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Thoughts on Cad Bane in Tales of the Underworld

I almost never post analyses of my fave fandom things! But I've been thinking about nothing but this show for a solid 24 hours, haha. Honestly, I've been pretty light on sharing my thoughts on the beloved blorbos previously because I don't often care for engaging in the hot take trading in Star Wars fandom... and I also know things tend to grow on me over time, even if something bothers me at first. I’m also in times when people like me worry for their lives and futures, so the me that shows up for Star Wars anymore honestly just wants to have a little fun with it and appreciate what these creative teams manage to do, especially today, when I get Cad Bane content so enchantingly rarely!

BUT, these episodes definitely had a big effect on me. So I've sat with them a little, let ‘em roll around in my head, and though there’s parts of the narrative I think I would have also liked to see… what was done with this story, I ultimately really enjoyed.

But let's dig in deeper, because it IS fun.

THE RELATIONSHIP

Alright, to get it outta the way, anything that involves showing a past relationship for a character seems to set off a bomb inside fan heads. And as a queer writer with an MLM Bane series, some folks have seemed to kind of want to feel me out on this one!

Honestly, the Bane and Arin relationship intrigued me, and I like her.

But first, before I dig into why, I have seen some folks uncomfortable with the idea of a character that's had a blank slate backstory past now being given a "love interest," so I'm going to speak to that first. What is presented here doesn’t change all that much about what we know of Bane as a character—this was a relationship that was definitely physical and involved SOME sort of emotional attachment, but that's about all that was said, and I don't see how it really threatens most interpretations of Bane. Yes, even and especially the queer ones. One can write Bane and/or Arin with any earth-equivalent sexuality, gender, or romantic preferences (or lack thereof) that you choose and these interpretations would still work within this canon information (if you even want to keep canon information in your works!) I've been looking at this relationship from the angles of queerplatonism, aromanticism, bisexuality, pansexuality, heterosexuality, gay with a confusing puberty, etc. etc. etc.. And that’s just if Arin is in fact a woman in the sense that many earth humans mean it.

There’s a lot of wide narrative holes for creatives to nest in here, and I'm really happy I can say that, because I'm already building a nest. And, besides all THAT, Bane’s a cowboy alien?? Like. I think we should all keep getting weird with it, because he SURELY would be up to things outside of our earthly human day-to-day perspective.

So yeehaw. Do Whatever You Want Forever!

Moving on.

THOUGHTS ABOUT ARIN HERSELF

I really like her. I love the idea of this young person who was kind, who was trying to pull Cad back from the worst parts of his nature, who was wiser than he was about the possibilities of a future past the violence of their world. That is part of what my own OC Nuni was when I wrote him. And now in canon, there were at least two people—Arin and Niro—both trying to pull Cad back from his fixation on gold and blood, and I like that theme!

Was I curious how Cad and Arin came together…? Yeah. Of COURSE. But I know this was limited time we had, and decisions were made about how to convey the most telling details in shorthand and the story in broad brushstrokes—so here, I settle for the subtle body language, which honestly was very deliberately rendered. It’s clear Cad is attached on some level to Arin; the way he works easily alongside her and doesn’t leave her behind when the going gets tough isn't without meaning at all. For him, it seems as close a relationship as he's able to have. But a lot of their interaction regardless comes across as a very Cad way of handling someone, especially while younger, rasher, his anger hotter. He doesn’t confide in her, he snips, he barely listens. He hardly looks at her or even touches her, though her own gaze is often on him, analyzing, hoping, bidding for him to let go of what doesn’t matter. But he doesn’t consider her needs for a single second as more important than him coming out on top. And this… this was a relationship I’ve seen before in life, in which one side is too focused on what they’re chasing to properly, truly notice the other person, even if some facet of having the other person around comforts them. I couldn't help but wonder if Arin was indeed startled by how easily Cad hugged Niro, when Cad just doesn’t seem to be like that with anyone else that we see, not even her. So yes, his and Arin’s relationship was strange, one-sided, with so much unspoken… but it was a lot we can glean from very little.

