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Thank you for the quick summary! Here's my follow-up question: how many months in between do you interpret between the deaths?

Hi again!

To be honest, I don't really have an exact time frame in mind. I know I interpret Cordelia and Caliban dying in the same fire, so their deaths likely occurred within an hour of each other, at most.

The rest of them, however, I believe happened with a bit of a bigger time gap. I think the Monty deaths would have been fairly close together. They wouldn't have been as far back as the fire deaths, but far back enough that it makes sense that most of their surviving relatives' aspiration meters aren't in the red when the game starts.

Contessa, on the other hand I view as occurring fairly recently, but not too recently. My reason for thinking this is that, if she died too recently, then the family-oriented Hermia's aspiration meter would probably be bottomed out when the game starts.

While I believe these deaths occurred within a year of each other, the months are a bit more iffy. I know that I believe months passed between Delia/Cal from Dio/Livia/Hero, and even more months separate the latter group from Tessie, but I can't say for sure about the quantity.

The most reliable method on paper that I could have used was analyzing Goneril and Olivia's pregnancies. Unfortunately, the method isn't too useful in practice because we can't be sure how far along they were when Cordelia and Caliban died, or if they were even pregnant at the time to begin with (though I personally believe they both were). In both cases, the lack of sims who remembers both Ariel's birth and any of the Monty deaths leaves us at a bit of a standstill.

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Hi, thank you for your quick reply! I have another question about your headcanons: can you summarize what the timeline was of the deaths of Claudio and Olivia Monty, Hero Monty, Caliban and Cordula Capp, and finally Contessa Capp? How old were their kids approximately when they died?

Hi again!

I personally interpret the timeline of deaths as follows:

Cordelia

Caliban

Claudio

Olivia

Hero

Contessa

My earliest essays on this blog actually cover this question in greater detail, so I've provided links just in case you, or anyone else is curious. In the years since I first posted them, my interpretations haven't really changed, so everything should be up-to-date.

As for their ages, all four kids named after characters from Romeo & Juliet were teens when these deaths occurred. Conversely, Hermia was still a child when her parents died, but became a teen between then and Contessa's death.

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Hi, what kind of father was Caliban like towards Juliette, Hermia and Tybalt, and what kind of husband was he like towards Cordula? (I assume he's 10+ years older than her)

He lacks a bio, personality points, interests and career. We only know his primary aspiration (Fortune) and zodiac sign (Capricorn).

So I'm curious what headcanon you have about him based on his Shakespearean counterpart.

Hi! I added a read more because it got a tad long. Apologies if some things seem vague, as I do want to talk about certain aspects in greater depth eventually.

From what I saw from his kids' memories, I always assumed that Caliban was fairly present in their lives considering he taught them the majority of their toddler skills. I think he was a pretty good dad to them all things considered, but it took a while for him to really come into his own, as he had some demons to battle early on due to the circumstances he found himself in.

When it comes to his relationship with Cordelia, I tend to veer towards them being genuinely in love. For one thing, they tend to have really good chemistry when they're resurrected, so there's definitely an innate attraction between them. Also, of the three sisters, Cordelia is the only one whose husband doesn't share a name with the one her Shakespeare character had (though I headcanon Caliban's middle name as Francisco to make up for it 😄).

I don't really interpret their age difference being that big (I picture Caliban being around two or so years older), but I can see why you or others might. First, Caliban's default hairstyle could imply he's a bit on the older side, what with it giving the illusion of him having a slightly receding hairline. Second, there's Caliban's age when you look at his SimPE data, which states he was a day away from elderhood when he died. As for me, I tend to interpret both of these things as being a result of stress.

One of my headcanons about Caliban is that Contessa really hated him for marrying Cordelia, who I believe was her favorite child and intended heiress. This is, in part, because I don't think Caliban came from the kind of money the Capps did. Instead, I picture his father as having been an old associate of Valentine Monty, only to have a fallout with Patrizio a few years after the feud began, which led him to relocate to the east side and start a new life. So not only did Caliban not come from the old money Contessa would have liked, but he was also descended from ex-Monty sympathizers. As a result of this, he always constantly felt the need to prove himself to Contessa, though deep down he knew it was a fruitless endeavor. In continuing to do so, he ended up aging much quicker than he otherwise would have.

I always viewed Caliban's professional life starting when he interned as a gofer for the Capps back when he was in school, and that eventually worked for them full time after he became an adult. Despite this, he was confined to the lowest possible rung on the corporate ladder due to Contessa's distaste for him. Every time he complained about it, she would always tell him he was lucky he still had a job after "deflowering" her daughter. Luckily, Cordelia made enough money to support their family, so they were able to live a comfortable life regardless of Caliban's lack of advancement.

With these factors in mind, I don't believe Cordelia and Caliban's marriage was arranged in the ways I believe Goneril's or Regan's marriages were. Instead, I'm of the mind that Cordelia married Caliban for love, but that she only managed to do so because of circumstances out of Contessa's control.

These interpretations were, in part, inspired by Cordelia's marriage to the King of France in King Lear. In that play, France proposes to Cordelia despite her not having a dowry to speak of. While I don't think that Cordelia and Caliban's marriage occurred under those exact circumstances, I do think both men falling for each of their Cordelias played a part in why those marriages occurred. As for the Shakespeare interpretations about Caliban in particular, most of those don't have much to do with his love life.

