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first off, I’m not bashing you. I’m truly sorry if my tone came across that way, I was trying to educate you on why what you said was incorrect and harmful. I AM doing it to what you actually said, I in fact used exact, copy and pasted quotes from your post. You are trying to dodge responsibility and twist both of our words.

second off, you didn’t say that! You said, copy and pasted, “Even if they’re transphobic, that doesn’t erase them being an ally for others.“ which is not true! Because they are NOT allies for the queer community and the only people they’re allies to are other transphobes! They are not gay allies, even if they themselves are gay. You can be gay and homophobic at the same time, which being a transphobic gay person is, because they exclude a large portion of the community.

Also, you explicitly said being gay and being trans aren’t related, which is a blatantly untrue statement. They’ve always been connected. You have not touched on this.

third off, your refusal to take accountability and the twisting of your own words despite being corrected and instead threatening to block me is not only incredibly immature but shows an unwillingness to grow or change and it’s very, very sad to see. You are being transphobic, and you are refusing to acknowledge the transphobia that has been pointed out to you. I truly hope you understand why what you said was not ok, and instead of trying to justify yourself, recognize that and take accountability. It isn’t that hard to apologize.

Syscourse Block List

Harassment, targeting created systems and supporters, homophobia, endophobia

Proof: Look at their account it’s everywhere

Harassment and targeting : Almost all non-anti endo posts are about created systems. They also state that created systems are not systems and “invade the endo community”.

Homophobia : Saying gay people who are transphobes can’t be a gay ally. Even if they’re transphobic, that doesn’t erase them being an ally for others. (Obviously they’re still bad, but they don’t just stop existing. Transphobes can be bad even despite their other beliefs, but that doesn’t erase their support to other communities. Thats like saying someone who’s anti-radqueer HAS TO BE anti-queer. They aren’t related, why do they have to be exclusive?) and then saying we’re transphobic for stating the obvious.

Endophobia : Speaking for the entire community and saying endos hate created systems, and anyone who supports them must be created and therefore not valid. Despite almost all endos hating them…

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I mean… you can't really be a gay ally if you're transphobic. At least, not a good one. Because to be a gay ally, you have to be accepting of gay trans people, gay people dating trans people, t4t gay relationships, etc, which you obviously cannot do if you're transphobic.

I don't like this blog either but you ARE being transphobic, because to say that it's any kind of allyship at all to be a transphobic gay ally is blatantly WRONG. Being transphobic but queer supportive is NOT being queer supportive. Trans women were there when we threw bricks at cops and trans men were right behind them. To say that you can support queer people while not supporting trans people is wrong, you cannot support gay men without support transgender gays, and you cannot support lesbians without supporting transgender lesbians. Being gay, lesbian, bisexual, etc, and being trans ARE inherently related because we DO share a community, one that we built and founded together.

It's like saying terfs are feminists. They might claim to be, but in reality the vast majority of the things they stand for are directly anti feminist and go against the interests of feminism. In fact, a lot of terfs ARE transphobic "queer allies" who aren't really queer allies!

You can't be a queer ally without supporting transgender people. You're acting like being a queer ally is like supporting the LGB and the T is an optional add on that you can choose to support. It's not! Trans people will ALWAYS be queer and you can't support some but not all of us, you either support all of us or you support none of us.

I'm fucking sick and tired of being constantly excluded from queer spaces as a trans woman and you aren't helping by insinuating my oppressors play ANY part in upbringing my community while they use me and my trans brothers and sisters and siblings as stepping stools to kick and step down on. These "queer allies" who's transphobia "doesn’t erase them being an ally for others" are the same people who made it illegal to be a trans woman in the UK, and are the same people who assault and beat up butch lesbians in women's bathrooms. They are NOT allies for others, unless the "others" you're referring to are other transphobes and other homophobes.

Again, I support created systems. But you ARE being transphobic. I hope this was informative and that you grow and change from your mistakes.

Syscourse Block List

Harassment, targeting created systems and supporters, homophobia, endophobia

Proof: Look at their account it’s everywhere

Harassment and targeting : Almost all non-anti endo posts are about created systems. They also state that created systems are not systems and “invade the endo community”.

Homophobia : Saying gay people who are transphobes can’t be a gay ally. Even if they’re transphobic, that doesn’t erase them being an ally for others. (Obviously they’re still bad, but they don’t just stop existing. Transphobes can be bad even despite their other beliefs, but that doesn’t erase their support to other communities. Thats like saying someone who’s anti-radqueer HAS TO BE anti-queer. They aren’t related, why do they have to be exclusive?) and then saying we’re transphobic for stating the obvious.

Endophobia : Speaking for the entire community and saying endos hate created systems, and anyone who supports them must be created and therefore not valid. Despite almost all endos hating them…

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I NEED you guys to know this. Endogenic systems are not a "chronically online" thing, there is a reason anti-endos complain about struggling to find irl system spaces. And that's because most systems irl are very accepting of other forms of plurality! They might not call it endogenic, but saying "It's my spiritual belief that-" or "In my opinion my system is-" is very normal! People will accept you and respect your beliefs because respecting beliefs is basic manners!