I wish in some ways that Arin had still been alive in the final episode, but I am sensing perhaps why it was decided that she wouldn’t be. There’s a narrative hole here I’m going to have to speculate inside, but—when Bane returns an unspecified amount of time after he was arrested, he’s grown up a fair amount. Got new scars. He has crew coming to meet him as if they want to give loyalty, when he didn't exactly come across as Lazlo's second in command previously. And now, the community council seems like they’re wetting their pants about him showing up, and they ALL know and seem to fear his name, whereas when he was arrested, they absolutely didn’t.

Frankly, the writing seems to imply that there was some serious stuff that happened in the interim between when they arrested him and he made his way back to his old stomping grounds. I don't know if it was a situation in which Bane still managed to make trouble from inside his cell, pulling strings, or if there were periods in which he was free, then arrested again.

But either way, Arin was left behind for a long while, just like Niro was once. Enough for Cad to get up to his own mischief, forge at least some part of his intimidating legacy. But again, he’s been so sucked into his own workings that the world he left behind moved on without him. I don't think he ever says that he was coming back for Arin when he does arrive; that’s a guess everyone ELSE is throwing around. He’s seemingly just there to settle accounts in general, and the mention of Arin having married Niro just seems to stick him in the pride. Either way, he's come back far too late to have done anything about it. They've both long moved on, and he wrote her off as a traitor long ago. Arin's had a life alongside a kinder person, and now is gone, and perhaps Cad could have tried to learn anything at all about what had happened before now, found a way for someone to bring him intel, wrote a letter, etc. But he didn’t.

He only returns to old places in this story when it’s time for revenge.

I think it fits his character fairly well, so unwilling to deal with these emotional difficulties that any question of Arin he still held in his heart was answered by a life fully lived without him, one he stayed ignorant of until it came back to needle his ego. The fact that Arin is dead isn't the point. It was that he didn't know she was dead, years gone. If that isn't a character statement, I don't know what is.

So yes, despite the missing parts, Arin is a character I like. I see some folks mentioning the concept of her being “fridged,” but I personally don’t think that entirely fits. Fridging is… specific. She wasn't there in the story only to die of violent or sad means, all to inspire the protagonist into having character development. Conversely, Arin doesn’t pass the Bechdel test, no, and I wish she did! Regardless, the tragedy is that Arin DOES have agency and uses it to live, not die—and her sacrifice doesn't inspire or change Cad, because he was hurtling down into the dark all on his own. She chose to end the violence, defy Cad and steal his gun because she’s kinder and wiser than he is, and knows how to let go and move on. She only died after having lived a life she chose, even an offscreen one, Cad’s choices be damned. I can’t call it a fridging. I do still wish she had more time to tell us more about who she was, but I suppose fic is here, and I’m just going to have to write something about it sometime.

CAD BANE’S SON

I yelled when he appeared. Jfc what a cute kid. This story also told us Cad was a cute kid too. And the narrative spares neither of them. :(

I’m going to get it out of the way: the only thing, literally the only thing, I am having difficulty accepting about this story is the kid’s name. Isaac. What? What?? EXCUSE ME. IS THE BOOK OF GENESIS IN STAR WARS?? I’m going to need ten linguistics and history enthusiasts in my replies immediately so we can figure out what the hell happened culturally with the Duros and Judaism in a galaxy far far away.

BUT I DIGRESS. This kid Isaac looked into my soul with those big eyes and I opened a door in my heart for him and now I’m in hell, so whatever I guess.

I AM IN HELL AHHHHH.

But. The moment when Cad looks in that kid’s eyes and knows EXACTLY who the father is was almost startling. Like, he even reaches out for a second. Just a split second. It’s this razor-sharp shard surprise-cutting him inside his moment where he thought he was just wrapping up all the loose ends. All that gloating to Niro about “I’ll take care of him like you did Arin” had so little real caring behind it that I doubt it was any kind of real promise.

But it’s then that Cad sees. For one of the few times in this story, Cad looks into someone else’s eyes outside of himself, and he properly sees them.

And he reaches out.

