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Does the character need to be canon queer or canon disabled? Not "and", I mean: "or".

I know that one of those requirements can be headcanon, but does at least one need to be canon, or could someone submit a character that isn't canon queer or canon disabled just on the power of headcanoning them as both?

Not judging anyone who would do that. I'm just asking for clarification.

Nah, both disability and LGBTQ+ can be headcanon, it just doesn’t happen much. Last round I think we had like 3-5ish that were noncanon either (around 3% if I did the math right), but to be quite honest even those were really ambiguous. (One has since become canon LGBTQ+ lol). So yes, they can be submitted on the power of headcanon alone, it just really doesn’t happen much due to ambiguity. You can see more about it here.

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We made ourselves a meme!

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hi i was the one who submitted sasha nicolai from dark carnival. what information was the submission missing?

None actually! Mod A didn’t check well enough, so couldn’t find proof of what you were saying, but we checked again and she counts, so will be in the showdown.

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Hi hi! I entered Lillium White from Countdown to Countdown and in my submission I confessed that I was not far enough into the story to know for certain whether or not he was canonicaly queer, I have returned to inform you that he does appear to be canonicaly queer. I would explain the cannon queerness but I will sound insane. Just know it involves an alternate universe(part of main story) forehead kiss.

Lolll. No worries, he will be in the tournament. Can we link this ask in his polls when they happen?

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Just curious, why aren’t helluva boss and hazbin hotel characters allowed?

So this is something we established last round, and the reasons why can be found here, here, and here (last one isn’t super relevant but it’s on the topic). We will very likely not be changing our minds on this matter.

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Idk if anyone has replied re: Willow from Reverse: 1999 but if they haven't; she is canonically disabled (missing a leg) but is not as far as I'm aware canonically queer beyond like, vibes I guess

Thanks for the information! She will be included in the showdown.

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i'm gonna be honest i don't even remember who all i submitted ^^; i know at least one of them was without my account attached because of the series involved glad this is still going on though, can't wait to see who all gets in!

Lol, I think you submitted a character from Pokemon and a character from Ninjago: Dragons Rising. Also we will still finish round two no matter what goes on, it may just take a while.

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More information for Markus from Hunter: The Parenting. I'm the same person that submitted him, so I'm only adding more info on his disability.

While it has never been explicitly stated, there are moments in the series that show Marckus having ADHD.

Exhibit A

Exhibit B

Exhibit C

There's also been information added by the production team on their blog.

Like Marckus having bad sleeping habits and this which idk how to call it. Planifiation method?. The last one is an ask in which anon assumes that Marckus has ADHD and the head of production doesn't contradict them.

Hope this helps I would really like him to be able to participate.

Thanks for the additional information. He is now in the showdown. Would it be alright for us to link this post to his polls when they happen?

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Hello! Totally ok if these two aren't included but did want to submit some more info :)

Scorpia: her claws make it difficult for her to do day-to-day tasks in a world where Everything is designed for people with two hands. She has adapted in order to use her claws safely (e.g. only hugging with her arms, only being able to wear outfits designed to go over her claws)

Lottie Matthews: she is canonically diagnosed as schizophrenic, she may also have some prophetic abilities?? but so far it's been left up to interpretation as to whether that is true or whether that is a symptom of her schizophrenia. Either way she has PTSD.

Thanks!

Thanks for the additional information for Scorpia and Lottie Matthews, both are now in the showdown. Is it ok for us to link this ask in Scorpia’s polls when we post them?

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Has Snowflake from Wings of Fire been submitted or accepted to the tournament?

Snowflake has been submitted, and accepted to the tournament.

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Hello! Jude St Francis was my submission and I saw he was rejected for dubious content matter. Do you consider him a problematic representation of queerness, or just not like the book itself/think takes its traumatic scenes too far? I know it is very controversial media but it means a lot to me and other people—am I able to convince u to let him be included?

Unfortunately, we’re still not gonna run him unless we get more people saying that he should be run.

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Would a disabled gem from the show Steven Universe count as they are all agender with she/her pronouns? That is the norm there so I cannot tell. Thank you for your time, and thank you for running such a fun tournament (:-)

(Please ignore the fact that I am answering this over a month late, sorry). I think it would probably depend on the character, if you are thinking of Lapis Lazuli, she was in the last round, and could be submitted for this round. TBH as long as you provide a decent argument for whatever character we’ll probably take them.