One of my Caliban headcanons that takes inspiration from Shakespeare relates to his height. I think I eventually settled on him being 6'8", which would make him look pretty massive compared to how I view most of the other sims in Veronaville (for reference, he towered over the 5'2" Cordelia, and all three of their children are more than a foot shorter than he was). In fact, Contessa considered him so monstrously tall that she referred to him as a minotaur. The Shakespearean aspects that reflects this comes from Shakespeare's take on Caliban being compared to a variety of animals in appearance. These isn't the Sims really replicated, so I just did my own spin on it instead.

Unfortunately, I don't have access to my simming laptop at the moment, so I don't have a way to check the exact personality I gave Caliban in my photoshoot neighborhood. I don't have many fleshed-out headcanons about Caliban's interests, but I definitely think he was interested in money, but disinterested in work (or at least talking about it with others).

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[cornyregans]

I love you guys so much 🤍

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I really like Corny x Regan too, somehow they keep having wants for each other even though they're Fortune sims, and it seems to be something that often happens even after booting up a new Veronaville? Love me some Cornyregans <3

Hi! Apologies for taking so long to answer this, life's been busy.

Honestly, everything that you described is part of the reason they appeal to me as well. I've always enjoyed them, but I gained a whole new love for them once I realized just how sickeningly lovey-dovey they can be.

In the base game and Uni, you need to put some effort into their relationship. That said, the two do start the game off as best friends, so it's most likely that the game is trying to paint them as too busy with work to be intimate with each other (which is reinforced by their household bio). The dynamic can shift to a romantic one with only these two packs installed, but you have to put in more work than you would with later EPs installed.

I think from Nightlife onwards, the chemistry mechanic takes over, and they're more often than not three-bolters in my game due to their similar personalities, aspirations, and possibly their turn-ons/offs being compatible. I remember one hilarious example of their PDA occurring when I had the Summerdreams throw a party. Even though some Montys also made an appearance, both Regan and Cornwall seemed more content to interact with each other in the hot tub than to throw hands with the enemy family.

If I had to guess, the initial lack of romantic spark might be a reference to King Lear, particularly when it comes to Regan's interest in Edmund of Gloucester. While I understand this on the surface, looking closely at the finer details of Shakespeare's play shows that Regan only expresses interest in Edmund once Cornwall is dead.

Prior to the Duke of Cornwall's murder, he and Regan actually got along very well. They both have similar motivations, and they seems to harbor a mutual respect for one another. Not to mention, unlike Goneril, who is unhappily married to the soft-hearted Albany, Regan's interest in Edmund doesn't come across as one of desire, but rather one of convenience. Edmund's a single man who has just inherited his family's estate, and Regan is recently widowed, so a marriage between the two of them would be beneficial for both parties. Had Cornwall not been killed at the end of the third act, I have little doubt that Regan wouldn't spare Edmund a second thought.

[cornyregans]

Hi Cornyregans, I'm curious: what MBTI, enneagram wings (XwY) and temperaments (phlegmatic/choleric/melancholic/sanguine) would you assign to the Veronaville Teens based on their aspirations and personality scores and possibly also Shakesperean references?

Hi! I added a read more because my response got long.

Tbh, I don't really have a concrete answer to these questions. Mostly because I think they each take certain aspects from different things. The MBTIs, especially, are something I sort of struggle with determining, mostly because of how many possibilities there are. Like, I definitely see Tybalt, Mercutio, Romeo, Juliette, and maybe Miranda as more extroverted, whereas Puck and Hermia are more introverted. I think the F and Ts in MBTI refer to whether someone is more logical or emotional, and I feel like, as a whole, the boys gravitate more towards emotion, whereas the girls are more logical.

Of each of these concepts, the enneagram wings are the most foreign to me. I'm familiar with the most basic concepts (mostly because I've played the Zero Escape series, and the first game's main characters were all based on different enneagram types), but other than that I'm kind of at a loss. I'll probably study the concepts more and let the ideas ruminate, and maybe I'll post it as a Headcanon Humpday in the future.

Unlike the other two, I do have more definitive ideas about their temperaments. Hermia definitely strikes me as melancholic, Juliette is pretty sanguine, and Tybalt is a bit choleric. I feel like Mercutio and Romeo are pretty sanguine, but Romeo has some phlegmatic tendencies, whereas Mercutio has some choleric ones. Puck strikes me as phlegmatic, but he's prone to being a bit melancholic at times. As for Miranda, she's pretty similar to Romeo, but a tad bit more phlegmatic in comparison.

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GVGP: Capp & Monty 4

Having covered every sim in this group, let’s review our findings.

Similar to the previous two summaries, all information for each sim is split into several charts. Like in the individual entries, everything is color-coded, and I will give a special mention to any oddities found in a sim’s genetic code when they come up.

Genetic Profiles

Capp

Skintone

Oddity 1: Cornwall's Skintone

Cornwall's skintone makes perfect sense because he shares it with his mother. That said, his father's slightly darker complexion requires hypothetical genetics to make sense with the parents he has.

Oddity 2: Goneril's Unrecognized Skintone

Like her mother, Goneril's skintone was unrecognized by the game during the title's early days. Luckily, both sims have since had their data corrected, so Goneril's skintone now makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

Oddity 3: Albany's Blond Hair

Despite Albany having blond hair, both of his parents had dominant hair colors. Thankfully, two of Albany's grandparents also had blond(e) hair, so we can assume that the trait skipped a generation.

Oddity 4: Goneril's Hair Colors

Unlike her husband, Goneril's hair color is a hot mess. While she has brown hair in-game, it doesn't make any sense when we take her genetic history into account. The red hair listed in SimPE, on the other hand, does make sense in spite of her paternal grandparents' similarly faulty phenotypes.

