This is a side log to post AU ideas, general headcanons, and talk some ships I love.This will have beast x ancient content so beware if you don’t care for this.A few things might relate to roleplays I’m doing. And I’m open to doing rps for the ideas I share. Please just ask. There might be nsfw related content please beware
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Sorry but A/B/O au is controlling me
I like non-traditional dynamics and like adding in some gender conflicts especially after reading after a Twisted wonderland fanfic with the isekia protag not having a dynamic going to a abo world. It was a fun thing that pulled me back into the AU. Nevertheless, I do think it can be used for cool character interactions rather than just sex stuff.
For one chance, I’m not sure if cookies under the witches had the abo dynamics, but I think that is a fun idea that they just had the scents and interactions those have. Just not the bottom parts until after the witches left EarthBread to its devices.
One aspect I want to clarify for how they work in my version.
People who can sire a child are : male alphas, female alphas , male betas, and male omegas.
People who can carry a child are : female alphas, female betas, female omegas, and male omegas.
The best odds of a child come from Male Alpha and Female Omega, Female Alpha and Male Omegas (either way of who is carrier and sire), and Male Beta and Female Beta. Female Alphas have a low carrier rate with male alphas and betas. Similarly, Male Omegas have a low side rate with female betas and omegas.
However, FA and MO are not treated very kindly by the rest. Female Alphas don’t get accepted by Male Betas and Alphas easily (bc they are girls) but the same happens with Female Betas and Omegas (they are alphas) . Same is true of Male Omegas (male versus female and omega vs beta/alpha), but the two groups still get separated by their own differences too. The only benefit is that Alpha Females are more plentiful so they aren’t as discriminated as Male Omegas.
In the past, there was an equal distribution of the six groups, but over time Alpha ratios became more 2:1 in skewing to male while Omega ratios became more 1:4 skewing to female. Betas are roughly 1:1. As a whole, the alpha, beta, and omega ratios go in that order 2:4:1.
I do not like the idea of stereotyping characters into roles. I can think of interesting story reasons for ancients and beasts in any dynamic and plan to go into this for each of them. However, if I had to give a confirmed dynamic for each as a group
Ancients - Beasts
Dark Cacao O , Mystic Flour B
Golden Cheese O, Burning Spice O
Pure Vanilla B, Shadow Milk O (I subscribe to non gender confined SM, so this is just his ‘base’ dynamic like his ‘base’ gender is male)
Hollyberry A, Eternal Sugar A
White Lily A, Silent Salt A/B (just off of vibes, might change after the update)
To be clear, I can see them as any dynamic and can think of cool ways that it can affect their lives. Plan to go over those for each character and which I like more on an individual basis.
Also, I just realized by that there is no AO couples in this. That was not intentional, but Hell Yeah!!
Anyways this ended up more on world building of abo than crk adjacent, but I promise this will help for later.
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Cookie evolution theory
(This includes brief mention of child birth, infant death, and allusions to still birth. Not really, it is brought up but not deeply. Just want to be clear)
Originally cookies were only created by being baked by the witches. They could sacrifice part of their dough if they wished for a child at special ovens (ie: places like the oven Red Velvet was baking the cake army) at which witches might use the dough to make them a child. Otherwise, cookies are sent down in wrapped bags and baskets at a variety of ages.
After the witches disappear from their society, cookies began using their own dough to make children. Eventually they also gained the ability to procreate in the traditional sense. In the past, cookies had breasts due to the same reasons they had frosting hair: variety and aesthetic.
There are differences between doughling (made from breaking off pieces of dough) and baby (made from procreation.
Doughling:
- needs dough from a living cookie, can be only one or multiple (the people who’s dough is used doesn’t need to be involved in baking)
- all parents need to recuperate after sacrificing dough pieces
- more control of how baby comes out
- higher mortality rate (doughling is very soft and needs to handle with care until their dough hardens. Also, life powder in doughling might not be enough to sustain life.)
Baby:
- needs exactly two cookies (one to sire, one to carry)
- the carrier is vulnerable during and after incubation
- baby comes out with hardener dough so less vulnerable
- very up in the air how child comes out in terms of flavor
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NEVER GIVE UP
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That’s good to hear! \(*u*)/
Ohhhh no, saw someone misunderstand the symbolism of closed eyes in relation to truth...for Pure Vanilla it's avoidance of the truth (closing his eyes to the unpleasant truths about himself and others), for the Fount of Knowledge it's being unknowing (not yet aware of the truth of cookiekind's nature nor of the truths that would eventually cause them to snap), and for Sage of Truth it's unquestioning faith (cult leader imagery, blind faith.) Shrimple as that <- no my opinion is not the be-all end-all, but sometimes you just can't overthink things too much imo
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Oh dear. Seems I also misunderstood in part. I saw it like this:
Shadow Milk is known for many eyes wide open and staring. He sees all, the truths the lies and all that lies between them.
Pure Vanilla does not open his eyes open. He only knows what goes on around him.
In the spire, Shadow Milk forces his eyes open. Pure Vanilla sees all of what Shadow Milk could. His sense of self chipped and cracked.
When he awakens, he knows all that Shadow Milk does, but unlike the jester, he is able to choose what he focused on for that is the only way to survive in this world.
Also, it is him turning his sights inward. With nothing else to focus on, Pure Vanilla can only see the truths of himself, who he is, was, and will be.
Ohhhh no, saw someone misunderstand the symbolism of closed eyes in relation to truth...for Pure Vanilla it's avoidance of the truth (closing his eyes to the unpleasant truths about himself and others), for the Fount of Knowledge it's being unknowing (not yet aware of the truth of cookiekind's nature nor of the truths that would eventually cause them to snap), and for Sage of Truth it's unquestioning faith (cult leader imagery, blind faith.) Shrimple as that <- no my opinion is not the be-all end-all, but sometimes you just can't overthink things too much imo
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Do you plan on writing a fic or drawing a comic for this au?