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Hey Y’all

Sorry for kind of disappearing into the void, life has been kinda chaotic. Submissions are still open, and we’re unsure when we will close them. Last time we had 194 characters and around 300 submissions. Currently we have around 150 submissions and at least 70 characters. We’re aiming for around the same bracket size, but we’ll see how things pan out.

LGBTQ+ Disabled Characters Showdown: Electric Boogaloo (2) Submissions

Who can be entered:

Anyone can be entered that is LGBTQ+ and disabled. This includes physically disabled characters, neurodivergent characters, and characters with mental health things like anxiety and depression for example. However, this is not limited to solely just canon confirmed characters. In order to be considered for this showdown, if they are not canon you must provide a good argument for their inclusion. More about our canon policy here.

Who cannot be entered:

Real people

Harry Potter

Helluva Boss / Hazbin Hotel

OCs

Yang Xiao Long from RWBY

Neil Josten and Andrew Minyard from All For The Game

There’s a few more things that might be excluded, but it’s an if it’s submitted we’ll point it out kinda deal. Most/all characters from last season are free game except the ones listed because they won first and second. Any character that was rejected last season could be submitted and potentially run, and anything from last season could potentially not be run.

Multiple characters from the same media can be submitted and be in the showdown.

What should be in the submission:

Who the character is

What they are from

Why they qualify

Propaganda

Submissions:

Characters can be submitted in the google form linked. If you are not comfortable using a google form you can also shoot us an ask. You can submit as many characters as you like, but please don’t spam the same character. If you’re not sure a character counts feel free to shoot us an ask. Submissions are open until at least around the end of March. Don’t assume your character has been submitted, they probably haven’t even if they are from a popular media. Bracket size is as large as we can get it.

Disclaimers will be under the cut

Disclaimers:

1.) Please tell us if we are using the wrong terminology or are doing something offensive, we are trying our best but are only human.

2.) This showdown will be as big as we can logically get it, however we reserve the right to not include characters at our discretion.

3.) We will block without warning, please be civil when interacting with the content.

4.) If you have an issue with one of the characters feel free to send us an ask or message and we’ll figure out what do do from there. That being said this isn’t really about who is the best representation.

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Just wanted to get clarification again on what the stance is for things like mental illnesses? (I know y'all mentioned something for the first go, but I don't remember all of the details and am not sure if the criteria has shifted). The characters I'm thinking of submitting in particular have ptsd, for more context

Yeah characters with mental illnesses can be submitted.

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Characters in Showdown: Electric Boogaloo (2) Currently

Notes:

1.) This list is subject to change; characters will be added, some could get removed (very unlikely). Not all characters that have been submitted have even been reviewed yet. Characters are under the cut.

2.) The groupings are to make it a bit easier to find characters, they are broken up like this bc that’s how I did it last time.

3.) The form is still open, if you want to submit more propaganda for a character on here go ahead.

4.) Rejected characters are in a separate post here, along with characters that we are on the fence about. If you submitted someone and they aren’t here or on the rejected characters list feel free to ask about them, but just know it’s probably only because we haven’t gotten around to checking them yet.

5.) If there is a character you think doesn’t qualify you can ask us and we can tell you why they have been added. Just because a character can be deemed problematic isn’t grounds for removal.

Video Games:

Neve Gallus from Dragon Age: The Veilguard (2)

Siffrin from In Stars And Time (5)

Snake from Zero Escape (3)

Olivia Haas from Fear and Hunger: Termina

Miles Edgeworth from Ace Attorney

Kim Kitsuragi from Disco Elysium (2)

Tavish ‘Demoman’ Finnegan DeGroot from Team Fortress 2

Wyll Ravengard from Baldur’s Gate 3

Willow from Reverse: 1999

Hong from Adventures with Anxiety

Chamel from Love, Ghostie

Harrier ‘Harry’ Du Bois from Disco Elysium

Kurogane from Tsubasa: Reservoir Chronicle

Other Language Media:

Tan Yin from Blue Canvas of Youthful Days

Jiang Shao Peng from See Your Love (4)

Rose Lavillant from Miraculous Ladybug (2)

Heart from Moonlight Chicken

May from Pluto

Harry from Sleep With Me

Luna from Sleep With Me

Anime / Manga:

Johnny Joestar from JoJo’s Bizarre Adventure: Steel Ball Run (2)

Hange Zoë from Attack on Titan

Monkey D. Luffy from One Piece (2)

Roronoa Zoro from One Piece

Kikunojo ‘Kiku’ from One Piece (3)

