved her younger sister proserpina so fiercely and would go out of her way to help her :’)

• she dressed D12 nicely for their interviews and really showed them some small moments of kindness — it was especially lovely to see her and maysilee having moments of girlhood together in what were maysilee’s last hours of normality — and that she was kind to lou lou

• also i enjoyed the hints about the trinket family and effie’s great-aunt messalina and great-uncle silius disgracing the family during the war. knowing it’s ‘hard (enough) to be a trinket’ in the context of the capitol really informs us of so much of effie’s motivations and mannerisms. she’s obsessed with being perfect because their family has clearly been critiqued and shunned at times. her sister’s at the university, not the academy, which means they aren’t part of the capitol elite.

and thinking about what they might have done to be disgraced… silius trinket owned clothes with concealed weapon slots? bloodstains?? plutarch describing silius as ‘depraved’??? it probably wasn’t rebel sympathy because effie says “you win” when vitus says that’s what his grandfather was, so i’m leaning towards cannibalism, becausec also…

in TBOSAS we learn from snow that nero price (a titan of the railroad industry) was a cannibal during the war and served his maid’s leg to his family. his daughter persephone price was a mentor along with snow in the 10th hunger games. it’s implied persephone price, as a child, ate the human meat food that her father provided. much like the myth of persephone eating the pomegranates from the underworld.

can someone with more ancient history knowledge pls expand upon this — i feel like it’s something. now, in ancient rome, valeria messalina was the cousin of emperor nero. she was the third wife of the roman emperor claudius, but had an affair and married her lover silius and as a result, messalina and silius were both executed.

and proserpina (effie’s sister) is the roman name for persephone (confirmed daughter of a cannibal in tbosas)! i personally believe that’s gotta be a sign that effie’s relatives also engaged in cannibalism during the war.

• effie told haymitch he was being brave and said he deserved to look beautiful 🥹

• she’s a fake leather hater, lol, this fact goes so well with film!effie loving mahogany

• she was so nervous before haymitch went into the arena that her hands were shaking, and she reminded him not to step off the plate for 60 seconds so he wouldn’t die

• she promised to get his token to his love (leonore dove) if he died in the arena

• she believed in a positive attitude to get through anything :’)

• post-games, she stood strong in the face of peacekeeper bullets and she was already faking positivity and she was determined as ever, ‘you can’t keep effie down’

• while everyone else saw haymitch as a vicious animal and had him chained up, she trusted he would never hurt her and stood by him

• she watched over haymitch at the victory party in the capitol when he was in a cage

• when they needed a new escort and plutarch suggested effie, she came even though it wouldn’t be easy for her. being an escort is a way for her to climb the social ranks, but it’s also so challenging and puts effie in line of president snow’s gaze

• after his family and leonore were killed, she tried to motivate haymitch to keep living when he was suicidal and she helped him to bathe and get cleaned up and doted on him and she took the knife out of his hands when he started sleeping with it

• she tried to keep haymitch sober on the victory tour despite all the booze around them

i love her so much u guys. she’s such a misunderstood character with a lot of love in her heart <33333

she’s brainwashed by the capitol from birth and she’s certainly got all of their superficiality, like she worries about trivial things like ageing and cares too much about how she looks, but in her heart she’s good and kind. she’s clearly just trying to survive and not get herself or her family killed by the regime.

plus, i’m now thinking of all of this in context of the other novels.

how in the hunger games haymitch tries to hug effie when she’s drunk (but she pushes him away bc she’s worried about looking perfect for the reaping), and how they bicker (more so in the films) but trust and actually get along with each other, because now we know they’ve known each other 25 years at this point and in this time, and that means they were mentor and escort to 46 children who died before katniss and peeta came along.

effie tries to help katniss and peeta, as best as she can, and she grows to love them. she just wants them to be safe and hates to see them hurt. and she wishes she could make sponsor deals… and she and haymitch are “of one mind” and really do work well together as a team. and effie hides her smiles when the other 3 are being kinda traitorous. she’s got a rebellious streak herself.

then in catching fire she’s even more of a mother hen to peeta and katniss, she stops drinking in solidarity with haymitch while he’s trying to be sober, she gets them all the gold bangles to be a team, when effie stresses about being behind schedule and everything not being perfect because of delays haymitch sides with effie when katniss is rude to her, effie fusses over the kids all the time, she freaks out when peeta and katniss do the seneca crane / rue moments to the gamemakers and haymitch sides with her warning them not to be rebellious. effie is so deeply aware of how rebellion gets u killed and she keeps her mouth shut to stay alive. just like haymitch does. GAHHHH.

and, the detail in sotr that effie hates needles, but then in mockingjay (the book) she ends up a prisoner of the capitol and gets tortured and starved and probably gets drugged to all hell. and haymitch and plutarch have a hard time keeping her alive. bloody hell.

now, onto the hayffie of it all.