If I ever get into digital art, I might do scenes for it. For now though,on the drawing side, I say I’ll only do little sketches for it (I have a few made from my rp I might post later)
On fic writing, I want to, but I’ve never written more than a chapter or two before for fandom. It most likely would be very much a oneshot collection (that would not be concrete to the au canon) for Connecting Halves until I get enough to stitch a proper story with from the fragment. However, I’m putting that until I get keyboard to type with.
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Actually, he doesn’t realize Pure Vanilla is the same cookie he loved in the past until after he enters the tower and gets a good look at him. He does try to mess with PV’s memories but he fights through them just like he does in canon. It’s only after he becomes Recluse doesShadow Milk figure out the disguise he used when he first meets PV; by then, Recluse is just angry at and done with Shadow Milk thinking he is trying to make him believe more lies and playing a cruel prank.
I’m not sure how the reveal goes for PV since I’m basing that part on my rp of this au, so I can’t say anything on the ShadowVanilla front is too solid.
However yes, PV does tell him to be himself after awakening. He is willing to fall in love with him (over and over again, no matter how where or when -yeah that song just sticks in my mind for this scene) so he wants Shadow Milk to be himself. It would not be right for Shmilk to want PV to act like his young self (he does act similar but there are difference), so it’s not right for PV to want Shmilk to act like Fount for his love.
(Mystic Flour is actually hiding her jealousy. She (as my rp partner said) wants her suburban life with a child and dog. Silent Salt and Burning Spice are absolutely trying to cleave Shmilk’s head off while Eternal Sugar demands for the spell. Shmilk would give it for a price but PV said no)
(The ancients are very worried since it’s magically burning rather than a formal wedding agreement, but as long as the beast treats PV well, they will be happy with his happiness. They do all give a shovel talk, and White Lily still tries to find a way to undo it.)
HAIII ITS ME YAPPER !!! I LOVE THIS AU SM I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I WANNA ASK I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND!
First is that do that when the Ancients go back to the present do they remember their time with the Virtues? Or will the witches/Souljams do an asshole move and make them forget them. But if they do still remember, do the Ancients recognize the Virtues now Beasts in the present time? Obviously some wouldn't really recognize easily cause of the new forms, but I'd think Dark Cacao, Golden Cheese, and Hollyberry would have a sense of familiarity when first seeing their old friends, and if they do recognize them, will the Ancients refuse to fight? Or at least try to cuz they still pose a threat? If the events of canon still happen with some difference, would they all pull the same shit which is like "Join me, this isn't you and I know it." Kinda thing?
And (the possibility that they still remember their time w the Virtues) once they do defeat them, what will they think after that? Lots of empathy right? Conflicted thoughts, maybe. Especially since they have to pick up pieces from before receiving their Souljams from them and after and the time searching for the Virtues, but since time passed, to the Ancients it seemed like the world deemed them as never existing which hurts them, but they now meet them again as broken souls, and they pick up hints that there was some sort of time shinnanigans happened cause the Beasts kept on hinting how long they've been stuck in a tree and been look for them (the ancients).
And by connecting from that, Shamil would make sure that Pure Vanilla stays with him forever, cause of Shamil realizing that PV is his old crush back then, but if PV knew who Shamil was, would PV say something about it? Cause if we're following what happens in canon would that mean PV allowed himself to become Truthless Recluse just so he can understand Shamil's pain better? And once he awakens (I assume they do!) PV would have made a well thought out speech to Shamil, and probably having SLIGHTLY a better chance at him succeeding on being friends. (But obviously this would hurt Shamil more cuz he did deceive him and also he has romantic feelings for PV so it would've DEFO hurt a lot...)
And a small question for Etsuga's plans, would she brainwash the Hollyberrians like in canon when the teleport her to her garden or do they let her have their free spirited mind in the garden, when they talk to Pavlova? (I assume the second option right?) And despite everything she did for Hollyberry, I'd assume that when Hollyberry wanted to leave she had a much bigger breakdown than in canon :((
They keep their memories however given the absurdity of going back in time, they question how real it was. Also, with the Virtues kinda being erased from history outside of BeastYeast, they can’t really confirm it. In addition, a few didn’t realize they were in the past (Golden, maybe Holly) or knew they were talking to a Virtue (Golden, Pure, kind of Cacao). So yeah… they remember.
In terms of recognizing the beast version, that varies.
3. Shadow Milk’s whole memory manipulation and shapeshifting causes Pure Vanilla to not believe the person he met in the past (who talked about Fount as a different person) is the Fount and Shadow Milk by proxy.
2. Golden Cheese sees the resemblance and assumes she was crushing on the original owners son/creation.
1. Dark Cacao recognizes her as Granter but does not know she and the priestess disguise are two people.
5. White Lily learn this throw Elder Faerie who told her about the Beast being the Virtues (she learns during her stalking the Knight is a Virtue.)
4. Hollyberry knew she was a Virtue and knew what she looked and acted like. This corrupted version is so similar yet different.
There desire to fight is still there.
4. Hollyberry kinda wants to just hug Eternal but she also hurt the garden residents and has put Holly’s people in danger. Thus, she has to try to talk with Eternal though mist stuff follows canon’s major strokes in regards to interactions between them
2. Golden at first is even more angry thinking Burning Spice killed her crush or did not care about it. Overall, even when she realizes they are one in the same, canon still happens with a few adjustments like Spice talking about keeping her caged and how she should prove her worth as she once claimed, but by the end she realizes the truth and warns him that he is no longer worthy of her. Now the roles are reversed so he should earn her queenly hand.
3. Pure Vanilla doesn’t realize until really late in the game and is basically his canon self. Shadow Milk thinks PV forgot about their past interactions (insanity and clouded memories make him forget about the disguised thing for a while and by the time Shmilk remembers the disguise PV cannot trust his words. His Recluse self basically rejects the idea outright and is very antagonistic about Shmilk trying to ‘pretend’ to be that friend.
