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Har du en favoritt dialekt, eller en dialekt du absolutt avskyr?

Jeg liker virkelig Bergensdialekten selv om jeg har hørt at mange nordmenn blir irritert av den 😅 Men så lenge man ikke snakker så høyt at hele bybanen kan høre det, så høres det veldig pent ut synes jeg.

Men egentlig liker jeg de aller fleste dialektene og synes de er fascinerende.

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learning another language is always beautiful, no matter how long it takes. like, what do you mean you are crying because you had to read a sentence twice to get it, when at the beginning you had to do it five times? kicking yourself because you had to listen to an audio at .75x to understand it fully, when two months ago you could barely understand one or two words, even at your second try? getting mad because you had to research how to spell a word, when a few days back you didn't even know how to pronounce it? hell, that's amazing. keep going. you'll get there.

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Update: I’ve been asking Norwegians this question and here are some of the answers I’ve received!

Så hyggelig, takk!

Jo, takk skal du ha!

Takk, nå ble jeg glad!

Takk, så snilt av deg å si!

Takk, det var hyggelig å høre!

Kjekt at du sier det!

anyone got ideas on how to respond to a compliment in norwegian besides «takk» or «tusen takk»?

hilsen, an awkward person who doesn’t know how to take a compliment in any language

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Found a Bergen-focused Norwegian textbook for free and thought I’d share this page about typical words in the Bergen dialect! Seems pretty accurate, however I don’t believe I’ve ever heard anyone say “buddaren”. (I also haven’t been paying attention for it though so not saying it doesn’t exist, I just never noticed it before.) I also feel like people will say “kordan går det” more often than “kedegåri” but that could just be people adjusting for me knowing that Norwegian isn’t my first language.

The textbook is an A1-A2 textbook called “Byen er Bergen” for anyone interested. :)

For me personally I feel like the Bergen dialect is coming more naturally to me after being surrounded by it all the time! However I am absolutely terrified to do the skarre-R in public because it’s hard and I can’t even pronounce it in my own name.

Still figuring out the tonefall/pitch accent in Bergen as well. It’s almost harder because it’s “flatter” (to my ears). Meanwhile I impressed my Norwegian friends by making an attempt at a Stavanger dialect because the tonefall is so distinctive and easy to mimic (every sentence almost sounds like a question).

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Hello! I hope you’re doing well! I was wondering if you could give me some advice when it comes to furthering my language learning. I’ve been learning Norwegian on Duolingo for almost 5 years now but I feel like I’ve barely made any progress into actually learning the language. I’ve seen you mention that Duolingo isn’t the best way to learn a language, just on its own. What more can I be doing to actually learn Norwegian? I appreciate any insight you might be able to give. Thank you!

Hi there!

I actually think Norwegian Duo's not that bad, especially compared to other courses. It got me to A2 level without my really using any other resources! But of course, A2 is still only the top of beginner level, and from thereon out it's pretty ineffective on its own (although I still used it even at B2 level as a way to refresh vocab I'd forgotten or just do a little practice every day when I didn't have the time or energy to do anything else).

There are a lot of different ways you can study Norwegian. Here are some things I did (it's an essay lmao I'm so sorry):

1) Listen to Norwegian radio. You'll probably think I'm mad when you first try it because you'll probably understand very little other than the odd word here and there, but I promise it gets easier and you'll get used to the rhythm of the language in a way Duolingo doesn't prepare you for. Try to shadow the speakers (repeat what they say just after they say it. You don't have to know the words they're actually saying; just approximate the phonemes and the melody and the stress patterns. I promise you your pronunciation is gonna get SO good)

2) Take to Youtube. Check my resources list here for some links to channels that teach Norwegian.