Eye Color

Oddity 5: Albany's Green Eyes

Albany's green eyes are similar to Goneril's red hair, in that they likely skipped a generation (or possibly two, in Goneril's case). Additionally, they're both descended from sims who were programmed with contradictory dominant traits.

Oddity 6: Cordelia and Caliban's Corrupt Faces

One of the side effects of having a corrupt face is that a sim displays brown eyes in their headshots, regardless of what's actually in their genetic code. Even if her brown eyes were genuine, they wouldn't make sense when looking at Cordelia's two grey-eyed parents. As for Caliban, brown eyes could work on him, but Prospero Gale would have needed to possess a hypothetical allele to explain them.

Oddity 7: Capp Daughters' Grey Eyes

When looking at their genetic profiles and implementing hypothetical genetics when appropriate, all three daughters' eye colors make perfect sense. That said, hypothetical genetics are essential on Consort's side of the family tree, as the trait appears to have spontaneously appeared in his genetic code.

Oddity 8: Cornwall's Grey Eyes

Cornwall is the son of two dominant, dark blue-eyed parents, but him having recessive grey eyes isn't completely outside the realm of possibility. When looking at his family tree, Cornwall's eye color can be explained by assuming Hamlet Jr. passed down a recessive grey allele he inherited from his father, and Tobea passed down a recessive allele she received from her mother.

Oddity 9: Kent's Light Blue Eyes

Like Albany's blond hair, Kent's light blue eyes make sense if we assume they skipped a generation or two. Despite having two grey-eyed parents, Kent has ancestors on both sides of his family tree who could have supplied him with the proper allele (Octavius Capp on Contessa's side, and either Queen Thebe or Hecuba Albion on Consort's).

Monty

Skintone

Oddity 10: Olivia's Skintone

Olivia is the S3 daughter of two S2 parents. As such, we would need to assume that Dull Dottore passed an S3 allele down to his son Holofernes for Olivia's skintone to make sense.

Hair Color

Oddity 11: ABC Monty Hair Nonsense

The Monty family has long had a history of contradictory hair colors. Of the ABC Montys's grandparents, only their paternal grandmother has a perfectly explainable hair color. Both grandfathers are programmed with black hair; however, they each have one parent with brown hair, and another with a recessive hair color. Even more glaring, there's their maternal grandmother, who has brown hair despite having parents with recessive hair colors. This conundrum is made even more complicated in the next generation, as both Patrizio and Isabella have two possible hair colors. In Patrizio's case, storytelling images show him having black hair, whereas SimPE and The Sims 3 both show him as a brunet. Meanwhile, SimPE lists Isabella as a blonde, yet The Sims 3 portrays her as a brunette. With the ABC Montys in mind, we now know that Patrizio definitely has a black allele in his genetic code; however, we can't say for sure whether it was expressed. With black and brown hair both being dominant, Patrizio could have passed down either one; if that were the case, then it would have been a coin flip as to which kid ended up with which allele. As for Isabella, her offsprings' hair colors fail to rule out whether she had dominant or recessive hair.

Oddity 12: Olivia's Blonde Hair

Unlike the ABC Montys, Olivia's blonde hair is easier to explain. While Olivia shares her hair color with her mom, the latter's blonde tresses spontaneously appeared; however, given that Judith had two red-haired parents, one of them could have had a hypothetical gene in their genetic code. Olivia's father's side of the family tree is instead littered with black-haired sims; however, one of her paternal grandparents could have easily passed down a hypothetical recessive allele to her father.

Eye Color

Oddity 13: Claudio's Light Blue Eyes

Claudio's eye color is yet another case of spontaneously appearing traits occurring in Veronaville. In this case, we can narrow down the source of Claudio's phantom trait to Proteus Pantalone, who would have needed a recessive allele in order to explain his son Vincentio's grey eyes.

As a Whole

Skintone

Hair Color

Eye Color

As a Whole

Planned Additional Essays

In terms of any additional essays I'm planning to write on this group, I do have some things in the works.

As I mentioned in both Cornwall and Regan's entries, the two of them will be mentioned in a special essay down the line. That said, I'll save the details for when I post it (though, you might be able to guess what it's about if you browse my previous Veronaville Vault entries).

Another essay I want to write has to do with the Monty family's weird hair genetics. That said, I want to finish all of that family's genetic profiles before I touch it, as it will contain spoilers.

The final essay I have on my to-do list has to do with Olivia Monty, and how certain sources might help to explain her genetic oddities without incorporating hypothetical genetics.

Before writing this batch, I also had another essay in mind; however, I ended up incorporating the bulk of it in Claudio's genetic profile, and the rest will be brought up in the next batch.

Speaking of which...

Who's Next

The RNG gods have decided that Mercutio will be the first sim up in our next group, unless anyone wants to expedite another sim's genetic profile. I don't know when the next entry will be posted, but I've made a dent in a few of them, so hopefully the next batch won't take another two years to finish.

Thank you so much for reading the GVGP so far. With this group down, we're approaching the homestretch of part 1. Once the next batch of entries is completed, all the Capps and Montys will have their genetic profiles shared, and we can move on to the Summerdreams.

Once again, thank you so much for reading!~ <3

[cornyregans]

GVGP Profile: Goneril Capp

We've covered 11 sims in this group so far. Last, but certainly not least, is Goneril Capp.