1. Dark Cacao is guilted with the backstory realizing his part in the situation but he is a king. He needs to save his citizens, so he lives with the guilt of needing to defeat her just as he does with him fighting and injuring his son. He is more sad knowing the priestess he befriended died and when he learns they were one and the same…. That leaves him more depressed and confused.
5. Can’t say much for White Lily without the update. She definitely projects the guilt of her own past and how she does think she deserves forgiveness on Silent Salt.
Actually for the ShadowVanilla end scene, the major idea is this: Pure Vanilla kind of finishes the wedding/binding ritual Shadow Milk tried to make before he disappeared in the past. Him stating they are meant to be together triggers his side of the binding to be complete. Now, they are doubly bond; Shadow Milk is both over the moon that they are finally wed and devastated his plan failed. The honeymoon period is wild.
Most would be utterly brainwashed, but the royal family would not be. They most likely are to the same extent Hollyberry was as in they overlook weird details but otherwise very conscious. Also, yes, her breakdown is worse with Hollyberry leaving and the aftermath is sadder with her kind-of son Pavlova leaving after aging up with the excuse to ‘convince’ them to come back.
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The witches don’t really see the cookies as any more than dolls to mess around with; they don’t really think they have complex emotions and drives. They really don’t think about how cruel they are being with their ideas and actions
Also- Oh dear I guess I was too subtle with EternalBerry corruption hints so here I go:
Bringer of Happiness has her moments like Fount. She does not like when Hollyberry leaves the garden. While Holly always return in one piece, the injuries makes Bringer remember Holly’s mortality (she gets worse about it than even Fount) and that is why she started with the preservative jars. She planned to originally use them when Holly was close to crumbling (by age or injury) so she could still visit her in the dreamworld forevermore. When she disappears, Bringer starts using those intrusive thoughts she had to keep more cookies in her garden to keep
In addition, Knight of Solidarity is basically gathering all their courage for that one moment when they finally go up to White Lily. They get worried about cookies convincing her to stop following them or monsters and bandits attacking her leading to thoughts of cutting down any dangers to her.
I know there are a lot of time travel au ideas, but here my hat to throw in the ring. (This came from talking to an roleplaying scenario that I and another user came up with)
For reasons undecided, the ancients all get sent to the past before the beasts became corrupted. This occurs before they get the soul jams however this does not stop the virtues from feeling drawn to them.
For ShadowVanilla, Pure Vanilla had been foraging in the forest away from his traveling group before he fell through a portal into an unfamiliar forest. When he dropped into the past, Milk felt a disturbance and decided to figure it out. Keeping his identity a secret for the most part, Milk takes PV to a cabin in the mountain. (That’s all I’ll say on this front)
For EternalBerry, I’m not decided on what Hollyberry had been doing nor where exactly she fell in the past other than close enough to easily get to the garden of Happiness (This came from the rp partner ->) However, unlike the rest, Bringer of Happiness does not disguise who she is to her and upon learning her role, Hollyberry picked her up into a swinging hug complimenting her. This was the moment Bringer got her girl crush for the buff adventurer. Of all the ancients, I thought having Hollyberry be the only one to know the beast as their virtue during their travel to the past was cool. (Pure Vanilla learns from Milk that Fount of Knowledge exists but not that they are one in the same)
For SilentLily, I let White Lily be her freak (affectionate) self for this one. She was in the middle of traveling so she had the most supplies on her. When she fell into the past, she didn’t notice at first (thought she got teleported) and traveled around trying to figure out where she was. Eventually, she runs into the Knight of Solidarity and decides to research(*cough* stalk) them at a distance. Said knight knew they were being followed but given the draw their souljam had to her, Salt didn’t care. They used a proxy form to stalk her in turn which ends up in a silly but messed up situation between them. (All virtues are a little messed up but in this case White Lily reacts to her draw to the virtue with a desire to research. PV and Hollyberry reacts by trying to befriend)
For BurningCheese, Golden had just found some treasure before she dropped into the past. Lucky for her, she dropped in an abandoned house which she decides to use as a base of operations. In a show of restraint, Herald of Change took a while to go after her. He felt the draw and desperately wanted to find the source, but he had a job to actively do and needed to wait. When he did go find her, Golden Cheese had become a merchant and established herself in the kingdom he was working on. They have a weird reverse Aladdin-esque relationship because she originally thinks he is homeless/a traveler down on their luck and lets him stay with her as muscle (even if she can kick butt, it gets annoying having to do it every other day). Eventually she realizes that Spice isn’t who he says he is and assumes he is the prince of the place trying to learn about the common people. Unlike her fellow ancients, she is upfront about her wanting him romantically. She confesses she knows he is a prince and promises that one day she will become a merchant of such wealth that no one can claim she is unworthy of him. Spice says she is already worthy but she says that a treasure like him deserves someone who is an equal which she strives to be.
For MysticCacao, Dark Cacao had been in the middle of a fight before he got portales to the past. A kind village near the base of Flour’s mountain patched him up and gave him a place to stay. At first, he decides to protect the village to repay their kindness until he can finds a way to return home. Like Spice, Flour tries ignore her draw as she has visitors who want the Granter of Volition to grant their wishes. At some point, she uses a projection (think a more accurate version of that weird ghostly version of Dark Cacao) to go down the mountain to see what was calling her. The villagers think her a priestess of the temple and Dark Cacao ends up befriending her. It is a very introvert like friendship where they mostly stay around each other quietly observing each other and the world while occasionally infodumping. Flour tries to get him to come up the temple but he has devoted himself to his two goals: protect the village and find a way home. At some point, those searching out the Granter of Volition let out their anger about the wait on the villagers causing Dark Cacao to fight and chastise them for their actions. Flour uses this as an excuse to order Dark Cacao to come up to her temple which he complies with. He rejects her offer to join the temple once more and states he wishes to achieve his goals by his own efforts since he doesn’t want to be in debted to her. However, he does agree to the position working at the base of the mountain- it gives him the right to manage the visitors who come by which is helpful for protecting the village. Flour uses her magic proxy to continue speaking with him.