3) Norwegian podcasts! I made a list of some beginner/intermediate-friendly ones (check the link in point 2). The plus with podcasts is you can slow the speed down to half-speed too. Again, don't be discouraged if it's difficult at first; just focus on the rhythm and stress of the language

4) Norwegian TV. You're gonna struggle at first but you need to struggle to improve, so don't be discouraged even if several months pass without you feeling like there's any improvement. Intermediate level sucks I'm afraid. Some shows I like that don't require a VPN (as of the time I'm posting this) are Fra bølle til bestevenn (it's got dogs in it), Hva feiler det deg (game show where normal people with internet compete against doctors to guess a patient's diagnosis), 113 (documentary following paramedics in Trondheim - try not to cry at the dialects), Klassequizen (quiz show with 10th graders, pretty A2/B1-friendly), Side Om Side (popular sitcom, sometimes the second-hand embarrassment kills me but mostly it's pretty funny) and Superkrim (did you know that crime stories around Easter time are a Thing in Norway? They make a new season of this one every year but it's accessible year-round, and the language is a lot simpler than a lot of shows, and it's pretty fun and a bit silly)

Note: subtitles are in Norwegian only, and half the time they match the nuance but not the actual words being said. I recommend trying to listen without them first, then listen with them, then listen without them again and see if you can catch a few more words.

5) Textbooks, if that's your jam. I recommend The Mystery Of Nils (you can jump straight to book 2: Mysteriet om Nils if you think you're ready. It's a bit of a jump but no point wasting money/time on something that you won't enjoy) and Norwegian Tutor (from the Teach Yourself series. The first few chapters will seem pretty basic but it's great at explaining nuances and prepositions in later chapters).

6) Read things in Norwegian. You can get short stories for beginner/intermediate level online, as well as read news articles (even if you can't read the whole article, just try the first paragraph). When I was about A2 level I would print things out and go through them just translating them, highlighting new words, words I'd encountered before but couldn't remember, words I could work out from context, particular grammar patterns and words I couldn't figure out and needed the help of a native speaker to work out.

7) Follow Norwegian accounts on social media. Here's a list I made earlier.

8) If you have some extra cash, investing in an italki tutor can be helpful. I've had lessons with a number of tutors so feel free to send me a message if you want help deciding which one to go with.

9) Keep a journal in Norwegian. Look up words you don't know and write them in a different colour. Maybe try to use words you learned that day and write them in a different colour too (even if by using them you're literally just writing "jeg lærte ordet «______» i dag. Det betyr ______")

10) You can also try creative writing. I started out by writing fiction largely in English but with Norwegian dialogue. I then moved on to writing short articles and then essays, then short stories and fan fiction.

11) You can try apps like HiNative and HelloTalk to find native speakers for language exchange. If you only know English though it might be difficult to find people because Norwegians typically speak really good English and aren't looking to learn/practice.

12) Listen to Norwegian music. Get on spotify and search "norsk (music genre of your choice)" and find some songs you like. Listen to them and pay attention to the lyrics. Then find the lyrics online and listen with the lyrics. Then try to translate the lyrics on your own. Finally, look up someone else's translation and see how close they are. Then try to learn the song and visualise meaning it with your whole heart as you sing along.

13) Practise speaking to yourself. It feels super awkward when you first start, but I always manage to get into the flow pretty quickly. You can have GT in front of you so you can look up things if you need to, or you can just write down words you don't know/couldn't think of as you go along, then look them up once you're done (I prefer this method; having GT in front of you encourages your brain to be lazy and not try to actively recall the information you need). Not sure what to write? Try my Speaking In 20 Challenge prompts.

14) Flashcards. I put this one last because really flashcards are only useful as a supplement to learning through other methods. They help to keep vocab fresh in your mind until you see it in context again (and it's the seeing words in context that's gonna cement the meaning in your brain. I've never heard anyone say "oh, I know that word because it was in my flashcard deck that I reviewed every night before bed", but I hear people say things like "oh, I know that obscure word because I watched cooking shows in my TL and the host said it aaaall the time" or "it's in a line from one of my favourite songs" a LOT).

Okay, that's it, essay over 😅 Hope I gave you some ideas! Best of luck with your Norwegian-learning journey!

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anyone got ideas on how to respond to a compliment in norwegian besides «takk» or «tusen takk»?

hilsen, an awkward person who doesn’t know how to take a compliment in any language

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Ett år i Norge: Del 1/?

