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TrWater and corrupted trBBH transcript of their first conversation

VOD ID Bad's stream : 2494975965

"The Realm SMP - Day 201 - Answers and Questions"

Time stamp : 00:40:26 - 1:38:51

B = trBadboyhalo

W = trWaterMunch

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W: Hi Bad! Oh I fell into water, oopsie.

B: You need to be careful.

W: .....Sit down.

B: Hello.

W: Sit down with me. Right now. You're sitting down.

B: But then I can't fish.

W: Good. Sit down. Look at me. Sit down right in front of me actually. Right there. Sit down.

B: Hello.

W: All right, look into my eyes. What is going on?

B: What is what going on?

W: What is- what is happening?

B: I'm fishing.

W: Yep and why do you sound like that?

B: Like what?

W: Like you...aren't yourself. What's happened? Talk to me.

B: I can sound more like myself if you want.

W: Go ahead.

B: Hi, Water. How are you doing today?

W: Nope. Awful. Horrific. What's wrong? What's happened?

B: I'm not catching a lot of fish.

W: Is that making you depressed?

B: No.

W: So why do you sound like that? What's happened? Speak to me.

B: Nothing's happened.

W: That's obviously not true. Unless the absence of things happening is a problem. Is that why?

B: No, it's not.

W: Is it Foolish? Do you miss foolish?

B: Foolish? No, I don't miss Foolish.

W: How do you feel?- OK, how do you feel about foolish?

B: How should I feel about him?

W: I've- that's not- you feel however you feel. How do you feel about Foolish?

B: He's Foolish.

W: Would indifference ambivalence be a- an apt term?

B: Does he like to fish?

W: I don't really know. To be honest, I don't know him very well.

B: Oh, he probably likes to fish.

W: Do you not know him very well?

B: I know him. We've known each other a long time.

W: Have you seen him fish before?

B: Yes.

W: Has he been happy to be fishing?

B: He seemed happy.

W: Ok, so you know what seeming happy is like. Do you understand that you-you don't seem happy?

B: Does that bother you?

W: Does it bother me that my friend seems unhappy? Is that what you're asking?

B: Yes.

W: Yeah, a bit.

B: Do you need a hug?

W: No. Do you?

B: I will accept one hug.

W: That wasn't my question. Would you like a hug?

B: Yes.

W: Ok.

B: There, there. It's going to be ok.

W: That's- Ok. That's not. So. So what you're doing there is you're comforting me. I don't- I'm- I'm not upset. I'm concerned.

B: Oh, why?

W: Because you seem unwell.

B: Oh, is something else unwell?

W: Are you unwell? No.

B: Ok.

W: No. That's all that's on my mind currently. Are you unwell?

B: I'm fine. Look at me.

W: I don't think it's- I don't think what's wrong with you is- is a physical ailment. I don't think looking at you is going to make me less worried. I think talking to you and understanding how you're feeling.

B: Why?

W: Because I'm concerned that my friend is not feeling happy.

B: Is feeling happy important?

W: Yes.

B: I feel happy. I feel very happy.

W: Are you saying that because it's important to me?

B: Yes.

W: And what is the truth? If I tell you that the truth is more important to me than your happiness, can you tell me the truth?

B: I feel very happy.

W: Is that the truth?

B: Yes.

W: Ok, once upon a time we- we used a series of conversations for me to understand who you are and the way- I don't know if you remember it. Do you remember it? Would you like to explain? Do you remember?

B: Yes, I remember.

W: Yeah, ok, for any pearls and all voices just in the ether, Bad and I have a routine of doing things where I will ask him questions and he does not have to say yes, but he does have to say no to things that aren't true. So we have a way of figuring out what is true by his absence of speech. And then things that aren't true, we know because he says they aren't true. Would you be ok with trying that with me today?

B: Is this a game?

W: Kind of. Do you like games?

B: Games are ok.

W: Yeah. Ok, so let's start from the beginning. You have changed in some way.

B: Have I?

W: No. The way that we do this is I say statements and you say no if they're untrue and you don't say anything if they're true.

B: Oh, ok.

