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[lordterrax]

Doom is the 4th dimension, you'll notice that computers and processor technology goes in steps of 4, the most optimal computer code is split into 4 lines. 4 by 4 bits.

They could be said to be 4 faced, and have a meticulous drive that chunks away at learning. Systematic, strategic. They live for structure and have highly intricate lives. Doom's functional nature is based on distribution/assimilation which is most closely locative, but Life is more exploitation and application/hands on experience.

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The aspect hierarchy is less a hierarchy and more of higher and higher forms of dimensions per aspect. The bigger the dimensional count, the more dimensions, and thus increasing the complexity of that aspect. Breath is the 12th dimension which means it is the one aspect that is most vast and limitless. 12 dimensions is raw spirit dimension, 12 dimensions to rule them all. Heart and Mind are the 9th and 10th dimensions. Blood is 11th dimension. Heart is Essence, even perhaps Substance. Raw feeling that permiates all. Mind is pathway, it constructs a logical course through the other dimensions.

In truth, Light is the 1st dimensional. Making it the most 1 dimension in characature. Time is the second dimension, it loops back around on itself when it comes to an end(vitavi black holes, or death). It is light drawn along in a line. Many 1dm points painted along in a canvas. Space is 3rd dimensional. Depth. Life and Doom, etc you get the idea.

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Void is the aspect of chaos. It is paradoxical and that which is impossible. Those bound to void are stoic. They suffer the most but have some of the most overpowered abilities. Usually introverts and percievers. They prefer anonymity.

Wise and intuitive. Ungod and selflessness, peace and calm. All are strongly independent and self-sufficient. Unique thinking patterns.

Voidbound have problems being ignored.

Doom on the other hand is fate. Not chaos. It is predictable and inevitable. It's the aspect that truly achieves this compared to Rage which is delusional about being inevitable.

Doombound are meticulous. Like BKEW look at his megaposts and endless pages of classpect. My trans ex was prince of doom. He was a jack of all that was relentless about learning new things and it was way more widespread on skillset than most other princes and the main similarities is that it is systematic knowledge. Medicine, electricity, clay/wood/stone crafting, painting, drawing, etc.

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Lightbound

Aside from what Andrew Hussie wrote, and what I wrote on my LordOfClasspect blog about lightbound. There is something I wanted to go further into detail about that is pretty evidently clear in all examples of Lightbound that I think is pretty interesting.

So basically, aside from knowledge Lightbound are marked by an extreme challenge with Morality. Hussie describes that lightbound tend to find loopholes around the rules. This generally works out for them but it becomes a problem in that they often times end up with a distorted or grey perspective of morality, which leads into a tendency that when they do Wrong, they are explicitly Evil and marked by a curse.

Rose Lalonde tried to loophole the game Sburb, and in the process directly destroyed the game's architecture and doomed the entire session even for her friends. Nearly casting them all out into the Void to be eaten by the horrorterrors. Whether explicit or implicit she became the villain defacto. Even her alcoholism in general signifies that she doesn't care enough to recognize that even her seemingly lowly necessary Seer title was absolutely critical and responsible for the success and wellbeing of not just herself but her friends as well. Similar to Dirk's darkest bout of negligence towards his friends but more direct, straightforward and exact.

Vriska snapped the spine of an innocent and continues on destiny's path as if she will face no consequences. Constantly hijacks the plot and spotlight regardless of whether this is actually optimal or not. Her best character development came when she was humble and beating herself up as an inverted expression of her role. Then she could face up to her direct fault and flaws.

Aranae becomes so selfish she will literally doom another version of herself to do it, trying to make herself Alpha by force. In the process she disrupts both Jake and Dirk, Jake in a fundamental way and makes it clear she has no qualms with hurting Dirk to get what she wants. She goes from an extremely patient and kind being to one of impatience and grey morality.

Outside of Homestuck Canon, you have Rick Sanchez, who is an apt example to bring wider representation. As Rick Sanchez is a Lord of Light. Recently it was revealed in a canonical short written by Justin Roiland that Rick is in fact Morty. Rick hands Morty a potion saying that it's from excretions from the memory parasite in season 2, and that it will turn Morty into Rip Van Winkle. He also overlaps his reflection with Morty's face, and points saying "Rick Sanchez". Thus it's officially confirmed Morty is Rick, and the implications and realizations for what this means are endless.

