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This post is a mulligan that I owe to @confusedguytoo for totally misunderstanding his post yesterday. To be honest I don't know what was going through my head other than my ass but I'm here to talk about them now.
(Supergirl crashing through a stone wall, the public entrance that would bring her into the limelight)
The first being to call itself Supergirl over a prolonged period of time was very mysterious when she first appeared. She seemingly was able to manifest all of Superman's powers, super strength, flight, invulnerability. The kind of powers that would be most noticeable to the naked eye. Especially during the era in which she appeared which was one Metropolis based Crisis after another, the seeming "death" of Lex Luthor and his replacement with his own son (really Lex himself in a cloned body which makes a later part of this story SO much worse), the evident death of Superman, the Reign of the Supermen as various pretenders and followers vied for his legacy, the destruction of Coast City and on and on.
After Superman's seeming death, the Supergirl was his most obvious heir apparent having been a trusted partner and ally who worked most closely with the Man of Steel within Metropolis and...she was dating the at the time, very popular, Lex Luthor II (who remember, is regular Lex Luthor's brain inside a cloned meat suit. EW). She fought alongside his egotastic Luthor Force or whatever the fuck he called it, helped beast back the Cyborg Superman in his deal with alien warlord Mongol and became what seemed to be an integrated part of the superhero community with the potential for a long, distinguished career ahead of her after she finally dumped Lex Luthor's aftermath.
And then she just kind of...vanished.
One moment this Supergirl was there in the skies above Metropolis and in the next the Supergirl we all knew was the younger cousin of Superman rocketed to Earth from Krypton as he had been. For a short time we thought they might be the same woman but the new Supergirl's youth and inexperience didn't bear that out. And well, we were given an explanation.
The 'original' Supergirl was not a being of Earth or Krypton, indeed not a being of this reality at all. She was a being known as Matrix, born in a pocket reality (long story, for all intents, a parallel universe) from a highly advanced living protoplasm infused with Superman's DNA granting Matrix a bevy of potent psychokinetic abilities like telekinesis, shapeshifting and the ability to fire bolts of pure thought energy. Which solves the question of her possibly being a Martian with a big, fat nope.
As for her sudden and disquieting disappearance. She, um, became an angel. Like a biblical one.
Gwen, help me out here?
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G: The being known as Matrix, at some point, became merged with the Earth Angel of Fire, one of 3 angelic beings placed upon the Earth in mortal, human bodies. She maintained her superheroic activities for some time even afterwards but for an unknown reason fully departed the mortal realm and accepted some kind of higher celestial duty.
She is still, as far as we know, active in that sphere and has become an important cornerstone in the use of angelic or celestial energy to counter dark and demonic influence and is considered especially responsive and reasonable for a being of her power most likely because of the core of humanity and human experience within her that has kept her anchored to human morals, concerns and modes of thought.
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Thank you Gwen for bailing me from out of my depth as usual.
There's very little I can add after that. The being we once knew as Supergirl, that those closer to them knew as Matrix, and perhaps went still by other names to those that loved them closest of all has accepted a duty higher than I could possibly contemplate let alone define. We could not pray for a better guardian is all I would say on that matter.
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I wouldn't frame it that way personally, compared to most space-aware species we know of humanity is VERY young
I have a question about the first Supergirl, the one who was supposedly from some sort of alternate reality but before anyone knew about the multiverse or Hypertime. With the powers she displayed was she actually a Martian claiming not to be for some reason?
I will be honest with you and say that I don't know specifically what incident you're referring to. There are actually quite a few young, mysterious women who appeared at an early point in Superman's public career, claimed some kind of distaff Superman mantle and then vanished just as quickly as they shown up.
While we know the general story around some of them, temporary superpowers, magical animates, alien imposters I can't say which of these "first" Supergirls you mean in specific but you do bring up a decent point that I can illustrate using Superman and a martian as a baseline. Why DO Kryptonians and Martians have such similar power profiles?
(Miss Martian's profile image on social media. OOC: myotishi on DA) This has often been a question asked, it has even metastasized into a few small conspiracy theories along the lines of Superman actually secretly being a Martian who shapeshifts to look more "normal" for the benefit of his public image but the coincidence is worth investigating since the Martian shapeshifting ability does raise the idea that they could look like anything if they chose.
From what we know, Kryptonians gain their powers under the light of a yellow sun. Their own planet being both much more massive than earth AND orbiting a weak, dying red star the Kryptonian species developed a biological ability to metabolize sunlight at a much more efficient rate in order to maintain their health under a weaker star. So when exposed to a healthier, more luminous star and a planet under much weaker gravity Kryptonians become stronger, faster and gain the ability to output excess solar energy through their eyes.
Martians, Green Martians specifically (a different story, a different time) seem to gain all of their abilities from the awe inspiring mental mastery that is endemic to their people. All Martians are naturally telepathic but this mental control extends to basically every part of their body. Able to shift their shape and phase through walls via mental control of their own molecular structure, able to fly and lift impossible weights through a mix of that muscular hyper control and their own telekinetic abilities.
The only way to truly tell them apart is either invasive, violent or both. For instance Kryptonians on Earth are weak to the radioactive element known as Kryptonite whereas Martians have a violent physical reaction to open flame. Martians, due to their ability to mask themselves physically and mentally could indeed be basically anyone and anything they wanted. Especially now that the once thought lost Martian civilization has been discovered to be alive and well.
But the paranoia is mostly unfounded. If a lost Martian decided to masquerade as a supergirl for a little while I don't see any problem with that and if we're going to end up living as "neighbors" for the foreseeable future there's going to be some growing pains around the fact that humans can't tell who they're talking to if that person keeps changing their face.