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May not be a complete lover for romantic poly ancients and romantic poly beast, but yes!!! :D
Just make the make the most complicated scenario possible!
do you guys see the vision.
#silly idea#for the drama#the beast were so separated in the past it takes dating their ancients to become friends againdon’t start out#now a few of them develop romance that they never had before and are worried it will mess up their relationship with the ancients#ancients don’t realize the beasts are unaware they are in a polycule or that polycules are kinda normal in the current age.#polybeasts and polyancients connected through the beast/ancient pairs#throw in pitaya and/or stormbringer just to make it worse#multishipping#being a mutlishipper means being a drama lover
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HAIII ITS ME YAPPER !!! I LOVE THIS AU SM I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS I WANNA ASK I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND!
First is that do that when the Ancients go back to the present do they remember their time with the Virtues? Or will the witches/Souljams do an asshole move and make them forget them. But if they do still remember, do the Ancients recognize the Virtues now Beasts in the present time? Obviously some wouldn't really recognize easily cause of the new forms, but I'd think Dark Cacao, Golden Cheese, and Hollyberry would have a sense of familiarity when first seeing their old friends, and if they do recognize them, will the Ancients refuse to fight? Or at least try to cuz they still pose a threat? If the events of canon still happen with some difference, would they all pull the same shit which is like "Join me, this isn't you and I know it." Kinda thing?
And (the possibility that they still remember their time w the Virtues) once they do defeat them, what will they think after that? Lots of empathy right? Conflicted thoughts, maybe. Especially since they have to pick up pieces from before receiving their Souljams from them and after and the time searching for the Virtues, but since time passed, to the Ancients it seemed like the world deemed them as never existing which hurts them, but they now meet them again as broken souls, and they pick up hints that there was some sort of time shinnanigans happened cause the Beasts kept on hinting how long they've been stuck in a tree and been look for them (the ancients).
And by connecting from that, Shamil would make sure that Pure Vanilla stays with him forever, cause of Shamil realizing that PV is his old crush back then, but if PV knew who Shamil was, would PV say something about it? Cause if we're following what happens in canon would that mean PV allowed himself to become Truthless Recluse just so he can understand Shamil's pain better? And once he awakens (I assume they do!) PV would have made a well thought out speech to Shamil, and probably having SLIGHTLY a better chance at him succeeding on being friends. (But obviously this would hurt Shamil more cuz he did deceive him and also he has romantic feelings for PV so it would've DEFO hurt a lot...)
And a small question for Etsuga's plans, would she brainwash the Hollyberrians like in canon when the teleport her to her garden or do they let her have their free spirited mind in the garden, when they talk to Pavlova? (I assume the second option right?) And despite everything she did for Hollyberry, I'd assume that when Hollyberry wanted to leave she had a much bigger breakdown than in canon :((
They keep their memories however given the absurdity of going back in time, they question how real it was. Also, with the Virtues kinda being erased from history outside of BeastYeast, they can’t really confirm it. In addition, a few didn’t realize they were in the past (Golden, maybe Holly) or knew they were talking to a Virtue (Golden, Pure, kind of Cacao). So yeah… they remember.
In terms of recognizing the beast version, that varies.
3. Shadow Milk’s whole memory manipulation and shapeshifting causes Pure Vanilla to not believe the person he met in the past (who talked about Fount as a different person) is the Fount and Shadow Milk by proxy.
2. Golden Cheese sees the resemblance and assumes she was crushing on the original owners son/creation.
1. Dark Cacao recognizes her as Granter but does not know she and the priestess disguise are two people.
5. White Lily learn this throw Elder Faerie who told her about the Beast being the Virtues (she learns during her stalking the Knight is a Virtue.)
4. Hollyberry knew she was a Virtue and knew what she looked and acted like. This corrupted version is so similar yet different.
There desire to fight is still there.
4. Hollyberry kinda wants to just hug Eternal but she also hurt the garden residents and has put Holly’s people in danger. Thus, she has to try to talk with Eternal though mist stuff follows canon’s major strokes in regards to interactions between them
2. Golden at first is even more angry thinking Burning Spice killed her crush or did not care about it. Overall, even when she realizes they are one in the same, canon still happens with a few adjustments like Spice talking about keeping her caged and how she should prove her worth as she once claimed, but by the end she realizes the truth and warns him that he is no longer worthy of her. Now the roles are reversed so he should earn her queenly hand.
3. Pure Vanilla doesn’t realize until really late in the game and is basically his canon self. Shadow Milk thinks PV forgot about their past interactions (insanity and clouded memories make him forget about the disguised thing for a while and by the time Shmilk remembers the disguise PV cannot trust his words. His Recluse self basically rejects the idea outright and is very antagonistic about Shmilk trying to ‘pretend’ to be that friend.
1. Dark Cacao is guilted with the backstory realizing his part in the situation but he is a king. He needs to save his citizens, so he lives with the guilt of needing to defeat her just as he does with him fighting and injuring his son. He is more sad knowing the priestess he befriended died and when he learns they were one and the same…. That leaves him more depressed and confused.
5. Can’t say much for White Lily without the update. She definitely projects the guilt of her own past and how she does think she deserves forgiveness on Silent Salt.
Actually for the ShadowVanilla end scene, the major idea is this: Pure Vanilla kind of finishes the wedding/binding ritual Shadow Milk tried to make before he disappeared in the past. Him stating they are meant to be together triggers his side of the binding to be complete. Now, they are doubly bond; Shadow Milk is both over the moon that they are finally wed and devastated his plan failed. The honeymoon period is wild.