For one, it puts things in perspective. Throughout the entire show Rick and Morty's stories run right alongside each other. And it clearly paints a contrast and shows the way the world works for Morty compared to how it works for Rick. There's also countless references and scenes that completely change context if you realize they are actually synchronized time events synchronizing Rick and Morty in a way that makes it plainly clear that due to Time Shenanigans, everything Morty does and goes through influences and changes Rick's character, memory, etc. So much so to the point that it's obvious everything Morty does IS Rick's actual back story, and Rick "already did it" before, as it's defined when Morty does it for the first time.

The realization is clear. Morty is bullied, is dumber than others around him, and struggles hard to keep up with others. Somewhere along the line, originally, Morty just shifted into prop comedy and entertainment like his father Jerry, before eventually getting into Science and realizing that the mathematical, concrete, and absolute nature of Science played really well with his Asperger Syndrome. He then at some point invents a portal gun, and explores the universe. At some point he flies under the alias Rick Sanchez, which in the real world is a notorious alias for people needing a fake identity especially people who have done so many crimes they can never get clean.

Rick and Morty are so opposite it's not even funny. Yet that's what makes this so obvious. Somewhere along the way Morty has an Ego Death because of how the universe treats him, and he evolves into everything he wasn't. This is why Rick suffers and explains his absolutely nihilistic and cynical view of the world. Because as Morty he learned the hard way that the universe does not care about you, does not play fair, and will just keep pushing and pushing with no limit. Eventually he just snapped and flipped it around so at least he always wins.

Now the relevance here is astounding. As Morty he was a Muse of Void. Inspiring the Void but in a Blackwing way. Morty seems innocent and harmless and like the Hero, but his actions always invariably lead to suffering, death, and evil. Evil Morty is predominated Morty and makes it clear that Morty is just in all ways inherently Evil and Destructive, but in a Passive way. Rick in contrast may contradictingly claim he doesn't care, thinks morality is bullshit, and does things which are morally fucked up. But inversely when challenged by the Devil, has a special passion for wiping him in the dust. Meanwhile even his worst acts which seem on the surface to be so reprehensible that they are unforgivable, what we are shown are things which with a good enough reason to balance it out, actually makes him a Savior.

It's actually Morty who is contradictory. Void is ambivalent and while Voidbound have half Light in them, Morty is the one who is ambivalent when it really matters and doesn't actually care when he absolutely should. Only to challenge Rick's authority and to rebel does Morty act like he's the good guy that really cares. Needless to say if we read the entire story a different way, Rick was inverted originally. As a single entity he became Light more and more over time, but it was a long process of trial and error. In the process to becoming the All Powerful Rick, Morty carries a lot of Moral Baggage. Every Rick has done something virtually ubforgiveable but continues moving through the universe running on as much borrowed time as he can get. Not really deserving everything he has and is but continues on anyways. Changing the Rick and Morty story in a very keen way if you view it as 1 continuous character both ways. Making Rick appear more like Vriska.

Basically if we view it as 1 singular and linear storyline. Then Rick is trying to run along after doing whatever evil and trying to escape the very consequences he created in the process. Nevermind that Morty gaining so much knowledge and changing personality so radically has warped his perception of everything so radically. That he can hardly tell right from wrong, and has no sense of what he is or isn't allowed to do. And technically he has the power to back it up. So much so it's hinted throughout the show of how Morty would have abused his science to do things for his own personal gain. Fridge Horror stuff.

The point is this is a perfect example of what I mean about Lightbound. Even Thor from Marvel Avengers has the fact that his family has a history of Genocide, and it's in his own veins as much as it was in his father's.

Lightbound embody the aspect of Perfection and Holiness. But as it has become obvious this has to be a story of a flawed mortal BECOMING the epitome of this... And God/The Universe is so forgiving and encompassing that nobody said you couldn't break a few eggs to make an omelet. What matters is where you end up/the destination/your intended goal.

Lightbound may mess up more than others, and in vastly worse ways than other Bound. But they succeed more than others do, and go farther.