Laois Touden from Dungeon Meshi / Delicious in Dungeon

Qifrey from Witch Hat Atelier

Animated / TV Show:

Takashi ‘Shiro’ Shirogane from Voltron: Legendary Defender

Ghoulia Yelps from Monster High

Frankie Stein from Monster High (g3)

Krester from 1899

Frank from The Last of Us

Sameen Shaw from Person of Interest (2)

Amaya from The Dragon Prince (2)

Korra from Avatar: The Legend of Korra (2)

Lottie Matthews from Yellowjackets

Ben Scott from Yellowjackets

Cassandra from Rapunzel’s Tangled Adventure

Scorpia from She Ra and the Princesses of Power (2)

Ballister Boldheart from Nimona (Film)

Eda Clawthorne from The Owl House (2)

Victor from Arcane (2)

Leonardo from Rise Of The Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

Norma Khan from Dead End: Paranormal Park (2)

Luz Noceda from The Owl House

Sam Eliot from The Society (2)

Gobber from How To Train Your Dragon

Star (Wars, Trek, ect.) / Superheroes:

Bruce Wayne from Batman / DC

Irene Adler / Destiny from Marvel (X-Men)

Matt Murdock from Marvel

Felix Gaeta from Battlestar Galactica

Darth Maul from Star Wars

Luke Skywalker from Star Wars

Timothy ‘Tim’ Drake from Batman / DC

Books:

Harrowhark Nonagesimus from The Locked Tomb (2)

Murderbot from The Murderbot Diaries (2)

Piper McLean from Heroes of Olympus

Will Solace from Percy Jackson and the Olympians

Jean Moreau from All For The Game

Frodo Baggins from The Lord of the Rings

Charlie Spring from Heartstopper

Adam Parrish from The Raven Cycle

Wu Zetian from Iron Widow

Dezi from The Sunbearer Trials

Tamarin from Wings of Fire

Anemone from Wings of Fire

Tyrannus ‘Baz’ Basilton Grimm-Pitch from Carry On / Fangirl

Snowflake from Wings of Fire

Other Stuff:

Marckus from Hunter: The Parenting

Juno Steel from The Penumbra Podcast

Buddy Aurinko from The Penumbra Podcast

Vespa Ilkay from The Penumbra Podcast

Valerie Day from Paranatural

Lillium White from Countdown to Countdown

Ayda Aguefort from Dimension 20: Fantasy High

Melanie King from The Magnus Archives (2)

Princess Sapphia from High Class Homos

Terezi Pyrope from Homestuck

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Characters that have been Rejected from Showdown: Electric Boogaloo (2)

Notes:

1.) This also includes some characters we are on the fence about, that would require more information for us to include them.

2.) If you would like to appeal a rejection you can send us an ask, but don’t be rude about it or we’ll be less likely to consider your point.

3.) Characters that have been accepted here.

Characters that need more information:

Akihiko Shiraishi from Our Walk Home

Ariake Shoutaro from ooe

Sasha Nicolai from Dark Carnival

Freyja Maria Mendoza (fainéant girl) from The Post Traumatic Manifesto: “I don’t really know what’s going on here” -Mod A

Characters that need better arguments:

James T. Kirk from Star Trek: we need a bit stronger information / more receipts for us to consider the disability aspect.

Characters that have been rejected:

Maria Calavera from RWBY: “isn’t queer, the submission had nothing about her supposed queerness, and the wiki was so sparse as to not provide conclusive support either way” -Mod A

Vaughan and Gabrielle from Crash by JG Ballard: Content matter is dubious to the point of not wanting to run these characters.

Jude St. Francis from A Little Life: Content matter is dubious to the point of not wanting to run this character.

Edward Elric from Fullmetal Alchemist: “did not have a compelling submission in favor of queerness” -Mod A. Additionally we have watched Brotherhood, and don’t really think he’s queer so unless we get an actual argument it’s not happening.

Solo Polyamorous Hijabi Amputee from Twitter: Doesn’t really count as a character.

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would characters who don’t have arms count if it was normal for their species? like most characters do have arms but a large amount don’t have them

Initial answer: do what feels right in your heart.

Actual answer: it really would depend on the character or media, so it’s hard to pass vague judgements. Per Mod A “…kinda a false equivalency but we don’t consider animals disabled cause they don’t have arms [animals like snakes] so why [] would we do that with other species” If you give a specific character then we can tell you if they count. Additionally, if it is treated as a disability or not would have some influence on if they counted or not.