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Very true D would never let a silly thing like the law stop him

Guys… I don’t think we’re getting the Mittens wedding episode anytime soon…

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Guys… I don’t think we’re getting the Mittens wedding episode anytime soon…

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I watched half of X-men ‘97 last night.

I feel like my emotional balls were kicked over and over again with steel-toed boots 10/10 will finish today.

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Do we think Satanized is a play on Canonized... the act of becoming a saint???

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Snowby community do you see my vision (I couldn’t find a good picture of the Remembrance Day outfits but those would work rlly well)

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Papa V Theories (RHRN Spoilers ahead)

So "soon" was tomorrow. Oops! Like many others, Ghost has consumed my brain for the past few months. I've seen a lot of good posts on here about Papa V theories and wanted to throw my hat in the ring! I tried to get my credits right, but they're based on where I saw them first, so if I get anything wrong please let me know!

What Do We Actually Know About Papa V?

Disregarding all theories, and only going off of what has been officially said/shown, this is what we know about Papa V and the upcoming tour. This is probably common information but everyone should be on the same page.

Papa V's last name is Perpetua, this was revealed in the digital "v-cards" given out on Valentine's Day. (This card also revealed a possible lyric or song title.)

Part of the valentine's day gift included a playlist of "unholy hymns" on Spotify. Reddit user RedMasqueMedia pointed out that the first word of the song titles spelled out "SATANIZED." Another possible track, album name, or even the name of the tour (with the narrator making an "ss" sound before it's redacted in Chapter 18.)

What We Might Know About Papa Perpetua?

This is for things that haven't been directly stated but are implied.

The tour poster is inspired by the Cape Fear movie poster. (Credits for this observation go to u/mummyyydust on Reddit)

Papa Perpetua seems pretty short, but it could also be the camera's height or angle.

Stuff That's Not About Papa V but is Probably Important to Know

Perpetua is a Christian Martyr, and the patron saint of mothers, expecting mothers, Ranchers, and Butchers within the Catholic Church.

Resurrection Theories.

To keep things simple, I want to tackle this in sections. In this section, I'm going to discuss the theories that the "new papa" is actually a resurrected old papa. If I miss any evidence, please let me know!

Papa II is Papa V

I have to admit, this is one I really like. Largely because when they announced the tour my immediate thought was Secondo. My first piece of evidence is that the mask revealed in the band's tour poster looks like Secondo's. You could make the same argument for the other dead papas, but what I think sets this apart is the nose.

The paint on Terzo's nose is almost straight while Secondo's reaches out, like the mask seems to do. Of course, all of this is under the assumption that Tobias Fordge doesn't try out a half-mask (another theory I'll talk about later.)

For my second(o) point, I want to go back to the Tour poster. On the r/ghostbc subreddit, the user mummyyydust pointed out that the tour poster took inspiration from Cape Fear. From the summaries I've read online, Cape Fear has an overarching theme of revenge. This is another argument that could be made for many papas, but for Secondo I think we get our reason for revenge in the "Papaganda" videos posted on Noisey's YouTube account. In it, a nameless ghoul and others describe Secondo as a bitter, wounded, old man who feels like he was dealt a bad hand but is too old to care. I imagine these negative comments and his general disinterest in being Papa (outside of the carnal and musical benefits) would cause resentment. For my smaller points, "Satanized" sounds a lot like "Satan's Eyes" which is from "Into the Depths of Satan's Eyes." And even the tour's new, chrome look matches up with Secondo's Papa robes.

However, this theory falls apart when you consider that Secondo doesn't care that much about his Papacy. In the Papaganda series he states that he's content "making the bed for the new guy." Not to say that Secondo didn't enjoy the music and benefits that came with being Papa, but I can't see Secondo bringing himself to care enough to be Papa again if he was resurrected. Much less taking revenge on the ministry. I also don't see it making sense from a non-lore standpoint. Secondo has fans, yes, but he wasn't as beloved as Terzo and never got any awards or nominations for his music.

Terzo is Papa V

Another very popular one. I don't personally think this theory has much ground, but I want to give it a fair shot since it makes some good points.

I mentioned in my Secondo Theory that Terzo's paint was straight on the nose and that's why he can't be Papa Perpetua. While that is right, there is another variation of the Terzo mask that doesn't have this paint.

In Terzo's first two shows, Terzo has this paint, which is much more akin to Secondo's. As well as Papa Perpetua's. According to Ghostpedia, the reason is that Tobias was sent the wrong mask and had to use that one. But I couldn't find a source that is still available. (It is important to note that this mask is not Secondo's. The cheek and eye paint are different. I'm only putting this because I got confused upon seeing it and thought others might have too.)

Another piece of evidence I see a lot is people pointing out the scratches on Terzo's glass coffin, and the fact that he is put in a different position than all the others. I think that the scratches are from traveling. These coffins have been moving a lot so it's only natural that something would happen. It's also unlikely that Terzo would survive traveling in the coffins and travel cases we see near the end of chapter 3. However, Terzo's coffin is the only one with scratches on it. And if intentional, having scratches on the coffin with the only brother to have clawed gloves is damning evidence. Plus, resurrection has been proven possible in the live shows with Papa Nihil.