When it comes to her ancestry, Goneril is the daughter of Contessa and Consort Capp and, by extension, the sister of Regan, Kent, and the late Cordelia Capp. Her grandparents include Scribonia and Octavius Capp, as well as Andromache and Hector Thebe. Finally, Goneril's great-grandparents are Cleopatra and Antony Capp, Calpurnia and Julius Caesar, Eetion and Queen Thebe, and Hecuba and Priam Albion.

Goneril Capp's Genetic Profile

Goneril and her husband Albany have four children together. As a result, she will be present in all four of her offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

As mentioned in the GVGP’s introduction, both Goneril and Contessa were initially programmed with unrecognizable skintones. This particular error is one that would have caused to them potentially produce children with any complexion, regardless of their genetic histories. Thankfully, this has since been fixed, and Goneril’s skintone now makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

When looking at her parents’ individual genetic profiles, we have already determined that Consort and Contessa both work as natural blondes. As a result, Goneril’s brown hair doesn’t make any sense. If Goneril was the biological child of both Contessa and Consort, then she couldn’t have a naturally dominant hair color with two recessive parents.

Option 1: Brown!Goneril with two blond(e) parents

So, if Goneril was Contessa and Consort’s biological daughter, then what is her natural hair color? Well, a quick look at her SimPE data shows that she’s actually programmed with red hair.

Option 2: Red!Goneril with two blond(e) parents

In The Sims 2, it’s possible for two blond(e) sims to produce a red-haired child, provided one of them has the proper gene in their genetic code. In Goneril’s case, her only red-haired ancestor that the player can identify was her great-grandmother, Queen Thebe.

Goneril's Great-Grandparents via Consort Capp

For Goneril to inherit Queen’s allele, the latter sim would have needed to pass the gene down to her daughter Andromache, who would pass her allele down to her son Consort. If Consort has a red allele in his genetic profile, and he passed it down to Goneril, then she could be a natural redhead without any hypothetical red alleles on Contessa’s part.

Eye Color

Goneril’s grey eyes make perfect sense, as she shares her eye color with both parents. That said, when looking at her family tree as a whole, their journey getting to her requires some hypothetical genetics on both sides.

Goneril's Great-Grandparents via Contessa Capp

Contessa Capp's Visual Profile

On her mother’s side of the family tree, both Cleopatra and Antony would need to possess a hypothetical recessive allele in their genetic codes, and at least one of them would have to be grey to explain Scribonia’s eye color. Also, while some hypothetical genetics are required to explain Octavius’s light blue eyes, the fact remains that Julius’s grey eyes more than explain how Octavius could have potentially passed a grey allele down to Contessa.

Consort Capp's Visual Profile (his grandparents' visual profiles are further up on this page)

Her father’s side of the family tree is comparatively more complicated. In Consort’s case, he is the first one in his family to exhibit the trait, as all of his ancestors had either brown, light blue, or green eyes. As a result, you would need to come up with the right hypotheticals for each of his ancestors (other than Eetion, who can get away with not having his profile touched). In short, you would need to determine which of Queen, Hecuba, and Priam possessed alleles for green and grey eyes in their genetic codes, leading to three potential options that can explain how Consort, and by extension Goneril, could end up with grey eyes.

Table A: Eye genotype options for Consort’s grandparents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

Table B: Eye genotype options for Consort’s parents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

From what's shown in the tables above, Hecuba Albion is ultimately the key to explaining everything, as she's the only sim who could hypothetically possess any of the three recessive alleles in her genetic code. If Hecuba was homozygous for light blue eyes, then Priam would need a green allele to explain Hector's eye color, which leaves Queen as the only sim who could pass down a grey allele to Consort. If this was the case, then we could definitively say that Consort inherited his grey eyes from Andromache.

On the other hand, Hecuba being heterozygous with an unexpressed green or grey allele means that Priam would pick up the remaining gene, and Queen Thebe would be homozygous. If this was the case, then Hector would have been the one who passed the grey allele down.

As a Whole

Goneril Capp's filled out genetic profile. Two generations worth of unrecognized skintones have since been patched, so now both Contessa's and Goneril's complexions make perfect sense. Her eye color makes sense with hypothetical genetics on both sides of her family tree. Finally, Goneril's in-game hair color is inconsistent with her ancestry; however, the hair color listed in SimPE makes perfect sense if we assume it skipped a generation or two (since Andromache's brown hair is similarly contradictory, and she could have just as easily made sense a natural blonde).

Who's Next?

Now that we've finished covering every sim in this group, we're going to move on to summarizing everything. Once that's done, I'll announce the order for the next batch of sims.

Thank you for reading!~ <3

[cornyregans]

GVGP Profile: Regan Capp

Having covered all the Montys, in-laws, and males from this group, we only have two ladies left. Of the sims remaining, we're going to begin with the younger of the two -- Regan Capp.

When it comes to her ancestry, Regan is the daughter of Contessa and Consort Capp and, by extension, the sister of Goneril, Kent, and the late Cordelia Capp. Her grandparents include Scribonia and Octavius Capp, as well as Andromache and Hector Thebe. Finally, Regan's great-grandparents are Cleopatra and Antony Capp, Calpurnia and Julius Caesar, Eetion and Queen Thebe, and Hecuba and Priam Albion.

Regan Capp's Genetic Profile

Regan Capp's Visual Profile

Like her brother and Bianca Monty, Regan is childless when the game starts. Unlike the former two sims, however, there is evidence that she and her husband Cornwall were meant to be parents earlier in development. As such, Regan’s genetic profile will be mentioned in a special essay later on.