📓 Språk

Nå har jeg bodd i Norge i ett år og hadde lyst til å dele noen opplevelser og ting jeg har lært om Norge og meg selv. Naturligvis skal jeg starte med språk!

Jeg hadde bestått Norskprøven på B2 nivå flere måneder før jeg flyttet til Norge. Likevel var språk en stor utfordring. De første månedene her, kom jeg ofte hjem fra skolen og grått fordi jeg skjønte bare kanskje 50% av det foreleseren snakket om. Det var delvis et problem med dialekter: det finnes mange, mange dialekter her på vestlandet, og jeg hadde null erfaring med dem bortsett fra at jeg viste at folk sier eg og ikkje istedenfor jeg og ikke. Men det er også noen som sier blant annet me istedenfor vi, kjem istedenfor kommer, og seie istedenfor si. Nå går det mye bedre med dialekter, men det er fortsatt folk jeg møter som jeg sliter med å forstå. Jeg har fant at det å studere litt nynorsk har hjulpet meg med å forstå dialekter, fordi det er mange ord fra dialekter som kan være representert i nynorsk.

Nå opplever jeg utfordringer oftest når folk snakker usedvanlig fort, eller når flere i en gruppe snakker i munnen på hverandre. Også når det er bakgrunnsstøy.

Én ting som overrasker meg er at folk jeg snakker med er ofte imponert av min norsk! Til tross for at jeg gjør feil fortsatt og sliter med å finne de riktige ordene på en daglig basis. Hvis jeg hadde en krone for hver gang noen fortalte meg at tonefallet mitt høres nordnorsk ut, ville jeg hatt to kroner. Det er ikke så mange, men det er rart at det skjedde to ganger!

Jeg føler meg ikke flytende, men jeg pleier å kunne formidle alt jeg har lyst til å si, selv om jeg kunne kanskje sagt det på en bedre måte. For tiden må jeg dessverre si at jeg har det fortsatt mer gøy på engelsk, bokstavelig talt: jeg er ikke flink til å tulle på norsk! Jeg håper at det blir lettere i framtiden!

☀️☀️☀️☀️☀️

Har du noen rettelser eller spørsmål om norsk eller Norge, er det bare å spørre!

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Masterpost of Norwegian Masterposts

Because I’ve reblogged so many resources and masterposts that it got overwhelming, so I had to compile them all into one giant masterpost. This is basically my entire Norwegian tag. 

Masterposts (contains mixed resources)

The Ultimate Norwegian Resources List by languagesandme (contains courses, culture & life, tv shows, music, news, comics & other reading materials)

Norwegian Resources by languageoclock (contains websites, dictionaries, blogs, news, youtube channels, and music)

Norwegian masterpost by jeg-savner-norge (contains courses, exercises, dictionaries, placement tests, books, games & quizzes, audio, movies, news, etc.)

Masterpost of Hoarded Language Resources by le-juletre (contains courses, listening, pronunciation, grammar, dialect comparisons, music, text, tv, radio and nynorsk)

Jeg lærer norsk! by treasuredthings (contains courses, exercises, dictionaries, grammar, vocab, books, games & quizzes, audio, videos, etc.)

Scandinavian Language Masterpost by useless-scandinaviafacts (contains websites, TV shows, news, movies, and music from Denmark, Sweden and Norway, and includes a comparison video)

North Germanic Language Resources by travellingual (contains various resources on Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, Icelandic and Faroese)

Learn Nordic Languages Websites/Sources by factsnfun (contains various resources on Norwegian, Swedish, Danish, Finnish, and Icelandic)

