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ghostcore3 Ā· 1 day ago
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"if Toga lived, no responsibility would be taken"
this line is erroneous and contradictory because it defeats the very message that hori was trying to convey, i’m not gonna deny that toga killed innocent people and having mental illness doesn’t absolve her from accountability, so i don’t always agree with her defenders. having said that, hori’s concept of responsibility is inconsistent because lady nagant served time in prison & possibly rehabilitated and she was exonerated for it, same goes for gentle criminal who was eventually released back to society.
so it makes no sense for hori to abandon this line of thinking and apply a different approach with tomura & toga and the league where they were supposed to take rehabilitation and serve time in prison, this method makes them take more responsibility than just dying for viewers sake.
dying didn’t solve MHA’s societal issues and it didn’t shed light to what has caused it in the first place. people like endeavor lived with huge consequences but society still admires him despite him being a rapist and a child abuser. people want to be hero just to save others, not to make them feel seen, hence why abuse victims like tomura weren’t saved and died along with their abusers. this is why the concept of heroism in MHA is flawed and is what tomura was talking about.
it’s just that nobody learned anything from the past and villains achieved nothing by dying tragically. if anything, dying mitigated their ā€œresponsibilityā€, none of them had an opportunity to redeem themselves and have a different perspective on society through rehabilitation.
it seems like hori took allegiance with the viewer’s sake, instead of sticking to the message he tried to convey.
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ghostcore3 Ā· 27 days ago
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whenever I hear ā€œpretty boyā€ the first person I think about is Shigaraki Tomura
they’re synonyms
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ghostcore3 Ā· 29 days ago
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Hiii, I need to know, is weird that I ship Spinner x Tomura? I know there are more popular ships with him like Tomura x Dabi and someones, but I think the two silly gamers would be a cute couple, cuz also Spinner worries a lot for him <33 that's all, bye :p you're also my favourite tomura account xD <3
nope, not at all! in fact, i think spinneraki has better chemistry than shigadabi because the two already share a lot in common, he is canonically closer to tomura than dabi himself so it makes sense to pair them together.
to me, dabi seems to be too indulged into his hatred to even consider something else other than revenge but that’s just my opinion.
also, thanks! i really appreciate it šŸ¤šŸ¤—
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ghostcore3 Ā· 29 days ago
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can you not put your tomura x oc with the tomura shigaraki x reader tag i don’t wnma see my man with someone else when i’m trying to spend time with him
bruh grow the fuck up, he literally belongs to no one but hori so who are you to tell me this?
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ghostcore3 Ā· 30 days ago
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tomura shigaraki finishes his food like a damn gremlin and then the moment you come to eat yours, he suddenly remembers he’s starving and shoves himself in, eating like he didn’t just devour an entire meal ten minutes ago. he doesn’t even want your food, he just wants to make it inconvenient for you, bite into it while staring dead in your face like
ā€œwhat the fuck are you gonna do about it?ā€
it’s not hunger, it’s dominance. kurogiri’s in the back sighing like a tired single mother, scolding him for being a dick again, but tomura doesn’t give a shit. he chews slow just to piss you off.
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ghostcore3 Ā· 1 month ago
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blessing your day with tomura wearing pink socks
(*“▽`*)šŸ¤
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he’s so cute 🄺🄺🄺
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ghostcore3 Ā· 1 month ago
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the illusion of free will
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people say shigaraki is responsible for the deaths he caused, and while i don’t completely deny that, it’s way more complicated than just ā€œfree will.ā€ what people miss is that he was groomed from the age of five, when he was at his most vulnerable until he finally broke free from afo’s grasp. afo deliberately took him in at a point where he was completely dependent on others for guidance, then shaped him into the perfect successor.
to shigaraki, his master wasn’t just a villain, he was his savior, the only one who ā€œunderstoodā€ him, the only one who gave him a sense of purpose after the world abandoned him. and that’s exactly how manipulation works. afo didn’t just take him in, he rewired his entire mind, fed him lies, reinforced his hatred, and conditioned him to believe that destruction was his only salvation. shigaraki never had a chance to form his own worldview because afo made sure to mold it for him.
look at shigaraki’s reaction when he was separated from afo, it wasn’t just anger, it was pure desperation. that’s the reaction of someone who has been so deeply conditioned that he doesn’t know how to function outside of his abuser’s influence. shigaraki was entirely dependent on afo, and when you’re raised under constant manipulation, you don’t suddenly ā€œwake upā€ and realize you’ve been controlled your whole life.
