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Since it's been a while since The Ruler came out. What Y'all Think the next Miraculous episode is gonna be? My croissants are on The Dirtifiers.

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El Toro De Piedra, I was honestly shocked when I saw police trying to arrest Raul Bruel, cause I did not excpect it. But when I found WHY he was being arrested, I just went oh, he's being arrested because he's been akumatized? Well stupid reason, since you've been akumatized two times yourself Roger, but glad Ladybug and Chat Noir stepped up.

Well there are SOME people are shitting on Marinette once again. While I am not a fan of most of Marinette's decisions, this one, is fair in some ways. This is my opinion, supported by somewhat an evidence, and I still do not like Ivan's dad, I treat him the same as that Monarchfucker.

First of all, Raul was not being arrested for actual crimes, he was being arrested for being an akumatized villain and destruction of the city evidence said by Roger himself when Ladybug asked why Raul was getting arrested. Which is not a valid reason cause there had been thousands of akumatization, one or two every day and non of the akumatized ever got arrested.

And for the actual crimes he committed (at the time): there is none, because he didn't even commit it, he did what he was supposed to do for volenteering; guard the painting. While yes, conspiring a crime is illegal, but only the audience knows that information, the only character that knows that is Ivan himself. That's it. We could argue about the security equipment, but if you were a grand criminal, would you relay that important information knowing the risk of getting caught? Unless you completely knew it was a safe place?

Even IF he got arrested for the right reason, there isn't that much evidence against him, only evidence being Ivan's testimony, and his background as a criminal.

I didn't include the duffel bag, because it was likely destroyed or lost during the ox stampede because Ivan didn't grabbed the bag. Of course there's also Miraculous Ladybug that could fix it. But this is France were talking about, a country who had one of the highest theft rate during the time season 6 2016. With the duffel bag left unattended it definitely got stolen.

With this, and the fact that he was currently on a second chance program, the case of him winning in the court is high.

And for anyone whos still trying to argue that Marinette is defending a criminal, don't forget Adrien is doing the same for fucking sake, unprompted by Ladybug even. While that's half true, they are defending him from the wrong crime.

That's all folks, if I forgot something please let me know.

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Miraculous Fandom Forums

Ok the fandom has several forums on social media, and if I'm being honest, if you want to be a part of a fandom that suits in Miraculous then here are your options. This isn't a ranking, just telling you what you're getting into.

Tumblr: It's right here! Most of the post are neutral meaning there's not going to be salt or sugar every post unless you specify. All the post are written, occasional art, and comments on random stuff. So this is recommended if you prefer to stay neutral. But you're already here so that's that.

Tik Tok: This one I personally DO NOT LIKE. There are ton of edits, character positivity, and sugar. The comments can be unhinged at times, questionable even, and maybe mean. The salt is salting in this forum, I once saw a post fucking sexualizing a minor. Why I don't like this personally is most of them is being straight up FATPHOBIC to Mylene/Polymouse and SLIGHT HOMOPHOBIA. I don't have Tik Tok for a reason.

Youtube: Ok so this is an interesting place, because I mentioned before that there were "fanfics" on here that always fucking messed with Kagami, Nathaniel, and Lila so badly. On the other hand there are ton of great miraculous YouTubers, so don't let one bad apple ruin the bunch. I love the forum only annoying thing are those click bait edited photos thumbnails. (Update: Upon checking again, it does have some negatively with most being repost from Tik Tok salt, and there are occasional comments saying it's a terrible show because the shows showing LGBTQ+ representation? Of course this would apply to all forums except for Wiki and Tumblr)

X: This is where Astruc the creator miraculous is lurking and answering questions. Take it as a grain of salt and it can be a different experience for different people. I personally don't mind since I don't check his account.

WikiFandom: This seems out of the blue, but out of all the above posts, this is the most positive fandom. Everyone is positive, and respectable and there are only few bad apples. There is not salt from what I know of, mostly sugar. It's a small community so it was bound to be less problematic. However there isn't that much on Chloe positivity so Chloe Stans might not like it. On that note, just avoid Chloe's page it's the most toxic one by standard of it's entirety.

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Ok I'll speak for the good portion of the fandom and say that The Ruler Episode's Fight Scene is what we want for Chat Noir, everyone fails and he solos it like a bitch boss.

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Mylene; she's my favourite

That Monarchfucker

POLYMOUSE!!! MOST UNDERRATED HERO OF ALL TIME!

Not really, I don't mind them

The Ruler(Intresting by design)

Ephemeral

Aglae(So far she's interesting)

(I might get hate for this but-) Chloe

POLYMOUSE! No one's changing my mind and both seasons!