Most would be utterly brainwashed, but the royal family would not be. They most likely are to the same extent Hollyberry was as in they overlook weird details but otherwise very conscious. Also, yes, her breakdown is worse with Hollyberry leaving and the aftermath is sadder with her kind-of son Pavlova leaving after aging up with the excuse to ‘convince’ them to come back.
#beast x ancient#connecting halves#burningcheese#shadowvanilla#silentlily#crk au#eternalberry#mysticcacao#question answer#hi yapper#I loved your additions :)
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Don’t be sorry about ‘yapping’ because this isn’t just ‘yapping’! Thank you for being so excited about my little au. You even gave me some idea to play with for events to build connections between the young Ancients and Virtues.
Also, yes, I wanted BurningCheese to have a healthy relationship in the past to juxtapose it to the future events. And, you thinking about how this could Harold as a person is good. While he still corrupts, the purpose Golden was supposed to fulfill was helping them stay strong and survive until her time came and they could share the burden. The ancients all are supposed to be a positive influence (don’t mind this dehumanization it’s from the witches pov and they aren’t exactly nice) cause they are like emotional support animals or devices, helping the Virtues not boil over in their job. But, when you rip away a support item/animal, you only make stuff worse right because the person got used to the aid and now is angry (rightfully) that you decided they don’t need help like their pain was temporary (it’s not).
Love your thoughts on the EternalBerry side. In her case, Hollyberry would start helping with the garden in my mind. She still goes out and explores, but the garden becomes a place she can safely return to. Bringer of Happiness finds it oh so odd how she always returns to the garden so full of love only to help Bringer with the garden’s guests and get them out and about. In a silly/sad way, Hollyberry’s efforts to give Bringer time to relax makes her fear about being useless and no one needing her; Hollyberry does help her see it’s not all bad and she can find more passions, but that feeling still lingers…. When she leaves, Bringer tries to remember she doesn’t need to be needed but with cookies starting to crumble from the other corruptions going on…. She already lost Hollyberry listening to her advice how could she lose the rest of her little cookies.
Also Pure Vanilla is an outlet for Fount and his desperate need for social interaction. That’s is a very true statement. But like all of the Virtues, Fount struggles not to listen to the ideas pushes him to be more ‘Shadow Milk’-esque. They just love the idea PV will just treat them normal and want to keep his new sheep/dog/cat like cookie to himself. Fount and PV learn he’s from the future the quickest and Fount decides he’s staying. Leading to secret angst, where PV wants to go home while trusting Fount will help him and Fount starting his spiral of manipulation and lies.
(You gave me the mental image of White Lily and Dark Enchantress beefing it out while Silent Salt is shoved to the side lines. Cause the girls are fighting and they can’t exactly speak up while the pair has their spat)
And everything with that Mystic Flour and Dark Cacao idea is great. While I’m not sure how to have that play out given I want him to not know the priestess he first met is the Granter of Volition, I do love the idea. People seeing this odd cookie wanting nothing from the Granter— yet being the closest confident —while not living in the temple… It is a new dynamic to play with compared to the rest. Like Knight and White Lily are stalking each other & Hollyberry and Bringer are working together, (these two know the Virtue things) and Golden Cheese is kinda employing Harold & Pure Vanilla is Fount’s guest (these two don’t). Now we have Dark Cacao knowing and developing a connection with both the Virtue and the disguise.
You know what, this just makes me wonder if I should have Dark Cacao eventually wish for her to take a break for herself soon and accidentally leads to her corruption. She uses that self time he wished for (after he disappears to the present) to go into solitude which leads to that incident in her story. Just the sadness gets doubled. He could protect her this time and her vulnerability came from his attempt to make her relax.
Dark Cacao’s love doomed two of his loved ones due to outside events.
I know there are a lot of time travel au ideas, but here my hat to throw in the ring. (This came from talking to an roleplaying scenario that I and another user came up with)
For reasons undecided, the ancients all get sent to the past before the beasts became corrupted. This occurs before they get the soul jams however this does not stop the virtues from feeling drawn to them.
For ShadowVanilla, Pure Vanilla had been foraging in the forest away from his traveling group before he fell through a portal into an unfamiliar forest. When he dropped into the past, Milk felt a disturbance and decided to figure it out. Keeping his identity a secret for the most part, Milk takes PV to a cabin in the mountain. (That’s all I’ll say on this front)
For EternalBerry, I’m not decided on what Hollyberry had been doing nor where exactly she fell in the past other than close enough to easily get to the garden of Happiness (This came from the rp partner ->) However, unlike the rest, Bringer of Happiness does not disguise who she is to her and upon learning her role, Hollyberry picked her up into a swinging hug complimenting her. This was the moment Bringer got her girl crush for the buff adventurer. Of all the ancients, I thought having Hollyberry be the only one to know the beast as their virtue during their travel to the past was cool. (Pure Vanilla learns from Milk that Fount of Knowledge exists but not that they are one in the same)
For SilentLily, I let White Lily be her freak (affectionate) self for this one. She was in the middle of traveling so she had the most supplies on her. When she fell into the past, she didn’t notice at first (thought she got teleported) and traveled around trying to figure out where she was. Eventually, she runs into the Knight of Solidarity and decides to research(*cough* stalk) them at a distance. Said knight knew they were being followed but given the draw their souljam had to her, Salt didn’t care. They used a proxy form to stalk her in turn which ends up in a silly but messed up situation between them. (All virtues are a little messed up but in this case White Lily reacts to her draw to the virtue with a desire to research. PV and Hollyberry reacts by trying to befriend)
For BurningCheese, Golden had just found some treasure before she dropped into the past. Lucky for her, she dropped in an abandoned house which she decides to use as a base of operations. In a show of restraint, Herald of Change took a while to go after her. He felt the draw and desperately wanted to find the source, but he had a job to actively do and needed to wait. When he did go find her, Golden Cheese had become a merchant and established herself in the kingdom he was working on. They have a weird reverse Aladdin-esque relationship because she originally thinks he is homeless/a traveler down on their luck and lets him stay with her as muscle (even if she can kick butt, it gets annoying having to do it every other day). Eventually she realizes that Spice isn’t who he says he is and assumes he is the prince of the place trying to learn about the common people. Unlike her fellow ancients, she is upfront about her wanting him romantically. She confesses she knows he is a prince and promises that one day she will become a merchant of such wealth that no one can claim she is unworthy of him. Spice says she is already worthy but she says that a treasure like him deserves someone who is an equal which she strives to be.