Norsk materials (Kompetanse Norge) by giuliaslangblr

Norwegian resources from this blog by henvin

Vocab Lists & Sentence Lists

Norwegian False Friends by language-princess Norwegian Adverbs by language-princess 85 Norwegian Irregular Verbs by language-princess 150 Advanced Norwegian Verbs by language-princess Norwegian pick-up lines by language-princess Useful phrases and words XIII by jeg-savner-norge Congratulations and good wishes by jeg-savner-norge Groceries by jeg-savner-norge Weather in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Directions by whatlanguageisthis 10 Norwegian Idioms Part 1 by whatlanguageisthis 10 Norwegian Idioms Part 2 by whatlanguageisthis 10 Norwegian Idioms Part 3 by whatlanguageisthis Gymnastics vocabulary in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Sami vocabulary in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Christmas in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Love and romance in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Body language in Norwegian by whatlanguageisthis Weather terms by snakknorsk Face vocabulary by snakknorsk Things in a Kitchen by coffeewithabook Professions and Occupations by coffeewithabook Entertainment and Hobbies by coffeewithabook Norwegian Autumn Vocabulary by spraakhexe Norwegian Autumn Vocabulary by vokabular Psychology Vocabulary (w/ German) by vokabular Verdensrommet by vokabular Greetings by imlearninglanguages Norwegian chat acronyms by languageoclock Norwegian Frozen Vocabulary by norwegian-wool Norwegian Christmas Vocab by bilingualmalfoy Frukt by polarynat Følelser på norsk by jeglaerenorsk Compliments in Norwegian that isn’t about… by jeglaerenorsk Secret by jeglaerenorsk Sminke by jeglarenorsk Slang by jeglaerenorsk Krydder by letslearnnorwegian Common swears by letslearnnorwegian Litteratur by letslearnnorwegian Kjæleord - Endearments by letslearnnorwegian Blomster by letslearnnorwegian Skole by letslearnnorwegian Musikk by letslearnnorwegian Anatomi by letslearnnorwegian 10 Norwegian Words That Are…Kinda Odd by letslearnnorwegian Around the house in Norwegian by offisiellenorskblogg Cat vocabulary in Norwegian by offiesiellenorskblogg Seafood vocabulary by offisiellenorskblogg Norwegian abbreviations by offisiellenorskblogg People who Make Movies by offisiellenorskblogg Norwegian health vocabulary by studyinorsk Passive voice verbs by rogntre Feelings vocab by rogntre The signs in Norwegian by entliczekpentilczek 10 Untranstalable Norwegian Terms by theprivatelifeofsherlockholmes Reasons for Learning Norwegian by norwegianclass101com Norwegian culture funfacts for SKAM lovers by darktwistedlady Norwegian LGBTQ+ Vocabulary by positivityforbaddays Birthday Vocabulary in Norwegian by polyglotpearl Cute Norwegian Food Vocab by language-hoe Some Norwegian Summer Vocabulary by language-hoe Some Norwegian Rainy Day Vocabulary! by language-hoe Valentinsdagen by ravenlangblr Canada by useless-scandinaviafacts Art vocabulary by deseamber Sea vocabulary by deseamber Penpal Vocab by languagecollector Real Estate Vocabulary by languagecollector 100 Most Common Verbs Norwegian by studyingboookworm Autumn vocabulary by studyingboookworm 100+ Norwegian Verbs in all Tenses by studyingboookworm how to swear in norwegian like a pro by skamda SKAM Words Translation by mannentilminkardemomme Harry Potter Vocabulary by norwegianandchill Some useful words when writing a Norwegian essay by henvin Norwegian Vocab: På Kontoret by ihoeforlangs Classical Music and Instruments in Norwegian by momos-languagejourney Bunch of upper-intermediate/advanced Norwegian vocabulary by languagesfreak Psykolog: – Gå glipp av mer! by norwegianlearner Norsk Vocab - Hardware by vocablrs Norsk Vocab - Radio by vocablrs Norsk Vocab - Garden by vocablrs