W: Ok, you have changed in some way. Ok, you have changed emotionally. Ok, your name is BadBoyHalo.

B: Yes. Hello, Water.

W: Ok, so you're not. Ok, so this isn't- right. Um your name- Hm...So we're not- This isn't how it usually goes.

B: Is it?

W: No, I'm concerned.

B: Why?

W: And I want to understand because I think something is wrong and I want to-

B: What do you think is wrong?

W: I think you have forgotten things.

B: No, I remember.

W: OK, so how does the game go that we play?

B: You ask a question and I answer.

W: Nope. That is not ever how the game has gone. Nope.

B: Do you not want answers to your questions?

W: I absolutely do want answers to my questions, but there are specific ways that you answer my questions. And sometimes the absence of an answer is an answer in and of itself.

B: Oh.

W: And you would know that if you hadn't forgotten.

B: What's your question?

W: The overarching question is what's happened to you. But I don't think you have the time nor the space to tell me the truth on that.

B: I was fishing. I talked to Pangi. I talked to Lukey.

W: Before that.

B: I talked to Aimsey.

W: Before that.

B: I talked to Pili. Pili gave me his arm.

W: Why?

B: For a snack.

W: Is Pili's arm okay?

B: Yeah, it was pretty tasty.

W: I don't know Pili that well. I don't know Pili well at all. I think we've seen each other maybe twice.

B: Pili is purple.

W: Now, there are only two things in this world that I know are purple, and it's Roscumber and something a lot more intimidating and malicious. I'd say malicious. I don't think its an entity. I don't think it has sentience. I don't know. But-

B: You mean Pili?

W: Well, no, I don't know Pili.

B: Oh. You know the purple cat?

W: Not really.

B: Then you probably don't know Pili.

W: That's what I was telling you. I'm going to ask this and you don't have to say yes, but you do have to say no if it isn't true. Ok?

B: Ok.

W: So I'm going to, I'm going to say a statement and you are going to say no if it is false.

B: Ok.

W: You. Have corruption inside of you.

B: What is corruption?

W: Some sort of purple entity. I'm not 100% sure.

B: You're not sure?

W: No. But I know it's-

B: How can you know if you're not sure?

W: Well, because you've been here a lot longer than I have, and you know about the corruption. You've known about the corruption for a while, right?

B: Yes.

W: Everyone who's been here longer than I have knows. So you know what the corruption is. You know whether it's in you or not.

B: Yes.

W: Is it in you?

B: Was it on Pili's arm?

W: Great question, was it?

B: I think so.

W: So you think it's inside of you now?

B: I think it was on Pili's arm.

W: Do you think you ate some of that?

B: Yeah.

W: Now, you're obfuscating and dancing around the concept of it being in you. Is it because you don't think it is in you, or is it because you aren't sure.

B: Would it matter?

W: Yeah, I- truth matters to me more than anything, I've already explained that to you today.

B: Oh. What do you think that corruption is, Water?

W: I don't know. All I know is that it's purple and it makes people forget stuff. That's really all I know about it.

B: I don't think it always does.

W: It seems to have now.

B: Maybe.

W: Do you think you're corrupted?

B: No.

W: Do you think you're not corrupted because you aren't mortal?

B: I don't understand what we mean by corruption.

W: I don't understand why you don't understand. You've seen it, right? The purple like spreading-

B: Why do you call it that?

W: I don't know. That's just what people call it. That's just the name for it. Do you want to call it something else? We can call it Steve.

B: Steve.

W: Yeah. Do you- Do you think you've got Steve inside you?

B: Steve is a silly name.

W: It is. And if we make it silly, maybe it's a little less scary to think about.

B: Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha ha ha. That was a good one.

W: Thanks. Do you want to call it Steve from now on or no?

B: Steve.

W: Steve.

B: Steve.

W: Steve.

B: Why do we call it Steve?

W: Fun name. Make people laugh.

B: Should we laugh?

W: I don't think we should do anything. I don't think there's any moral importance. I don't think there's any moral value based on how we react to things, right?

B: Is there?

W: I don't think so. Laughing doesn't harm anyone. Neither is crying. Maybe there's talking like a chat bot, I guess.

