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I think Life really hammers home how arguing about whether or not she killed anything or whether she's guilty is missing the point, which is that Yuno herself is now grieving. she feels like she killed her baby, and at the time she was numb and felt nothing about it, but the fact she didn't feel upset at the time is only making her feel more pain now. she was shocked and terrified then survived an accident she didn't really want to survive and now people are still debating whether she was in the right or not when what's really important is how Yuno has been hiding herself so long and is just seeking someone to listen and validate that she does feel sad, lonely and guilty and not the cheerful facade she puts on to others or the cold heartless facade she puts on to herself. like yeah I'm in the vast majority that think she's totally innocent, but that does nothing to actually help Yuno. it's not the point. it highlights just another way Milgram as a system fails

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life mv today yay

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yuno things bc it looks like she will be very interesting this trial...u have intrigued me miss kashiki

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do fic readers know that their comments actually influence the course of the story sometimes? i don't mean in a "you need to write it this way because i say so 😡" type of comment, i mean when people are asking questions or really engaging with the plot and the themes in the comments they sometimes bring up things that i didn't even think of, or dig into parts of the story that i've overlooked, or get really interested/fixated on something i was going to just kind of glance over--and it has me going 'oh wait that's actually really interesting, that's a good point' and fully adding or tweaking or changing things about the story going forward. i'm literally adding an entire additional chapter to something right now because someone's comment had me like "oh i didn't dig into that as much as i could have." you have impact!

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WOAH it’s been about FOUR MONTHS but! Finally, chapter 9 of my fic “a moment before” is complete!! Wooo!

https://archiveofourown.org/works/55189894/chapters/170747230#comments

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conversations

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milgram t3 fun times 😊

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been oddly kazuipilled lately. maybe bc its pride month...hm...hmmm

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i haven’t finished a drawing in a while

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YELLING

For all 3 of my milgram and severance fans

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….. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀😀

haruka oh my god </3

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absolutely op

i honestly think any outcome would’ve been really interesting to see—and even an all inno round 1/2 could have some really interestingly twisted results

despite the angst im having a real fun time!!

not-so-brief thoughts on trial 3

[this is directly crossposted from a youtube comment i wrote on the trial 3 primer.]

let the story happen.

i assure you that pointing fingers and getting mad over t2 inno amane will not help ANYONE and is an overall unhealthy, toxic hill to die on in terms of plot progression discussions. jackalope seeds a lot of doubt but i don't doubt that he was right that kotoko attacking in the t1~t2 was the big turning point.

if we used network theory a lot of negative outcomes/domino effects that happened in t2 and t3 can be averted simply by having kotoko voted t1 guilty. would disaster have struck? ab-so-lutely, haruka would still have been deranged and amane would've been high-risk - and you all would've still been pointing fingers about bad things happening.

so just vote with your hearts, campaign for verdicts as you please - but let the story happen without getting so heated.

remember that milgram is still a media project, a work of fiction, and you should always take a step back if you get so mad over an anime child killing your waifu.

milgram is a social experiment, not an arg where there's a singular "correct" answer. i need to recheck but if i remember right yamanaka does have a background in psychology.

i don't think any of the events that occurred so far are "punishments" for "wrong votes" so much as interconnected cause and effect. they happen because conditions permit it.

as someone with a background in ecology, network theory explains a LOT about the prison's environment. the prison is dehumanizing and the prisoners have issues, which leads to so-and-so, so if something changes (the verdicts) it can lead to intense cascades.

a lot of people who engage with milgram make the mistake of dehumanizing the prisoners and then think they're doing them a favor - lots of "demon amane" arguments for example flatten shidou into being "the doctor" to guilt people who voted her inno, when he's got his own platter of messed-up inclinations. i don't doubt that with a different combination of verdicts we could've gotten a route where shidou becomes the main threat of the prison, and that applies to EVERYONE save for maybe yuno, kazui and to a certain extent muu.

it's honestly a weird WEIRD combo of fandom misogyny, fandoms increasingly not knowing how to interact with child characters, and people feeling weirdly possessive over a work of fiction someone else wrote.

this got long but i could definitely write an academic paper on the phenomena. alas i'm an ecologist not a psychologist

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the whole premise is rigged flawed unfair but also so so juicy and interesting!! good story but not good for the characters!!

Milgram could never have had a good ending.

Voting innocent doesn't help ease the guilt that the prisoners feel. Yuno and Kazui haven't stopped seeing themselves as murderers despite them both getting innocent verdicts each trial and their "crimes" being considered some of the tamest by the fandom. Innocent verdicts can fuck up a prisoner just as much as guilty verdicts. Kotoko decided that her innocent verdict allowed her to hurt others, while Haruka and Muu began to think their verdict made their murders completely justified.

Voting guilty doesn't make the prisoners realize their mistakes, it makes them miserable and scared, and often just causes them to resent Es. The best example of that was amane in trial 1, who started clinging to her religion even more than before her verdict. I think this is happening with Muu too. She doesn't want to become a better person after what happens to her, she calls Es a bully just like her classmates and only sinks deeper into despair.

Because systems like milgram, those that torture people and expect them to become better, are inherently corrupt. Taking part in them doesn't make anything better. The only way we could've gotten a good ending would have been if no one voted, which is impossible considering milgram's popularity.

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NOOOOOO….NOOOO

happy valentine's day!! haha I'm gonna cry

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graduation

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Crying in the club

Platonic 03+08… save me platonic 03+08…

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https://archiveofourown.org/works/55189894/chapters/160586143

At long last.. chapter 8 of a moment before is up!! wahoo!!