For MysticCacao, Dark Cacao had been in the middle of a fight before he got portales to the past. A kind village near the base of Flour’s mountain patched him up and gave him a place to stay. At first, he decides to protect the village to repay their kindness until he can finds a way to return home. Like Spice, Flour tries ignore her draw as she has visitors who want the Granter of Volition to grant their wishes. At some point, she uses a projection (think a more accurate version of that weird ghostly version of Dark Cacao) to go down the mountain to see what was calling her. The villagers think her a priestess of the temple and Dark Cacao ends up befriending her. It is a very introvert like friendship where they mostly stay around each other quietly observing each other and the world while occasionally infodumping. Flour tries to get him to come up the temple but he has devoted himself to his two goals: protect the village and find a way home. At some point, those searching out the Granter of Volition let out their anger about the wait on the villagers causing Dark Cacao to fight and chastise them for their actions. Flour uses this as an excuse to order Dark Cacao to come up to her temple which he complies with. He rejects her offer to join the temple once more and states he wishes to achieve his goals by his own efforts since he doesn’t want to be in debted to her. However, he does agree to the position working at the base of the mountain- it gives him the right to manage the visitors who come by which is helpful for protecting the village. Flour uses her magic proxy to continue speaking with him.
#connecting halves#beast x ancient#burningcheese#shadowvanilla#silentlily#mysticcacao#crk au#eternalberry#reblog additions
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Of course! I’m happy you liked it enough to ask!
Do you have a plan for what happens when the beasts/virtues meet their other halves again, like when the ancients are back in their original time?
For Shadow Milk and Pure Vanilla, a vague idea was made when we started the rp, but I won’t say anything for certain. That will develop with the rp. All I will say is Shadow Milk is even more desperate for Pure Vanilla when he realizes he is his crush he thought he accidentally killed.
For the rest, it differs slightly from canon and each other.
If you saw those fake Chinese (I think that was the language) leaks, Mystic Flour absolutely wants to take Dark Cacao as a trophy after she forces him to accept apathy. Then he will be the only person at her side when all others are returned to flour. Maybe Dark Choco and Cloud Haetae will be spared in her grand plan. Even in her apathetic guise, she does still care for some people and she could not destroy the child that appears so much like her love and fell to corruption just as she did, nor her loyal dog-child.
Without deciding if the Beasts could see out of the soul jam and he learns that way. Burning Spice finds out the merchant cookie who confessed to him and disappeared holds the other half of his soul jam. Or not. I can see both ideas being fun. Him not realizing the two, his crush and soul jam thief are one and the same until after he rips her wings. Or him very aware they are and thinking she is just as durable as he was with the soul jam rips them off thinking she could simply regrow them. Either way he is going to have a lot to make up for.
Eternal Sugar is cleaning the garden area she made specially for Hollyberry and where she planned to confess the depths of her feelings. She is more desperate for her to stay giving the last time she let her nervousness and sensibilities win out. When she summons the hollyberrians, she tries to get Pavlova, the Eros to her Aphrodite, to interact with Royalberry and his family. She wants both sides of their families to get along after all. This might make Pavlova to actually join the escape hoping Eternal Sugar will accept it as he staying with his future step-family.
Silent Salt is a mystery to me. There is a reason I spoke little of any interactions between them and White Lily. I want to wait still we have actual confirmed interactions. All I can say is that they is very confused about Dark Enchantress and her minions. She is a part of their love, but she and White Lily the soul jam holder are very much separate as of now.
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Do you have a plan for what happens when the beasts/virtues meet their other halves again, like when the ancients are back in their original time?
For Shadow Milk and Pure Vanilla, a vague idea was made when we started the rp, but I won’t say anything for certain. That will develop with the rp. All I will say is Shadow Milk is even more desperate for Pure Vanilla when he realizes he is his crush he thought he accidentally killed.
For the rest, it differs slightly from canon and each other.
If you saw those fake Chinese (I think that was the language) leaks, Mystic Flour absolutely wants to take Dark Cacao as a trophy after she forces him to accept apathy. Then he will be the only person at her side when all others are returned to flour. Maybe Dark Choco and Cloud Haetae will be spared in her grand plan. Even in her apathetic guise, she does still care for some people and she could not destroy the child that appears so much like her love and fell to corruption just as she did, nor her loyal dog-child.
Without deciding if the Beasts could see out of the soul jam and he learns that way. Burning Spice finds out the merchant cookie who confessed to him and disappeared holds the other half of his soul jam. Or not. I can see both ideas being fun. Him not realizing the two, his crush and soul jam thief are one and the same until after he rips her wings. Or him very aware they are and thinking she is just as durable as he was with the soul jam rips them off thinking she could simply regrow them. Either way he is going to have a lot to make up for.
Eternal Sugar is cleaning the garden area she made specially for Hollyberry and where she planned to confess the depths of her feelings. She is more desperate for her to stay giving the last time she let her nervousness and sensibilities win out. When she summons the hollyberrians, she tries to get Pavlova, the Eros to her Aphrodite, to interact with Royalberry and his family. She wants both sides of their families to get along after all. This might make Pavlova to actually join the escape hoping Eternal Sugar will accept it as he staying with his future step-family.