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The Daxamites, we have been told, have similar powers to Kryptonians because they are natives of a different planet within Krypton's solar system
I have a question about the first Supergirl, the one who was supposedly from some sort of alternate reality but before anyone knew about the multiverse or Hypertime. With the powers she displayed was she actually a Martian claiming not to be for some reason?
I will be honest with you and say that I don't know specifically what incident you're referring to. There are actually quite a few young, mysterious women who appeared at an early point in Superman's public career, claimed some kind of distaff Superman mantle and then vanished just as quickly as they shown up.
While we know the general story around some of them, temporary superpowers, magical animates, alien imposters I can't say which of these "first" Supergirls you mean in specific but you do bring up a decent point that I can illustrate using Superman and a martian as a baseline. Why DO Kryptonians and Martians have such similar power profiles?
(Miss Martian's profile image on social media. OOC: myotishi on DA) This has often been a question asked, it has even metastasized into a few small conspiracy theories along the lines of Superman actually secretly being a Martian who shapeshifts to look more "normal" for the benefit of his public image but the coincidence is worth investigating since the Martian shapeshifting ability does raise the idea that they could look like anything if they chose.
From what we know, Kryptonians gain their powers under the light of a yellow sun. Their own planet being both much more massive than earth AND orbiting a weak, dying red star the Kryptonian species developed a biological ability to metabolize sunlight at a much more efficient rate in order to maintain their health under a weaker star. So when exposed to a healthier, more luminous star and a planet under much weaker gravity Kryptonians become stronger, faster and gain the ability to output excess solar energy through their eyes.
Martians, Green Martians specifically (a different story, a different time) seem to gain all of their abilities from the awe inspiring mental mastery that is endemic to their people. All Martians are naturally telepathic but this mental control extends to basically every part of their body. Able to shift their shape and phase through walls via mental control of their own molecular structure, able to fly and lift impossible weights through a mix of that muscular hyper control and their own telekinetic abilities.
The only way to truly tell them apart is either invasive, violent or both. For instance Kryptonians on Earth are weak to the radioactive element known as Kryptonite whereas Martians have a violent physical reaction to open flame. Martians, due to their ability to mask themselves physically and mentally could indeed be basically anyone and anything they wanted. Especially now that the once thought lost Martian civilization has been discovered to be alive and well.
But the paranoia is mostly unfounded. If a lost Martian decided to masquerade as a supergirl for a little while I don't see any problem with that and if we're going to end up living as "neighbors" for the foreseeable future there's going to be some growing pains around the fact that humans can't tell who they're talking to if that person keeps changing their face.
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A concerning amount yes. Many of them (like the mysterious Daxamites that were something of a sister species) because they evolved in similar circumstances but enough others that it seems to be some sort of Darwinian catch all that species tend to progress toward given certain variables
I have a question about the first Supergirl, the one who was supposedly from some sort of alternate reality but before anyone knew about the multiverse or Hypertime. With the powers she displayed was she actually a Martian claiming not to be for some reason?
I will be honest with you and say that I don't know specifically what incident you're referring to. There are actually quite a few young, mysterious women who appeared at an early point in Superman's public career, claimed some kind of distaff Superman mantle and then vanished just as quickly as they shown up.
While we know the general story around some of them, temporary superpowers, magical animates, alien imposters I can't say which of these "first" Supergirls you mean in specific but you do bring up a decent point that I can illustrate using Superman and a martian as a baseline. Why DO Kryptonians and Martians have such similar power profiles?
(Miss Martian's profile image on social media. OOC: myotishi on DA) This has often been a question asked, it has even metastasized into a few small conspiracy theories along the lines of Superman actually secretly being a Martian who shapeshifts to look more "normal" for the benefit of his public image but the coincidence is worth investigating since the Martian shapeshifting ability does raise the idea that they could look like anything if they chose.
From what we know, Kryptonians gain their powers under the light of a yellow sun. Their own planet being both much more massive than earth AND orbiting a weak, dying red star the Kryptonian species developed a biological ability to metabolize sunlight at a much more efficient rate in order to maintain their health under a weaker star. So when exposed to a healthier, more luminous star and a planet under much weaker gravity Kryptonians become stronger, faster and gain the ability to output excess solar energy through their eyes.
Martians, Green Martians specifically (a different story, a different time) seem to gain all of their abilities from the awe inspiring mental mastery that is endemic to their people. All Martians are naturally telepathic but this mental control extends to basically every part of their body. Able to shift their shape and phase through walls via mental control of their own molecular structure, able to fly and lift impossible weights through a mix of that muscular hyper control and their own telekinetic abilities.
The only way to truly tell them apart is either invasive, violent or both. For instance Kryptonians on Earth are weak to the radioactive element known as Kryptonite whereas Martians have a violent physical reaction to open flame. Martians, due to their ability to mask themselves physically and mentally could indeed be basically anyone and anything they wanted. Especially now that the once thought lost Martian civilization has been discovered to be alive and well.
But the paranoia is mostly unfounded. If a lost Martian decided to masquerade as a supergirl for a little while I don't see any problem with that and if we're going to end up living as "neighbors" for the foreseeable future there's going to be some growing pains around the fact that humans can't tell who they're talking to if that person keeps changing their face.
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Yea exile isn't exactly something that exists in the American corpus of law

Um... explain this meme template? I have so many questions. Why is Stephen Amell, star of CW's Valor (a low-budget Black Pirate TV series) posing next to Oliver Queen's tombstone? Is Queen even dead? Last I checked he was alive. And why does the tombstone say Queen is Green Arrow?
Logic would dictate this is a prop from some TV show or film, but why make a prop tombstone for Oliver Queen? And moreover, why pose next to it like that?