it doesn’t work that way. when he saw all might trying to save bakugo while attacking the league, he felt betrayed by the world all over again. to him, it was proof that heroes will never save people like him. but that idea wasn’t his, it was something afo planted in his mind for years, reinforcing it over and over until shigaraki believed it as an absolute truth. so when afo was no longer there, what was left? nothing but the doctrine his master forced onto him. if he wasn’t groomed, if he wasn’t brainwashed into thinking destruction was his only option, then he would have taken another path. but that was never an option for him because he never had the freedom to choose in the first place. as afo himself admitted, shigaraki never had free will. none of his choices were ever his own.
compare this to dabi and toga. they were abused, but they never had an outside force controlling them like afo did with shigaraki. they became villains on their own terms, dabi out of revenge, toga out of rejection from society. but shigaraki? his entire ideology was forced onto him. if afo had gotten to shoto instead, then shoto would have ended up just like shigaraki.
and here’s the worst part; nobody in the story even questions it. if horikoshi wanted us to humanize the villains, then he should have given them a humanizing death, something that forced people to acknowledge what they went through and how they ended up like this. but instead, nobody even stops to ask why afo had to groom a child into being his successor. nobody wonders why japan’s greatest villain was so reliant on manipulating a mentally ill, traumatized young man into doing his bidding. they just see shigaraki as a monster.
shigaraki never had a choice, but the world acts like he did.
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ghostcore3 Ā· 1 month ago
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Cynical and bitter but I've been wondering if the League getting such a downer ending was indeed the plan all along.
Originally, Horikoshi never wanted to do Villain profiles. He wanted the Villains to be scary. Maybe he always intended death to be the answer to them, even as he expanded on their backstories.
In an old interview from 2018, when asked if Shigaraki is a villain who should be saved, Horikoshi does answer 'yes', but then follow it up with: "I think that we have gotten to the point where Shigaraki can no longer turn back though."
Movie 2 ending - which Horikoshi said was the ending he originally planned - has Deku and Bakugou punching Nine (pseudo-Shigaraki) to death-as-they-know-it.
Once again, technically, Shigaraki's heart was saved. Deku smashed his hatred. Deku took Tenko's hands. Unfortunately Shigaraki didn't immediately convert to Heroism and still wanted to fight for the League - point where he didn't turn back - so Deku gave up trying to save him physically.
A few weeks before, I thought that Horikoshi just got tied and wrapped things up in the quickest and sadly weirdest way possible. I still am willing to allow that, but ever since Horikoshi started Act 3 three years ago, he never actually wrote Heroes giving the Villains' grievances any serious consideration until it comes out during the confrontation and the Heroes giving a few words towards it at best, and at worse, not even knowing the problem (quirk counseling, Tenko's Walk). He let Uraraka and Deku still adhere to insisting on practically dehumanizing their opponents/Villains the day before the final battle (probably so that when Uraraka and Deku realize they still can't ignore the pain they see in their Villains and finally reach out a bit, that's the height of compassion and heroism.)
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But really, sorry not sorry to sound like a broken record, Act 3 had Deku acting like a dipshit the entire time. He says he wants to save The Crying Child he saw inside Shigaraki's heart, and not necessarily Shigaraki the person, and never actually takes killing off the table. He only vaguely keeps up this idea. He never reveals this desire to anyone, never involves his friends or adults in this plan. He doesn't even have a concrete plan, and all he never did was just to keep punching Shigaraki to kingdom come. He never actually protested when Gran Torino told him he should kill Shigaraki, he never opposes the creation of a battlefield called "Sky Coffin", he does not speak up when the Heroes says they prefer the AFO persona to be in possession of Shigaraki. During their whole fight, Deku barely talks to the guy.
The best Deku ever does is to hold back on giving Shigaraki an annihilation blow until he could find out why The Crying Child was crying, which he does by literally smashing into Shigaraki's core to pry his trauma open. And even then, when Tenko is spilling out his guilt and grief that he killed his family, as well as his fears that his existence is cursed, all Deku has to say is "Well, holding hands feels nice, so I'm here." I get that's supposed to be like, Deku accepting Tenko despite Tenko having a deadly quirk and blood on his hands, but come on. As an act of Greatest Heroism that it's supposed to be, that's so... low bar, to put it mildly.
(Then when Shigaraki gets repossessed, Deku gives up any thinking on saving Shigaraki, and then readies up the annihilation punch. Volume release even expands on just how much power and preparation Deku is using to smash Shigaraki's body to pieces. There's no intent to figure out if Shigaraki is still there to bring back or minimize harm to Shigaraki's body so there's something left after AFO is gone. It's not an accident. Deku fully goes in for the kill.)