But that’s shut down fast. The interfering mayor clearly knows who Isaac comes from, just like Cad knows now. And neither of them say anything about it, but their understanding is clear, and Cad walks away, quietly agreeing, perhaps, that it’s the right move to do so. What he’s become can’t help this kid in any meaningful way. He’s just made another abandoned orphan like he was, and who knows what kind of life is in store for that child now?

Obviously, later in canon, Cad will have a go at helping another kid’s journey, mentoring Boba Fett. I wonder if, perhaps, he did it to try and prove to himself he could, gnawing inwardly over what happened on this day with the son he’ll now never know.

After all, he's not very good at letting things go.

THE STORY IN GENERAL

I’m kind of working backwards with my thoughts, from this very specific musing regarding the important relationships to the larger story... I haven't even gotten into Niro! Did you see that moment where Cad was the one to hug him, and he couldn't quite manage to do it back? When the last time they saw each other, he was the one being abandoned? How he faced Cad in person, and so is NEVER the person running away to save himself? I am gently patting this Duros' face. Excellent. But. I am going to have to wrap this up eventually and save any other thoughts for later.

At the end of the day, there was a lot inside this short little visit into Bane’s life that really delighted me. The scores of different Duros characters (shoutout to the guy in that giant hat, hahaha. LOVE A DUROS IN A GIANT HAT <3) The love given to the modeling, texturing, and overall craft of this production... all my love to the Star Wars animation team. The small look at the culture in the area Bane lived in as a child. The way he discourages his friend from buying a little toy their hearts clearly want, in favor of that which is practical. That moment when child Bane gets a taste of what money can do, hungry, licking the box clean that held his first real, good meal in a long time. The moment when Niro tries to get him to walk away from Lazlo’s scheme, and he immediately spins around and agrees it’s not worth it unless they’re paid twice as much—the budding negotiator!

Being fast, agile, sliding over the hood of a car as he runs from the cops.

Choosing to save himself, then the instant regret, lack of surety, fear—drowned in his first handful of gold.

The visual of him as an adult seeing his childhood self in the glass before shooting that thought right through the heart… the foreshadowing. Goddamn.

Like, I do have mixed feelings on some level. It was too big a story in too small a space. The first episode was plain excellent, but the latter two suffered from the broad brushstrokes preventing us from being able to get to know some of the new faces introduced, and raised a lot of questions about other things—truly, we never get to see what Lazlo comes to mean to young Colby, why he inspired a boy to become so like him. We never see when Colby decides to leave behind his old name and why. We never see where Todo comes from, or why Cad chose Arin to spend his time with. It also doesn’t show the why’s and how’s that made Cad Bane the Legend exceptional at what he is.

But it did give us tantalizing tidbits, the smallest pieces of the before-times we can explore more on our own. It showcased that Cad Bane's greatest strength as a bounty hunter, why he's so feared, is the precise fatal flaw that made his life the way it is: the fact that once he has the scent of his goals, he’ll never let go, not ever—he'll chase them from one end of the galaxy to the other to settle accounts, inexorable, deadly.

And it hasn't brought him happiness.

#good thoughts well written #putting this here next to the grumbling for the sake of conversation and thinking #Cad Bane

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deepbluespace4 · 4 days ago

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baby cad bane made me sob he was so so so small and just a little kid in poverty and he just wanted to eat crunchies with his friend and seeing him lick the sugar from that box made me die he wAS JuST A KID

#I know....#Cad Bane #tales of the underworld

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deepbluespace4 · 4 days ago

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“Sorry, lil’ lady.”

OK… NOOOOOWWW I GET IT.

#Cad Bane #:(#dammit.

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deepbluespace4 · 4 days ago

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Star Wars - Tales of the underworld 4-6

I'll say it right out of the gate that I loved Cad Bane episodes. They were so much more interesting and far less formulaic than Asajj's. However, it doesn't mean they don't have their problems. But first of all, let me get some bad-faith criticisms out of the way.

Some people are pissed that we didn't get the unfinished arc with Boba vs Cad Bane. Don't get me wrong, I would love to see it but not in a cutup/shorter version to fit into the ''tales'' (3 shorter episodes arcs) format. Just give us Clone Wars season 8 or 6.5, Disney! I will judge episodes based on what they are, not what I wish they were.