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Confusing how I explained it, but by all means I agree. Light manifests Void, makes it what it is and makes it Real, paradoxical to what it is. But what I mean is purely functional, not a quality statement about Void being inferior.

Void is Passivity itself, submission. This is synonymously apparent in all it's qualities. For instance Mystery/Subterfuge is functionally about rendering apparent truth into something hidden, which renders it into submission. Voidbound are apathetic and indifferent, which is diametrically opposed to motivated agency. Like how Roxy was ambivalent to her role and what it could do, compared to Calliope who was of another aspect describing it's potential and power.

"Void desires to keep secrets." VS "Light vehemently searches for information." There is an intensity and energy difference in the way even Hussie describes the 2.

In this, Void functions and thrives off being "2nd". Take how Roxy backstabbed condesce. To make a move like that is to predicate upon some first factor and the other person making a move first. Functionally Roxy wins by a move which comes "after" the condesce's agency is first directed somewhere else so she is not paying attention. I can come up with countless examples, and every example of Light VS Void follows this pattern. Lightbound care about the spotlight, the direct antithetical is to never want that. To be humble, put yourself underfoot/be submissive, to be #2. It's not a flaw or an insult, it's a genuine quality/nature. The natural place of Void.

The ultimate rule is that Void wouldn't even exist if Light didn't define that it did in the first place, while inversely something cannot come from nothing... It's fundamentally impossible, so how could Void ever come before Light? Light can create Void but Void cannot create Light, thus it cannot render it sub/child.

My point was that there is a mechanic of Destiny. Which fulfills certain goals, like you said. The aims it makes gives a mathematical result, like the absolute laws of physics unto themselves, gives a predictable outcome. Chaos does not truly exist, it has a manifestation which does not truly detract from the ultimate plan. All the bad things and "Light losing" did not stop it, and were really part of how it succeeds actually. Character developments, etc.

For instance Dirk becoming depressed, neglecting his friends, etc caused doom. But that doom was rendered an illusion to the bigger picture. The dirk that faded into the Void just looped back in Quantum Physics and got it right in another version of himself. I could show you how this same thing is functionally true for all "Void wins" things. The higher mechanics made any sort of Chaos nothing more than a delay to the inevitable.

In any case, you shouldn't see it as me dissing on Void and saying something bad about it. What I am talking about is what Void thrives upon and relishes in. For all it is cracked up to be, it wants to be nothing more than a misdirection. It wants to be pointless and do pointless things. And antithetical to Light, doesn't even have real aims or goals. It is anathema to Goals.

Theory.

A SBURB session will always have all aspects and classes, like the Troll SGRUBs; and this is furthered with the Human Sessions being completely connected to each other, filling in those classpects that were missing.

But the Human Session was also still missing the aspects of Rage, Blood, Mind and Doom; while also missing the classes of Bard, Thief, Sylph and Mage.

I propose that, like how the Consorts will fill in the Server and Client roles, the Carapacians will fill in the missing Classpects.

Consider… Jack Noir - Thief of Rage DD - Mage of Blood CD - Bard of Doom Black Queen - Sylph of Mind

This would also explain why HB constantly gets killed, because Sessions don’t like having extras (It didn’t need another Heart player)

[Know and Remember that sessions put those extras in situations to get removed or killed; consider all those Doomed Daves that shared the same Timeline, or how all the human Guardians inevitably died in some capacity to make way for their Human Players (or in the case of Dad Egbert; Crocker was perfectly alive in the Medium, and the Session didn’t need 2 Dads)].

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I mean all of classpect is real and based on real world physics. But I just wanted to callout that Godtiering is real.

It's Quantum Immortality. It's scientifically proven that when we Die, we can't actually cease to exist and we just loop through time. Which is a physical parallel to the never ending story. Most religions if you know this make a billion times more sense, and even the show Supernatural has employed Multiverse Theory and Quantum Immortality to explain biblical constructs such as Afterlife/Heaven. With the idea that Heaven is this world exalted in multiverse.

Godtiering is extremely difficult to achieve but it's when you actually literally Die, but you realize and remember you died. You become aware that you looped back through time. Most people will never become aware of this, and instead act mindless of it and keep doing the same thing as if time is still linear. If you realize the truth, then you become an meta disconnected piece on the board and it reorients how you think about life and how you do things. You realize you have a literal eternity to do different or new things, or even just settle into the perfect set of things perfect to you and what you like to do.