It all feels like truly saving Shigaraki - from possession, from AFO, from his distorted worldview, from a Hero System that hurt his friends, from his belief that the world isn't worth preserving - just wasn't a real goal for Deku. Never was, in Act 3. He wanted to understand The Crying Child and give some relief there, but that's it. Like exorcising an evil spirit and then forcing them to move on, never actually wanting the spirit to remain and continue existing - because there's no place for them in this world. (Which is why Deku also never has a vision for what comes after, for Shigaraki. Shouto wanted a meal with Dabi, Uraraka promised her blood to Toga, but Deku? Nothing.)
Overall, the ending actually does fit Deku's writing in the last act. He wants to save the ghost of The Crying Child but nothing else. He expands minimal effort in actually connecting with Shigaraki the adult man. He has no interest in addressing Shigaraki's grievances (nor in also saving the rest of League that Shigaraki is doing all this for) (and also it turns out Shigaraki's grievances aren't real because AFO made most of them up). His strategy is just to beat up Shigaraki until Shigaraki throws up his trauma.
Adding to that, Deku's last words to a dying Shigaraki is that he can't forgive him, so basically he's considering Shigaraki as having past the point of return - exactly as Horikoshi stated in his interview. There might be something to Deku regretfully telling All Might that he couldn't save Tenko's life, but when he follows it up with "Even after I smashed his hatred, he still wanted to stay the League's leader," that really can't be anything but Deku basically putting some of the blame on Shigaraki, for not ditching his friends (who, to Deku, apparently don't deserve to be saved alongside Shigaraki). Sticking with the League is being past the point of turning back... which is the same conclusion Hawks comes to with Twice, in Act 2 (...so it seems that's been there all along.)
The ending fits Deku's writing - and overall - in the last act (and even before that.) Deku's utter non-progress fits Shigaraki's conclusion. His half-hearted actions made sense and so of course led to his final battle of just giving Shigaraki a giant Smash (but with pity and some sympathy, because he's not an cold killer but a Hero who can even spare emotions towards a monster).
I really had toyed with the idea that maybe Horikoshi got tired and just ended it this sad way. Now I'm no longer so generous.
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ghostcore3 Ā· 1 month ago
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ghostcore3 Ā· 3 months ago
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hiii
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ghostcore3 Ā· 4 months ago
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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shigaraki would butt himself in between any league member that sits next you. with QUICKNESS!
a few members notice this and sit next to you before he does to mess with him
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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IM SORRY I JUST HAD A VISION
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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tomura shigaraki isn’t the type to be shy around someone he likes. all for one didn’t raise him like a normal child, and it shows. he’s straightforward about what he wants, needs, and hates.
so if he wants something from you, expect him to be vocal about it. if something itches him, he’s going to express it. he doesn’t hold back or shy away from what bothers him. while he doesn’t vocalize love easily, he’s not afraid to show admiration or respect when he feels it.
embarrassment and shame? not in his vocabulary. tomura strikes me as someone who embraces his feelings and desires without hesitation, especially when it comes to expressing what he respects or admires about others, what he hates and wants from them.
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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Hey, I’ve been reading a lot of your BNHA metas, (they’re all absolutely awesome btw) and I was wondering about two things, what kind of mental illness do you think Shigaraki has? And I read a post somewhere that speculated that he might have suffered a tbi when his father hit him with the tree sheers, do you think that might be true?
Hello anon, thank you for your ask!Ā 
I will try to answer your questions the best I can, however beforehand I think it’s important to note that I don’t really like diagnosing characters outside of like specific examples where the authors tell us this is the disease they were attempting to portray, or headcanons. Shigaraki clearly shows signs of mental illness, but I don’t think Horikoshi writes characters by looking up a list of symptoms in the DSM and then writing them based on that.Ā 
Also yes, the two clearest examples of mental Illness (Shigaraki, Twice) are both villains but I have faith that the mental illness of Shigaraki is an instance where it’s used to humanize him and show how much of a victim of a system both characters are, rather than just to give the villain traits that are abnormal and therefore creepy and dangerous.Ā 
I can’t give you a specific dianogisis but I can give you a more in depth look at several symptoms that Shigaraki displays.Ā 
ExcoriationĀ 
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Excoriation disorder is an obsessive-compulsive spectrum mental disorder that is characterized by the repeated urge or impulse to pick at one’s own skin to the extent that either psychological or physical damage is caused. In Shigaraki’s case it’s clearly a stress response that is aggravated the more violent, unstable or dangerous a situation he is put into.Ā 
