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Have you seen the mic the snare vid on m5

I have!! I think it's fantastic that such a well-produced video exists that covers just how good Maroon 5 were and the drastic way the sound has changed.

I do disagree with a fair number of his assertions and pretty much every one of his takes on the albums aside from JORDI. He views Overexposed as being a big mixed bag wheras to me its almost all just different flavors of incredibly bad overproduced junk, while he sees V as unremarkable while I think it has probably the best songs to come from the "modern" Maroon 5 sound. And then in terms of the actually really good albums I'm a staunch defender of both Songs About Jane and The Fourth World, both of which he sort of dismisses a bit (ESPECIALLY Forth World).

Overall though its a fantastic video just to get a feel for what happened to the band.

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7th August 2022

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Killers tierlist. Its pretty funny how I started listening to them because Hot Fuss had so many Strokes-isms only for them to abandon that sound pretty immediately after. Sams Town was a stroke of genius but it took them a while to really refind their spark therafter imo

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ill be updating this post with new albums for every like instead of doing endless re-reblogs so remember to hit "View Original Post" on the post's three-dots button if its a reblog or just click the post itself to make sure its the current one

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For any Muse who might get frustrated about how the fandom seems to always be throwing a tantrum about new Muse songs and how much they dislike Muse's 'new directions', just a gentle assurance that the fandom has always been like this.

They were really not fond of Black Holes and Revelations when it came out, some of them didn't even believe Supermassive Black Hole was a real song. They thought it was a joke. Muse, their beloved metal-leaning hard rock band, going glitz, glam and electro? Ignoring the fact that their main man just built a whole synthesizer into his electric guitars (the XY Kaoss pad), Muse and electronic? Ignoring the arp synth on Bliss, Muse and electronic?

Supermassive Black Hole was the first single on BHAR, and the old fans were aghast. Hated it. Then when Twilight used the song and brought Muse to the attention of... well. Teenage girls, essentially, it again split the fandom into the old heads (the real, gritty rock fans, you hear me) and the airheaded dumb teenage girls that only knew them through Twilight and silly romance novels. (I hope you understand these aren't my words. It's just... fucking 2006. The 00s were horrible like that.)

They also hated Take A Bow. Despite the fact that Muse had been using the opening synth progression as an intro to Space Dementia live throughout the Absolution tour, they disliked the synths on it. They hated Invincible.

And just to balance things out, Muse in the meanwhile were having a blast: Matt doing his alien schtick in interviews, jetsetting across Europe from headline gigs and festivals to award shows, they occasionally got to take charter flights and stuff, and they were in an interesting place musically where their sound was expanding, taking inspiration from nightclub indie music like LCD Soundsystem and bussing with the Strokes (they've said Starlight was inspired by them), working up to playing some of the biggest arena and even stadium gigs of their lives. 2006 Reading Festival, their first Reading headline. Huge moment for Muse. 2007, two sold out nights at the 90,000 capacity new Wembley. All this is to say, if Muse hadn't made Black Holes the album they did, there's no way they'd be nearly as successful as they are today. So don't doubt it and don't feel bad for them! But the Muse fandom is passionate, and so you maybe heard the naysayers louder than you would with most band fandoms.

But were there detractors before Black Holes? Might surprise you, but yes! And I'm not talking about Pitchfork and the rest of the press!

This will make no sense in 2025's musical landscape and understanding of rock and guitar music, but fans hated Time Is Running Out. I've seen those old Muse messageboard threads, they did Not hold back. TIRO was a 'pop song', and so it was Bad. It was Muse selling out. Fans had heard quite a few of these songs well before release, and Muse were threatening to go 'more prog' on their third album, and it threw their OOS-loving fans a little. (Check out this interview from the archives with then-BBC Radio 1's Steve Lamacq for a sense of what was going on).

