Wonders why no one talks about how portraying a childless woman as a bitter ex who was broken up with because she didn’t want children and was raised by a single mother isn’t concerning
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Does anyone have good Tosh/Owen fic recommendations
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Oh I need to be home by 7:30 because Amma needs to leave for work
Dad tries to sing, but he's absolutely terrible at lullabies
I usually work night shift but the one time I get the night off, I get kidnapped by robots
*Thinks about her child, when Alice (The Well) desperately wants to see hers*
You know, I'd be fine with the *twist* at the end of Belinda's story if it was set up more. Yes, her timeline crossed with the Doctor's, which explains "Space Babies", but as it is it sort of comes out of nowhere. There's one single hint at it, and really we should have had theories about their connection the entire season. There should have been evidence of Poppy back in the premier. Give her cameos like Susan had cameos. Sprinkle her about. That baby should have stayed on our minds since we met Belinda.
I think that's my biggest issue between this season and last. The big twist didn't feel as paid off. Not that Ruby's ending didn't have its own flaws, but she at least got her story arcs resolved in a way that felt true to her. Belinda's ending feels too out of left field.
Either dont be afraid of Serialization, or foreshadow better. You put a driving plot of the Pantheon, and of Belinda wanting to go home and neither came to a satisfying conclusion. The Rani and Omega should have had a season finale seperate from the Pantheon. Have her spend a season being an actual pressence around the Doctor with the revolution coming much later.
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If it manages to swap between Rose Tyler (Bad Wolf) and Clyde Langer [artron energy, The Wedding of Sarah Jane Smith] I'll be impressed
I adore Billie and think she would play the Doctor very well but I am not remotely a fan of the idea of her actually being the Doctor. I want the show to go forwards, not backwards. From what I’ve read online about the production issues impacting the end of this season and from the way that “introducing Billie Piper” didn’t have “as the Doctor” on the end, I’m hopeful that it is just a horrendous “buying time with nostalgia bait” thing and an easy casting choice strategy. I can see them thinking “hey the 60th did well, let’s do that again”.
So playing within those terms: if you’re going to buy time with a nostalgia bait special, and it absolutely has to be nostalgia bait, at least make it even across the board and don’t just focus on your favourite white girl who has already returned multiple times and had more shoutouts than any other companion. Do some justice to others, particularly those who had less time and were under-utilised during their run.
For example: We find out quickly that the Doctor hasn’t regenerated with Rose’s face, what’s happened is that - due to him fucking about shooting regeneration energy into the console - the Doctor and the TARDIS have body-swapped. The TARDIS now has free reign of the Doctor’s body while it’s still in the first fifteen hours of its regeneration cycle, and it’s put on its Bad Wolf face because remember who was involved the last time someone fucked about with the console and the endless energy stored within? (Fun Who fact! Artron energy is supposed to be very similar or possibly even the same thing to regeneration energy.)
The TARDIS has some agenda of her own, possibly she wants to find Susan because 1) she’s gotten sick of waiting for the Doctor to do that 2) she misses her 3) she’s staging an intervention. So the TARDIS goes on a rollicking adventure piloting the TARDIS-which-is-now-the-Doctor, who is stuck inside the console or in some symbolic nether space as the kind of consciousness a TARDIS usually is. They don’t even have a face yet. (Possibly at some point three-quarters through they get to the point where they realise it’s impossible to fix the situation and extricate themself if they don’t even have face, so they focus really hard and … end up with Idris’s face temporarily.)
The TARDIS isn’t too bothered about the Doctor’s struggles because as far as she’s concerned they’re safely tucked away and she gets to be the thief for once. She reckons it can’t be that hard to be the Doctor. She gets herself a little companion - alright, she kidnaps someone. Her chameleon circuit is also working way better than it has in years - oh wait. No. The body isn’t supposed to do that, is it?
The body has changed again to take on a face that also once tirelessly searched for a missing Time Lady. It’s turned into Yasmin Khan. The problem is, you see, that over the centuries the TARDIS got a bit too used to taking on interfaces of past inhabitants to argue with, comfort, direct, or bitch out people, usually the Doctor. That, coupled with the natural instincts to adapt and camouflage to a new setting, means that she keeps turning into whichever companion has the most relevant skillset. She isn’t really them, she’s the TARDIS, but she’s wearing their faces, and because she has the memory of the TARDIS and that includes memories of the people she had a telepathic link with, she has access to their memories up until their last trip in the TARDIS.