Ok so, first thing first just a correction. THAT is not Stephen Amell. The star of CW's Valor. THAT is Grant Gustin, star of Whip Whirlwind. Valor's sister show in CW's "Valorverse" an interconnected universe of TV shows set in the same vague pre-modernish time period that dramatizes a lot of real history of pre modern mystery men and makes the rest of it up. They are cheap though but I liked them for what they were and truly I wish we got more of them in the modern day. I've been missing a lot of really meaty pulp TV I can sink my teeth into for a half dozen seasons in the modern streaming "bingeable" cancelled after 2 10 episode seasons landscape. The gravestone is a MUCH stupider story. See, Oliver Queen IS the Green Arrow and always has been and while that's an accepted fact of life now it was brand new, cutting edge information when this picture was taken. There was a massive news row about it especially due to some legal trouble Queen got himself involved with surrounding the death of truly heinous archvillain Prometheus where he basically got himself exiled from Star City JUST in time for a one two punch of the Black Lantern attacks and a multiversal crisis to hit, so everyone is trapped in their homes for the better part of a week staring up at crimson skies and hearing about zombies on the news When the dust settled someone had erroneously counted Queen among the dead (he wasn't he came out of the crisis fine and in as top a form as ever) and the claim caught fire. Due to the recentness of his unmasking, the legal controversy that had split opinions across the whole country, it created this potent idea of a hero who had been cynically assaulted by an uncaring media cycle only to be cut down in his prime. OR the story of a once great hero who had lost it all and redeemed himself via ultimate sacrifice. And because Queen was out of contact with the world for a while dealing with cleanup alongside the League AND still dealing with legal issues he wasn't able to clear things up before someone in Star City made a whole big hokum about "honoring him" and put down and empty grave in the city's Glenwood Cemetery.
By the time this photo was taken (during the Valor series finale where Valor is laid to rest, so a portion of Glenwood's oldest graves were used in place of the Opal City cemetery where Valor is actually buried because Star City is cheaper to film in) the news that Queen was alive and well had gone public and everyone was feeling pretty embarrassed about all the outpouring of grief that had swept the internet before the truth could put on its pants. Gustin is mostly just meme-ing on the grave for existing. A meme that Queen himself seems to appreciate, since he purchased the plot and has made multiple posts online himself where he sits on or films next to the grave nonchalantly.
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Thank you for pointing out the obvious to me, I owe everybody a mulligan tomorrow
I have a question about the first Supergirl, the one who was supposedly from some sort of alternate reality but before anyone knew about the multiverse or Hypertime. With the powers she displayed was she actually a Martian claiming not to be for some reason?
I will be honest with you and say that I don't know specifically what incident you're referring to. There are actually quite a few young, mysterious women who appeared at an early point in Superman's public career, claimed some kind of distaff Superman mantle and then vanished just as quickly as they shown up.
While we know the general story around some of them, temporary superpowers, magical animates, alien imposters I can't say which of these "first" Supergirls you mean in specific but you do bring up a decent point that I can illustrate using Superman and a martian as a baseline. Why DO Kryptonians and Martians have such similar power profiles?
(Miss Martian's profile image on social media. OOC: myotishi on DA) This has often been a question asked, it has even metastasized into a few small conspiracy theories along the lines of Superman actually secretly being a Martian who shapeshifts to look more "normal" for the benefit of his public image but the coincidence is worth investigating since the Martian shapeshifting ability does raise the idea that they could look like anything if they chose.
From what we know, Kryptonians gain their powers under the light of a yellow sun. Their own planet being both much more massive than earth AND orbiting a weak, dying red star the Kryptonian species developed a biological ability to metabolize sunlight at a much more efficient rate in order to maintain their health under a weaker star. So when exposed to a healthier, more luminous star and a planet under much weaker gravity Kryptonians become stronger, faster and gain the ability to output excess solar energy through their eyes.
Martians, Green Martians specifically (a different story, a different time) seem to gain all of their abilities from the awe inspiring mental mastery that is endemic to their people. All Martians are naturally telepathic but this mental control extends to basically every part of their body. Able to shift their shape and phase through walls via mental control of their own molecular structure, able to fly and lift impossible weights through a mix of that muscular hyper control and their own telekinetic abilities.
The only way to truly tell them apart is either invasive, violent or both. For instance Kryptonians on Earth are weak to the radioactive element known as Kryptonite whereas Martians have a violent physical reaction to open flame. Martians, due to their ability to mask themselves physically and mentally could indeed be basically anyone and anything they wanted. Especially now that the once thought lost Martian civilization has been discovered to be alive and well.
But the paranoia is mostly unfounded. If a lost Martian decided to masquerade as a supergirl for a little while I don't see any problem with that and if we're going to end up living as "neighbors" for the foreseeable future there's going to be some growing pains around the fact that humans can't tell who they're talking to if that person keeps changing their face.
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I have a question about the first Supergirl, the one who was supposedly from some sort of alternate reality but before anyone knew about the multiverse or Hypertime. With the powers she displayed was she actually a Martian claiming not to be for some reason?
I will be honest with you and say that I don't know specifically what incident you're referring to. There are actually quite a few young, mysterious women who appeared at an early point in Superman's public career, claimed some kind of distaff Superman mantle and then vanished just as quickly as they shown up.
While we know the general story around some of them, temporary superpowers, magical animates, alien imposters I can't say which of these "first" Supergirls you mean in specific but you do bring up a decent point that I can illustrate using Superman and a martian as a baseline. Why DO Kryptonians and Martians have such similar power profiles?