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Which is why I find claims that Shigaraki is content with violence, or likes being a killer and is comfortable living this way to be false. Because Shigaraki’s own body constantly rejects him. He feels a compuslive need to scratch and harm himself because his body cannot handle the stress of being violent. It’s a stress response because Shigaraki does not actually on some level want to be doing these things, and living in a constant state of stress and harm makes him more compelled to vent his stress by following his compulsions.Ā 
The compulsion he feels can sometimes get so bad that in childhood he was rolling around the floor, crying and frantically scratching his whole body. This is not what All for One said and him holding back his urge to kill, but rather Shigaraki responding to the stress. Shigaraki is seven and was put in front of two homeless people who were threatening to harm him and he already came from a physically abusive household. He’s in unbelievable stress with no healthy way of venting it, and thereofre he compulsively self harms.Ā 
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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Shigaraki Tomura: Abuse and Victimhood
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While Shigaraki is introduced to us the readers as an unstable manchild, bent on killing All Might the symbol of good in the manga for unknown reasons as the story delves more and more into Shigaraki’s background it becomes quickly apparent he’s not just some villain without cause to be a villain.Ā 
The stroy makes a clear case that Shigaraki is a victim of the system that fell through the cracks. However, he was not just neglected by the people and heroes who failed to save him, but also by his savior All for One, who adopted him solely for the purpose of becoming a villain. This post is going to be making the case that All for One is an abusive mentor, and Shigaraki is a clear victim of abuse who shows several traits of it in the manga.Ā 
The kind of abuse that Shigaraki endured is pretty much the reverse side of what Endeavor did to Todoroki. Rather than having a child for the sole purpose of becoming a hero to succeed him, and then forcing that child into training and raising him with the expectation of being a successor, Shigaraki went through the reverse being raised from the young age and put through dehumanizing training to be a villain. The difference being that Shigaraki’s story is mostly untold to the audience at this point unlike Todoroki who is one of the main characters the story follows, so a lot of the signs of abuse for Shigaraki are instead hinted to or eluded at for the audience.Ā 
Shigaraki is first presented to us as a very inhuman character. The traits that he’s shown having at this point are meant to otherize him, they are classical villain traits. Poor posture, creepy faces, lack of empathy.Ā 
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Shigaraki jumps straight to violence towards children as an acceptable step to getting what he wants. He’s a very thorough other, as it will be elaborated on later by Deku in the manga he’s not really someone others can understand at this point, he’s just lashing out baselessly. Basically his way of thinking and his way of acting is meant to seem as foreign as possible to normal people, and his incomprehensibility is supposed to make him look like a villain in our eyes. Because at this point the audience does not know who Shigaraki is at all, he’s just some creepy guy who showed up to attack some kids. However, there are lots of hints at deeper characterization in this scene.Ā 
In his introduction scene Shigaraki’s childishness is demonstrated again and again as well. He refers to all the other low ranking villains he’s brought along asĀ ā€˜playmates’.Ā 
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When he’s faced with setbacks, Shigaraki seems to have no true method of handling his emotions and resorts to excoriation, self harm instead hurting his own skin to vent the frustration.Ā 
Excoriation disorder (also referred to as chronic skin-picking or dermatillomania) is a mental illness related to obsessive-compulsive disorder. It is characterized by repeated picking at one’s own skin which results in skin lesions and causes significant disruption in one’s life.
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Shigaraki compliments his heroes too like a child would, praising how cool they are. He also compares the current scenario to a video game multiple times, referring to the Nomu as the final boss.Ā 
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Attention is drawn over and over again to his sickly posture, and once more Shigaraki can’t handle setbacks or failure, and the negative emotions that come with those things at all. His first response is to self harm, scratching at his neck until he draws blood, his second is to resort to violence and threaten Kurogiri on a whim only barely restraining himself and his third is to give up. Once again employ the video game language.Ā 
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When All Might interrupts we’re given further signs of Shigaraki’s instability. He addresses the hand on his face as father, the hand that grips his face almost violently, and not only that but he apologizes when it gets knocked away. This is another recurring trend his fixation on that one hand.Ā 
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Here’s another important part to Shigaraki’s writing. Again and again he’s seen by the outside system as just another villain who enjoys violence. Shigaraki also accepts that categorization very readily.Ā ā€œPeople who fight for ideals have a different sort of fire in their eyesā€, Shigaraki accepts the assertion that he fights for no reason at all very easily even though we find out later in the manga that is not the case.Ā 