There seem to be a lot of people who hate the idea of Cad Bane being heterosexual. Also, some people call Cad Bane a woman hater or a misogynist. Why? Because he doesn't have any love interest in the Clone Wars show? Because he says ''little lady''? Fuck you! Stop projecting your own crazy headcanons onto a character and a show as a whole. Go read or write a fanfic.

I mentioned it in previous episodes but with Cad Bane episodes, the short runtime and only 3 episodes rule is really hurting the flow of the story. All 6 episodes could've been about just Cad Bane and it would still leave room for more stories with him. Because he's older he mathematically has more time for his adventures and unlike Asajj we know very little about him. We end the first episode with child Cad Bane (or Colby) and the second episode opens with Cad Bane already way older, trained by and bonded with Lazlo, so much so that he wants to avenge his death which happens off screen by the way. Also, a female Duro joined their gang and Cad got her pregnant. I guess it leaves room for more stories. I would much prefer for the story to leave me wanting more rather than leave me thinking ''Well, that was pointless.'' (Kinda like Asajj episodes.).

Also, I find it rather funny that while Lazlo was mentoring young Cad Bane through all those years together he never taught him about protection and safe sex. It's not like his girlfriend (fuck buddy) is a different species so they might've assumed nothing will happen. They're the same species! (Also, can't wait for people to scream ''They're siblings! It's incest!'' when it's revealed Lazlo adopted her too as a kid, or maybe she's his biological daughter.)

Cad Bane's real name being Colby has some implications. Some people hate it, some people love it for how funny it is. I didn't know that Colby is a real human name and apparently a cheese. To me, before I found out about it, it just sounded like an alien name. In Clone Wars characters refer to him as Cad Bane, if I remember correctly there are documents with his information and there should be the real name and not a nickname. Did he legally change it? Are other characters just refusing to call him Colby and use his more badass name because they realize how funny/stupid it is? ''I've been beaten by Col . . . Cad Bane, that's his name, Cad Bane.''

Also, I find it quite ironic that there is a comic about Cad Bane hunting down and killing his old childhood friend for impersonating him. Meanwhile, he inspired his whole look after his dead father figure. Not contradicting or hypocritical per se but quite. . . awkward? convenient? derivative? I'm struggling to find the right word, but I think we're all tired of the ''Solo'' thing where everything has to be explained or has to have a ''deeper'' meaning by giving it a backstory. Why his name couldn't just be Cad Bane? Why can't his style and outfit be just something he come up with himself and likes it because it's cool. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pCB3L8dfxI

Going back to his girlfriend. Some people have gripes with her that she didn't tell Cad Bane that she's pregnant sooner. She was about to but then the plot happened and it wouldn't be convenient. ''I know your father figure died but I'm pregnant.'' or ''I know we're about to be arrested but I'm pregnant.''.

My biggest problem is that Cad Bane doesn't seem to be that interested in her at first. She openly flirts with him but he doesn't seem to react to it whatsoever and later we see them playing cards. I'm not asking for them to make out or have sex on screen but some hint of a mutual attraction would've been good. To me it looked like her having an unrequited crush on Bane. When she got shot I expected Cad to ditch her to save himself, Niro to take care of her and that's what pushed her to get over Cad Bane and fall in love with Niro and leave the life of crime. (''Don't go for the bad boy girls. Real life is not a movie. He's gonna get you killed.'') But now it looks like she just got together with Niro because she didn't want her kid to be a fatherless bastard. Not helped by the fact we never see Niro and Arin together after Cad gets arrested. Did they ever love each other?

Speaking of Cad Getting arrested. He apparently got out on a technicality. Excuse me, WHAT? He burned down a building! Shoot police droids! He killed a human sheriff, as in, a living being! Everybody saw it! And he did all this as revenge for his gang leader! Did he plead insanity? Did he tell them his backstory of being taken as a kid by a gang therefore his sentence was reduced? Why didn't you just say there was a prison break? Because you wanted to make a commentary about how the justice system is flawed and criminals get absurdly short sentences or get out of jail entirely? Well, I'm sorry, but you don't have time for that. You have all this personal drama between Niro, Arin, and Cad Bane/Colby. Maybe if it was a full arc with longer episodes like Clone Wars but here it's just two lines.