Skintone

As the child of parents who are both visually presented as S1, Regan having an S1 skintone makes perfect sense. While there was an issue early in the game’s lifespan regarding Contessa’s skintone being unrecognized, the fact remains that Consort’s recognizable S1 complexion is more than enough to justify Regan inheriting it.

Hair Color

When looking at her parents’ individual genetic profiles, we have already determined that Consort and Contessa both make sense as natural blond(e)s. As a result, Regan’s blonde hair also makes perfect sense.

Eye Color

Regan’s grey eyes make perfect sense, as she shares her eye color with both parents. That said, when looking at her family tree as a whole, their journey getting to her requires some hypothetical genetics on both sides.

Regan's Great-Grandparents via Contessa Capp

Contessa Capp's Visual Profile

On her mother’s side of the family tree, both Cleopatra and Antony would need to possess a hypothetical recessive allele in their genetic codes, and at least one of them would have to be grey to explain Scribonia’s eye color. Also, while some hypothetical genetics are required to explain Octavius’s light blue eyes, the fact remains that Julius’s grey eyes more than explain how Octavius could have potentially passed a grey allele down to Contessa.

Regan's Great-Grandparents via Consort Capp

Consort Capp's Visual Profile

Her father’s side of the family tree is comparatively more complicated. In Consort’s case, he is the first one in his family to exhibit the trait, as all of his ancestors had either brown, light blue, or green eyes. As a result, you would need to come up with the right hypotheticals for each of his ancestors (other than Eetion, who can get away with not having his profile touched). In short, you would need to determine which of Queen, Hecuba, and Priam possessed alleles for green and grey eyes in their codes, leading to three potential options that can explain how Consort, and by extension Regan, could end up with grey eyes.

Table A: Eye genotype options for Consort’s grandparents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

Table B: Eye genotype options for Consort’s parents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

From what's shown in the tables above, Hecuba Albion is ultimately the key to explaining everything, as she's the only sim who could hypothetically possess any of the three recessive alleles in her genetic code. If Hecuba was homozygous for light blue eyes, then Priam would need a green allele to explain Hector's eye color, which leaves Queen as the only sim who could pass down a grey allele to Consort. If this was the case, then we could definitively say that Consort inherited his grey eyes from Andromache.

On the other hand, Hecuba being heterozygous with an unexpressed green or grey allele means that Priam would pick up the remaining gene, and Queen Thebe would be homozygous. If this was the case, then Hector would have been the one who passed the grey allele down.

As a Whole

Regan Capp's filled out genetic profile. Her complexion makes perfect sense in spite of Contessa's pre-patched unrecognized skintone. When it comes to her hair and grey eyes, both make sense if hypothetical genetics were incorporated earlier in her ancestry.

Who's Next?

It's Goneril. She's the only one in this group who hasn't been covered yet, so it can't be anyone else.

Thank you for reading!~ <3

[cornyregans]

GVGP Profile: Kent Capp

Every Monty in this batch has been covered, so now it's time to cover the remaining Capps. Of the three sims left to go over, we're starting off with the only one not named after one of King Lear's daughters -- Kent.

When it comes to his ancestry, Kent is the only son of Contessa and Consort Capp and, by extension, the brother of Goneril, Regan, and the late Cordelia Capp. His grandparents include Scribonia and Octavius Capp, as well as Andromache and Hector Thebe. Finally, Kent's great-grandparents are Cleopatra and Antony Capp, Calpurnia and Julius Caesar, Eetion and Queen Thebe, and Hecuba and Priam Albion.

Kent Capp's Genetic Profile

Kent Capp's Visual Profile

Much like Bianca Monty, Kent has no children of his own when the game starts, and there isn't any indication that this was any different earlier in development. As such, he won’t be present in any further entries unless I feel the need to highlight specific aspects of his genetic code.

Skintone

As the child of parents who are both visually presented as S1, Kent having an S1 skintone makes perfect sense. While there was an issue early in the game’s lifespan regarding Contessa’s skintone being unrecognized, the fact remains that Consort’s recognizable S1 complexion is more than enough to justify Kent inheriting it.

Hair Color

When looking at his parents’ individual genetic profiles, we have already determined that Consort and Contessa both make sense as natural blond(e)s. As a result, Kent’s blond hair also makes perfect sense (even though he's bald).

Eye Color

Despite neither of his parents having light blue eyes, Kent’s eye color makes perfect sense when you look back at his family tree.

Kent's Great-Grandparents via Contessa Capp

Contessa Capp's Visual Profile

If Contessa had a light blue allele in her genetic code, then it most likely came from her father — Octavius. If you believe that Octavius was directly descended from Calpurnia and Julius Caesar, then at least one of them would have needed a hypothetical light blue allele in their genetic codes. Of the two, theorizing that Calpurnia was the one with the light blue allele would incorporate fewer hypothetical genetics than Julius due to the former having a dominant eye color. If Calpurnia’s eyes were homozygous, then none of her descendants’ eye colors would make a lick of sense; however, a homozygous Julius wouldn’t contradict anything. This would allow Calpurnia to pass down a light blue allele to Octavius, who could pass one down to Contessa.