Silent Salt is a mystery to me. There is a reason I spoke little of any interactions between them and White Lily. I want to wait still we have actual confirmed interactions. All I can say is that they is very confused about Dark Enchantress and her minions. She is a part of their love, but she and White Lily the soul jam holder are very much separate as of now.
#silentlily#beast x ancient#burningcheese#shadowvanilla#eternalberry#connecting halves#question answer#if this doesn’t feel clear#please tell me#I will go over these separately if it makes things clear#mysticcacao
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I know there are a lot of time travel au ideas, but here my hat to throw in the ring. (This came from talking to an roleplaying scenario that I and another user came up with)
For reasons undecided, the ancients all get sent to the past before the beasts became corrupted. This occurs before they get the soul jams however this does not stop the virtues from feeling drawn to them.
For ShadowVanilla, Pure Vanilla had been foraging in the forest away from his traveling group before he fell through a portal into an unfamiliar forest. When he dropped into the past, Milk felt a disturbance and decided to figure it out. Keeping his identity a secret for the most part, Milk takes PV to a cabin in the mountain. (That’s all I’ll say on this front)
For EternalBerry, I’m not decided on what Hollyberry had been doing nor where exactly she fell in the past other than close enough to easily get to the garden of Happiness (This came from the rp partner ->) However, unlike the rest, Bringer of Happiness does not disguise who she is to her and upon learning her role, Hollyberry picked her up into a swinging hug complimenting her. This was the moment Bringer got her girl crush for the buff adventurer. Of all the ancients, I thought having Hollyberry be the only one to know the beast as their virtue during their travel to the past was cool. (Pure Vanilla learns from Milk that Fount of Knowledge exists but not that they are one in the same)
For SilentLily, I let White Lily be her freak (affectionate) self for this one. She was in the middle of traveling so she had the most supplies on her. When she fell into the past, she didn’t notice at first (thought she got teleported) and traveled around trying to figure out where she was. Eventually, she runs into the Knight of Solidarity and decides to research(*cough* stalk) them at a distance. Said knight knew they were being followed but given the draw their souljam had to her, Salt didn’t care. They used a proxy form to stalk her in turn which ends up in a silly but messed up situation between them. (All virtues are a little messed up but in this case White Lily reacts to her draw to the virtue with a desire to research. PV and Hollyberry reacts by trying to befriend)
For BurningCheese, Golden had just found some treasure before she dropped into the past. Lucky for her, she dropped in an abandoned house which she decides to use as a base of operations. In a show of restraint, Herald of Change took a while to go after her. He felt the draw and desperately wanted to find the source, but he had a job to actively do and needed to wait. When he did go find her, Golden Cheese had become a merchant and established herself in the kingdom he was working on. They have a weird reverse Aladdin-esque relationship because she originally thinks he is homeless/a traveler down on their luck and lets him stay with her as muscle (even if she can kick butt, it gets annoying having to do it every other day). Eventually she realizes that Spice isn’t who he says he is and assumes he is the prince of the place trying to learn about the common people. Unlike her fellow ancients, she is upfront about her wanting him romantically. She confesses she knows he is a prince and promises that one day she will become a merchant of such wealth that no one can claim she is unworthy of him. Spice says she is already worthy but she says that a treasure like him deserves someone who is an equal which she strives to be.
For MysticCacao, Dark Cacao had been in the middle of a fight before he got portales to the past. A kind village near the base of Flour’s mountain patched him up and gave him a place to stay. At first, he decides to protect the village to repay their kindness until he can finds a way to return home. Like Spice, Flour tries ignore her draw as she has visitors who want the Granter of Volition to grant their wishes. At some point, she uses a projection (think a more accurate version of that weird ghostly version of Dark Cacao) to go down the mountain to see what was calling her. The villagers think her a priestess of the temple and Dark Cacao ends up befriending her. It is a very introvert like friendship where they mostly stay around each other quietly observing each other and the world while occasionally infodumping. Flour tries to get him to come up the temple but he has devoted himself to his two goals: protect the village and find a way home. At some point, those searching out the Granter of Volition let out their anger about the wait on the villagers causing Dark Cacao to fight and chastise them for their actions. Flour uses this as an excuse to order Dark Cacao to come up to her temple which he complies with. He rejects her offer to join the temple once more and states he wishes to achieve his goals by his own efforts since he doesn’t want to be in debted to her. However, he does agree to the position working at the base of the mountain- it gives him the right to manage the visitors who come by which is helpful for protecting the village. Flour uses her magic proxy to continue speaking with him.
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Yup connecting halves is the au name! I’m happy you liked the tidbit on White Lily/Saint Lily. I love making the ancients have their own messed up qualities.
I know there are a lot of time travel au ideas, but here my hat to throw in the ring. (This came from talking to an roleplaying scenario that I and another user came up with)
For reasons undecided, the ancients all get sent to the past before the beasts became corrupted. This occurs before they get the soul jams however this does not stop the virtues from feeling drawn to them.