Resurrecting Terzo also makes a lot of sense. He's not only a beloved Papa among fans but also the one credited with launching Ghost into popularity with Grammy wins. Assuming Cape Town's theme of revenge, Terzo has more than enough reasons to resent the ministry, and more importantly, Sister for forcing him to retire and picking a replacement he may have thought was unworthy. Out of spite, he may have picked a new name, one that made fun of Sister Imperator. However, if Sister had a say in choosing the next Papa, this is unlikely.

Honorable Mentions (Primo Is Papa V)

I wanted to put the possibility of Primo on here so no brothers were excluded. Tobias has stated that he gets nostalgic for performing before phones (which would've been pre-ghost, Primo era, and maybe the Secondo era), and as we have seen there will be no phones allowed on the new tour, so this could be a show that shows new fans what it was like in the beginning. "Satanized" would fit his music and the chrome could be a callback to the rhinestones on his Papa hat, I don't see this happening. Largely because there isn't much footage of him, meaning it's hard for newer fans like myself to get attached to him.

I have also seen some suggesting Mary Goore could be the new papa. This would be cool, and implied from Cape Town having themes about your past coming back. But I'm sure it wouldn't go over well with the other band members.

There's a New Guy(?) in Town.

This section will cover contenders for Papa outside of the Emeritus Brothers.

Papa V is a woman

I really, really want this to be canon. I think a female Papa would be super cool and could imply Mr. Ghost performing in drag. After doing some digging for this blog, I don't think this is true, but I want to put it here nonetheless. Also, this can work separately or with the twin theory.

For starters, Perpetua is a very feminine name, more so than Copia (which is a feminine noun in Latin). And with Perpetua being the patron saint of mothers and a woman herself, it would make sense for a Papa based on her to be a woman as well.

This theory falls apart with the only character who we can infer knows who Papa V is, Sister Imperator. If we assume the new papa was chosen before the Re-Imperatour, or just before Copia's last show, Sister would've been alive and as the head of the ministry, she would have picked the next Papa. But how does this stop Papa V from being a woman? Well, in the post-credits scene for Rite Here Rite Now sister says "Here he comes." This implies that the new Papa is male. After her death sister was no longer in charge of the ministry, which means that if the ministry so pleased they could have pulled a switch-a-roo at the last minute and have a different Papa. But seeing as she radios Mr. Salterian and he answers her, I don't think they would have done that.

Twin Theory

After watching Rite Here Rite Now, I have to say this theory is my pick. Largely because I feel like it has the most ground to stand on.

In Rite Here Rite Now, after Copia sees sister from the hot air balloon, we get images of sister and Nihil, a pregnant woman, a woman giving birth, then two babies, and two children. One frame that caught my eye was the statue of Romulus and Remus, which possibly implies that Copia's twin will kill Copia, or vice versa. Of course, this scene doesn't happen, as Copia wakes up right after, so it's free to any Retconning or excused from canon. But I think it would not only be disappointing to fans, but it makes no sense to put it in if doesn't mean anything. Unless it was setting up for a papa further down the line, but if so, why show us this now? The last name Perpetua could also be honoring the twin's mother, Sister Imperator.

I think the fact Copia sees flashes of twins when he's knocked out tells us that this is a repressed memory. Either because the ministry wanted it repressed or because Copia's brain didn't think it was important. But the song "Hunter's Moon" has a lot of lyrics that could be foreshadowing if this was the case. Specifically the lyrics "Though my memories have faded, they come back to haunt me once again," and "Under a headstone, sister. I'm dying to see you, my friend." I think the first lyric could be talking about how Copia has been getting these memories in bursts and the second lyric could reference how they could be meeting because of sister's death. It could also be supporting one of the resurrection theories since it specifically says "Under a headstone." This has a lot of holes though, especially since if that line was referencing Copia's repressed memories rising, we would've seen it in the late chapters as well.

Is Papa V going to be the last Papa?

This question comes from the fact that Perpetua also means "everlasting." But I don't think this is going to be our last Papa. One of the many appeals of Ghost is its storytelling, the evolution of the music and papas. Also, Tobias Fordge loves to push the limits, whether it's what classifies as metal or what he can do in concerts, Mr. Ghost pushes it to the limit. So I doubt he would be so willing to retire this idea of an evolving band to just one Papa.

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Papa V theories yapping coming soon

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This also, the new papa looks a LOT like Papa II and they’ve been using Secondo in a lot of promotional stuff (sale announcements and things like that.)

Hi, in your post about 'content droughts' what do you mean by a papa alive announcement? Have I missed something

YES! SO SO SO MANY DID

Papa II is alive.

Papa II has been posted multiple times on Halloween 2024.

Papa II is on all the new ads. Including the current winter sale banner on their merch site.

Heres a gifset of him from Halloween I made.

Papa V is not a thing I don't think. Papa II is back.