Kent's Great-Grandparents via Consort Capp

Consort Capp's Visual Profile

In Consort’s case, he could have inherited a light blue allele from either of his grandmothers. With that in mind, only one of Queen Thebe or Hecuba Albion would be able to pass down the gene, as both of them passing it down would contradict both Hector’s green eyes and Consort’s grey eyes. If Queen Thebe was the one who passed down the light blue allele, then Hecuba Albion would either need a green or grey allele to explain her descendants’ eye colors, and her husband Priam would need the other one. However, if Hecuba was the one who passed down the light blue allele, then Queen would need to have a grey allele for Consort’s eye color to make sense. Either way, one of Queen or Hecuba would have passed down a light blue allele to their child, who would pass their allele down to Consort.

Table A: Eye genotype options for Consort’s grandparents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

Table B: Eye genotype options for Consort’s parents using as few hypothetical genetics as possible.

When looking at Kent’s family tree in its entirety, he could either be homozygous or heterozygous for light blue eyes. If he was homozygous, then both Contessa and Consort would both have a recessive light blue eye alleles in their genetic codes. At the same time, Kent being heterozygous doesn’t automatically mean that only one of his parents possesses a light blue eye allele, since only one is required for Kent to have light blue eyes.

As a Whole

Kent Capp's filled out genetic profile. His complexion makes perfect sense in spite of Contessa's pre-patched unrecognized skintone. His hair color makes sense if hypothetical genetics were incorporated earlier in his ancestry. Finally, Kent's light blue eyes make sense if we assume they weren't expressed for a generation (on Contessa's side) or two (on Consort's side).

Who's Next?

With all the men in this batch covered, we only have two ladies left. Our penultimate entry in this group is the only remaining sim who wears glasses -- Regan Capp.

Thank you for reading!~ <3

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GVGP Profile: Hero Monty

Having just gone over the final Capp in-law, we're moving on to the final Monty in-law. It's time for us to cover the only sim in this batch who lacks character data -- Hero Monty.

Hero’s family tree shows that her ancestors were part of the “new blood” brigade. This means that, despite being counted among the fourth generation gang, she’s technically a third generation sim within her birth family. In terms of ancestry, Hero is the daughter of Trinculo and Maria Arlecchino, as well as the granddaughter of Stephano and Quickley Arlecchino, and Petruchio and Katharina Amantes.

Hero Monty's Genetic Profile

Hero Monty's Visual Profile

Before her untimely death, Hero was married to Antonio Monty, and they had two children. As such, Hero will be present in her offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

As the daughter of an S2 father and an S3 mother, Hero’s S3 skintone makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

As the daughter of a black-haired father and a brunette mother, Hero’s black hair makes perfect sense. Given that her maternal grandfather also had black hair, there’s a strong possibility that Hero may have been homozygous for the trait.

Eye Color

Hero has two brown-eyed parents. As such, her brown eyes make perfect sense.

As a Whole

Hero Monty's filled out genetic profile. According to this table, Hero's skintone, hair color, and eye color all make sense when taking her genetic history into account.

Who's Next?

With all the ABC Montys, in-laws, and deceased sims out of the way, the only sims left to cover are the living Lear Capps. Next time, we're going to cover the final knowledge sim in this batch -- Kent Capp.

Thanks for reading!~ <3

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GVGP Profile: Albany Capp

Having finished what is, so far, the most verbose profile in the GVGP, we're moving on to something a tad more succinct. This time, we're covering the sim in this batch who fathered the most children -- Albany Capp.

Albany’s family tree shows that his ancestors were part of the “new blood” brigade. This means that, despite being counted among the fourth generation gang, he’s technically a third generation sim within his birth family. In terms of ancestry, Albany is the son of Richard and Anne Norman, as well as the grandson of William and Mathilde Norman, and Henry and Eleanor Anjou.

Albany Capp's Genetic Profile

Albany Capp's Visual Profile

Having fathered four children with his wife, Goneril, Albany will be present in each of his offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

As the son of an S2 father and an S1 mother, Albany’s S1 skintone makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

Albany is the blond son of a black-haired father and a brunette mother. That said, the fact that blond(e) hair is present on both sides of his family tree means that Albany’s hair color makes sense, provided both of his parents had recessive alleles in their genetic codes.

Albany's Grandparents

The source of the blond(e) allele among Albany’s paternal ancestors is William Norman, who passed his allele down to Richard, which was then passed down to Albany. As for his maternal ancestors, the source in this case would be Eleanor Anjou, who passed her allele down to Anne, which was then passed down to Albany.

Eye Color

Much like his hair genetics, Albany’s eye genetics skipped a generation. Unlike his hair genetics, Albany’s ancestors’ eye colors are almost all recessive, and the only dominant one doesn’t make any sense (*cough* Anne *cough*).

On both sides of Albany’s family tree, it’s his grandmother who initially carried the gene for green eyes. That said, because Albany’s family history is filled with recessive eye colors, only one of his grandmothers would have needed to pass the allele down to him. If, however, both of them passed it down, then Albany would be homozygous for the trait.

As a Whole

Albany's filled out genetic profile. His skintone makes perfect sense, while his hair and eye colors both make sense if we assume they just weren't expressed for a generation (this is in spite of Anne's faulty dark blue eyes, by the way).

Who's Next?

Having covered the final sim who married into the Capp family, our next entry will cover the final sim who married into the Monty family. Next time, we're going to look at the only deceased sim who hasn't been covered yet -- Hero Monty.

Thank you for reading!~ <3

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GVGP Profile: Claudio Monty

With Olivia Monty's entry done, it's now time for us to talk about her husband -- Claudio.