(Miss Martian's profile image on social media. OOC: myotishi on DA) This has often been a question asked, it has even metastasized into a few small conspiracy theories along the lines of Superman actually secretly being a Martian who shapeshifts to look more "normal" for the benefit of his public image but the coincidence is worth investigating since the Martian shapeshifting ability does raise the idea that they could look like anything if they chose.
From what we know, Kryptonians gain their powers under the light of a yellow sun. Their own planet being both much more massive than earth AND orbiting a weak, dying red star the Kryptonian species developed a biological ability to metabolize sunlight at a much more efficient rate in order to maintain their health under a weaker star. So when exposed to a healthier, more luminous star and a planet under much weaker gravity Kryptonians become stronger, faster and gain the ability to output excess solar energy through their eyes.
Martians, Green Martians specifically (a different story, a different time) seem to gain all of their abilities from the awe inspiring mental mastery that is endemic to their people. All Martians are naturally telepathic but this mental control extends to basically every part of their body. Able to shift their shape and phase through walls via mental control of their own molecular structure, able to fly and lift impossible weights through a mix of that muscular hyper control and their own telekinetic abilities.
The only way to truly tell them apart is either invasive, violent or both. For instance Kryptonians on Earth are weak to the radioactive element known as Kryptonite whereas Martians have a violent physical reaction to open flame. Martians, due to their ability to mask themselves physically and mentally could indeed be basically anyone and anything they wanted. Especially now that the once thought lost Martian civilization has been discovered to be alive and well.
But the paranoia is mostly unfounded. If a lost Martian decided to masquerade as a supergirl for a little while I don't see any problem with that and if we're going to end up living as "neighbors" for the foreseeable future there's going to be some growing pains around the fact that humans can't tell who they're talking to if that person keeps changing their face.
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Either way, it got me to connect with my mom over something and THAT is why I do not delete asks
Have you heard of the Prez?
The uh, the old TV show from the 70s right? Hold on a second I think my mom was really into that one. Lemme check.
Yea ok, here it is.

(A DC comics magazine tying into the short lived television series)
So it looks like it was a TV series that ran from late 1973 into early 1974 that was about a young political savant being tapped as a senatorial candidate in a near future world where the age of office has been lowered in the aftermath of the hippie movement and the opposition to Vietnam. Mostly seen as a reaction to the lowering of the voting age from 21 to 18 it covered a few high political targets most specifically gun control, environmental concerns and native american rights but failed to find it audience and was cancelled within a year.
Though weirdly it seems to have been remembered very well, probably for the sheer absurdity of the content and has been rebooted at least twice. Once with the original concept more or less intact and aimed at the modern teenage media landscape (IE it was much more Vampire Diaries or Riverdale than Welcome Back Kotter) and a reboot miniseries in 2015 that shook up the casting and made exactly all the of the worst people on the internet you would normally expect mad in exactly the way you would imagine.
Really I don't know much about it or why you asked (though I've seen fandom for stranger, more irrelevant franchises on this website for if you're just a big Prez stan then I give you all of my energy) since its not even vaguely related to superheroes though more modern versions of the IP have commented upon superheroes as a cultural force through the supporting "Sunshine Superman and the Love Syndicate of Dream World" basically a psyched out hippie version of the Justice League in the TV show's universe.
I haven't seen the show personally so I don't know much else about it though none of the versions are especially long and like I said my mom was really into it when she was younger so who knows we might just get together for a binge the next time I'm back home.
(Also I swear to GOD the date of this post is a coincidence)
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Well yes. Obviously they exist in another reality, EVERYTHING does
Have you heard of the Prez?
The uh, the old TV show from the 70s right? Hold on a second I think my mom was really into that one. Lemme check.
Yea ok, here it is.

(A DC comics magazine tying into the short lived television series)
So it looks like it was a TV series that ran from late 1973 into early 1974 that was about a young political savant being tapped as a senatorial candidate in a near future world where the age of office has been lowered in the aftermath of the hippie movement and the opposition to Vietnam. Mostly seen as a reaction to the lowering of the voting age from 21 to 18 it covered a few high political targets most specifically gun control, environmental concerns and native american rights but failed to find it audience and was cancelled within a year.
Though weirdly it seems to have been remembered very well, probably for the sheer absurdity of the content and has been rebooted at least twice. Once with the original concept more or less intact and aimed at the modern teenage media landscape (IE it was much more Vampire Diaries or Riverdale than Welcome Back Kotter) and a reboot miniseries in 2015 that shook up the casting and made exactly all the of the worst people on the internet you would normally expect mad in exactly the way you would imagine.
Really I don't know much about it or why you asked (though I've seen fandom for stranger, more irrelevant franchises on this website for if you're just a big Prez stan then I give you all of my energy) since its not even vaguely related to superheroes though more modern versions of the IP have commented upon superheroes as a cultural force through the supporting "Sunshine Superman and the Love Syndicate of Dream World" basically a psyched out hippie version of the Justice League in the TV show's universe.
I haven't seen the show personally so I don't know much else about it though none of the versions are especially long and like I said my mom was really into it when she was younger so who knows we might just get together for a binge the next time I'm back home.
(Also I swear to GOD the date of this post is a coincidence)
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Yea the judge who pulled that shit got raked over the coals something fierce but oh well

Um... explain this meme template? I have so many questions. Why is Stephen Amell, star of CW's Valor (a low-budget Black Pirate TV series) posing next to Oliver Queen's tombstone? Is Queen even dead? Last I checked he was alive. And why does the tombstone say Queen is Green Arrow?
Logic would dictate this is a prop from some TV show or film, but why make a prop tombstone for Oliver Queen? And moreover, why pose next to it like that?