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This too!! Especially since the tour poster is a reference to the movie “Cape Fear”, where the tagline is “Sam Bowden has always provided for his family’s future. But the past is coming back to haunt them.”

me trying to convince everyone and myself that Mary IS Perpetua

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This!! Perpétua is also the patron saint of mothers and expectant mothers (among others but I wanted to point these out.) Her story also talks about the cycle of pain and relief in their bosom, (according to Wikipedia, correct me if I’m wrong), so maybe cycles could also be a theme?

Sidenote: A female papa could mean Mr. Ghost in drag, and I would love to see that.

I HAVE A THEORY ON THE NEW PAPA!!!!

Firstly…

Papa V is probably going to be a woman

If you’ve seen the poster and the name drop, Papa V’s name is Perpentua. Perpentua is Italian (and Spanish) for everlasting

Perpentua is also the feminine equivalent of Perpentuo in Italian!!! So, theres a chance that Papa V is going to be female (pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease)

Perpentua is also in the Bible as a Saint. Saint Persentua was a noblewoman and a mother who was executed via beheading.

Talking about beheading

Papa V was a maid/Sister or Sin before becoming Papa???

Perpetua also means “Preist’s housekeeper. Theres a chance that Perpetua was part of the clergy as a maid/sister and maybe had relations with Copia or one of the other Papas. Since there was no heirs to the Papa bloodline, the roll went to them since they were the closest to the bloodline (Queen Elizabeth style)

Terzo is Papa V???

I say as they drag me into the white padded room /j

It’s a but of a stretch since both Perpentua in the Bible and Terzo were beheaded but still! Trans fem Terzo as the new Papa? I’m absolutely here for it.

Papa V isn’t going to take well on being replaced/ is going to be replaced eaily

As I stated before, Perpentua means “everlasting”. It also means “make something perpetual or lasting.”

Knowing that the Papa’s tend to be replaced every two albums, Perpentua isn’t going to be happy about being replaced with someone new. (Especially if they craved the spotlight and/or had past trauma about being replaced hint hint)

Thats it uhhh IM SO EXCITED YAYAYAY!!!

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“Short Skirt Long Jacket” by CAKE is such a Snowby song

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Apartments in Fables (Spoilers)

Felt the need to clarify I haven't finished the main Fables yet, and haven't read any of the other fable comics. As of writing this I am on issue #37 so this is subject to change.

Not to cornplate a franchise that basically ended ten years ago but I think the apartments are really good indirect characterization.

Bigby Wolf

Bigby's apartment is small, the tiniest in Woodlands in fact, it's messy, isolated, and has no room for any sort of fun other then a tiny t.v. and cigarettes (but even that's for a medical reason in the comics). I think it reflects Bigby's place in Fabletown, both as a sheriff and as a citizen. His relationship with the public is messy, constantly walking the line between respected and feared (moreso in TWAU). His apartment is small because he knows not to go over his means or pretend he's anything he isn't. He doesn't try to live in a fantasy like many of the other fables. This apartment is probably the closest thing in Woodlands to a Mundie apartment, and I think that's intentional Bigby is one of the most grounded characters in the comics. His apartment is also filled beer and cigarettes, probably to help drown his senses when he's at home. His apartment is almost the exact opposite of…

Beauty and Beast

This is largely based off of the game, but I think some of the points can apply to the comics too.

Beauty and Beast's home is practically a shrine to their homeland. Money is shown to be tight between them in the comics and in TWAU they go into debt to keep their lifestyle. The decor in their apartment and even the couple themselves are almost begging to be seen as happy and successful. They have a bigger, higher-up apartment because they see themselves as higher. Nobles who can't dare to risk becoming a "lower class." So much so that they were willing to deal with the crooked man. I can't say I've seen much proof of this yet in the comics but I'll edit this post if it comes up.

Ichabod Crane

This is exclusively based off of the game since he isn't really in the main comic.

Ichabold's apartment is full of himself, literally. He has a bust and a portrait of himself. Something that many old great heroes would have. Obviously Ichabold isn't a hero, but he sees himself as one. One who deserves great riches and the girl. But nobody is as obsessed with him as he is, so he has to turn to the only person who would indulge his delusions, himself.

Side note: I'll have to find the issue but at one point Bigby mentions Snow white has "one of those magical rooms" that's bigger on the inside. Much like how behind her professional and cold demeanor she cares a lot and has a lot more to her than the public gets to see in passing. (It's cheesy but you know.)

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Blog intro!

Hello, I’m Colt and this is a side blog (main blog @coltisconfused) for me to yap about my hyperfixations/interests/whatever else.

I’ll probably be yapping about:

• Psychonauts

• The Wolf Among Us

• Ghost (Band)

• Inside Job

• Our Flag Means Death

• Life series

• Belzebubs

And of course anything else that comes to mind. Hope you enjoy my yaps.

!! Proship, Zoophile, etc. DNI !!

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TW Homestuck

So I started reading homestuck around August 2021 (I think) and stopped reading because I had a very busy schedule. But through a friend I've found out homestuck isn't blocked on our school laptops. I've read about ~500 pages in my two days of knowing this (that isn't a lot concidering the length of any pages without diolauge but I still think it's kind of cool.)