Grammar Lessons

å ville by letslearnnorwegian Ordering food by letslearnnorwegian Possessives and “ikke” by letslearnnorwegian Possessives (pronouns) by letslearnnorwegian “skal” “skulle” “brude” “brø” “må” “får” by letslearnnorwegian Basic sentence structures by letslearnnorwegian jeg synes, jeg tror, jeg tenker by letslearnnorwegian hvis and om by letslearnnorwegian Subordinate clauses by letslearnnorwegian Liksom by letslearnnorwegian ‘når’ and 'da’ by letslearnnorwegian “masse “mye” “mange” by letslearnnorwegian “Tykk/tjukk L” by letslearnnorwegian Plural form of neuter nouns by letslearnnorwegian #SKAMSPEAK 1: Ass by stormboxx #SKAMSPEAK 2: Halla! (and other greetings) by stormboxx Difference between “lite” and “små” by almostbilingual Norwegian word order by whatlanguageisthis Why a verb ends in “s” by whatlanguageisthis utenfor, innenfor, bortenfor, nedenfor by whatlanguageisthis Lang og lenge by toramor When to Use: ANNERLEDES & FORSKJELLIG by languages-arent-real Dirty Norwegian: swears, insults and other bad words explained by marilingo annet/anna/annen/andre, gjerne, enig by henvin Gerunds by henvin “meg” or “meg selv” by henvin Polar-themed word list in Norwegian by henvin på byen - til byen; know the difference by ask-the-norwegian Inneklemt dag by language-dragon

Music, Podcasts, and Audio

Norwegian music masterpost by language-flower Norwegian music by language-princess Norwegian Christmas songs (w/ Swedish) by fiveyen Norwegian Podcasts by infusicals Ordentlig radio by offisiellenorskblogg Norsk Musikk! by kainorsk

TV shows, Movies and Videos

Norwegian TV Shows by language-flower

E-books and Reading Resources

Norwegian ebooks and stories by jeg-savner-norge Norwegian books by lovelybluepanda I et annet lys by offisiellenorskblogg Norwegian PDFs! by offisellenorskblogg Children’s books in Norwegian by norwegianlangblr 800k free documents in Norwegian by turbini Norwegian textbooks according to CEFR levels by language-princess

Games, Quizzes, Texts

Norskprøve tests by language-princess Norwegian online exercises by imlearninglanguages

Language Comparisons

Scandinavian Vocabulary -> Science by useless-scandinaviafacts Scandinavian Grammar -> Personal Pronouns by useless-scandinaviafacts The Nordic Languages from Minna Sundberg’s Stand Still Stay Silent comic Numerals in North Germanic Languages by ravenlangblr Norwegian Dialect Comparisons by languageoclock Differences between dialects by letslearnnorwegian Is this text in Danish or is it Norwegian? by languagecollector Nynorsk VS Bokmål by languagebee Differences in written Swedish and Norwegian (Bokmål) by spraakhexe how I speak Norwegian by henvin

Bonus

A poem about a lazy person’s week Memes translated to Norwegian by useless-norwayfacts Harry Potter character names in Norwegian by hairypotheads The Best of Best of Norge by language-princess Jodel by mrsweasley Hallo, Fru Katt by zakeno Translated Norwegian sayings by stayinherewithyou Reading out loud in bokmål when you have a different dialect by fremmedsprak/alv529 ***updated 11-08-18***

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Kasse eller eske? 📦

Påminnelse om at Språkrådets svardatabasen inneholder mye lærerikt for oss som lærer norsk :) Her handler spørsmålet om forskjellen mellom kasse og eske — som begge oversettes til box på engelsk, men har litt annerledes bruk. Ordet kasse brukes oftest om de som er større og mer solide enn esker, men betydningen av begge to er egentlig det samme.

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10/10 fremragende bruk av språk

jeg mener vi trenger et godt norsk ord for ragebait men sinneagn høres ikke noe bra ut så jeg foreslår raserifiskeri

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whoah this is so cool! off to try and find something similar for Norwegian 👀

Japanese Writing Practice Prompt Generator for Intermediate Learners

Hello, intermediate learners of Japanese. Need some practice producing written Japanese, but having trouble thinking of something to write? Well, look no further. Here's a prompt generator featuring 193 different grammar points and a fairly solid library of topics, nouns, verbs, adjectives and adverbs for you to scribble a little something on.

Remember to get your writing checked by someone - a native speaker, if you can! If you don't know a person you can ask, HiNative or iTalki are worth trying.

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Addition:

I’ve been back on Mango Languages for other languages, and I’m impressed with what they’ve added (since I last used it many years ago) so I want to mention it here since many people have free access to Mango through their public libraries 😎 Specifically they have added pre-made flashcards with audio and review features which help you solidify and remember what you learn in the lessons.