Ok so, first thing first just a correction. THAT is not Stephen Amell. The star of CW's Valor. THAT is Grant Gustin, star of Whip Whirlwind. Valor's sister show in CW's "Valorverse" an interconnected universe of TV shows set in the same vague pre-modernish time period that dramatizes a lot of real history of pre modern mystery men and makes the rest of it up. They are cheap though but I liked them for what they were and truly I wish we got more of them in the modern day. I've been missing a lot of really meaty pulp TV I can sink my teeth into for a half dozen seasons in the modern streaming "bingeable" cancelled after 2 10 episode seasons landscape. The gravestone is a MUCH stupider story. See, Oliver Queen IS the Green Arrow and always has been and while that's an accepted fact of life now it was brand new, cutting edge information when this picture was taken. There was a massive news row about it especially due to some legal trouble Queen got himself involved with surrounding the death of truly heinous archvillain Prometheus where he basically got himself exiled from Star City JUST in time for a one two punch of the Black Lantern attacks and a multiversal crisis to hit, so everyone is trapped in their homes for the better part of a week staring up at crimson skies and hearing about zombies on the news When the dust settled someone had erroneously counted Queen among the dead (he wasn't he came out of the crisis fine and in as top a form as ever) and the claim caught fire. Due to the recentness of his unmasking, the legal controversy that had split opinions across the whole country, it created this potent idea of a hero who had been cynically assaulted by an uncaring media cycle only to be cut down in his prime. OR the story of a once great hero who had lost it all and redeemed himself via ultimate sacrifice. And because Queen was out of contact with the world for a while dealing with cleanup alongside the League AND still dealing with legal issues he wasn't able to clear things up before someone in Star City made a whole big hokum about "honoring him" and put down and empty grave in the city's Glenwood Cemetery.
By the time this photo was taken (during the Valor series finale where Valor is laid to rest, so a portion of Glenwood's oldest graves were used in place of the Opal City cemetery where Valor is actually buried because Star City is cheaper to film in) the news that Queen was alive and well had gone public and everyone was feeling pretty embarrassed about all the outpouring of grief that had swept the internet before the truth could put on its pants. Gustin is mostly just meme-ing on the grave for existing. A meme that Queen himself seems to appreciate, since he purchased the plot and has made multiple posts online himself where he sits on or films next to the grave nonchalantly.
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Considering what other supervillains do with similar talents, more power to them
So, I once happened to be in Central City and I of course went to the Flash Museum, and they mentioned that certain areas were closed as they were cleaning up from an attempt by The Trickster to rob and/or vandalize the place. I was given to understand that this sort of thing was not an unusual occurrence for them, and I've heard the Superman Museum in Metropolis has a similar issue. Do you guys have the same problem?
(not sure if this went through, so trying again)
Ha, no. No we do not and we very much work as hard as we can to keep it that way! It comes down to a difference in scope and a difference in philosophy when it comes to the Perisphere as compared to institutions like the Flash Museum.

(A photo I took of the Flash Museum while on the tram to go see it)
The Flash Museum was really the first of its kind, funded by the people of Central and Keystone City with the intention of being a shrine and celebration of the Flash legacy soon after the appearance of the 2nd Flash and has been expanded ever since. The museum displays everything it can possibly get its hands on, from wax statues of villains to photographs and videos of the hero in action to the part that gets them in trouble:
Artifacts from the exploits of the Flashes and the other heroes of Central and Keystone City.
I've talked before about how, here at the Perisphere, we have a policy of only accepting artifact if they have been placed in their "least operative state" meaning that all internal mechanisms and machinery that might make them dangerous or useful have been removed. All of the actual artifacts we have on display are mostly inert shells with nothing on the inside because that's all we need to show! Most nobody who visits us is the kind of physics savant who would get anything out of a full diagram of Starman's gravity rod in the first place and if they ARE there are endless scientific papers and publications with Ted Knight's name on them to look over.
The Flash Museum has a different policy where their artifacts must be "Functionally Disarmed" meaning that, say, when they display Captain Cold's Cold Gun they simply remove the trigger mechanism without touching the internals.
There are pros and cons to both policies. One could credibly argue that the Flash Museum's collection is more complete because the displays are as close and humanly possible to how they were recovered. *I* would argue that our policy keeps the front wall from being blown in every other Tuesday!
There's also just the different function, both social and emotional, that the two institutions play.
The Flash Museum is the living celebration of a heroic legacy that is still very active and that otherwise has no publically accessible "headquarters". The Flash Family doesn't exactly have a clubhouse in the phone book. So if any of the Flash's villains want their technology back, OR they want to make a statement by attacking the Flash as a symbol the best place to do it is the Flash Museum.
Alternatively, The Trylon and Perisphere are the historical headquarters of a superhero organization that has been functionally defunct for 75 years and counting. We are a museum to the history of the All Star Squadron, NOT the Justice Society. The Justice Society, still an extant organization, still HAS a working headquarters that is publically known. It's up near Battery Park which on a GOOD day is 30 minutes by car and an hour's ride on the subway.
Supervillains have no reason to attack here. There's nothing of value between these walls and there's no organization still in existence that this place symbolizes and anyone who comes to town with the intention of fucking with the remaining golden age heroes would probably just head up to ACTUALLY call out the JSA.
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The Rogues have their well known code of conduct which basically comes down to the idea that they always want to be the superhero community's lowest possible priority and superheroes, in their all loving nature, tend to bump you up the list when you start dropping bodies
So, I once happened to be in Central City and I of course went to the Flash Museum, and they mentioned that certain areas were closed as they were cleaning up from an attempt by The Trickster to rob and/or vandalize the place. I was given to understand that this sort of thing was not an unusual occurrence for them, and I've heard the Superman Museum in Metropolis has a similar issue. Do you guys have the same problem?
