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pov you have to tell them their 7 minutes are up
from the highschool/college au comic by @codgay. You've interrupted bird meme #468
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the way that forever could've had a chance with phil if he wasnt so stuck up with brunim..and the fact that today forever mentioned stuff that he loved about phil, not brunim but phil himself... and even then phil just kept reminding him that he wont correspond to him cuz forever only likes him cuz he looks like brunim
and yeah! he's right! its shitty that someone you care about only seems to be interested in you by your looks, i dont blame phil for holding that against him. but it feels like phil keeps reminding himself that he cant correspond forever's feelings cuz he knows they're not genuine
and the thing is, some of them are genuine, if you move forever's weird relationship out of the day (and its not me being delusional rn,, probably a little) he does have actual feelings for phil himself, hell we've seen him multiple times actually praise phil, or going out his way to admire phil for his little quirks or protectiveness
but then the brunim thing always comes back, its always a lingering thing in their relationsip that stops phil from getting too close to forever, he needs to build that wall cuz he knows he wont get genuine love out of that relationship. and while for some it might be true, there was sojme genuine love from forever slipping out, but phil will always dismiss it cuz he built up that wall already
and he kept repeating it when forever was in that chair, not only to make sure forever understood but also to keep reminding himself that he cant let that happen
anyway philever is dead when i say this dead im holding on this ship on a lifeline
#look i am a q!Forever apologist first and a human second but like#forever was never going to get phil with how he was acting#but maybe.... post rejection#when they can grow together without the weird dynamic in the way...#who knows
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Philever is not dead, just different ( i hope...)
I have so many thoughts about Philever after the GuapoDuo marriage and honestly? I don’t think it’s as dead as people believe, is it changed and is the dynamic different? 100% but I don’t think that’s necessarily a bad thing. Like to begin with q!Forevers obsession towards q!Philza wasn’t healthy, like before the wedding (especially in the last few interactions) q!Forever was either:
1) actively trying to gaslight Philza into believing that he is or at least was Brunim
OR
2) was so delusional that he genuinely thought they were the same person
Both are terrible foundations to build a relationship on. If Philever ever became canon with its dynamic before the wedding, I honestly couldn’t see that ever being a healthy relationship. Was it kinda cute watching Forever be so helplessly in love? Definitely, but it was also kind of just sad. Now that the ship (as it stood) has been so thoroughly destroyed I see it as an opportunity for q!Forever and q!Phil to get to know each other as people and not... whatever they were before (definitely not themselves that’s for sure).
The wedding to many may seem like the absolute end of the ship, but I think it’s just the end of the first chapter. How we saw Forever treating Phil during his confession was unlike anything we had seen before, it was like Forever was actually seeing Phil and not Brunim. It was genuinely the first bit of clarity we had seen from Forever in regards to Phil in a long time, he was actually listening to was he said (unfortunately what Phil had to say may not have been the nicest for him but anyway), he complimented something about Phil something completely independent from Brunim and even the LOVE shirt had Phils face NOT Brunims. Like come on this is new stuff guys this is Forever appreciating Phil as Phil and not just Brunim 2.0.
q!Phil from the start of their interactions found q!Forever amusing and seems to enjoy having him around as much as he jokes, he admires him as a person and takes notice of his dedication (not just in reguards to his wooing of Philza but also how dedicated he is to the eggs and the server as a whole). There is a mutual respect that has been unable to flourish into a genuine connection and friendship between the cubes because Forever never allowed Philza to get off the defensive (Like how can genuine connection bloom between them when Forever was constantly trying to manipulate and misconstrue Philzas words and actions into anything romantic?). Now that Forever has had his delusions shattered and gained a sense of self-respect (hopefully) there is potential for them to rebuild in a healthier way.
Do I think the cubes will ever actually get together? Not really no, But I am also genuinely surprised with how much PhilZa has been opening up to more roleplay opportunities, who knows maybe romance could be on the table down the track, consequently I wouldn’t be surprised if something happened between them eventually (perhaps something similar to the McYum date?). If we follow what Quackity has been saying about the QSMP its barely started, q!Forever and q!Philza will have plenty of time to grow together and grow closer once again. Plus with how loyal q!Forever is I doubt he will be able to just drop Phil altogether realistically.
Have faith my fellow delusional shippers we have a long ride to go and I honestly am really excited to see where this goes from here.
#philever#caramelduo#sugarduo#what even is their ship name these days?#they are living in my head rent free fr#Forever is honestly such an interesting character and i am so excited to see how this effects him even beyond the ship
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