For ShadowVanilla, Pure Vanilla had been foraging in the forest away from his traveling group before he fell through a portal into an unfamiliar forest. When he dropped into the past, Milk felt a disturbance and decided to figure it out. Keeping his identity a secret for the most part, Milk takes PV to a cabin in the mountain. (That’s all I’ll say on this front)
For EternalBerry, I’m not decided on what Hollyberry had been doing nor where exactly she fell in the past other than close enough to easily get to the garden of Happiness (This came from the rp partner ->) However, unlike the rest, Bringer of Happiness does not disguise who she is to her and upon learning her role, Hollyberry picked her up into a swinging hug complimenting her. This was the moment Bringer got her girl crush for the buff adventurer. Of all the ancients, I thought having Hollyberry be the only one to know the beast as their virtue during their travel to the past was cool. (Pure Vanilla learns from Milk that Fount of Knowledge exists but not that they are one in the same)
For SilentLily, I let White Lily be her freak (affectionate) self for this one. She was in the middle of traveling so she had the most supplies on her. When she fell into the past, she didn’t notice at first (thought she got teleported) and traveled around trying to figure out where she was. Eventually, she runs into the Knight of Solidarity and decides to research(*cough* stalk) them at a distance. Said knight knew they were being followed but given the draw their souljam had to her, Salt didn’t care. They used a proxy form to stalk her in turn which ends up in a silly but messed up situation between them. (All virtues are a little messed up but in this case White Lily reacts to her draw to the virtue with a desire to research. PV and Hollyberry reacts by trying to befriend)
For BurningCheese, Golden had just found some treasure before she dropped into the past. Lucky for her, she dropped in an abandoned house which she decides to use as a base of operations. In a show of restraint, Herald of Change took a while to go after her. He felt the draw and desperately wanted to find the source, but he had a job to actively do and needed to wait. When he did go find her, Golden Cheese had become a merchant and established herself in the kingdom he was working on. They have a weird reverse Aladdin-esque relationship because she originally thinks he is homeless/a traveler down on their luck and lets him stay with her as muscle (even if she can kick butt, it gets annoying having to do it every other day). Eventually she realizes that Spice isn’t who he says he is and assumes he is the prince of the place trying to learn about the common people. Unlike her fellow ancients, she is upfront about her wanting him romantically. She confesses she knows he is a prince and promises that one day she will become a merchant of such wealth that no one can claim she is unworthy of him. Spice says she is already worthy but she says that a treasure like him deserves someone who is an equal which she strives to be.
For MysticCacao, Dark Cacao had been in the middle of a fight before he got portales to the past. A kind village near the base of Flour’s mountain patched him up and gave him a place to stay. At first, he decides to protect the village to repay their kindness until he can finds a way to return home. Like Spice, Flour tries ignore her draw as she has visitors who want the Granter of Volition to grant their wishes. At some point, she uses a projection (think a more accurate version of that weird ghostly version of Dark Cacao) to go down the mountain to see what was calling her. The villagers think her a priestess of the temple and Dark Cacao ends up befriending her. It is a very introvert like friendship where they mostly stay around each other quietly observing each other and the world while occasionally infodumping. Flour tries to get him to come up the temple but he has devoted himself to his two goals: protect the village and find a way home. At some point, those searching out the Granter of Volition let out their anger about the wait on the villagers causing Dark Cacao to fight and chastise them for their actions. Flour uses this as an excuse to order Dark Cacao to come up to her temple which he complies with. He rejects her offer to join the temple once more and states he wishes to achieve his goals by his own efforts since he doesn’t want to be in debted to her. However, he does agree to the position working at the base of the mountain- it gives him the right to manage the visitors who come by which is helpful for protecting the village. Flour uses her magic proxy to continue speaking with him.
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From the previous post on Wind Archer, Moonlight, and Sea fairy being not originally cookies, how they got their bodies, and how that affects them (kinda)
Overtime they grew more conscious as cookies told stories about them and magic leaked into their beings.
Moonlight cookie was the first reborn due to the Wizards intervention into a cookie form (I like to compare this change as a reverse of Yue’s rebirth into a spirit). Her brother is made of dispirit comets which did not last long enough on their own to truly build a mind.
Wind Archer is still given form by Millennial Tree (possibly even before the tree himself took a cookie body).
Sea Fairy is the last to form a body. She did not care to change from her being until she learns her love has taken on a new existence as well. She prayed for aid and Sugar swan helped create a body of her own.
I like to think these cause a divide between the elementals and cookie kind due to the oddities of their existence, but more importantly this causes trouble with the elementals themselves.
Fire Spirit was not born a concept like Wind Archer and thus has a more human- er cookie point of view of his work. It causes tension and miscommunication since I don’t think Fire Spirit truly understands Wind Spirit given his own cookie nature. Neither does Wind Archer Fire Spirit. They do try however they try in their own ways to make things work.
Moonlight is happy with her new form. It might have been forceful and curated to the Wizards wants but she did want to understand cookies more. Sea Fairy is utterly frustrated with the change since she feels they lost some of their connection and themselves due to these cookie forms. (Which is why she was in that ocean form in Black Pearl Cookie’s story, it makes her feel closer to her old self)
#cookie run headcanons#moonlight x sea fairy#fire spirit x wind archer#firewind#seamoon#ships are mentioned but not focused
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With the idea the Virtues were made after Earthbread was populated with cookies. I think some talk of their timeline with the elementals and gods of the cookieworld.
Millennial Tree and Sugar Swan were some of the first creations of the witches used to populate and maybe create Earthbread. They originally don’t have cookie forms and still don’t by the rise of the virtues and their fall into the beasts
I like the headcanon that Stormbringer is like Fire Spirit and Frost Queen as in she wasn’t always an elemental. When in the timeline she turns is up for debate and the whims of canon, but I place her ascension years after the imprisonment of the beasts.
That leaves Wind Archer, Sea Fairy, and Moonlight. With these cookies, I like to say they were around but they were not themselves. Think of the spirits in Avator the Last Airbender. Original they only knew of they existed and were connected to a physical thing. Wind archer: the breeze between Millennial branches that travels the world, Sea Fairy: the waters deep and shallow that ebb and flow with the moon, and Moonlight: the moon which pushes and pull the waters and reflects the light of the sun. None thought in the same ways cookies do though they did have minds to remember things with.
#cookie run headcanons#cookie run hcs#elemental cookies#millennial tree cookie#fire spirit cookie#stormbringer cookie#sea fairy cookie#moonlight cookie#sugar swan cookie#frost queen cookie#most cookies are just mentioned in the headcanoning.
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