When she needs to bandage a wound she becomes Belinda. When information needs to be sought out and obtained she becomes Bill Potts. When video game know how is needed, she turns into Ryan. She spends a lot of time as Bill, Yaz, and Martha, because when you’re trying to find someone Yaz will organise you and keep you focused (Clara will also come in clutch with the post-it notes), Bill will ask questions without putting people on guard, and Martha is kind of a Swiss Army knife of usefulness because she knows medical care, knows how to use weapons and navigate sci-fi MacGuffins, is intelligent and never gives up hope on a goal. Take it further back and you can have whatever Classic Who companions never got the spotlight they deserved or simply didn’t get as much time and are often forgotten. Because the TARDIS hasn’t forgotten them. The TARDIS remembers all of them. Meanwhile, companion of the day is just doing their best to keep up.
While the Doctor is trying to navigate who they could possibly turn into this time but having to do so in a space where identity as a concept doesn’t really exist, the TARDIS is dealing with flashing through all these different identities and being pulled every which way. She realises why it’s so hard to focus on the goal of finding Susan, because the harder she tries to go back the more distracted she gets - because here’s the thing, memories are never just memory. The longer she spends as one face, the more she gets wrapped up in the story of that face and the more she cares about the unresolved threads. She only has their memories up until their last trip, and their stories kept going without her. They stepped outside her before they lived their happy ending, so she has no memory of it.
And we realise that this was never just about Susan, it’s about the fact that the TARDIS never gets any choice in who goes and who stays and for how long, all she can do is sit back and watch, and she never gets to say goodbye. She goes from being psychically connected to these people to suddenly never seeing them again, and Belinda’s particularly abrupt departure right after catching a glimpse of Susan in the Doctor’s mind was the final straw.
This is the point where her little kidnapped companion, someone entirely new, is able to help her simply by being themself. Bonus points if said kidnapped companion has been treated so far like a bit of a second class citizen because the TARDIS has been so focused on finding Susan. But they do something that no other companion in the TARDIS’s memory can do or would think to do, and the TARDIS realises that the past is not the way forward, the future is. New life, new people, new friends. She has always known this and believed this, even and especially when the Doctor couldn’t. She’s just like them, she can’t stop herself from opening her doors to new strays.
So the TARDIS gives up the search and does what’s really important: she sends a goodbye message. Not on behalf of the Doctor, just for her, to any past companion who might happen to stumble across it. And to do that, she takes on the face that never got to properly say goodbye or have goodbye said to her: Susan.
Then she swaps bodies back and the Doctor is able to settle into whatever new body they settle on. Possibilities: the kidnapped companion either dies in action or is cool with being photocopied, and the TARDIS suggests their face or is wearing their face when the Doctor gets the reins back, and the Doctor either chooses to roll with it or is stuck with it due to being bad at trying on bodies during regeneration the way Romana did. Or the Doctor just has an entirely new face and now they also have a companion who was the TARDIS’s companion first and is mainly interested in sticking around to stay near her. Either way the emphasis is on heading forwards with entirely new things and accepting that you will never feel ready to let the old things you love go.
Biggest problem with all of this: I would write it as a fanfic but never as an actual episode. Apart from breaking its own Aesop, it would heinous to watch as a viewer who wasn’t intimately familiar with every character flashing onscreen. There’s no way to actually do it that does even-handed justice to Classic companions too because there’s just too many of them. This is just my suggestion trying to follow the prompt of “if you absolutely had to do a big nostalgia bait episode and this was the lead-in you were given, what would you do?” What I would actually do is Not Fucking This; I’d have Fifteen regenerate into literally anyone except a character we’ve already seen a lot of.
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My theory is that Disney pushed on Belinda to see if it would give a boost in ratings.
RTD had already written in Ruby for the many plot based on the characterization and didn't want to split it to Belinda so a lot of the season was just shelving her away. Her outstanding moments were her nurse scenes but she never really stood out as a strong companion who could address a situation.
I have a little conspiracy theory. I think Belinda was never supposed to exist.
Lemme explain.
So, I believe that Ruby was supposed to be a companion for two seasons. I think they had fair notice, probably before they started filming the first, but I think the general storylines were already put in place, and major episodes, specifically 'Robot Revolution', 'The Well' & 'Interstellar Song Contest' were already largely drafted.