(not sure if this went through, so trying again)
Ha, no. No we do not and we very much work as hard as we can to keep it that way! It comes down to a difference in scope and a difference in philosophy when it comes to the Perisphere as compared to institutions like the Flash Museum.

(A photo I took of the Flash Museum while on the tram to go see it)
The Flash Museum was really the first of its kind, funded by the people of Central and Keystone City with the intention of being a shrine and celebration of the Flash legacy soon after the appearance of the 2nd Flash and has been expanded ever since. The museum displays everything it can possibly get its hands on, from wax statues of villains to photographs and videos of the hero in action to the part that gets them in trouble:
Artifacts from the exploits of the Flashes and the other heroes of Central and Keystone City.
I've talked before about how, here at the Perisphere, we have a policy of only accepting artifact if they have been placed in their "least operative state" meaning that all internal mechanisms and machinery that might make them dangerous or useful have been removed. All of the actual artifacts we have on display are mostly inert shells with nothing on the inside because that's all we need to show! Most nobody who visits us is the kind of physics savant who would get anything out of a full diagram of Starman's gravity rod in the first place and if they ARE there are endless scientific papers and publications with Ted Knight's name on them to look over.
The Flash Museum has a different policy where their artifacts must be "Functionally Disarmed" meaning that, say, when they display Captain Cold's Cold Gun they simply remove the trigger mechanism without touching the internals.
There are pros and cons to both policies. One could credibly argue that the Flash Museum's collection is more complete because the displays are as close and humanly possible to how they were recovered. *I* would argue that our policy keeps the front wall from being blown in every other Tuesday!
There's also just the different function, both social and emotional, that the two institutions play.
The Flash Museum is the living celebration of a heroic legacy that is still very active and that otherwise has no publically accessible "headquarters". The Flash Family doesn't exactly have a clubhouse in the phone book. So if any of the Flash's villains want their technology back, OR they want to make a statement by attacking the Flash as a symbol the best place to do it is the Flash Museum.
Alternatively, The Trylon and Perisphere are the historical headquarters of a superhero organization that has been functionally defunct for 75 years and counting. We are a museum to the history of the All Star Squadron, NOT the Justice Society. The Justice Society, still an extant organization, still HAS a working headquarters that is publically known. It's up near Battery Park which on a GOOD day is 30 minutes by car and an hour's ride on the subway.
Supervillains have no reason to attack here. There's nothing of value between these walls and there's no organization still in existence that this place symbolizes and anyone who comes to town with the intention of fucking with the remaining golden age heroes would probably just head up to ACTUALLY call out the JSA.
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S: And he gets MUCH better benefits than I do
(for Sandman II)
Hello, first of all, thanks for fighting the good fight. Sorry that you effectively woke up in the future to see humanity making the same mistakes. It took me a while to think of a question that wasn’t too cynical, and I think I found one.
For a few years now I have had an interest in the Chinatown Kid, the ward of the Vigilante. I always wondered why he never grew up to assume the role of Vigilante. I know a big part of it was the Keanne Act, but it still confuses me why he seems unattached to the legacy. Is it as simple as “the US of the day would never have accepted a Chinese legacy superhero, let alone one unwilling to dance to the government’s tune?” There have been a number of vigilantes, but they feel disconnected from the original role. But the Chinatown Kid was actually there. I was wondering if you have any perspective on the matter, as someone closer to it.
Sandy: Listen close, my friends. I've been getting a lot of this sort of thing. The entire JSA has. So let's get a couple of things straight.
Me: Amen
S: I was born in the great depression. I lived through the Klan and the Bund. I watched the world turn a blind eye to the Holocaust until it was too late. I watched a war of justice become an excuse for internment. I saw fascism go down in flames just for the Red Scare to brighten on OUR shores.
M: History is always in motion.
S: Exactly. Every single day you're alive will seem unsurvivable. Until you survive it. Every scar will seem unhealing, until you no longer feel it at all. Every single sunset will feel like your last even as you watch them pile up and up and up into your old age.
M: And the problem of evil-
S: Is that evil always feels unbeatable until its beaten. And it is. Every. Single. Time. Do you know what I saw when I woke up in this new world?
M: What?
S: I saw a world where black and white marched arm in arm for what was right, for a dream. I saw a world in which women took their place at the podium and fight with tooth and claw to keep it. A world where love is love and democracy is expected and the rights of man are written in stone as a reminder and an hourglass to all those who violate them.
M: Culture shock.
S: Damn right. You think this world of ours is making the same mistakes? Never. It's make a LOT of brand new ones. And we'll fight until we bleed and sweat until we shake, and then...we'll move on to the next new mistakes. But here we will be.
S: Simplest way to put it, Stuff found something he loved doing more than he loved doing this.
M: Being a superhero you mean?
S: Exactly. When he and the rest of the Soldiers disappeared-
M: I've talked about that on my blog but in short, the 7 Soldiers, including Vigilante and Stuff were thrown about in time by the villainous Black Hand in mid 1947, not to return until near the present day
S: Right. Well the Soldiers skipped the heroic...what's the term you guys use?
M: "Interregnum" caused by the Keene act.
S: Right, well they skipped over that. Stayed fighting the good fight for a little while longer but after that, well, Stuff didn't WANT to be the Vigilante.
M: Why?
S: Stuff always talked about 'when the war was over' in a way the rest of us didn't.
M: Imagining a future after "the life"?
S: Yea He worked with Greg, the Vigilante, on his music too but he wasn't a born performer. He got dug in like a tick on the production side. He wanted to produce, to make the deals, support the art.