B: Why do you think Pili got corrupted?

W: I don't know. I don't know Pili, so I don't know really any of that story. Do you know any of it?

B: Yeah.

W: Can you explain it to me? Please?

B: Sure.

W: Thank you.

B: Pili died. Pili came back. Pili didn't remember. Pili was different. And then-

W: And that was the corruption or-

B: Now Pili is corrupted, but they keep calling the corruption a bad thing, but they're not-

W: Pili does?

B: No. Pangi, Lukey, Aimsey. But they don't want to cure Pili.

W: Why?

B: I don't know. Because they are uncertain.

W: They don't believe- They're not certain of their own theory?

B: They lack resolve.

W: Oh, I see...I see. It's very difficult.

B: It is.

W: Do we know the cure then?

B: Yes. They cured Pangi.

W: Would you take it?

B: Why would I? Look at me. Well, if you I'm fine.

W: Is fine good enough? Are you contented with fine? Is fine ok?

B: I feel happy.

W: I don't think that's true.

B: Why?

W: You don't like fishing alone.

B: I don't? Why would I do it?

W: Because I don't think you're yourself. And if you're not yourself, happiness is-is like none of it's real. If you aren't you and you're happy, then you're a different. Like that's a different person's happiness. That's not your happiness.

B: What does it mean to be you?

W: Well, that's it's a wonderful question. I think that's a very philosophical question that I don't know if I'm really in charge of the answers for, but I guess I'm me and I was me when I was in a dragon's body and I think the body is secondary to the soul.

B: So if the soul is the same, are you any different?

W: I'm slightly different, but only really in terms of the changes that I've been through. I still enjoy the same things. I don't get to partake in the same things, but I still enjoy the same things. I still laugh at the same things. I still hate the same things.

B: If your interests change, does that make you a different person?

W: I think if they change all at once...and also all of your mannerisms change at the same time, yes.

B: Is that bad?

W: I don't think it's bad, per se. I just don't think it's you. And if you aren't you, then you shouldn't be in your body.

B: Why?

W: Your body is made for my friend, BadBoyHalo, not whatever-

B: I'm BadBoyHalo. Look.

W: No. There are many things you can do to me, Bad. You can- you can say horrible things to me. You can tell me that other people are your favorite. But. But what you cannot do is lie directly to my face.

B: I'm not.

W: You are. You are not the man I knew.

B: If we change, are we different?

W: If you change overnight because of something that you took, yes.

B: Oh.

W: You don't remember Foolish very well. You don't remember me very well. You don't remember anything very well. You are fine and you are contented to be fine.

B: Yes, I am fine. You want the fish?

W: No.

B: Oh.

W: Neither do you. You would prefer to blow things up.

B: Why would I do that?

W: Ok, so what's the cure?

B: Pangi has it.

W: Ok, and Pangi doesn't have the resolve to give it to you.

B: I guess he could but why would he?

W: Does Pangi know that you're corrupted?

B: I don't think I'm corrupted.

W: Well, you're wrong. Sorry. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but you are wrong.

B: If you say so.

W: If you're not corrupted, take the cure.

B: Ok.

W: It wouldn't do anything to you, right?

B: I don't think so.

W: Why don't you ask Pangi for the cure?

B: Why would I if it wouldn't do anything?

W: I guess you're right. If I ask Pangi for the cure, will you take it? Just to prove a hypothesis or disprove.

B: Sure. Will he make Pili take the cure?

W: I don't think he will, no. But you're consenting. Well, what you've just done is consent. Pili doesn't seem to want to consent.

B: So if I said no.

W: I would force it down your throat.

B: I see. Unfortunate.

W: How so?

B: I wish Pili had friends like this.

W: You want Pili to be cured?

B: Does Pili need to be cured?

W: I mean, I would say so if this is what it's done to Pili, yes.

B: You should talk to Pili.

W: I don't know Pili very well. You can get me in touch with Pili if you want.

B: Ok. Pili and I spent a lot of time together. We made a lot of memories.

W: Like getting corrupted together?

B: No. Pili was corrupted a long time ago.

W: So you'll take the cure then, yeah?