Also, I'm tired of all Cad Bane battles being reduced to a western standoff. Do you recall Cad Bane from the Clone Wars? His gadgets, the rocket boots, grappling hook, tubes etc.? They would make up for his scrawny physique but he could still be active in battle. Like how he fought with Ahsoka, Obi Wan and Anakin? But what I miss most is his intelligence and cunning. His well-thought-out plans for a robbery. He can do more than stand menacingly and shoot! I know it's a younger Cad and he doesn't have Todo, his gadgets or experience but it would be nice to see some glimpses of them. One luck at Isaac and his history with Arin should've been enough for Cad to connect the dots. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SvpHk1UgiEY&t=1928s

Speaking of Isaac himself. I don't know what they're gonna do with him. Is he going to hunt down Cad Bane? We know that Cad will go on to have a long life so I guess not. Or maybe he will try but have a change of heart or Cad Bane will kill his own son. That would be interesting. Maybe he would be like his dad and become a sheriff but that would force him to be forever stuck in this one town so he will not go on many adventures. I'm curies what they're going to do with him.

Alright, I've done a lot of complaining but this is probably the most entertained, immersed, and excited I was while watching anything Star Wars since the Bad Batch season one premiere. While the Bad Batch fell off and felt more like a chore to get through, live action shows ruined established characters so much I pretend they don't exist and would be content with never seeing them again, or were a fart in a wind, or made connections to the sequel trilogy completely killing my interest and reminding me that no matter how good some prequel material is, it's all leading up to the biggest catastrophe in cinematic history. (I hope someone comes in and retcons Disney's sludge! Let them know how it feels!) This Cad Bane arc left me wanting more, it left me thinking about what I just watched, I got my gears turning with so many scenarios, it reminded me of Clone Wars, the unfinished arcs that could still be adapted, a new stories for the old characters like Bossk and Boba and finally some new characters that might go beyond the show they were introduced in and if not they're still memorable. More of this please! Just fix the small things that I mentioned and we can have gold on our hands.

#Cad Bane #star wars #tales of the underworld #wholeheartedly agree

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deepbluespace4 · 4 days ago

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I want the crunchies scene yes!

Anyway at some point there will be a scene where he sidles up to a Tattooine bar and asks if they have any Crunchies and I'll lose my mind

Barkeep: You mean Mantell Mix?

Cad Bane: I mean Crunchies, I don't know who Mantell is an' I don' care what he's mixin'

Barkeep: Well we have Mantell M-

Cad Bane (charging blaster): You're gonna have one less bartender if you don't pour that shit in a bowl right away, son

Barkeep: *hurriedly pours bowl of Mantell Mix*

Cad Bane (holsters blaster and does a shot of alcohol): You ain't my son.

Barkeep: I'm - I'm sorry?

Cad Bane: If you were my son I woulda shot ya

#Cad Bane #crunchies #needed this mental image

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deepbluespace4 · 4 days ago

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Yes...the last matter was quite personal for that but I would have loved to see some teen Bane sass.

OK, my main issues with the Bane arc are as follows, while some can be explained away with headcanons or critical thinking skills, lol. Still. They bother me because it left US to do the work and did not properly elaborate on the how or why, or the who these people are even?!

Bane takes his style from a mentor who we don’t see his relationship with him at all yet are supposed to believe he cared about him within his five minutes or less of screentime. Cared enough to take up his hat and his mantle. I get he was left in charge of the gang, but they didn’t show that either, yet his guys come to pick him up once the transport arrives?? Then it’s straight to the Police Station? I have no doubt Bane would look up to someone who gave him a roof over his head when he was homeless and was starving, but I just wish we had seen more. Why he cared so much about his passing.

He ditched his friend right off the bat for a guy he just met. I mean, I guess it makes sense he could do that for his love of credits, and his fear of the cops, but that was the first betrayal, and it was Bane betraying Niro and not the other way around.