M: Danny Leong AKA "Stuff" and his son Victor currently run a media production company "Stuff Artistic Partners" which parleyed the money and cache of Greg Saunders' country music career profits and film appearances into an artistic production collective with a hand in music, films, television. They've done everything from releasing greatest hits collections of forgotten Delta Blues legends to putting down money that would eventually become part of A24 studios.
S: Yep, that was Stuff. He just saw a different way to put good out into the world and he did it.
M: Still, he WAS the Vigilante's protege
S: That didn't matter at all. None of us were "expected" to take over from our mentors. Back during the war days none of us could have imagined that day ever coming to begin with and our mentors never would have demanded it of us.
M: You being the counter example?
S: I became the Sandman after Wes passed because this is the job I was born for, this is where I belong. If I had had different dreams Wes never would have left this behind for me.
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Um... explain this meme template? I have so many questions. Why is Stephen Amell, star of CW's Valor (a low-budget Black Pirate TV series) posing next to Oliver Queen's tombstone? Is Queen even dead? Last I checked he was alive. And why does the tombstone say Queen is Green Arrow?
Logic would dictate this is a prop from some TV show or film, but why make a prop tombstone for Oliver Queen? And moreover, why pose next to it like that?
Ok so, first thing first just a correction. THAT is not Stephen Amell. The star of CW's Valor. THAT is Grant Gustin, star of Whip Whirlwind. Valor's sister show in CW's "Valorverse" an interconnected universe of TV shows set in the same vague pre-modernish time period that dramatizes a lot of real history of pre modern mystery men and makes the rest of it up. They are cheap though but I liked them for what they were and truly I wish we got more of them in the modern day. I've been missing a lot of really meaty pulp TV I can sink my teeth into for a half dozen seasons in the modern streaming "bingeable" cancelled after 2 10 episode seasons landscape. The gravestone is a MUCH stupider story. See, Oliver Queen IS the Green Arrow and always has been and while that's an accepted fact of life now it was brand new, cutting edge information when this picture was taken. There was a massive news row about it especially due to some legal trouble Queen got himself involved with surrounding the death of truly heinous archvillain Prometheus where he basically got himself exiled from Star City JUST in time for a one two punch of the Black Lantern attacks and a multiversal crisis to hit, so everyone is trapped in their homes for the better part of a week staring up at crimson skies and hearing about zombies on the news When the dust settled someone had erroneously counted Queen among the dead (he wasn't he came out of the crisis fine and in as top a form as ever) and the claim caught fire. Due to the recentness of his unmasking, the legal controversy that had split opinions across the whole country, it created this potent idea of a hero who had been cynically assaulted by an uncaring media cycle only to be cut down in his prime. OR the story of a once great hero who had lost it all and redeemed himself via ultimate sacrifice. And because Queen was out of contact with the world for a while dealing with cleanup alongside the League AND still dealing with legal issues he wasn't able to clear things up before someone in Star City made a whole big hokum about "honoring him" and put down and empty grave in the city's Glenwood Cemetery.
By the time this photo was taken (during the Valor series finale where Valor is laid to rest, so a portion of Glenwood's oldest graves were used in place of the Opal City cemetery where Valor is actually buried because Star City is cheaper to film in) the news that Queen was alive and well had gone public and everyone was feeling pretty embarrassed about all the outpouring of grief that had swept the internet before the truth could put on its pants. Gustin is mostly just meme-ing on the grave for existing. A meme that Queen himself seems to appreciate, since he purchased the plot and has made multiple posts online himself where he sits on or films next to the grave nonchalantly.
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Have you heard of the Prez?
The uh, the old TV show from the 70s right? Hold on a second I think my mom was really into that one. Lemme check.
Yea ok, here it is.

(A DC comics magazine tying into the short lived television series)
So it looks like it was a TV series that ran from late 1973 into early 1974 that was about a young political savant being tapped as a senatorial candidate in a near future world where the age of office has been lowered in the aftermath of the hippie movement and the opposition to Vietnam. Mostly seen as a reaction to the lowering of the voting age from 21 to 18 it covered a few high political targets most specifically gun control, environmental concerns and native american rights but failed to find it audience and was cancelled within a year.
Though weirdly it seems to have been remembered very well, probably for the sheer absurdity of the content and has been rebooted at least twice. Once with the original concept more or less intact and aimed at the modern teenage media landscape (IE it was much more Vampire Diaries or Riverdale than Welcome Back Kotter) and a reboot miniseries in 2015 that shook up the casting and made exactly all the of the worst people on the internet you would normally expect mad in exactly the way you would imagine.
Really I don't know much about it or why you asked (though I've seen fandom for stranger, more irrelevant franchises on this website for if you're just a big Prez stan then I give you all of my energy) since its not even vaguely related to superheroes though more modern versions of the IP have commented upon superheroes as a cultural force through the supporting "Sunshine Superman and the Love Syndicate of Dream World" basically a psyched out hippie version of the Justice League in the TV show's universe.
I haven't seen the show personally so I don't know much else about it though none of the versions are especially long and like I said my mom was really into it when she was younger so who knows we might just get together for a binge the next time I'm back home.
(Also I swear to GOD the date of this post is a coincidence)
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S: They do, can confirm
(QSandA)
Who's the superhero who was just the most nice? You're all heroic and that carries with it a necessity for empathy and kindness, but who's the standout who just always made people feel better to be around them, who listened when someone was carrying something around with them, who made the room calmer and safer to be in, who reached out to people just because it was good to talk to them.
Who's the Mr. Rogers of superheroes?
Sandy: Does this question really require and answer? Me: It's been asked.
S: Ok, ok, but I'll do a more interesting version first.
M: Do tell.