I didn't dislike Ruby as a companion, but I really did quite love Belinda. But I feel like this ending feels matched with Ruby's themes, as well as the FINAL episode basically fridge Belinda, literally trapping her in Stepford before having her literally locked in a box.
Final episodes, especially Companion final episodes always involve the active companion. Especially in an RTD season. Rose becomes the Bad Wolf/gets locked in an alternate dimension. Martha walks the entirety of the earth to unionise the human race. Donna unlocks the metacrisis. Even in Steven Moffat, Amy brings back the Doctor, Clara jumps into his timestream, Clara basically drives both the season 8 and 9 finale two parters.
Belinda does... Very little, comparatively. Even her moments with the Doctor feel strange, there's no fallout of her calling the Rani's forces on him, not even any fallout to them being married. She gets a scene where she runs off into the woods to scream, but she doesn't even get an explanation as to who Poppy is from Space Babies, and how the Doctor knows her.
Comparatively, Ruby not only has the emotional weight of stopping Conrad, she also convinces the Doctor of Poppy's existence. Hell, Belinda isn't even THERE when they give the God of Dreams and Wishes to Ruby's family for them to raise.
Theory. Alan Budd was Conrad. Ruby was Belinda. Season 2 starts with a flashback of her kissing Alan, noticeably sexist and disrespectful, names a star after her, and we cut to seventeen years later. The MissBelindaChandra Bots, now known as the 'MissRubySunday Bots' grab her and take her away. The Doctor, of course, comes chasing after her, and the two reunite. This also answers the question as to how Mrs Flood is both Ruby's and Belinda's neighbour. They're the same character. It should be the same house.
The season, largely, continues as normal. Ruby and the Doctor have very much the same dynamic as Belinda and the Doctor. They probably rewrote a lot of the dialogue for a more combative dynamic to distinguish the two. But generally, the two are pretty close, best friends, dressing up and goofing off, and on a rewatch, even when Belinda's words are her own, her actions never feel far from Ruby's.
(I'll admit that's a stretch as 'companion' characters tend to have the same actions, but I hope you understand what I mean.)
Season 2, the vindicator isn't a thing. Ruby admits to enjoying life with the Doctor, and they commit to a couple of funky trips. Replace the 'something is connecting us' speech with Belinda with something like 'the whole universe, and I found you twice/Doctor, I thought I might have to live my life without you, without the universe, let's go everywhere'. This even helps the moment where the Doctor promises Rose that she Will see him again seem to make a lot more sense. Bear in mind, Joy To The World still takes place, so he still has his 'missing Ruby, making two coffees' arc.
(This opening would probably be a parallel to Partners In Crime in some senses? The Doctor and Ruby in the start of Robot Revolution being like the Doctor and Donna constantly missing each other.)
Here, the vindicator never existed. Anyways, it's never mentioned more than a couple of mentions per episode, and even as the deus ex machine weapon against Omega, you could remove every mention of it from the season and it would be fine. The Doctor and Ruby don't have any pressure on getting back on time, they're vibing. It is very much like the last season, only replace the Susan Twist cameos with Mrs Flood cameos.
In 'The Well' we get an indicator that the human race is not in fact gucci. And in 'Interstellar Song Contest' Graham Norton pops up and tells them that the Earth was destroyed on the 24th of May. And this is like Journey's End, when the Doctor and Donna return to Earth, and then the planet vanishes.
(I really see a LOT of Donna's era in this season)
So, in Wish World, the Doctor and Ruby are married. Replace the scene where Ruby knocks on the door and says everything is fake with Ruby being the Doctor's wife telling him that she doesn't remember their daughter. Keep the scene of her being asked about giving birth to Poppy and screaming in the woods, keep the scene of her finding Shirley, only this time, someone else calls the police on both the Doctor AND Ruby. Which is why we get zero fallout of the Doctor feeling like he can't trust Belinda. Because here, they were BOTH reported and taken in.
So in Reality War, Ruby is the companion confronts Conrad, except it isn't Conrad in this version. It's Allan. Noticeably sexist Allan. Belinda even says 'all you ever did was correct me' and that's what he's doing. Correcting the World, in his image. His obsession with obedience.