Arin was cool enough in her own right but the very first scene we see her she is already holding her stomach like she preggo. She was worried from the outset about telling Bane she’s knocked up, and that’s all she was there for—to serve as a plot device between two men.

The fact she leaves Bane for his best friend turned enemy after they meet one time. Did you even love Bane? And of all the people to marry, why Niro? Is it because of closeness to Bane you chose him? Is it because you didn’t want your child to grow up a bastard and fatherless? Smells like teen pregnancy and a shit situation for a girl caught between a rock and a hard place.

Thug / cop / good guy / bad guy trope with a love interest caught in the middle so cliché and overdone and did not like, tbh.

Why was Bane so delulu about Arin wanting to see him after being in prison for so many years and no one heard anything about her or seen her? Yeah, we can say he didn’t get messages in prison, but really?? No one told him anything??

Niro says she died a few years ago—did she die while “giving birth?” Did passing that huge ass egg kill her?

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF SCREEN?

Colby. I cannot get behind the name Colby, I am sorry. I see people’s reasonings for their acceptance of it and just no, not for me.

Why was he already called Cad? Why no backstory as to why he renamed himself Cad Bane? Shouldn’t there have been a lead up to that? It’s literally just a nickname he goes by? How unoriginal. I expected more.

They did not show how he got so good with blasters. Did Lazlo teach him offscreen somewhere? I suppose we’re supposed to guess or use inference here, but not all viewers are that smart HAHA.

Where did he get the accent from all of a sudden? Did he steal that from Lazlo too? Kid Bane didn’t talk that way but all of a sudden young adult Bane does.

The whole “you took everything from me” bit is still kind of a weird thing to say. I know fandom is explaining it in different ways. I just have to assume he means his freedom, his girl, his right to vengeance, his right to choose in terms of Arin stopping him from another duel and that it was stolen out from under him. But that’s not Niro’s fault??

They never explained “why” Arin couldn’t tell Bane. Was it because she was afraid of what he would say? Again we have to assume here. Of course the man would be conflicted, and he’s a known hothead.

Why did they say he got off on a technicality?? Are murderers not given life sentences in Star Wars?? Why not a prison break scene—much more fitting. Lazy writing, imo. But. They only had so much time I guess.

What the fuck was the point of making him a dad?? Are they going to revisit this in the future? Is he going to have—god forbid—a redemption arc?? Is he going to have to face-off against his own kid, and maybe show just how much more of a bastard he is ( hope so )?

This story in and of itself did not convince me of why he is the way that he is. If anything it showed he does care about people, like Arin, and even briefly his “son” before he is turned away. So how does that explain how he is so ruthless, coldblooded, a baby kidnapper, etc? Of course I guess that is up for us to decide, and decide we will. I can only imagine it erodes his psyche overtime, what with regret and all, and that lingering knowledge of fuck I have a kid out there—unless yeah, no big deal. Didn’t actually give a fuck about his girlfriend beyond her being some kind of prize to be won, and he just … writes him off. We can INFER it is for the best; he thinks he would be terrible as a dad; he knows he couldn’t raise the boy for the lifestyle he chose .. but again. Why. Just why. This wasn’t needed.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOBA VS. BANE ARC. IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

AND IF HE CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIS OWN KID UNDER HIS WING, WHY WOULD HE TAKE UP JANGO'S?? Because he owed him a favor?? So he didn't owe Arin anything then?? HmMMmMM

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deepbluespace4 · 5 days ago

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That too! And that...mischief, if it makes sense. The mocking tone. Something. Okay this latter was a serious matter, but before that maybe.

Thug / cop / good guy / bad guy trope with a love interest caught in the middle so cliché and overdone and did not like, tbh.

Niro says she died a few years ago—did she die while “giving birth?” Did passing that huge ass egg kill her?

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF SCREEN?

Colby. I cannot get behind the name Colby, I am sorry. I see people’s reasonings for their acceptance of it and just no, not for me.

They did not show how he got so good with blasters. Did Lazlo teach him offscreen somewhere? I suppose we’re supposed to guess or use inference here, but not all viewers are that smart HAHA.