S: Back in the DAY, at the height of the Justice Society and the All Star Squadron. It was Jay, no doubt.
M: That's Jay Garrick, the first Flash?
S: That's the one. Everyone knows Jay now as the superhero community favorite grandpa. Folksy, supportive, a little sharp in the wit department and always there to lend a hand.
M: Never in my LIFE have I heard a bad word about the man.
S: And truly you never will. Even back when I was a sidekick Jay would make me feel ten feet tall.
M: How so?
S: He never talked down to us, he always met us at eye level, always talked to us like we had something to contribute. Never even breathed the THOUGHT of us staying behind when there was scrapping to be done.
M: Got to be the cool uncle without the responsibility of keeping you alive.
S: *heh* a little bit. But he was also...he always acted like he was proud of us.
M: Proud?
S: Like. Whenever I was in a fight, I'd slug some ratzi bastard upside the head and when everything died down and we were standing around panting in the aftermath he would be like "Did anyone see Sandy? That kid's got a kick like a mule! I wouldn't want to be that German when he wakes up with his bits all out of order!" meanwhile he had just crashed the Rival through the front window of a department store in a 70 mile an hour headlock or something.
M: Humility is one of the trait's he's known for.
S: No kidding. As for modern day...I mean. You tell them.
M: It's Superman, isn't it?
S: NoooOOoooOOOoo shit! Obviously, it's Superman!
M: Another man I have never heard a bad breath about.
S: And you wont, just like Jay. He's, well, he's Superman! The Big Blue Boyscout! He listens, he cares, you know what it is?
M: What?
S: He always laughs.
M: Laughs?
S: When you're telling a story, or making an observation, or just muttering a crack about the bad guy you're fighting. Superman ALWAYS laughs. This big, deep belly laugh. He'll clap you on the shoulder with those big, calloused baseball mitts of his and he'll say "good one! I'll have to remember that next time I'm fighting them". He will straight up use a joke against a villain and then tell the villain who he heard it from!
M: Really?
S: Yea like um...oh. He was fighting Zoom or something, and Zoom was realizing he wasn't getting the better of him so he was taking off. Superman snap the street out from under him like yanking a rug and say, verbatim "Zoom, there's a reason you're always in yellow...Flash told me that one."
M: HA, that one is funny.
S: And, like Jay he never talks down to anybody. No matter what "level" of hero you're at, he greets you in a fight or on a case like he's relieved you're there. Like you showing up is what's really gonna kick the scales over. It's motivating. Being around Superman for 5 seconds makes me feel like a 10 star badass.
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It's a difference in atmosphere and philosophy.
To be blunt the fuckers at the Flash Museum are downright fearless. They don't just laugh in the face of attack they REVEL in it because attacks on the Flash Museum don't have any higher success rate than any OTHER Rogue attack so what's to be worried about.
So, I once happened to be in Central City and I of course went to the Flash Museum, and they mentioned that certain areas were closed as they were cleaning up from an attempt by The Trickster to rob and/or vandalize the place. I was given to understand that this sort of thing was not an unusual occurrence for them, and I've heard the Superman Museum in Metropolis has a similar issue. Do you guys have the same problem?
(not sure if this went through, so trying again)
Ha, no. No we do not and we very much work as hard as we can to keep it that way! It comes down to a difference in scope and a difference in philosophy when it comes to the Perisphere as compared to institutions like the Flash Museum.

(A photo I took of the Flash Museum while on the tram to go see it)
The Flash Museum was really the first of its kind, funded by the people of Central and Keystone City with the intention of being a shrine and celebration of the Flash legacy soon after the appearance of the 2nd Flash and has been expanded ever since. The museum displays everything it can possibly get its hands on, from wax statues of villains to photographs and videos of the hero in action to the part that gets them in trouble:
Artifacts from the exploits of the Flashes and the other heroes of Central and Keystone City.
I've talked before about how, here at the Perisphere, we have a policy of only accepting artifact if they have been placed in their "least operative state" meaning that all internal mechanisms and machinery that might make them dangerous or useful have been removed. All of the actual artifacts we have on display are mostly inert shells with nothing on the inside because that's all we need to show! Most nobody who visits us is the kind of physics savant who would get anything out of a full diagram of Starman's gravity rod in the first place and if they ARE there are endless scientific papers and publications with Ted Knight's name on them to look over.
The Flash Museum has a different policy where their artifacts must be "Functionally Disarmed" meaning that, say, when they display Captain Cold's Cold Gun they simply remove the trigger mechanism without touching the internals.
There are pros and cons to both policies. One could credibly argue that the Flash Museum's collection is more complete because the displays are as close and humanly possible to how they were recovered. *I* would argue that our policy keeps the front wall from being blown in every other Tuesday!
There's also just the different function, both social and emotional, that the two institutions play.
The Flash Museum is the living celebration of a heroic legacy that is still very active and that otherwise has no publically accessible "headquarters". The Flash Family doesn't exactly have a clubhouse in the phone book. So if any of the Flash's villains want their technology back, OR they want to make a statement by attacking the Flash as a symbol the best place to do it is the Flash Museum.
Alternatively, The Trylon and Perisphere are the historical headquarters of a superhero organization that has been functionally defunct for 75 years and counting. We are a museum to the history of the All Star Squadron, NOT the Justice Society. The Justice Society, still an extant organization, still HAS a working headquarters that is publically known. It's up near Battery Park which on a GOOD day is 30 minutes by car and an hour's ride on the subway.
Supervillains have no reason to attack here. There's nothing of value between these walls and there's no organization still in existence that this place symbolizes and anyone who comes to town with the intention of fucking with the remaining golden age heroes would probably just head up to ACTUALLY call out the JSA.
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