Do I have to say? Anything designed by that Cockmoth

Honestly, the goat miraculous

I would probably get the rooster miraculous

Max has separation anxiety like horses

IDK sexuality head canons? most of them don't make sense

All of season 6, and Party Crasher and Simpliman

Honestly Mega Leech (I only watch for Polymouse/Mylene)

Not now, but I'll come back to this

Polymouse>>>Multimouse

Adrien deserves better

This Show is My Entire Personality

Season 6

Both, but I would like sugar please

Miraculous Ask Game!❤️🖤

General Favourite Character?❤️🖤

General Least Favourite Character?❤️🖤

Favourite Superhero(s)?❤️🖤

Least Favourite Superhero(s)?❤️🖤

Favourite Supervillain(s)?❤️🖤

Least Favourite Supervillain(s)?❤️🖤

Favourite Civillian(s)?❤️🖤

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Character Design You Love?❤️🖤

Character Design You Hate?❤️🖤

Favourite Miraculous?❤️🖤

Miraculous You Would Get?❤️🖤

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Casual Fan or Not a Fan or This Show is My Entire Personality?❤️🖤

Best Season?❤️🖤

Salt or Sugar?❤️🖤

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As the #1 Alya Salt hater, I didn't add it yet, because if I did, this post would be 90% about it. Alya Rules!!!

Also side note: I also don't like the Chloe redemption fics involving Zoe, mainly because of her treatment I'll scroll)

Things I hate in Miraculous Fanfiction+Fandom Edition

Okay, I get, Miraculous show is a fifty-fifty for me, however Miraculous fan fictions are seventy-thirty, seventy leaning towards hate. No specific titles will be mentioned, and this is just on what I hate why I hate it.

Any Fanfiction including Nathaniel, Kagami, and Lila as the bitches.

For people who know, back then, these three were hated, and characterized to be bitches and motherfuckers for specifically on YouTube, as Kagami and Lila as bullies of Marinette and obsessive of Adrien, and Nathaniel as this some guy who only cares about Marinette "Just for her sexy body" (This is an almost direct quote, and their 14 for fucking sake) in middle of season 2 release.

The characters in this tropes make their whole personality trait being falling in love and being rude and hatable. Comparing this to the show honestly the show's characterization a lot more better only by a pinch of sugar, even Lila is not a character driven to love Adrien the most.

I don't mind people just mischaracterize or make someone an antagonist however the only apparent purpose of antagonizing these three characters are that they "Threat" the Adrinette ship. What makes it hypocritical is that Luka (A character who showed up along with being a potential love interest for Marinette like Kagami with Adrian) in this trope, he is always the "good" character because he needs to be shipped with a "redeemed" Chloe. The basic problem is that even though Luka threats the main ship, he is not really characterized to be like the description above.

2. When the Akumaclass defends Lila in the extremest way.

Like the above, I don't mind people antagonizing certain characters for certain reasons, but in some fanfics, where people would antagonize the akumaclass and characterize them as "bullies because they believe in Lila's lies" why? Like it's super out of character especially for Mylene, Rose, Ivan, Nathaniel, and Juleka. They believe in Lila's lies but don't force Marinette to do so except for Chameleon episode.

Then again them believing in Lila is not farfetched since their own lives are spectacular and pretty interesting too, comparing it to Lila they might see it as real, just more boastful that is.

Lila IS a manipulative and convincing liar, she seems to do her research and is never fully claiming things like she did in the Hero's Day part one, she even convinced us audience with her real Identity of Cerise Bianca.

So are these all an excuse for the akumaclass actions? No. Are they gullible? Yes. But are they bullies and defends Lila to the extreme? Heavens no.

3. Chloe Redemption

Now SOME BUT NOT ALL Chloe redemption fan-fictions are pretty bad, most of the ones I read too. Some variety consists of her parents suck that's why she bully, Lila is being mean to Marinette, she defends Marinette, she redeems. That's the basic idea.

I do admit I do love Chloe redemption fics when the whole purpose is to make her understand what she does is bad, realizes that she is becoming the abuser like her parents, and is willing and wanting to change, not an instant change but slow and gradual. Not for the sake of needing a new bff for Marinette or out of the blue.

This is my least complaints. I have a list as big as the "Things I Hate About The Miraculous Show Edition" So if you want that then let me know.

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Yes I'm one of those people who loved her from the beginning, justice for her!!!

Things I hate in Miraculous Fanfiction+Fandom Edition

Okay, I get, Miraculous show is a fifty-fifty for me, however Miraculous fan fictions are seventy-thirty, seventy leaning towards hate. No specific titles will be mentioned, and this is just on what I hate why I hate it.

Any Fanfiction including Nathaniel, Kagami, and Lila as the bitches.

For people who know, back then, these three were hated, and characterized to be bitches and motherfuckers for specifically on YouTube, as Kagami and Lila as bullies of Marinette and obsessive of Adrien, and Nathaniel as this some guy who only cares about Marinette "Just for her sexy body" (This is an almost direct quote, and their 14 for fucking sake) in middle of season 2 release.

The characters in this tropes make their whole personality trait being falling in love and being rude and hatable. Comparing this to the show honestly the show's characterization a lot more better only by a pinch of sugar, even Lila is not a character driven to love Adrien the most.