When it comes to his ancestry, Claudio is the deceased son of Patrizio and Isabella Monty, as well as the brother of Antonio and Bianca Monty. His grandparents include Valentine and Silvia Monty, as well as Vincentio and Francisca Pantalone. Finally, Claudio's great-grandparents are Bassanio and Portia Monty, Angelo and Mariana Capitano, Proteus and Julia Pantalone, and Lucio and Overdone Zanni.

Claudio Monty's Genetic Profile

Before his untimely death, Claudio was married to Olivia Monty, and they had two children, with a third on the way. As such, Claudio will be present in his offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

As the son of two S3 parents, Claudio’s S3 skintone makes perfect sense.

Hair Color

If you’ve already read through Patrizio and Isabella’s genetic profiles, you'd know that their hair genetics are a mess. In Patrizio’s case, it’s due to contradictory sources, one where he has black hair, and one where he’s a brunet. While both of these hair colors can work, the brunet option is more situational, as we can't truly ascertain what Valentine and Portia Monty's genotypes truly were.

Claudio's Great-Grandparents via Patrizio Monty

SimPE lists Isabella as a blonde, but you will often find her depicted as a brunette (both by fans and in TS3). Unlike Patrizio, Isabella’s problem lies more with her parents’ faulty hair colors (specifically her mother’s). Much like Valentine, Vincentio Pantalone's headshot shows him with black hair despite having one brunet parent, and one with a recessive hair color. Conversely, Francisca has dominant brown hair in her headshot, yet both Lucio and Overdone Zanni had recessive hair colors.

Claudio's Great-Grandparents via Isabella Monty

As you’ve probably figured out, this whole hair thing is incredibly complicated. That said, in the interest of keeping this entry as short as possible, I’m only going to focus on how the following hair combinations affect Claudio’s genetic profile specifically.

Option 1: Black-Haired!Patrizio x Brown-Haired!Isabella: With a black-haired father and a brunette mother, Claudio’s black hair would make sense.

Option 2: Brown-Haired!Patrizio x Brown Haired!Isabella: Claudio’s black hair would only make sense with two brown-haired parents if Patrizio inherited the corresponding allele from his mother.

Option 3: Brown-Haired!Patrizio x Blonde-Haired!Isabella: With a brunet father and a blonde mother, Claudio’s black hair would only make sense if Patrizio received an allele for black hair from his mother.

Option 1: Black-Haired!Patrizio x Blonde-Haired!Isabella: With a black-haired father and a blonde mother, Claudio’s black hair would make sense.

Eye Color

Much like Consort Capp, Claudio is the victim of having an eye color that appeared spontaneously. Claudio’s ancestry consists of sims with brown, grey, and dark blue eyes; however, Claudio has light blue eyes. Of the known eye colors in his genetic history, the only recessive eye color is grey; however, only three of his ancestors were programmed with this specific gene.

On Patrizio’s side of the family tree, the only sim with grey eyes is Bassanio Monty. While we can’t say for sure if he was homozygous or heterozygous, we do know that he passed down a recessive allele to his son Valentine, who passed his down to Patrizio.

As for Isabella, both her father and paternal grandmother had grey eyes. In this case, Julia would have passed her recessive allele down to Vincentio, who passed it down to Isabella. That said, Vincentio couldn’t have had grey eyes if Proteus Pantalone was homozygous for dark blue eyes, so the latter sim would have needed a hypothetical recessive allele to justify this.

With these factors in mind, Claudio’s light blue eyes aren’t completely impossible. That being said, one of his great-grandparents would have needed to possess the proper phantom allele. Unlike with Consort, where there are multiple possibilities that can only be narrowed down so much, Claudio’s can be narrowed down to one sim.

Of his great-grandparents, the only one who couldn’t have passed down a light blue allele, not even with hypothetical genetics, is Portia Monty. As we’ve already discussed, Bassanio’s recessive eye color means Portia is the only sim who could have passed down a dominant allele to her brown-eyed son.

Valentine Monty's Visual Profile

With Portia eliminated, we can remove four more sims. All of Patrizio and Isabella’s maternal ancestors had brown eyes. As a result, the Capitanos and Zannis could all pass down exclusively dominant alleles, and the Monty family tree wouldn’t be any worse off. Not only that, but these exclusively brown-eyed ancestors perfectly explain how Patrizio and Isabella could be heterozygous for brown eyes, meaning Claudio's recessive alleles would have come from the Monty and Pantalone lines.

Silvia Monty's Visual Profile

Francisca Pantalone's Visual Profile

Now we’re left with only the Monty and Pantalone lines. We’ve already debunked Portia through a process of elimination, so we’re left with three sims — Bassanio Monty, and Proteus and Julia Pantalone. Of the three, the first sim we can remove from the list would be Julia. If Julia had a light blue allele, then it would mean that Proteus’s recessive allele would need to be grey to explain Vincentio’s eye color. While this situation is plausible, it’s not the option that uses the fewest hypothetical genetics.

Vincentio Pantalone's Visual Profile

This leaves us with Bassanio and Proteus as potential sources for the light blue allele. While both could have realistically had the gene, only one is needed to explain Claudio’s eye color. Of the two, however, the option that uses the fewest hypothetical genetics would be to assume that Proteus was the one who initially possessed the recessive allele. Unlike Bassanio, who could be heterozygous, Proteus would need to be heterozygous to explain how his son, and by extension his great-grandson, could realistically have recessive eye colors.

As a Whole

Claudio Monty's filled out genetic profile. As you can see, his skintone makes perfect sense when taking his genetic history into account. Unfortunately, the same cannot be said for his hair color, which makes sense on the surface, but has too many tangled webs to properly unweave. Finally, Claudio's eye color is a happy medium, as it makes sense with hypothetical genetics; however, the journey to deciphering the source is rather tedious.

