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That would be such a wild marketing choice if Will's love was unrequited. Borderline criminal lmao.

Here's a fun idea! Dress up as a miserable boy and his unrequited love interest this Halloween! Fun times guaranteed for everyone (except Will).

Reminder that Netflix in October 2024 released an article about Halloween costumes. And they listed El as an "individual" costume and Mike/Will as a "couple" costume.

I still can't believe this actually happened. (x)

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So we're now using AI pics on official international Netflix accounts? Wow!

Not them only giving us a miserable teaser 😭😭😭😭 RELEASE THE TRAILER

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come onn you can do it I believe in you 😫

and why do we think that is...

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...huh???

I need someone to make me like a PowerPoint presentation to understand this take, I'm now genuinely invested in these mental gymnastics. Seems like a fun ride.

we’re called delusional but there’s milkvans on twitter now convincing themselves the painting is actually “milkvan coded” i'm crying like legitimately what does that even mean?? 😭 

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Oh no, not the big bad wolf Mr Lawyer becoming our supreme leader and promising us the bright future!

I still don't understand why some people are so hot and bothered over other people's opinions, and in what way does this ruin their experience of the fandom.

If you think people are just being delusional, why does it bother you so much? There's a difference between "I don't like this stupid take and here are my arguments against it" and "I'm throwing up word salad and making a tantrum on the internet because someone said something I don't like".

Wow, if Bylers were so "delusional" then surely you wouldn't be so bothered by a video about a ship that had no chance then, wouldja? =D

You act as if I just exposed you or something...

-teambyler

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Ok, let me rant about that ring because I keep seeing it on my dashboard.

I guess that side of the fandom has an expectation of a retcon-plot-twisty flashback of Mike giving El the promise ring and then acting emotionally distant in season 4 for...reasons, but now the reasons are obviously resolved, and the plot twist ending is a grandiose proposal because Mike had his come-to-Jesus moment after his gay best friend rubbed his shoulders and fixed all of his problems by lying to him. Sounds absolutely riveting. No wonder the Duffers are paid big bucks to write and produce this.

In all seriousness, such retcon, even though a bit lazy, would work for a pairing in the will-they-won't-they fanfiction dynamic, not for a couple of teens that still don't understand each other and are currently teetering on the verge of a breakup. A piece of the character's wardrobe that was never addressed by anyone or given any backstory in canon is not the same as Hopper's hairtie El still wears. By later seasons, that piece of the character's wardrobe has become an Easter Egg with significant emotional attachment. This Easter Egg becomes a piece of trivia and functions in the same way it functions in, for example, LOTR (and spoiler alert, ig) when Aragorn's costume incorporates Boromir's bracers after his death. It's a nod to the viewer and a character building piece.

The ring, if given to her by Mike off-screen, could still be an Easter Egg and a cute sidenote on the show's IMDB page, but to expect anything beyond that is very silly.

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Genuine question: why would they want something as important as a promise ring to be reduced to a piece of trivia on the show's IMDB page? It's not addressed by the narrative at all. That would actually piss me the fuck off if such an important plot point was treated as a sidenote. I feel like I'm trying to have an intervention with my friend who thinks her boyfriend is the one simply because he remembered her birthday. Such low standards for the main couple of the show.

no way milevens are saying that el’s ring that mike supposedly gave to her in between s3 and s4 is as significant as the painting… girl most people don’t even know what the ring is… it is not mentioned in the show once. i mean to even compare that to something that has clearly been set up to be significant in so many ways… i just can’t believe these are the people that are telling us we look too much into things 😭

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https://t.co/JzE9GkLAOg

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I'll save you the read. We think he's a cunt.

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Mike treats El like he wants to be treated. He wants to feel special. So he makes sure El knows she’s special by reminding her of how she’s so amazing and important and a superhero.

And she is special. But she really wants to be normal. So she writes Mike letters about her normal life with her normal friends and takes him on normal dates. She treats Mike the way she wants to be treated.

They fell in love with the idea of each other. A nerd like Mike is enamoured by her special powers and they could be _different_ together.

And a lab raised child like El would seek comfort in what’s normal, and Mike comes from a very normal family. And having a boyfriend is normal for girls and having a girlfriend is normal for boys so Mike being El’s boyfriend means that they could be _normal_ together.

While the one making Mike feel special is Will.

And the one making El feel normal is Max.

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And worst of all are the people that think Mike is going to feel uncomfortable around Will when he comes out and is going to be the one who has to have an arc of accepting him

ST Reddit stop projecting your own homophobia on Mike Wheeler Level Impossible

The way some people (*cough* ST Reddit *cough*) think that Mike is somehow never going to find out Will loves him and/or truly believe Mike won’t find out Will is gay in Season 5 astounds me. And worst of all are the people that think Mike is going to feel uncomfortable around Will when he comes out and is going to be the one who has to have an arc of accepting him, like what??

Mike, who literally defended Will from homophobic bullies in Season 1? Mike, who refused to leave Will’s side all of Season 2, even though he was possessed and could very well endanger Mike’s own life? Mike, who time and time again sought Will out (when Will is the one with a canon crush on Mike), trying to ensure he's okay or trying to make amends? Mike, who is constantly speaking to Will in a soft and tender voice he reserves to no one else? Mike, who literally keeps staring at Will's lips every five seconds? That Mike??

Mike may have a hell of a lot of internalized homophobia going on. But he would never be homophobic to Will.

I mean Finn already said in Season 4 interviews that Mike would be accepting of Will, so why are some people desperately hoping for a homophobic Mike arc in S5?

What are these people going to think when Season 5 ‘comes out’ (pun intended) and it’s revealed Will isn’t the only gay boy in the Party?

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Ok, so they think Will is going to die, but they want Will to have a happy ending that includes him confessing his love to Mike only to be rejected. Right.

I would wager a guess the OP is very young. That would explain the "what was all of these other seasons for" and them wanting Dustin to become a cradle snatcher.

You really want me to believe somebody who thinks Erica will end up with Dustin?

They really don’t understand the concept of two people of opposite genders being friends…

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I'm stimming too much today and my most frequent stim is me spaming the middle mouse button which is annoying because I'm using Maya and that button effects stuff I'm working on and it's making my eye twitch.......

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I'm not usually one to jump to conclusions, but this subtle (and sometimes blatant) Will hatred really makes me question some things about those people.

This was on a post talking about the Party members favorites and this poster agreed that El and Lucas are Mike's favorites and uhhh

Bro... If anyone's lost the plot it's the people on ST Reddit where they all live in an echo chamber of denial due to their own barely-veiled homophobia.