B: Why would I?

W: Because you said you would.

B: Minds change, Water.

W: Are there any other ways to cure corruption?

B: Maybe.

W: Do you know of any?

B: One.

W: Yeah. Which is?

B: Why would I tell you?

W: Just for fun.

B: I think I'm having fun fishing.

W: Yeah?

B: You should join me.

W: I will if you tell me the other cure.

B: I wonder if Pili knows.

W: Maybe. I know you know.

B: You should ask him.

W: Pili is not here right now. You are. I'll fish with you.

B: Let's fish.

W: If you tell me.

B: Oh.

*50 seconds of silence*

W: I miss my friend.

B: He's right here.

W: No, he isn't. He's gone. Somewhere. And the thing that's standing in front of me won't tell me how to bring him back.

B: ........He's already back.

W: No, he's not. And the thing that's standing in front of me is TAUNTING me! .......................Bring him back.......please...

B: I'm right here.

W: And who are you? Really? Tell me about yourself. Tell me all about yourself. Tell me everything. From the beginning.

B: I'm me.

W: That's not...Tell me your life story. Tell me about yourself.

B: Where should I begin?

W: The beginning. Where do you come from?

B: That's a long story.

W: Where do you come from?

B: Not here.

W: Same. How far away?

B: A long time ago.

W: Different realm?

B: You could call it that.

W: Do you have any family? Parents? Brothers? Sisters?

B: Yes.

W: What are their names?

B: *Bad looks up at the sky* Do you want to fish with me?

W: That's a crazy name. How many brothers do you have? How many sisters?

B: Too many.

W: Do you have a mum and a dad? Do you have one? Do you have neither? Do you have multiple sets?

B: What makes someone a mom or a dad?

W: Usually birth, but sometimes it's not to do with that, sometimes it's just raising a child.

B: *Bad looking at the burning phantoms in the sky* Why do they do that?

W: What, burn?

B: No.

W: Fly?

B: Why do they exist?

W: Why does anything exist?

B: That's a good question.

W: But they exist to die. So does everyone. So does everything. The entire world is built to die. Everything has a timer on it. Apart from you, I guess.

B: Do you think people would exist? Choose to, if they could.

W: Do you think they would they would choose to exist if they had the choice?

B: Yeah.

W: I think some would. I think most would. I think life is worth living. Do you?

B: Yes. I do.

W: Um, right. So there's something...wrong with you, there's something rotten in you and what do you want me to do? You don't want me to cure you but also you might-

B: I cooked Pili's arm...to 135 degrees Fahrenheit. Internal temperature.

W: Does that burn away corruption? Is it like mold?

B: Medium rare.

W: So there's still something rotten inside of you, and that rotten thing is rotting you from the inside out, and you expect me to stand around and watch it happen?

B: Why is it rotten? Because it's different?

W: No, not because it's different, because YOU are gone! You are lost to this world, and the longer it will go on, the longer you will become lost, the more you will become lost, and the less I will have of my friend, my treasure.

B: Is difference bad?

W: Losing something is bad. And because you are different, because you are replacing the person that I knew, because you are different to the person that I knew, I have lost the person that I knew, and that is bad. The consequences of the difference are the things that are bad. If I could take this this thing out of you and put it into something else that didn't have a consciousness, I would do that. But I can't, and therefore I must kill this. Whatever this is that's inhabiting you, I must kill it, so I can get my friend back, because I have lost my friend, and I will not lose my friend. The first friend I ever made, and you expect me to stand by and watch him rot.

B: Does my life not matter, then?

W: It does, but it does not matter to me.

B: Oh, I see.

W: I do not know you. People die every day. If I could put you into, I don't know, a sheep or whatever, I would and I would let you live another life alongside my friend. But my friend needs to live too.

B: I do.

W: And my friend is what matters to me.

B: Does that bother you?

W: That my friend isn't here? Yes.

B: Do you need a hug?

W: Shut up. No. Not at all. Not even a little bit. Did you know that my friend, Badboyhalo, didn't hug me? Even at the end of a date, he didn't hug me. He high-fived me.

B: Do you not like high-fives?