This is what Jesus was cryptically really trying to reveal and it's so incredibly obvious the more you go back and pay attention to what was said. He Godtiered and realized he was Quantum Immortal, and that is what the ressurection means is for humanity to realize it eventually. Many scenes in the bible reflect this if you go back and reinterpret, and change the perspective of Time and what was meant in terms of time frames and past/present/future. Such as Jesus talking to the disciples and telling them that they would see him again and that they would "reincarnate". Atheists criticise this prophecy asserting it never came true, because Jesus hasn't came back in a new body in the present/future beyond his own era. But they would be wrong if what Jesus meant, and this would be revealed and plainly obvious to us in the here and now, that Jesus meant that they would be THERE in that time for the rest of all eternity, rather than actually having ceased to exist.

Entropy is an illusion, death can't be real because it is a ceasing to exist, yet everything from Quantum Physics to E=Mc^2, and the logical realization that nothingness by it's own self/same quality, cannot exist. Means that nothing cannot really cease to exist. Everything was constructed within Eternity to begin with, so "ashes to ashes" is a fundamental misunderstanding. We aren't from Nothing, we are from Something, thus will always be cut from one and not the other.

Furthermore this explains what it means to prove God exists. It means to witness the literal physical fact that nothing can truly be threatened. Everything held in form will remain in form ultimately, thus everything is Invincible and constructed from this quality in the first place. That ifso factso is what it means to be "Child of God" and why Jesus cryptically never directly referred to Himself directly, because it's not just him. Conscious Agents are a Light Aspect construct, thus are the things which stand out in the universe as the physical quantity of this aspect. We ARE it's clear presence.

Point being, by being Child of God, cut directly from the Divine Aspect, you yourself are a God. Another big thing riddled throughout all world religions throughout history. Once you realize this you eternally ascend into the best possible version of yourself with certainty/godspeed, and it is unstoppable from being realized.

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I believe this is certain. There's a lot about how the canon story reflects even more deeply the universal patterns of all sessions then people have yet to fully realize. Just like in the canon story the events of multiple sessions are revealed to be the combined real path to the successful session all along.

It makes sense, out of all thematic constructs and rules of writing, that skaia is actually destined to succeed. Even though the evil side seems to overwhelmingly win against skaia, most media has this concept of how the heroes always win and the good scenario pans out. And hussie manages to explain and display this in a scientific and perfectly rationally explained way. So this is another thing he proves about the universe. It is ultimately asymmetrically positivist. Because with Light and Void it is an asymmetric duality(Meaning it's one sided. The Void by definition paradoxically doesn't even exist, all it's definition is in being the side that gets overrided by its opposite automatically.) so Light will ultimately always triumph while Void just ends up being one big misdirection.

Point being, the game will ALWAYS calculate out the exact pieces needed to accomplish it's goal with certainty.

I really appreciate that someone else is saying this, because it means Masterclasses are a sure thing which cements that they are definitely real and there is plenty of them despite some people's insane belief that they are impossible and pure fiction.

Theory.

A SBURB session will always have all aspects and classes, like the Troll SGRUBs; and this is furthered with the Human Sessions being completely connected to each other, filling in those classpects that were missing.

But the Human Session was also still missing the aspects of Rage, Blood, Mind and Doom; while also missing the classes of Bard, Thief, Sylph and Mage.

I propose that, like how the Consorts will fill in the Server and Client roles, the Carapacians will fill in the missing Classpects.

Consider… Jack Noir - Thief of Rage DD - Mage of Blood CD - Bard of Doom Black Queen - Sylph of Mind

This would also explain why HB constantly gets killed, because Sessions don’t like having extras (It didn’t need another Heart player)

[Know and Remember that sessions put those extras in situations to get removed or killed; consider all those Doomed Daves that shared the same Timeline, or how all the human Guardians inevitably died in some capacity to make way for their Human Players (or in the case of Dad Egbert; Crocker was perfectly alive in the Medium, and the Session didn’t need 2 Dads)].