I don't mind people just mischaracterize or make someone an antagonist however the only apparent purpose of antagonizing these three characters are that they "Threat" the Adrinette ship. What makes it hypocritical is that Luka (A character who showed up along with being a potential love interest for Marinette like Kagami with Adrian) in this trope, he is always the "good" character because he needs to be shipped with a "redeemed" Chloe. The basic problem is that even though Luka threats the main ship, he is not really characterized to be like the description above.

2. When the Akumaclass defends Lila in the extremest way.

Like the above, I don't mind people antagonizing certain characters for certain reasons, but in some fanfics, where people would antagonize the akumaclass and characterize them as "bullies because they believe in Lila's lies" why? Like it's super out of character especially for Mylene, Rose, Ivan, Nathaniel, and Juleka. They believe in Lila's lies but don't force Marinette to do so except for Chameleon episode.

Then again them believing in Lila is not farfetched since their own lives are spectacular and pretty interesting too, comparing it to Lila they might see it as real, just more boastful that is.

Lila IS a manipulative and convincing liar, she seems to do her research and is never fully claiming things like she did in the Hero's Day part one, she even convinced us audience with her real Identity of Cerise Bianca.

So are these all an excuse for the akumaclass actions? No. Are they gullible? Yes. But are they bullies and defends Lila to the extreme? Heavens no.

3. Chloe Redemption

Now SOME BUT NOT ALL Chloe redemption fan-fictions are pretty bad, most of the ones I read too. Some variety consists of her parents suck that's why she bully, Lila is being mean to Marinette, she defends Marinette, she redeems. That's the basic idea.

I do admit I do love Chloe redemption fics when the whole purpose is to make her understand what she does is bad, realizes that she is becoming the abuser like her parents, and is willing and wanting to change, not an instant change but slow and gradual. Not for the sake of needing a new bff for Marinette or out of the blue.

This is my least complaints. I have a list as big as the "Things I Hate About The Miraculous Show Edition" So if you want that then let me know.

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Things I hate in Miraculous Fanfiction+Fandom Edition

Okay, I get, Miraculous show is a fifty-fifty for me, however Miraculous fan fictions are seventy-thirty, seventy leaning towards hate. No specific titles will be mentioned, and this is just on what I hate why I hate it.

Any Fanfiction including Nathaniel, Kagami, and Lila as the bitches.

For people who know, back then, these three were hated, and characterized to be bitches and motherfuckers for specifically on YouTube, as Kagami and Lila as bullies of Marinette and obsessive of Adrien, and Nathaniel as this some guy who only cares about Marinette "Just for her sexy body" (This is an almost direct quote, and their 14 for fucking sake) in middle of season 2 release.

The characters in this tropes make their whole personality trait being falling in love and being rude and hatable. Comparing this to the show honestly the show's characterization a lot more better only by a pinch of sugar, even Lila is not a character driven to love Adrien the most.

I don't mind people just mischaracterize or make someone an antagonist however the only apparent purpose of antagonizing these three characters are that they "Threat" the Adrinette ship. What makes it hypocritical is that Luka (A character who showed up along with being a potential love interest for Marinette like Kagami with Adrian) in this trope, he is always the "good" character because he needs to be shipped with a "redeemed" Chloe. The basic problem is that even though Luka threats the main ship, he is not really characterized to be like the description above.

2. When the Akumaclass defends Lila in the extremest way.

Like the above, I don't mind people antagonizing certain characters for certain reasons, but in some fanfics, where people would antagonize the akumaclass and characterize them as "bullies because they believe in Lila's lies" why? Like it's super out of character especially for Mylene, Rose, Ivan, Nathaniel, and Juleka. They believe in Lila's lies but don't force Marinette to do so except for Chameleon episode.

Then again them believing in Lila is not farfetched since their own lives are spectacular and pretty interesting too, comparing it to Lila they might see it as real, just more boastful that is.

Lila IS a manipulative and convincing liar, she seems to do her research and is never fully claiming things like she did in the Hero's Day part one, she even convinced us audience with her real Identity of Cerise Bianca.

So are these all an excuse for the akumaclass actions? No. Are they gullible? Yes. But are they bullies and defends Lila to the extreme? Heavens no.

3. Chloe Redemption

Now SOME BUT NOT ALL Chloe redemption fan-fictions are pretty bad, most of the ones I read too. Some variety consists of her parents suck that's why she bully, Lila is being mean to Marinette, she defends Marinette, she redeems. That's the basic idea.

I do admit I do love Chloe redemption fics when the whole purpose is to make her understand what she does is bad, realizes that she is becoming the abuser like her parents, and is willing and wanting to change, not an instant change but slow and gradual. Not for the sake of needing a new bff for Marinette or out of the blue.

This is my least complaints. I have a list as big as the "Things I Hate About The Miraculous Show Edition" So if you want that then let me know.

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"I don't fucking care, I'm INFJ I have deep thoughts with it."-Me, to anyone who's willing to argue

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Some Miraculous Watchers-"Ugh I hate Zoe, she's just here to replace Chloe." Me With My Bigass Opinion-"Nah, Zoe is too kind to replace Chloe and her mean girl role." A literal thing I said to a friend who is also a Zoe Stan and have seen this comment in fandoms multiple times.

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