W: They're fine. But he didn't hug me. He never hugged me. We never hugged in our entire friendship.

B: Oh.

W: You are not him. Concede that, at least.

B: Why am I not him?

W: I'm-

B: Because I'm different.

W: Yes! Because you've taken who he was and you've changed every single aspect of who he was, apart from his physical appearance.

B: So if I change, I'm not the same?

W: If you change every single aspect of yourself, absolutely yes, you are not. If you decided one day that oh, I don't actually like muffins, I like bagels. Hey, that's fine. But if you decide I'm actually not this person and I am a completely different person and the person that I was does not exist anymore. Abso-bleeding-lutely, you are not yourself. You are different. You are not the person that I fell in love with.

B: Oh. Ok.......Do you need a hug?

W: No.

B: Ok.

W: So you're corrupted?

B: No.

W: Yes. And Pili is also corrupted, and Pangi has the cure. And nobody has the- What did you say?

B: I don't see myself as corruption.

W: That's fine, what do you see yourself as? BadBoyHalo?

B: I am Bad.

W: What do you see yourself as? Like, actually, on the inside?

B: I am me.

W: Who is me?

B: What I am.

W: Have you...have you always been...you?

B: I have always been me.

W: Have you always inhabited this body?

B: Which me are you asking?

W: The you that's talking.

B: I am me.

W: Have you always inhabited this body?

B: I have always been here.

W: In the body or in the Realm?

B: Is there a difference?

W: Yes.

B: Why?

W: Well, either you truly do believe you're Bad, or you are an entity aside from Bad, who is now inhabiting his body which is also okay I just need to get to the bottom of this so I can figure out how to fix it. I want my friend to be alive. If you really want to be alive that bad I'll figure out a way to get you to be alive as well. Somewhere else in a different body.

B: Do I not have the right to live?

W: You absolutely do but not in my friend's body. Doesn't my friend have the right to live?

B: Though just not in the way that I choose.

W: Did he consent?

B: Does it matter?

W: Yes. He also has the right to life. Unless he signed over his right to life, to you.

B: Your choices matter than mine.

W: In this situation, absolutely. You've taken away someone's rights. I'm attempting to allow two people's rights or- I say people, I don't really know what you are because you haven't told me yet. Um, but two entities' rights to coexist. I'm trying to find you a way to live, but you are not cooperating. If you do not cooperate, I will not abide by whatever rules you're setting in place. I'm happy to be a villain, I'm happy to kill you off. If you won't cooperate, I will just kill you. I don't care. I want my friend back, and I will do absolutely anything on this godforsaken Earth to make that happen. So you tell me who you are, you tell me where you come from, and you tell me how to fix this.

B: I see. Interesting.

W: What are you? Who are you? How do I refer to you? Let's start there. When I'm talking about you, the thing that's inhabiting Bad's body, not Bad himself, what do you want me to call you?

B: I am Bad.

W: I can't- I can't call you both Bad, I will get confused.

B: Oh. You have a different resolve.

W: Yeah.

B: Who are you?

W: I'm Water. Hello, nice to meet you.

B: Hello.

W: Who are you? You don't have to give me your actual name you can give me an alias whatever you would prefer but I need a way to compartmentalize the two of you, you see?

B: You want me to call you something...other than what you are.

W: No, I want to call you something. No. No, because I, every part of me, every molecule of my being, is me. I am Water. The inside and the outside.

B: Why are you, you and I am not me?

W: Because there was a different inside to you a month ago.

B: But it changed.

W: It changed.

B: Can you change?

W: Not as quickly as that, no. And no one can. Especially not you, a guy who's been alive for SO long.

B: But what if I do? Why does that not make me, me?

W: You just aren't, and you know you aren't. You're playing. You're playing with me, you're toying with me, you're taunting me, you're mocking me right now. And that's infuriating, you must understand.

B: Am I?

W: Yes. Stop asking me stupid questions!

B: Why?

W: Answer one! How about we play- How about we play a questions game? How about we play- You like games, right? Do you like games? You said games are ok, right?

B: Games are...ok...

W: Ok, you wanna play a game?

B: Yes.

W: Ok, you ask me a question, I'll answer with a true statement.