Hell, it even makes Poppy make more sense. Poppy is born because 'Allan' would want 'Ruby' to be a mother, and in season 1, we see Ruby ask the Doctor if he has children, to which he responds that he will have. Ruby sees him with the space babies. And RUBY, who remembers Poppy, tells the Doctor NO, that she was real, that Poppy existed and he NEEDS to save her. Ruby even tells Poppy 'I wish we were (your parents)' which would make space babies make sense.
Maybe the Zero Box exists, maybe it doesn't, but midnight hits and it's the 25th. And Ruby convinces everyone as to Poppy's existence, and the Doctor leaves, pours regeneration energy into the time vortex, bringing Poppy back and entrusting her to Ruby. (Poppy returns, but is fully human.)
This works for Ruby's themes way stronger. Ruby's arc was always about finding her mother, and being a foundling. I mean, she was even wiped from existence. (They try to make Belinda relate with being trapped in a time storm which is weak).
This is RUBY'S story. Even the idea around family, we get wonderful moments with Cherry and Carla, and after a whole season of Belinda nattering about her parents, we only see her mum for three seconds. And I think they wrote Lucky Day to establish Conrad, and explain why Ruby matters to him.
I don't think this makes the season bad at all. I am a bit upset that Belinda seems like such an afterthought as a character. But here's my theory all the same.
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I had hoped with the changing from the wish world back to reality it would have fixed the mavity thing. Like instead of teal being more blue, mavity is now called gravity.
And the Doctor shifting reality by a second to bring a space baby to Earth would have locked the gods out of the universe. Like a resetting the universe (Series 5)
I have mixed feelings about this last episode of the season.
Positives, Ncuti ruled every scene that he's been in.
But on the other hand,
The Rani who story-wise looked like the big end game of the last two seasons died without much of a hurrah (Flood's still there but more on that later) and neither did Omega who went away after appearing on screen for just a minute or two.
Several of the more prominent characters (Mel and Rose Noble) felt like glorified background characters. I do think that they'll expand on them on the spin off though.
in terms of the future of the show,
it felt like Ncuti had left open the majority of the plotlines. For one thing, it felt like they were going somewhere with Ruby's memory (which I had hoped explored what happened in the first season. What of Susan? What of Mrs Flood?
What about the deal with gods and such along with that pinch of salt? What of 'mavity'? What about Rogue? This feels like the very opposite of chekov's gun.
Now, whoever coming next will have to pass by all this unresolved plot or continue on and start anew.
But, no, they can't start fresh because, do you know came back? Billie Piper. So, now, they'll have to talk about something that happened like 20 years ago.
What happened to starting fresh?
Because, this era was anything but. I understand that Doctor Who has a rich history, but to repeatedly pull out the "Ooh, don't you remember all those other actors who have played the Doctor" clip show annoyed me.
I do hope Ncuti returns as the Doctor somehow because otherwise, for me at least, it felt both short and unresolved.
Edit: I loved the other episodes of Ncuti's era, but to see it end like this feels horrible
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We can just pretend it was because of the timey wimey stuff from the robot revolution.
I'm happy for Belinda, but why Poppy?
Also so there was never any chance of Belinda being in next season?
Okay, ONE thing I have made up my mind about regarding the wildly mind-boggling chaos that was "The Reality War"...
(Spoilers below the cut)
I've convinced myself Belinda really DID have a baby the entire time and it was all the god-trickery stuff that made things present to us at first as if she DIDN'T have a baby... Because that whole "Belinda's a mother now and insists she has always been a mother" thing came out of freakin' NOWHERE.
Like...
Look, I ADORE Belinda, and I know she is sweet and caring and kind, and I myself wouldn't want a baby to disappear either even if the baby isn't my own... but the way Belinda was SO deeply attached to Poppy just makes no sense at all if she wasn't already Poppy's mother.
Now, does this explain why Poppy was a space baby, or why when we first met Belinda she was living with roommates with no sign of a baby? No, no it does not. But this would at least give some credibility, some sort of through-line from Belinda's early characterization (because sadly her character development was completely dropped in the last half of the season) to the finale, so that's my theory and I'm sticking to it.
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I miss the old special effects of the faces merged together and regeneration energy looking less light lightning
Doctor Who The Reality War
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4x6
Gotta love Stella guilt tripping Augie into things.
Like I didn't ask you, but I'm gonna go do a stupid thing alone.
But S3 Stella didn't like getting into Augie's mistakes
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4x4 Sadie is my favorite character because no one in Stella's family was ever going to give her a reality check.