Who's Next?

With all the ABC Montys out of the way, our next entry is going to cover the final sim to marry into the Capp family -- Albany Capp.

Thank you for reading!~ <3

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GVGP Profile: Olivia Monty

Having finished covering Juliette's mom, this entry is going to focus on her other half's mom -- Olivia.

Olivia’s family tree shows that her ancestors were part of the “new blood” brigade. This means that, despite being counted among the fourth generation gang, she’s technically a third generation sim within her family. In terms of ancestry, Olivia is the daughter of Holofernes and Judith Dottore, as well as the granddaughter of Dull and Jaquenetta Dottore, and Thurio and Lucetta Brighella.

Olivia Monty's Genetic Profile

Olivia Monty's Visual Profile

Before her untimely death, Olivia was married to Claudio Monty, and they had two children, with a third on the way. As such, Olivia will be present in her offsprings' genetic profiles, and will be given a mention whenever necessary.

Skintone

Olivia’s S3 skintone isn’t shared with her S2 parents. Despite this difference, her complexion still makes sense because sims in TS2 have both a dominant and recessive skintone. While both of Olivia’s parents are S2, her paternal grandfather, Dull Dottore, possessed a dominant S3 skintone. This trait was passed down to her father (though not expressed), and she eventually inherited it as a dominant gene.

Hair Color

Olivia inherited her mother’s blonde hair. Despite this, hypothetical genetics on both sides of her family tree are required for her hair color to make sense.

Olivia's Grandparents

While Judith Dottore is programmed with blonde hair, both of Judith’s parents are programmed to have red hair. As such, one of Olivia’s maternal grandparents would have needed a recessive blond(e) allele to explain Judith’s, and by extension Olivia’s, hair color.

Judith Dottore's Visual Profile

Meanwhile, all of Olivia’s paternal ancestors are programmed to have black hair. As such, one of Dull or Jaquenetta Dottore would have needed a recessive allele in their genetic code, so it could be passed down to Holofernes and Olivia.

Holofernes Dottore's Visual Profile

Depending on the mystery gene’s origin, Olivia could have been either homozygous or heterozygous for blonde hair. That said, one of the alleles passed down to Olivia needs to be blonde for her hair color to make sense.

Eye Color

As the daughter of a brown-eyed father and a dark blue-eyed mother, Olivia’s brown eyes make sense. Given that Olivia’s maternal grandmother also had brown eyes, as did all of her paternal ancestors, it stands to reason that Olivia being homozygous is a definite possibility.

As a Whole

Olivia Monty's filled out genetic profile. Her brown eyes make perfect sense when taking her ancestry into account. Meanwhile, both her skintone (which most likely skipped a generation) and hair color (which spontaneously appeared) require hypothetical genetics to make sense.

Who's Next?

With one half of the deceased Montys down, we have one more to go. Our next entry will cover the final ABC Monty -- Claudio.

Thanks for reading!~ <3

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I'm glad to see you back into the TS2 hyperfocus! Can you share with us what OTHs you find most suited for the Veronaville teens based on their personality traits, interests and Shakesperean references? ^^

Hi! It's great to be back to my TS2 hyperfixation, and hopefully it'll last for a while.

As for the OTHs, the game tends to determine them based on certain personality traits and interests. From looking at SimPE, I figured out that each teen's predestined hobby is as follows:

Hermia: Film & Literature (Shy, Lazy; Entertainment, Culture)

Juliette: Games (Playful, Grouchy; Entertainment)

Mercutio: Nature (Sloppy, Playful; Animals, Environment, Weather)

Miranda: Science (Neat, Serious; Sci-Fi)

Puck: Tinkering (Shy, Nice; Toys)

Romeo: Arts & Crafts (Sloppy, Nice; Fashion Culture)

Tybalt: Music & Dance (Outgoing, Serious; Entertainment, Culture)

When it comes to how I interpret their interests, I have a few ideas. I can see all three Capp girls with music and dance interests, specifically because I put either musical interests or a ballet barre into their rooms. Another point towards Juliette being interested in music and dance, is the fact that she has a stereo in her room when the game starts. As for Hermia, her laptop could point towards an interest in games or tinkering.

Looking at their skillsets, I could also see Mercutio, and especially Tybalt, being interested in both sports and fitness. Tybalt could also be interested in film and literature if we take his TV into account. Like Hermia, one of the Monty brothers also has a computer in his room, so one of them could also be interested in games or tinkering. Another point towards the Monty boys being interested in games would be the game console in the ranch's living room, as we can't be sure when it popped up.

As for Puck, he doesn't really have anything in his room that could point towards a specific hobby. That said, I could see him having an interest in the arts, gaming, and nature.

In terms of Shakespeare references, I could definitely see Puck being interested in games, what with his counterpart being a bit of a trickster in AMSND. By that same token, I could also picture Hermia being interested in nature, as her Shakepeare original and Lysander run off into the woods after Egeus disapproves of their relationship. Miranda could also have an interest in nature, as her Shakespeare inspiration lives on an island with her father in The Tempest. I could also see Romeo and Juliette being interested in music & dance, specifically because their Shakespeare originals met during a masquerade ball. With Mercutio and Tybalt, I could picture them both being sports fans, mostly because their Shakespeare counterparts seem to be interested in sword fighting. Mercutio could also be interested in literature, what with his Queen Mab story.

Thanks so much for the ask!~ <3