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Nothing hits like "romantic couple and a third guy who's not dating either of them but is definitely a part of this dynamic"

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hey thanks for calling me your "loyal knight" now i'm horny enough to win any battle

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yayy bedtime!! *curls up in my blankies and thinks about my faves being tortured* ^_^

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Everybody: *having gay sex*

Ava:

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I'll start. It was Bad Buddy AND Not Me. Couldn't get past ep 1 for either. I know, I know, now I gotta be hunted for sport.

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Just to be extra clear re: that awkward conservative ask I got

I found Ramil and Paytai's NC scene this episode to be amazingly done. Everything about it was so emotional. The exchange of power, the trust, the enthusiasm were all there.

We also got to see Ramil's trauma manifest in a way that wasn't malicious or self-absorbed, which was an amazing glimpes into who he is at his core.

And it's really clear to me that when some of you say "pornographic" what you really mean is "authentic". But you don't want to face the reality that these characters are complex human beings engaged in complex sexual and romantic relationships.

And I want to emphasise that finding this particular scene pornographic and enjoying it on that basis is not wrong. But I personally feel there's a small difference between fictional depictions of sex and pornography.

Pornography is performative sex recorded for the purpose of entertaining an audience.

NC scenes are an intimate performance depicting non-performative sex between two or more characters.

The end result and intention behind these two forms of media is starkly different, but they do employ many of the same tools snd often require some of the same safety precuations.

Both are good and important to culture and society in their own individual way. But they are still different. And conflating them in order to insult one by putting down the other, in this specific context, is just outright homophobia.

And I'm more than a little sick and tired of seeing homophobic people trying to act like authorities on matters of queer intimacy in film.

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I am simply curious.

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Calvin cannot catch a break.

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THE devotionshipping trope is "are they loyal to me or to my title" and the answer HAS to be that they genuinely don't differentiate between the two and are confused and slightly alarmed by the question

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Same.

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Charan's fighting for his life here.

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Prince Khanin's stunning wardrobe. THE NEXT PRINCE (2025)

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why he look like a Cullen in the Emmett eggs Cafeteria Scene

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Khanin: I don't know these people. You're the only person I know in this whole country. I asked you politely to hang out and you ignored me. Now that I'm officially a royal, you have forced me into my truest form; the ultimate brat.

Charan: Dear God, save me.

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Charan was telling himself to breathe. He was having sex for the first time in his life, he was trying not to finish in two minutes.

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who else is hooked in this precious wattpad BL? no one? just me?

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As if the BL industry news of the past few days weren't bleak enough already... it's now come to light that not only were the actors from the recently aired BL Eye Contact paid very (very!) little, they also weren't paid at all for promo appearances and commissions -- and that although their management received a fixed (and much higher) amount of money as their intended actor's fee. The actors in question (Bank Toranin, New Chunnawan, Jame Supawit and Thap Tepphong) have since hired a laywer and are seeking to terminate their contracts with their current management.

I already knew that actors in Thai BL dramas were paid very little but this is positively exploitative -- especially since none of them were ever paid for promotional events which should actually make them the most money. And again I'm reminded of when Yoon Phusanu experienced a very similar situation with his former management and urged his fellow actors to always stay on top of their contracts and advocate for themselves.*

*And apparently none of the actors mentioned here were ever actually given copies of their contracts. What the fuck.

The unfortunate reality is that lots of fans don't really care if the people behind their favourite show/movie/game/group are treated well as long as they get some good entertainment out of it (often stating that the show etc already exists so there's no harm in watching because it "honours" the actors' work etc - yeah no that's not how it works) . This is why it's so important to shine a light on things like this and showcase it so openly -- very public press conference and photo shoot with your lawyer included. I really hope that Bank and the others will at least get released from their contracts. As for Eye Contact? Yeah, fuck that show. I'm glad I never found the time to finish watching.

I'll put the machine-translated article from the Daily News detailing what's happened, the amount of money that was apparently embezzled and the ongoing legal proceedings behind a cut. Happy raging reading:

4 BL Drama Actors Appeal for Fairness: Claim Agency Deducted Their Pay and Sent Them to Events for Free

Four young male actors from a Boyslove (BL) drama have appealed for justice through lawyer Ronnarong Kaewphet, stating they want to terminate their contracts with their management company. They allege that their fees were deducted without notice, and they were made to attend numerous events without being paid or reimbursed for expenses.

On June 22, at the Office of the Ronnarong Foundation for Justice Restoration in Society, located on Chaeng Watthana Road in Nonthaburi Province, four actors—Mr. Toranin Manosukprasert (nickname: Bank, age 26), Mr. Thap Thepphong (nickname: Tup, age 23), Mr. Chunnawan Mandee (nickname: New, age 22), and Mr. Supawit Wongfz (nickname: Jame, age 21)—stars of the BL drama "เพียงสบตา" (Eye Contact) airing on Channel 25 (GMM Grammy), met with lawyer Ronnarong to discuss legal issues, claiming that they were treated unfairly by their agency.

Bank stated that he played the lead role in the series alongside his three friends and more than ten additional young actors, including high school students. They were paid per episode, totaling 90,000 baht (~€2,300). After tax deductions, he received about 80,000 baht (~€2,050), which was paid. However, after the drama ended, the company sent him to dozens of promotional events without providing any compensation or covering his expenses. He also helped the company sell thousands of books but did not receive the agreed-upon commission.

Bank further revealed that while he personally received 90,000 baht, he later learned that the company had actually been given 150,000 baht (~€3,850) per actor by upper management as their acting fee. This discrepancy, which was not disclosed to them, made him feel taken advantage of. All four actors had signed a 1 year and 6 months contract with the company. They are now seeking legal help to determine whether the contract can be terminated.

Tup added that he received only 20,000 baht (~€515) for his role. He is less concerned about the amount but questions why the company failed to pay or support them during the many events they were asked to attend. He also feels exploited and is asking lawyer Ronnarong to help them terminate their contract.

Jame said he was paid 18,000 baht (~€465), which he felt was extremely low, considering the company reportedly received 150,000 baht (~€3,850) per actor. When they tried to ask about it, the company refused and claimed the money had gone to various expenses and taxes.

New said he was promised 70,000 baht (~€1,800) but was only paid 20,000 baht (~€515). When he followed up, he too was denied the remaining amount. Upon learning that the company received 150,000 baht (~€3,850) each for the four of them and six other junior actors—totaling 1.5 million baht (~€38,500)—he felt even more wronged. However, he clarified that they are not seeking the unpaid portion, only legal help to cancel the remaining contract and be free from the company.

Lawyer Ronnarong stated he will take the case to the Minister of Justice to find a legal pathway to terminate the contract, which is possible if there's evidence of exploitation. He urged the company’s executives to show empathy, pointing out that all the actors are still students and should be treated fairly, not taken advantage of.