So don't worry about who hates Thought Contagion or whether fans inexplicably dislike Will Of The People, an album so classically Muse that I am forced to wonder whether the fans that dislike it and I are actually thinking about the same band when refer to them. It's been like this on The Resistance (god, they hated the symphonic bits, strings used to really rile up the anti-sentimental rock fandom. Riffs and RIFFS ONLY you hear me?), The 2nd Law got So Much Hate for Muse embracing electronic music (again, not new....) and working with Skrillex, it was the whole reason the 'back to basics, back to our rock roots' idea even popped into the band's head when going in to make Drones. Matt's talked about the well, fan pressure to sound a certain way on the song Pressure, and Simulation Theory itself got a lot of agitated fan responses.

The interesting thing with Muse is that despite it all, the reason why they are still such a widely loved band is that people come around to their albums. At the end of the day, it is fantastic music. Well written, incredibly forward-thinking and genre-blending. Fans' love for Muse keeps them giving the newer albums another chance, and you will often see this in most Muse Youtube comment sections (or other places), there are many comments about how their songs grew on fans. They like them after a few listens. It's just about trusting the band to be good at their job and make incredible music, and I can't give up on Musers despite all my above qualms because they do still have that love and trust. Don't worry about it.

Also, about BHAR specifically (and this is me citing some sources), someone asked about it on the Muse reddit a little while ago and it'll basically confirm what I just told you. Very interesting insight into the place rock music occupied in popular music at the time (in opposition to other genres, the rebellion genre if you will, as opposed to Just Another Popular Genre. That's a whole post in itself). Don't worry about it.

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I think what happens is videogames introduce sheltered people to music genres they've never heard before, and even though they love it, they have no context for where to find more, so it stays in their mind as "Persona music" or "Sonic music." I was much the same with Guilty Gear introducing me to hard rock and heavy metal, and while those genres are a lot easier to find more of, it's still such a wide space that it's hard to narrow down exactly what type of rock you want to hear more of.

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@tribefriday

Noah "My favorite item of clothing is skirts" Deutschmann.

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what did u think of the new maroon 5 song that came out

i cant fucking believe i missed this. holy shit. theres new maroon 5 music in my lifetime. and it doesnt sound AWFUL. it has sauce. it has a Little bit of swag. which is like more than you can say about maroon 5 in the last 10 years. if the deep cuts from the album have more like this we Might be back ...

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collection of highlights from The Strokes' 2011 SPIN cover story

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THE STROKES 2025 COMEBACK!! New music??? I HOPE THEY GO FOR A TOUR AND COME TO MY HOUSE

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The strokes if they locked in (becoming an mtv cartoon that got 13 episodes in 2003)

Layout without them under cut

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Transgender reading on The Killers' "Wonderful Wonderful" (2017)

The album has Flowers' most personal songwriting to date

"The Man" and "Run For Cover" are explicitly about living up to the expectations others have presented of masculinity and trying to stick your chest out when confronted

"Tyson VS Douglas" is about how Flowers' worldview as a child changed seeing heavyweight boxer Mike Tyson lose in an unbelievable upset, and how it changed his entire view of the infalliable man, that being born a man doesn't mean you become unstoppable.

"The Rut" is about being stuck in a depressive state unable to act. Contains the lyrics "So I'm handing you a memory, I hope you understand // That steadily reminds you of who I really am".

The same song is written from the POV of Flowers' wife. Per Wikipedia, "The pitch on Flowers' vocals was altered to make his voice sound more feminine"

"The Calling", an immensely biblically themed song, contains the lyrics; "I walked into town with a message for my old man // I've got the last two chapters of Matthew in my hand". The last two chapters of Matthew is the crucification and resurrection of christ; put another way, the prospect of rebirth, presented to Flowers' father.

Final song on the album, "Have All The Songs Been Written", is about whether or not its too late to change, if "every ship [has] gone sailing?" and if "every heart [has] gone blue?". (Blue -> "the masculine color). Also contains the lyrics "Have all these years been worth it? Or am I the great regret?", Flowers asks if his life up to now is really one where he's been true to himself

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the coffee shop i work at plays music on a shuffled playlist and every time Maroon 5 Sunday Morning plays on it i pop off. adam levine brainrot.

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Rebirth of the Cool / Flashback: The Strokes’ First Impressions / Group Therapy / Philosophy 101 with Julian Casablancas

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The youth yearn for kawaii-esque strokes magazine