Trevor Strand - insists on talking to a criminal
Colton Miller - family has put you out of your house
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The way I would have responded to Stella telling Augie he cause Abby's stroke like she didn't get Liam shot
I wasn't gonna do my dipshit 'reviews' anymore because of Life Stuff, but here we are
Abby lost A METRIC FUCKTONNE of points with me tonight, probably permanently
Stella: Horrible person, magnificent hair
Wow, I guess Augie's getting the "instant asshole" character 'development' plan, huh
Jake is a ton of fun in this role omg (a delightful subplot/sideplot/whatever is this whole fancypants caper Trey and Cassie are embroiled in AND I AM HERE FOR IT)
POOR LIAM );
I realize y'all are desperate but STOP ADVERTISING THAT TW SHIT I lose a year of lifespan and about 25 IQ points every time I hear "Mary" speak
I actually felt bad for Neo. And tbh I feel like there's soooo much about this weird little terror cell that the show hasn't explored. I hope we learn at least a little bit more, because if they leave it at "longhaired sadist guy was TOTES the last one" I will be very, very dissatisfied.
Uh. Liam is a good shot. Also silly question but how did Liam know that was a "stab him in the heart" syringe and not like a "stab him in the leg" syringe?? I have either been living my life right or all damn kinds of wrong....
Anyone else annoyed/disgusted that Colton is using Geri's home as a crash pad where he can bang Stella? No? Just me? Okay.
Simple solution: Throw out all Stella's crap and rent the room to a UNT or UT student in from out of state. [Augie's an asshole right now and clearly doesn't deserve to inherit it. Because pLoT rEaSoNs. *baby barf*]
PS I realize some of y'all might be upset with how hard I am on Stella but literally every choice the show has made re: her character makes her impossible to like or root for, including (but not limited to): the bizarre overnight assholeness of Augie (?!) i.e. "Augie becomes Stella but somehow it's actually a bad thing now because he's *checks notes* a male (?)"; STILL NO CONSEQUENCES because Abby ex machina; pouty lower lip and undeservedly sweet boyfriend means she's the damsel? I guess?; Stella FOR ONCE not being the ones the cops have come for = Stella is Adult(tm)
Someone who thinks regular family/household chores are punishment and not, like, a part of being human is a self-absorbed little princess, not a daughter. I just. GET HER OUT OF MY SIGHT.
Anyway.
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The Global Right Ascendance Will Leave Israel in the Wreckage
Many people have taken note of recent poll data regarding American attitudes towards Israel, which are (to summarize) cratering. Among Democrats, 69% now view Israel unfavorably. This doesn't surprise me, as Israel has done everything it possibly can to spit in the eye of Democrats and liberals (and yet somehow seems ever-so wounded that it's resulted in declining support). To paraphrase Chidi from The Good Place: In order to be a liberal, you have to do liberal things! But what really should get people's eyebrows up are the numbers amongst young Republicans, where a majority (50%) also view Israel unfavorably (this is in contrast to older Republicans, who overwhelmingly like Israel; amongst Democrats there is a little generational gap). The MAGA Young Turks have no reservoir of good will towards Israel. They may sometimes find it a useful rhetorical trope to instantiate other goals (like xenophobic nativism), but it's a purely instrumental play. Ultimately, the rising tide of antisemitism amongst young Republicans is going to swamp whatever residual utility Israel has in the toolkit of right-wing domestic authoritarianism. Indeed, reading this poll data reminded me of Robert Kagan's article a few years ago about Israel's future in an illiberal world -- namely, that Israel is delusional if it thinks that, in a world governed by reactionary nationalism combined with short-sighted faux-realpolitik, it will retain any sort of "special relationship" with its erstwhile patrons. Negative polarization alone will accelerate already deteriorating relationship Israel has with other western powers as Israel becomes associated with the new illiberal bloc; but if you look at the prime players in said bloc (Russia, China), Israel's never had an especially warm relationship with them either. Add that to the waxing influence amongst young MAGA sorts of figures like Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, and why would Israel expect to remain anyone's favorite? Why wouldn't the right jettison Israel the moment it becomes an inconvenience to dealmaking with nations possessing more people, more territory, more wealth, and more oil? We're already seeing inklings of this in how Israel has been treated in the tariff, er, "negotiations." First, they were slapped with higher tariffs than Iran. Israel tried to preempt that move by dropping its tariff rate for the United States to zero, but it didn't work even after an embarrassing bit of personal supplication from Bibi. Turns out Israel isn't Trump's special favorite; the best it can hope for is to be relegated to a pure client-state, begging for scraps (even antisemites, after all, sometimes are willing to tolerate Jews when they sit in states of permanent abasement). This is all, of course, leopards-eating-faces on a geopolitical scale. But Israeli conservatives are, I think, in complete denial as to what's happening here. There may or may not be an ascendance of illiberal conservatism over the next few decades. But I predict that, of all the countries that might identify with and try to hop aboard that bandwagon, Israel is the most likely to be left behind in the wreckage. via The Debate Link https://ift.tt/A2ISyJY
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Aaron Thorsen will be missed
#tim’s snatch and grab saga continues requested by anonymous
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Is Lucy mediocre then?