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He’s such a baby, really.Ā 
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So, from this introduction scene Shigaraki seems like an extremely irrational villain out to kill All Might, and therefore a pure evil to fight the pure good who is All Might one of the most wholesome heroes in the series for no rational reason why. One with no morals or restraints willing to even attack children, and who is so irrationally violent he snaps and lashes out at the smallest of setbacks.Ā 
This is just the shallow lens we’re given to him at the start of the series however, because at this point we are only following the perspective of the heroes and not the villains, and Shigaraki is a definite outsider character. Most normal, rational people can find nothing to sympathize with in his mindset, nor can they understand him and that’s the deliberate point to his character. He’s mean tot be somebody who fell through the cracks.Ā 
If you read closer, Shigaraki is coded with a lot of traits of mental illness. First, whenever there is any kind of setback Shigaraki’s first response is to punish himself and self harm repeatedly. He can’t handle any stress at all without channeling it into some kind of violence and he’s just as willing to do it to himself as he is to others.Ā 
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Next Shigaraki is so observant that even in the middle of a fight he can keep a running track of a deatil as small as the amount of time that Aizawa blinks. Shigaraki doesn’t have a specific disorder given to him by the author so I won’t go that far into depth about it, but it’s a common neuroatypical trait like that to be able to pick up on really fine details while at the same time seeming to miss out on a lot of obvious ones like social cues.Ā 
Thirdly Shigaraki is a giant man-child as emphasized over and over again above. Not only does he have almost no control of his emotions, falling into panic, getting nervous or upest easily but he also frames everything as a game around him. His most common way of dealing with those emotions is like a child to throw a tantrum about it and visibly lash out almost immediately rather than try to handle his upset feelings. He even has the body language of a child, posing meekly like this from time to time.Ā 
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He dresses in sh a black shirt, black slacks or sweat pants, and bright red shoes which is not only meant to suggest a childish lack of care in his own appearance, but also is something that foils him to Deku a fourteen year old who dresses pretty much the same way. Shigaraki constantly gives shallow praise to the heroes he fights likeĀ ā€œThat’s coolā€ like he’s watching them on television. ANd he also is fickle like a child, giving up easily and lacking any kind of dedication and resolve. He also treats a life and death battle where he’s willing to kill kids to get what he wants like it’s just a game, not at all realizing the stakes. Which his complete and utter lack of empathy, not understanding the emotions of the other people he’s terrorizing or hurting to get what he wants is another childish traits as developmentally children are rather unempathic and have a self centered view of the world.
Now normally manchild has negative connotations as a man who deliberately chose not to grow up, and remains selfish, childish, etc. and hurts others with that irresponsible attitude there are also cases where victims of abuse grow into manchildren and retain childish traits into adulthood because they were not given any proper chance at all to grow up.Ā 
In that sense you can’t compare everyone with the same yard stick. While yes abuse is not an excuse out of responsibility for every single action a character takes, or their lack of personal self reflection or development there’s still a definite reason why Shigaraki exhibits all of these childish traits. From what we know of his backstory, he was taken in as a child and then raised in a hideout like the bar we see him in with Kurogiri, communicating not with a person who was raising him but rather a person on the other side of a monitor. Which means that it’s heavily hinted Shigaraki was raised with little to no human contact, and entirely outside of society.Ā 
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So a lot of people don’t understand that developmental psychology is important for how a child grows and develops, especially in extremely divergent from the norm cases like Tomura’s upbringing. He’s basically conditioned to be a child soldier if you were to summarize his whole upbringing in more relatable real world terms outside of the MHA hero/villain dichotomy.Ā 
Basically everyone is expected to grow up yes, but there are important things like interacting with parents, interacting with children your own age, growing up in a consistently safe environment which encourages children to grow up healthier. Of course there will be people who refuse to grow up no matter how good their life is that’s what most people are referring to when they use the term manchild, but there are also people who don’t receive the ideal circumstances to grow up, and also abuse and harm can further damage these processes.
Most normal people grow up inside of society, they have friends, they go to school everyday and not only do they learn information, but they also learn socially. They learn to think critically about things and therefore are able to self reflect, handle failure, etc… They envision the emotions of other people because they interact with them on a day to day basis. Also they are raised in an environment that is generally secure for them.