book!haymitch loves leonore more than anything, and he still sees visions of her throughout his life including into the epilogue, post-war. i always wondered what suzanne collins would do after the films leaned in harder into the hayffie romance angle (thank u woody and liz lmao) and i do like that she kept it aligned to the original books — it’s very mature and realistic. they do care deeply for each other, but it’s not some glossed over romance given the deep trauma haymitch has been through.

book!haymitch by the end of his games, after everyone he loves is murdered, believes that he cannot love anyone or they’ll die. he closes himself off completely. of course he’s not going to allow himself to become romantically linked to effie and have a relationship with her. he’s broken and an alcoholic and trying to win a rebellion. katniss, in catching fire, thinks he could’ve had any woman in the district, but he doesn’t. he can’t.

but in the epilogue, now that the war’s over? yeah he worries that his liver is gonna fail him, but he’s still only in his early 40s and they do have great medicine so who’s to say what happens between him and effie in the next 40-50 years of their lives? maybe they stay just friends, maybe they become romantic. i think that’s all open to interpretation. SOTR really doesn’t rule out romantic!hayffie to me. in fact i think it gives us some delicious angst potential (hello fanfic) wherein he loves effie but will always love and mourn leonore.

anyway, i am just so glad to know more about effie trinket and glad we got to see her again. she is so special to me. i need an effie book please and thank you. ❤️

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me, after years of writing haymitch to be older with effie being younger: no, actually, you’re right suzanne. THIS is way more fun

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Her sister being the reason Effie became an escort while Katniss became a tribute to save her sister will be one of my new favorite parallels. Don‘t come at me, I don‘t care, I need a little light after finishing SOTR.

I‘ll forever be grateful to Suzanne Collins for making Effie a friendly and helpful girl who didn‘t want to be an escort from the start. There are bad people, actively helping the regime, but Effie didn‘t know any better - most of us would probably be like her in such a world.

Effie Trinket, my forever comfort character.

Suzanne C. really saw all those anti-Effie dummies trying that hard to create the narrative where she was a bad person —selfish, indifferent, who doesn’t care about anyone but herself— and not just a regular capitol citizen who were drowned in propaganda since she’s born. And said fine, if you all won’t get the point by yourselves, i’ll have to spell it out. In a totalitarian regime you can’t hold everyone’s responsible for the system they were born into. Ignorance is a real weapon for submission. Take away the right of someone to developed critical thinking and you’ll dominate them completely. Make them trust you to keep them safe and you’ll have their eternal loyalty. And when someone has your mind and body in their hands, there is nothing you can do but to believe on them. There is nothing you can do but go down on your knees and show them all of your gratitude for the privilege of peace and protection

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hayffie still kissed goodbye on the lips. fuck the gossip

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Today is the day

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Although I expected it, and there was only ever any Hayffie in the movies, my heart was fractured a little. It seems so painful to never let go of a dead person - pretty sure Lenore Dove wouldn‘t have wanted that for him.

The age gap was somewhat unnecessary. How much older is Effie supposed to be? I‘m glad he regards her somewhat positively (for Haymitchs pov since he hates the Capitol that‘s a plus).

This will hurt me for a while, but I‘ll contine to ship Hayffie haha. My heart just isn‘t made for the thought that Haymitch dies alone with his geese. Yes, Katniss and Peeta are there, but you know what I mean.

I think it’s sweet that they’ve known each other since his games, and that she’s been looking out for him since the beginning of his time in the Capitol. I still don’t think it makes sense for her to be older and I’m not done complaining about it.

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The last day where all my headcanons of Haymitch and Hayffie have a ground to exist on.

Writing and imagining them for 10 years but I could not be more excited for tomorrow.

Sunrise on the Reaping might destroy my work but it‘ll destroy me more and I love everything about it.

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i am not unhappy about sunrise on the reaping, but this new people wishing Haymitch to remain alone for the rest of his life, because of a love he had when he was fucking sixteen was not a good addition

Katniss was the living proof of how love can help you to heal and start living. She was fucking addicted to morphing and wishing she was dead before Peeta was back and saved her from this nightmare. And you all will look me in the eyes and say you fucking wish him to be in that condition for the rest of his life, because he’d loved someone really hard once???????

You fucking wish him to never learn how to heal and move on from a deep wound that he got when he was barely a teenager? You fucking wish him to be alone at his home, watching Katniss and Peeta loving each other, building their families and moving on, despite everything they’ve lost, and doing nothing more than drinking himself to death so he can stay with his dead teenage girlfriend? You guys hate him?

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fucking hell

I just realized that haymitch is an alcoholic. AN ALCOHOLIC. not a morphling addict. though he probably could have ended up one.

so anyway. alcohol.

alcohol is highly flammable. so much so that it evaporates quickly and leaves vapors in the air that ignite when exposed to heat. like a spark, or a flame.

a spark. "It's almost as bad as us with the berries."

fire is catching. "Almost but not quite."

who mentored Katniss? who laid down the groundwork for her eventual acts of rebellion? who planned the extraction in the 75th games around her? who fueled her fire in order to pull of a full-on political movement?

suzanne collins I am begging you to stop making every last detail of your books symbolic in some way holy shit my brain hurts