Chenford + Celina Juarez
– 6x03, “Trouble in Paradise”
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Do monkeys have four arms? Do ants have 6 arms?
Does appa have 6 legs or 4 arms and 2 legs or 4 legs and 2 arms?
Appa exists in a state of quantum flux where all of the above are true. (You also missed 6 arms as an option.)
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The Outsiders TV show
I don't wanna @ anyone because I understand how fast things seem to move in today's landscape of streaming shows dropping entire seasons in one day, and networks pumping out new series constantly to try to attract more subscribers with no intent to actually maintain those shows over time but I just saw someone self-deprecatingly lament that they are still thinking about a show that ended almost a year ago, making fan art and playlists for it, and I want to be very clear:
you can still create fanworks when it comes to old media!! PLEASE do!! there are always going to be new fans who will appreciate it, and veteran fans who are dying for new content and new perspectives. also, less than a year is NOTHING. the original Star Trek series was on TV six decades ago and there are still people losing their minds over it, writing stories and reblogging gifsets daily, and that's only one example.
a fandom lasts as long as there are people who love a thing, even if it's only a handful of people. love what you love and write and draw and make gifs and playlists about it!
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Alright, I may get shot down completely for this but I think most of the Girl Meets World fans COMPLETELY MISUNDERSTAND the love triangle.
Now I know that sounds like an exaggeration but trust me with all the posts I've seen about it, it very much is not.
All of the people saying lucaya should've been endgame are 100% missing how the love triangle happened and even the end results, which were that Maya and Lucas didn't even like each other in that way.
The entire triangle stems from Maya's identity crisis where she loses herself and becomes more like Riley, and when she becomes like Riley she starts to experience Riley's feelings for Lucas to make sure he's good for her. And because she's becoming like Riley and also Riley saying her and Lucas are "siblings" (they are not), Lucas starts liking Maya as well.
The whole resolution to the triangle is Maya refinding herself and realizing that she never liked Lucas romantically, and Lucas realizing that he likes Riley, always has and always will, and he only liked Maya because she was Riley at the time.
And at the end of the day it doesn't even matter, because the real point was to show that no matter what they go through, Riley and Maya are still best friends and will always be best friends and will always be there for each other.
Also I feel like I should mention how Josh fits into this because that is also a thing that people get wrong. Josh isn't the bad guy in this situation, and Maya isn't wrong to like him. Three years isn't a very big age gap, especially when Maya is much more mature than her age would typically be. And Josh isn't a groomer for saying he'll wait, either. I know some people have big issues with that, but to me it's a really sweet and smart way to go about things and not any kind of evil or irredeemable action.
(For the record, I'm not anti- any of the ships here. I'm not anti-lucaya, anti-joshaya, anti-rucas, or even anti-riarkle. I don't care what you ship, I just want people to understand this story and why things ended up how they did in regards to these ships and characters)
(Also for the record, I am open to this starting a respectful discussion in reblogs/comments, but please keep it respectful and don’t turn this into any kind of flame war)
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I’ve been watching more of the iCarly revival and realized that I don’t ship Seddie and Lucaya (from Girl Meets World) for the same reason: the female in the ship (Sam and Maya) are too abusive towards the male (Lucas and Freddie) for my comfort. In the original iCarly series, Sam was physically abusive towards Freddie constantly. In Girl Meets World, Maya constantly put down and demeaned Lucas. Whereas Carly and Riley actually like Freddie and Lucas for who they were.
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