[Pro tip for US residents, if your library doesn’t offer Mango, you can check out websites of other libraries in your state that do offer it, oftentimes they will let you have a library card even if you live in another city/county.]

Free Norwegian Language Resources

I see many learners looking for Duolingo alternatives and realized I haven’t shared any new resources in a bit! So here are my personal favorite Norwegian learning resources that are completely free!

NTNU’s NoW (Norwegian on the Web) — Online independent learning course developed by a Norwegian university that progresses from beginner to intermediate level. Includes reading, audio, practice exercises, and grammar! [A1-B1 level]

Norskappen (App store link) — Fantastic vocab practice with real human spoken audio! There is also preposition practice, article gender practice, and verb practice. The app’s creator actively listens to and incorporates user feedback (link to Reddit post by creator asking for feedback). [A1-B1 level]

Norsklærer Karense on Youtube — Grammar and vocabulary videos produced by a Norwegian language teacher. Lots of in-depth explanations of grammar with examples, differences between similar words, and advice and information about taking the Norskprøven (Norway’s official language test). [A1-B2+ level]

If you are aiming to take the Norskprøven at B2 level, your best resources are often going to be the ones not designated as a “course” — reading articles on NRK or Store norske leksikon, watching Norwegian news/debate shows and podcasts (since B2 level involves being able to reason and defend an opinion) like Debatten or Dagsnytt 18, and lastly, producing your own language in written or spoken format. For that last one it helps to find a tutor who can practice with you and correct your writing, but besides that you can really come a long way for free!

Lykke til! 💫

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Free Norwegian Language Resources

I see many learners looking for Duolingo alternatives and realized I haven’t shared any new resources in a bit! So here are my personal favorite Norwegian learning resources that are completely free!

NTNU’s NoW (Norwegian on the Web) — Online independent learning course developed by a Norwegian university that progresses from beginner to intermediate level. Includes reading, audio, practice exercises, and grammar! [A1-B1 level]

Norskappen (App store link) — Fantastic vocab practice with real human spoken audio! There is also preposition practice, article gender practice, and verb practice. The app’s creator actively listens to and incorporates user feedback (link to Reddit post by creator asking for feedback). [A1-B1 level]

Norsklærer Karense on Youtube — Grammar and vocabulary videos produced by a Norwegian language teacher. Lots of in-depth explanations of grammar with examples, differences between similar words, and advice and information about taking the Norskprøven (Norway’s official language test). [A1-B2+ level]

If you are aiming to take the Norskprøven at B2 level, your best resources are often going to be the ones not designated as a “course” — reading articles on NRK or Store norske leksikon, watching Norwegian news/debate shows and podcasts (since B2 level involves being able to reason and defend an opinion) like Debatten or Dagsnytt 18, and lastly, producing your own language in written or spoken format. For that last one it helps to find a tutor who can practice with you and correct your writing, but besides that you can really come a long way for free!

Lykke til! 💫

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norwegians, my partner and I have started using the phrase “chilling like kylling” 🐓 please either enjoy or forgive us

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found this in my book today and would like to download it into my brain and share for any of my fellow norwegian learners who, like me, may forget that other words exist and just say “ja” or “nei” as answers 🧐

specifically this is for like career language so the context here is answering when someone asks you for help / asks you to do something

(I’m told it can seem a bit nicer/more polite when you throw some more words in there rather than short answers, makes sense)

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my peers will just say “oh my days” in english and i want to know where they learned that and why is it so fucking funny

this moment is dedicated to every native English speaker in Norway who doesn't know Norwegian and has to make it through every single day catching the absolutely batshit weird sentences we blurt out mid-conversation because English is our Silly Language that we pull out For the Bit. you guys are really just on the bus overhearing stuff like

"du vet sånne gutter som ikke har tatt på gress på årevis men så kjøper de seg en studiomikk også er de sånn 'actually, all women are delusional and don't deserve rights' i førtifem minutter i strekk også legger de det ut på nett også plutselig er meningene dems vårt problem? liksom?"

With zero context. Hope you're all staying sane out there.