Where did he get the accent from all of a sudden? Did he steal that from Lazlo too? Kid Bane didn’t talk that way but all of a sudden young adult Bane does.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOBA VS. BANE ARC. IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

AND IF HE CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIS OWN KID UNDER HIS WING, WHY WOULD HE TAKE UP JANGO'S?? Because he owed him a favor?? So he didn't owe Arin anything then?? HmMMmMM

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deepbluespace4 · 5 days ago

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Yeah, no time...and absolute zero chemistry between characters. In TBB I kinda understood his extra grumpy attitude because his main source of fun, so to speak, is gone. But here? Where was he?...Maybe in the first episode when they were kids I felt his attitude a few times. But that's it.

Thug / cop / good guy / bad guy trope with a love interest caught in the middle so cliché and overdone and did not like, tbh.

Niro says she died a few years ago—did she die while “giving birth?” Did passing that huge ass egg kill her?

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF SCREEN?

Colby. I cannot get behind the name Colby, I am sorry. I see people’s reasonings for their acceptance of it and just no, not for me.

They did not show how he got so good with blasters. Did Lazlo teach him offscreen somewhere? I suppose we’re supposed to guess or use inference here, but not all viewers are that smart HAHA.

Where did he get the accent from all of a sudden? Did he steal that from Lazlo too? Kid Bane didn’t talk that way but all of a sudden young adult Bane does.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOBA VS. BANE ARC. IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

AND IF HE CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIS OWN KID UNDER HIS WING, WHY WOULD HE TAKE UP JANGO'S?? Because he owed him a favor?? So he didn't owe Arin anything then?? HmMMmMM

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deepbluespace4 · 5 days ago

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I feel you. Did you notice how only the bare minimum of dialogue was written? So lazy, so basic. Just enough to give information of what you want to convey, but no personality at all. From anyone. I understand they had little time but I barely ever felt like this with TCW.

Thug / cop / good guy / bad guy trope with a love interest caught in the middle so cliché and overdone and did not like, tbh.

Niro says she died a few years ago—did she die while “giving birth?” Did passing that huge ass egg kill her?

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF SCREEN?

Colby. I cannot get behind the name Colby, I am sorry. I see people’s reasonings for their acceptance of it and just no, not for me.

They did not show how he got so good with blasters. Did Lazlo teach him offscreen somewhere? I suppose we’re supposed to guess or use inference here, but not all viewers are that smart HAHA.

Where did he get the accent from all of a sudden? Did he steal that from Lazlo too? Kid Bane didn’t talk that way but all of a sudden young adult Bane does.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOBA VS. BANE ARC. IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

AND IF HE CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIS OWN KID UNDER HIS WING, WHY WOULD HE TAKE UP JANGO'S?? Because he owed him a favor?? So he didn't owe Arin anything then?? HmMMmMM

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deepbluespace4 · 5 days ago

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Good writing! For fuck's sake Sin, ignore. By all means. Go with your own. This new structure-less mess does not deserve to be taken seriously imo. Honesty I prepared myself for so long because I kinda figured out almost the whole of it beforehand but it's so bland I don't really feel anything I was afraid of.

Thug / cop / good guy / bad guy trope with a love interest caught in the middle so cliché and overdone and did not like, tbh.

Niro says she died a few years ago—did she die while “giving birth?” Did passing that huge ass egg kill her?

WHY DID THEY HAVE TO KILL HER OFF SCREEN?

Colby. I cannot get behind the name Colby, I am sorry. I see people’s reasonings for their acceptance of it and just no, not for me.

They did not show how he got so good with blasters. Did Lazlo teach him offscreen somewhere? I suppose we’re supposed to guess or use inference here, but not all viewers are that smart HAHA.

Where did he get the accent from all of a sudden? Did he steal that from Lazlo too? Kid Bane didn’t talk that way but all of a sudden young adult Bane does.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN THE BOBA VS. BANE ARC. IT WAS RIGHT THERE.

AND IF HE CAN'T EVEN TAKE HIS OWN KID UNDER HIS WING, WHY WOULD HE TAKE UP JANGO'S?? Because he owed him a favor?? So he didn't owe Arin anything then?? HmMMmMM

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