B: Ok.

W: I then get to ask you a question, and you answer that with a true statement. And it has to be the answer to the question. Do you understand?

B: I guess.

W: Okay, do you want to go first?

B: What are you?

W: I am the consciousness of a dragon inside of a human body. Okay, my question. What are you?

B: I am that which you call the Corruption, but I am also that which you call Bad. I am me.

W: Okay, do you want to go?

B: Why does it matter to you what I am or who I am?

W: Because if I know what you are, I can research. I can find a way to let you coexist without one part overshadowing or taking over the other.

B: Why? Why can't-

W: That is not your turn. That is not your turn. It's my turn now.

B: Oh. Ok.

W: Ok. I need to think. I need to think. Are you intentionally taking Bad's personality?

B: What do you mean?

W: That's not a statement, but I'll- I'll elaborate. Are you intentionally changing who Bad is.

B: I do not change.

W: Can you elaborate, please?

B: I cannot change, not what is real.

W: Ok, continue. Your go.

B: It's my question.

W: Yeah.

B: Why do you not like change?

W: It's a very, very, very hard question to answer, but I will try. Hmm... How do I explain this all? I don't know if you remember, so I'll sort of talk you through it as much as I can from the beginning. I came here very confused. I'd only been in a human body for a small amount of time and this guy, BadBoyHalo, you'll come to find, took me pretty much under his wing and taught me basically everything I know about this realm, about what I can do with this body. I had no idea how to use a human body really, I'd only really just learned to walk. He taught me everything and we had fun. I fell in love for a short amount of time and he was the first person to look upon who I am truly, kindly and with understanding and love and if I lose him or if I have lost him I have lost the origins of myself. Ok. My go. Pangi has one cure to the corruption and you mentioned another. What is the other cure?

B: .....................I don't have the answer to that question.

W: You said you knew. Did you lie?

B: No.

W: Okay, I had two questions, so you can have two.

B: What does it mean to be cured?

W: To be cured is to be yourself again. As you are aware, because you just told me, you are both the corruption and Bad. And two consciousnesses cohabiting and co-piloting a body is too many. One body is made for one person. One body is made for one consciousness and so to be cured is to have one consciousness for one body instead of two. Now I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that you're probably wondering. I don't know the corruption. I don't know you and you unfortunately are not exactly forthwith with the answers as to who you are, what you're about, whether you're, you know, malicious, whether you want to kill Bad, whether you want to kill everyone, I don't know. I don't know you, I don't know how to fix this to a point where you can both happily live. And because I don't know you, you matter less. You have less of a priority in my mind than Bad does. And so, I will try as best I can to keep you, you know safe and alive and happy but the first person, the first thing that matters to me, the first entity, the first consciousness that matters to me is Bad. And if you have to die to get bad back, then I will do that. Okay, you have another question.

B: Why?

W: Why what?

B: Why is it okay to kill me?

W: Because I don't know you. I don't- I have no reason to care for you do I? Your life means absolutely nothing to me.

B: Couldn't I say the same about all of you?

W: Yeah, sure, absolutely. I don't understand why you haven't killed us all. But it seems like, because you're not answering any of my questions, and you seem to be mocking me and taunting me by asking me questions, in answer to my questions, it seems very much like you are malicious and you're taking one by one each person. Pili is corrupted, Bad was sad and lonely and missed Foolish and obviously felt some comfort in Pili's attention and counsel and Pili offered an arm and Bad took it because Bad has a history with substance abuse. Bad has a history with leaning on things to make him better you are just another thing that he took to make him better and you took advantage of that. I don't think you're not trying to kill us, I just think you're playing the long game because it's fun.

B: I see. It's your question.

W: It is. Where do you come from? Like, actually, where do you come from? Do you come from the Null? Do you come from here? Do you come from everywhere? Where do you come from?

B: .............Different question.

W: You don't get to choose my questions.

B: ..........

W: And the game is over?

B: ........................I've always been here.

W: Where?

B: Yes.

W: Right, well I have an appointment to get to.

B: Yes, it's almost time.

W: For?

B: Yes.

W: What's it time for?