Then compare this to Shigaraki, as far as we know he grew up with as little human contact as possible because All for One would not want anybody interrupting his pet project. Therefore he lashes out at his own allies and enemies equally. He did not go to school, he had no people he was attached to nor he saw on a daily basis. Most of all he grew up on the other side of the law so he was probably constantly in danger and his life was at jeapordy. So all of these things which are there to help children develop Shigaraki is cut off from. Basically the only things that All for One supplies are things that will make him into a better villain, Nomu, resources, and allies. A child basically raised in a villain’s evil lair their entire life who gets most of their social interaction through a voice coming to the end of a montior is going to have extremely low empathy because they were never given a chance to develop empathy. Which makes sense because a villainous mastermind is raising him to be a villain. What good would him hesitating to kill others, or worrying about the victims of his violence do a villain.Ā 
So Shigaraki already shows severe signs of neglect, he’s dirty, he can barely dress himself, he self harms and can’t handle his emotions and can barely interact with others. His hair and face are both a mess most likely due to complete lack of care, and his own tendency to self harm. These are all developmental problems connected with an abusive upbringing. How is Shigaraki meant to empathize and see the way society sees things when he has grown up entirely outside of society. Shigaraki has been thoroughly dehumanized and treated like a tool by the person who raised him, to condition him to dehumanize others and only see them as tools. Which will suit All for One’s plans for his sucessor just perfectly. Once again this is nothing that Shigaraki consented to as an adult. A child who was probably less than ten years old lost his only caretakers and then latched onto the only person who gave them any kind of support at all when everybody else passed him by. Shigaraki had basically no choice at all in this upbringing. He was moulded entirely by All for One’s desires.Ā 
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So once again, Shigaraki can’t put his motivations into words because he’s not motivated by anything really. At this point he’s just lashing out, and trying to carry on the expectation that All for One put on his shoulder. Stain even calls him a temper tantrum throwing child, he’s lashing out because he has an underlying pain deep within him that he cannot address, heal or fix in any way so he’s trying to deal with the emotions through violence. He was also, taught most likely to deal with these emotions this way.
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Yet we see All for One, Shigaraki’s primary abuser positioning himself as an educator helping with his growth. Even though Shigaraki would have grown normally if he had not grown up in such a remote environment and only interacted with in his growth and development as a hero. So, comparing Deku and Shigaraki right now Deku is also being mentored by another hero but Deku has a home life he can go back to, he has a mom that takes care of him, the mentorship and his growth and training as a hero is something he chose to do. Whereas Shigaraki had little to no choice, and he also has literally no life outside being a villain. Nor did he ever have one because since he was a child he was picked up by All for One and raised for this purpose.Ā 
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Once again Shigaraki’s traits are still there. He basically has no reaction to violence done against him until somebody disturbs the hand on his face. He even laughs it off. Which you know, has implications.
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Shigaraki was raised to hate All Might, but also his main conviction is lashing out society because he is not a part of it, and he never will be accepted into it at this point.Ā 
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Stain even says, as irrational as he is his goal is to upset the status quo that Stain is discontent with which stopped Stain from attacking him any further. Even if they have completely opposite reasons for doing so. And for Shigaraki it’s a personal motivation, he fell through the cracks of society, nobody came to save him, and he wants to get back at it. He doesn’t like that everybody else has the comfort and security that he was denied.Ā 
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Once again we see, Shigaraki has a tendency to lash out baselessly when he has to deal with any pain, or conflict at all. He has no idea how to handle it, he also wasn’t really raised to handle it.
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So then the school trip arc comes around and we get more evidence of Shigaraki’s stunted behavior, immediately attacking new allies the moment he’s introduced to them, not able to socialize with them at all and resorting to violence because he’s inĀ ā€œa bad moodā€. Kurogiri has to practically act like Shigaraki’s handler at this point because he can barely be trusted on his own.
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In chapter 69 we get the first bit of self reflection from Shigaraki. When talking to Deku he’s honestly trying to figure things out about himself. So, the first thing he mentions is how everybody else unlike him is not living in constant danger and how that seems so odd to him. The peace and security everybody else is enjoying without him makes him very easy to imagine a scenario where he just throws all his carefully laid plans away and starts going into the crowd and going on a killing spree before he’s eventually put down.Ā 
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This makes sense when you consider Shigaraki’s environment though, he’s one raised outside of society, peace, law and its comforts and denied those things and two he was not taught in any way to value human life at all. Now I argued earlier that Shigaraki is a character who is coded to be highly neurodivergent, and also mentally ill, but I want to clarify I don’t think this violence is a part of his mental illness. This violence is Shigaraki’s response to being raised in a violent environment, an environment of constant danger and then going outside and seeing how seemingly peaceful everybody else is. Shigaraki expects violence, it’s his number one solution to everything but he doesn’t see that in the society around him and he’s confused why he’s so different from them. It’s like if you were to take a solider out of a warzone and put them in a suburb of course they would get confused because their expectations for everything are different down to a sensory level.Ā 
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Shigaraki as a person is constantly in a bad mood, doesn’t seem to enjoy anything about life, is constantly agitated and has no idea how to deal with those emotions. None of these are traits of a villain who was raised in a healthy environment or is particularly even enjoying it.Ā 