There is a reason why most anti-endo accounts you see are minors or children in middle school or high school, and it's because they are genuinely surrounded by judgemental teenagers and internalize that shit for themselves.

In college we met so many endogenic plurals and so many soulbonders and so many otherkin and etc. It's the age where you just stop caring what other people think, and it's exciting to see what others believe about themselves and the universe

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I thought a lot about whether I wanted to make this post

I kind of figured whether I made it or not, I was going to be seen in a bad light for this choice, but I have friends, and I'm going to miss so many of you, and I think it needs to be said

These things matter, debating, educating, correcting, connecting, sharing, all of it matters

Syscourse matters

System discourse

It doesn't just cover whether endos exist, and if you think it does, you're blind to community issues (purposefully, willfully, and consciously so)

Not everyone is capable of participating in large-scale activism, but sometimes, just saying something when you see it is enough

Standing up for something you believe in is enough

And I'm so proud of so many of you

And truly disgusted and annoyed with others

Sometimes, syscourse can be used as a tool to harm, but that's true of everything

Food, the base building block of life, can be used to self-harm, I used to use hot water to self-harm

The answer isn't to not engage at all

Stop shaming and belittling people who care, people who want to combat misinformation

I think some of you think syscourse is useless because there's always someone else jumping in to correct, but what if that never happens? Does misinformation only matter when it's in front of your face, directed at you specifically? When it's in your inbox?

Just because you hide yourself from it, often while acting like you're better than everyone else, doesn't mean it stops existing or mattering, and your lack of care and downplaying of the importance only harms other systems

(I'm thinking of so many people when I say this, so many of you act so high and mighty and are so disrespectful and dismissive towards people who care, all while benefitting from the increased awareness brought by those actually syscoursing)

I don't do this for me, syscourse is incredibly stressful, but something I still enjoy

Much like my job, very stressful, but very enjoyable, because it's possible for these to coexist in healthy ways

I did this for the community I loved so dearly, for the people I cared about, for young systems exposed to harmful concepts

I did it to help waste time while I was bored at work, or while I was travelling to pass the time, I did it for the drama, the laughs and the lolz, I did it for the vine, YOLO-- sorry, I did it because it was FUN in 90% of cases, I met so many incredible people just by talking about DID, I did it for the crazy adrenaline rush in the other 10% of cases, I did it because I like learning, and you're never too old to be better than you were, I did it to support my friends, to stand up for them, I did it because I'm passionate about learning more about my brain

No one asked me to do this, I didn't need to, I'm not a white knight savior. I did it because I had the time, I enjoyed it, and I cared.

And from the asks I've received over the years, it was appreciated

If I even helped one person, it was all worth it

And I can confidently say that I did more than that

I think the bonus round solidified in my mind whether there was a need for SAS going forward

I think I'm ready to retire and let the new generation figure it out

I did my time, I played my part, I put in my hours and passed along as many papers as I could

I like to think I made this place a bit better

As my fish army grows, I've decided that that's where my focus will be now. With 5 tanks, I have a lot less time than I did, and I'm so tired with everything I have going on with the broken leg. I have to go back in for surgery because my bone didn't completely grow back.

I think it's just time.

If anyone is interested, I'm moving to @fishandmemes where I'll live out my golden years in peace with many sensible chuckles

Asks seeking help or information should be directed to @cdd-safe-haven

I want everyone to give a huge round of applause for the mods that helped make this happen and helped my personal growth

We thank them for their dedication and hard work 🙏

I really couldn't have done this without them, it was a group effort

All that said,

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Hi MOGAI community. Let's talk about racism.

I'm racist. You're racist. Everyone is racist. Don't panic. We can work through this. Take a moment to sit with that. How does that feel, to be told that you are racist? Think about it for a moment. Try to look back and remember something you have said or done that was racist, intentionally or unintentionally, knowingly or unknowingly.

Can't think of anything? You've never done anything racist and you never will do anything racist? There, that's your racist action, that you claimed that you have never and will never do anything racist. I'm not calling you evil. I'm not calling you a bad person. Don't start apologizing, don't start panicking. Take a moment and sit with that.

We are all products of deeply racist societies. No matter where you live, no matter your own race and ethnicity, no matter your own personal experiences, you have been, continue to be, and always will be shaped by constant and inescapeable racism around you. Racism has been taught to you while you were growing up, racism was reinforced to you in your classes, racism surrounds you in your workplace. Racism is at home in your home.

Recognizing this and accepting this is one of the most important steps that you can take towards anti-racism.