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He’s also very attention hungry and wants people to see his villainous actions. He wants there to be a marked change in society from what he does, he wants to cause ripples. This attention hungry aspect and his inability to function when people aren’t paying attention to him is also another childish trait.Ā 
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Deku even points this out about Shigaraki. That his mentality is foreign to most people, that people can’t understand why he thinks the way he does, or why he acts the way he does. If you know nothing about his background, he just looks like an irrational, violent, manchild. Of course Deku wouldn’t empathize with him he’s very scary and wanted to kill him, but the point is the default is most people wouldn’t empathize with him because Shigaraki is such an outsider who was conditioned and raised in a way so far outside of society nobody can really see him. He’s dehumanized so thoroughly to only play the role of villain. People have trouble seeing him as a victim of any kind because of how much of an outsider or an other he acts like. This is also something that will come up a little bit later.Ā 
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Then we have Shigaraki’s rant which finally establishes what I’ve been saying all along that he resents the whole of society for being safe and secure when he is not, for being saved when he was not and we see him start to uncontrollably flash back to his past as he loses control of his behavior. That Shigaraki in the past either accidentally or on purpose killed his father with his own quirk and then only the hand was left behind leading to his fixation on the hand grabbing his face.Ā 
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To the point where he carries the hand in his own pocket at all times and his hero disguise is to be have the hand grabbing his face.Ā 
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Now Shigaraki’s costume design eludes to this abusive violence as well. As you can see the hand which he calls father is grappling his face. Allow me to make some rocket science level conclusions here, when a father or adult grips your face in such a manner its usually to be violent towards a child. Couple that with Shigaraki’s nonchalance when dealing with pain something that’s deonstrated with twice, when he was shot by a hero and then stabbed by Stain. Also that he chose to make his costume his entire body being covered by those disembodied hands, it’s likely the home that Shigaraki was rescued from even before All For One showed up and started influencing him was a violent one.Ā 
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Shigaraki’s official art has him bring grabbed from every angle by other hands, some of them even manipulating his own hands. That’s pretty clear visual language for a loss of agency and an exploitation, not only violence. Hands covering a body have been used again and again for visual langugae for adult violence towards children in the past.Ā 
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Hands.Ā 
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Hands.Ā 
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Hands.Ā 
It’s pretty commonly used visual shorthand. So not only is Shigaraki’s costume representative of the violence he’s endured, and also he often self harms in response to any kind of minor stress at all, in Shigaraki’s next flashback we see more of the condition he grew up in.Ā 
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Shigaraki was hunched up against a wall, in a phsyically dirty environment where nobody took notice of him. It’s highly likely he wasn’t living in a good place even before All For One showed up. Ye the only person who saw him and helped him was All for One, but that too the words he comforted Shigaraki with was an implicit manipulation.Ā 
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Notice how the panel is framed. They’re encouraging words but rather than shown any kind of warmth or encouragement in the framing of the panel instead the entire background is white noise. This praise is meant to be seen as horrifying. Even though what he’s saying is pretty standard words of encouragement, from All For One’s mouth they’re meant to be read not only as dangerous but manipulative. It’s reminiscent of the second opening where Shigaraki is kneeling in front of a monitor and All for One’s hand reaches out and touches his head. A pat on the head is usually a gesture of praise but everything from Shigaraki’s posture of totally reverence to the point it comes out of a monitor is uncanny.
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This is just more manipulation. Shigaraki is being raised to be entirely dependent on All For One, to exist for the sake of All For One, and being conditioned to think that he owes All For One for every single tiny inhuman scrap of kindness he showed him.
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We’re shown a brief flash of child Shigaraki who is in the aftermath of whatever happened to his father. He’s dirty, his clothes are practically in rags, and the scars around his eyes and the one that splits his lip have already been formed and seem to be childhood injuries. Further hinting that Shigaraki came from some kind of abuse before being picked up by All For One. And it’s clear, Shigaraki latched onto the only kind of parental figure he has, All For One is the only person that Shigaraki shows any concern for their well being at first until he loses him. But that doesn’t necessarily mean All For One is a good parental figure by any means, but it does show how starved for affection and any kind of human contact Shigaraki is that he’s attached himself to All For One and is willing to carry out the rest of his ideals. All for One basically found an injured and battered kid and moulded him to think that he was his savior and everything he did, every manipulation, raising him outside of society as a tool for a sucessor was kindness and consideration on his part and Shigaraki doesn’t know better because he hasn’t been shown better.
And All For One makes it clear right away he didn’t save Shigaraki out of any altruism at all. He did it primarily to dick around with All Might and also to give himself a successor. It doesn’t really matter who Shimura Tenko is to All For One, just the fact that he carries the shimura bloodline is something that will mess with All Might’s head.Ā 
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All For One even blatantly says he was raising Shigaraki to be fueled mainly on malice, hatred and his regrets towards society. Not to have any kind of healthy or rational means behind his actions. Also note how Shigaraki doens’t start improving mentally at all until he’s separated from All For One. So not only was Shigaraki raised and conditioned to be a crimminal, there’s not really an escape for him in the outside world. Gran Torino calls it foolish to see the boy as a victim.
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Imagine if they said this about Eri. If Eri grew up under Chisaki’s violent abuse and then Chisaki passed the leadership of the eight precepts onto her, and then afterwards the heroes who were fighting her saidĀ ā€œYou can’t think of Eri as anything less than a villain, sure she was raised by the yakuza cut off from the outside world and experimented on everyday, but now she’s a violent crimminal so she can’t be seen as anything else.ā€
Shigaraki is dehumanized by not only the person who raised him but also society, he dehumanizes society in return and nothing is able to get resolved and no progress is made because the chain of abuse remains unbroken. Shigaraki will be a victim, even if he lashes out violently. There are very rare and few circumstances where children raised by adults who have all power over them conditioning them to be violent, and to grow up in a certain way entirely outside of society viewing no alternative for themselves are able to not be conditioned in that way. Even Eri saw herself as something horrible and ugly because Chisaki told her so every day and she had nobody else to tell her otherwise.Ā 
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Shigaraki’s abuse is the same as the abuse Endeavor gave to Todoroki. He wasn’t raised as a child to be loved and grow up into their own person, but rather as a creation to inherit their father figure’s fight for them, and because of that they were cut off from the rest of the world socially as well.Ā 
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Shigaraki was only ever intended to carry on All For One’s will and not have a will of his own. Not only does All For One not see Shigaraki as an indivdual, but he’s also tried to do the same thing in the past.Ā 
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All For One is willing to go so far as to beat up, lock up and starve his younger brother to coerce him into seeing his side of things. In the case of the original holder of One for All it doesn’t work. It’s not a case of Shigaraki being a bad person and the brother being a good person though.
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The brother was already an adult when this manipulation was attempted, which meant he already had his own set of ideals, was probably raised in a family, and knew what society was. That’s entirely different from trying those kind of techniques on a child who has one a complete power difference, two no positive ideals of their own, no positive role models, no critical thinking skills to question the information they’re being fed and four is completely emotionally, and in all other ways dependant on All For One. So yeah, manipulation techniques work way easier like this on children because children don’t have their own thoughts and idea formed yet.Ā 
Basically, All For One is shown to be completly willing to beat up, starve to death and abuse his own brother who he claimed to love, which must tell you how he feels about Shigaraki who he really only sees as a tool to one get back at All Might and two carry on his legacy for him. There’s a whole lot of implciations on how Shigaraki must have been treated which are not shown on screen but it is established that this is how All For One Manipulates people and gets their loyalty.Ā 
So, there goes my long winded analysis on what exactly kind of character Shigaraki is. He’s a victim of abuse, but he’s not a good victim, nor is he an excusable one. He’s the kind of victim that everybody will see as a villain, and that society can’t accept. He’s ugly, his way of thinking is not understandable to most people because he was raised so far outside of society, he lashes out at almost every given opportunity. Not only is he a victim, he’s a victim that won’t be saved by the traditional heroes. Twice puts it best.Ā 
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The people the heroes save are always the good virtuous ones. However, considering how much of a victim Shigaraki is I hope rather than letting those who fell through the cracks fall further, the manga is shaping up to reform the hero system so that people who fell through the cracks can be recognized and saved by the heroes too. Which is why ultimately I believe Shigaraki is still a victim and also one in need of saving despite whee his current actions are leading him.Ā 
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ghostcore3 Ā· 6 months ago
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Shigaraki’s Nihilism
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Shigaraki Tomura’s mindset is a difficult one to understand. So much so, even in story both heroes and fellow villains alike reject his mindset as incomprehensible and unsympathetic. He comes off to them nothing more than a brat who wants attention and is throwing a tantrum, or just a villain who is as pure as a villain as one can get, one who only exists to destroy lacking a redeemable motive like stain.Ā 
However, the real reason Shigaraki is incomprehensible to characters in story, and even some members of the audience is because of his position as an outsider. All of the other characters in the story, inherently believe that society, their actions, their values all have meaning. Shigaraki is someone who positioned as the outsider to society, sees it all as meaningless and becomes in opposition to everything. Which is why Shigaraki finds sympathizers in his fellow outsiders, who cannot find the same meaning and place in society that everybody else does.Ā 
ā€œDestroy Everythingā€ may sound like a vague cliche of a villain goal, but it can be viewed as an extension of nihilism. Shigaraki rejects, recklessly so, all moral principles that Hero Society has told him should have meaning. He is the ultimate challenge to Hero Society’s hypocrisy. I will explain more under the cut.Ā 
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