The word 'racist' does not describe a type of person. The word 'racist' describes an action or idea. If we begin to think of racists as some other kind of person, then we separate them from ourselves. When we separate them from ourselves, we deny our own capacity and willingness to be racist. When we deny our own capacity and willingness to be racist, we ignore it when people point out our own racism to us. We become more focused on the idea of, "I can't be racist, I've helped with all of these racial justice initiatives!", than on the idea of addressing racism in and around us. We become more focused on maintaining our own self-image as someone who isn't racist than on working towards anti-racist action.

A person who cannot consider that they may have done or may be doing something racist is not someone that people of colour are safe discussing racism around. A community where accusations of racism are considered more offensive than racism itself is a community that prioritizes the white status quo over the safety and wellbeing of people of colour.

I have done racist things. I will do racist things again. You have done racist things. You will do racist things again. Sit with this. Accept it. Only once you no longer panic at the idea of being racist can you take meaningful anti-racist action. Only once you no longer prioritize your own guilt and shame about performing racism can you begin to prioritize anti-racism.

If you want to know more about the subject, then I can highly recommend White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo. I still have yet to read through the entire book, but I have here a link to the introduction and first chapter of it. It's short, only 14 pages, but wonderfully written and it explains a lot, and while I'm not an expert on the subject of anti-racism I would consider it essential reading for anyone who wishes to dip their toes into the topic for the first time. https://mega.nz/file/uCYSHagT#fVcJ7U_9qX_gtKZiY_-YHMfUzxt0OwOGaKPXeCZrYtI

Some tags for reach. @io-archival @rwuffles @daybreakthing @rabidbatboy @whimes

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"Anything is fine as long as it's legal" is not the sex positive position you think it is. Anything can be criminalised. Anything can be decriminalised.

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the idea that restrooms, locker rooms, etc need to be single-sex spaces in order for women to be safe is patriarchy's way of signalling to men & boys that society doesn't expect them to behave themselves around women. it is directly antifeminist. it would be antifeminist even if trans people did not exist. a feminist society would demand that women should be safe in all spaces even when there are men there.

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Uhhhhhhhh that seems bad

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once any group starts losing their rights, all the government has to do is claim you're a part of that group and you'll lose your rights. Why do you think they're trying to kill all pedophiles?

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anon here is trying to say that hating the tme/tma discourse makes you someone who hates women, but then also turns around and says “you must be afab” because you hate agab language. So who’s the one who really hates women?

“lol ur afab so u don’t get to talk. Its the female- oh sorry I mean afab hysteria”

“fuck agab language!” so you’re afab

“fuck tme/tma!” so you’re tme

“Fuck women!” Is what you’re saying

Tell me you read and understand my post without telling me you read and understood my post

I don’t think you get to label me as tme or afab because I haven’t stated whether or not I’m either of these those things. Yes I’m a trans man but I hesitate to define myself to sex-specific terms of “afab” and “tme”

I’m not saying “fuck women!”, I’m saying please reconsider placing people in neat little boxes in order to define oppression

I can assure you, oppression cannot be so easily defined

Serrano herself has said that she finds fault with the labels TME and TMA because they do not describe all of trans oppression and it’s difficult to gauge who is or isn’t TME or TMA, especially when there are intersex people who look different from the TME and TMA definitions

I am saying, please listen to everybody because everyone has a different experience with gender and sex and those things aren’t inherently binary so therefore, labels like AGAB and TME/TMA reinforce that binary view of “you look like this, so you must be that” or “you have this, you have that” when in reality, it’s just not that simple to people

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People are being annoying about this so I changed the language a bit to reflect how fucking stupid you sound. (Last sentence changed a bit to be accurate to historical context)

Excuse my shitty handwriting but also can we realize segregation was not, is not, and never will be a good solution. especially segregation based on non-controllable aspects of yourself such as skin color, biological sex, sexuality, gender identity, or ethnicity. I thought we all learned this a while ago guys can we please think critically for a moment

Telling TERFs I don't believe "female spaces" should exist will never get old. (I don't think we should segregate people by physical features or internal identity period.)

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from the same subreddit that says they mock anyone who claims to be a system, regardless if they're actually faking or not. but yeah, why tf would you go there if you're plural? they dont care about you. they aren't gonna treat you nicely just because you're diagnosed, or hate endos, or went through trauma. because they'll say any and all symptoms you have are things "fakers" do, and use that to insult and mock you relentlessly. in their eyes, we're all the same. we're all fakers. regardless if we're diagnosed or not. it was never about protecting disabled people. it was about spreading misinformation about how plurality works, and silencing anyone who tries to tell the truth by calling them fakers.

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obviously age isnt an excuse for shitty behaviour but like. kids and teens are 100% allowed to go "hey what the fuck, i'm 14/15/etc" if adults are witch hunting them over stupid discourse (esp syscourse and shipcourse ngl). because sometimes people need to be reminded that they're bitchless losers for witch hunting KIDS over online drama

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syscourse questions sound fun, ask away