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A normal day into Kishiar Childhood ✨🧡 (with young Keilusa as a guest star!)
Poor Nathan💙 needed to keep up with the little second prince since he was young 🤭
#kishiar la orr#nathan zuckerman#keilusa la orr#turning by kuyu#turning novel#i want more anecdotes of their young days together so much#precious little angels#prev tags
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from the same star ☆゚.*・。゚
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a place in the stars ✴️🌠✨🌟💫
wallpaper ver here
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https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/theyre-not-human-how-19th-century-inuit-coped-with-a-real-life-invasion-of-the-walking-dead
Indigenous groups across the Americas had all encountered Europeans differently. But where other coastal groups such as the Haida or the Mi’kmaq had met white men who were well-fed and well-dressed, the Inuit frequently encountered their future colonizers as small parties on the edge of death.
“I’m sure it terrified people,” said Eber, 91, speaking to the National Post by phone from her Toronto home.
And it’s why, as many as six generations after the events of the Franklin Expedition, Eber was meeting Inuit still raised on stories of the two giant ships that came to the Arctic and discharged columns of death onto the ice.
Inuit nomads had come across streams of men that “didn’t seem to be right.” Maddened by scurvy, botulism or desperation, they were raving in a language the Inuit couldn’t understand. In one case, hunters came across two Franklin Expedition survivors who had been sleeping for days in the hollowed-out corpses of seals.
“They were unrecognizable they were so dirty,” Lena Kingmiatook, a resident of Taloyoak, told Eber.
Mark Tootiak, a stepson of Nicholas Qayutinuaq, related a story to Eber of a group of Inuit who had an early encounter with a small and “hairy” group of Franklin Expedition men evacuating south.
“Later … these Inuit heard that people had seen more white people, a lot more white people, dying,” he said. “They were seen carrying human meat.”
Even Eber’s translator, the late Tommy Anguttitauruq, recounted a goose hunting trip in which he had stumbled upon a Franklin Expedition skeleton still carrying a clay pipe.
By 1850, coves and beaches around King William Island were littered with the disturbing remnants of their advance: Scraps of clothing and camps still littered with their dead occupants. Decades later, researchers would confirm the Inuit accounts of cannibalism when they found bleached human bones with their flesh hacked clean.
“I’ve never in all my life seen any kind of spirit — I’ve heard the sounds they make, but I’ve never seen them with my own eyes,” said the old man who had gone out to investigate the Franklin survivors who had straggled into his camp that day on King William Island.
The figures’ skin was cold but it was not “cold as a fish,” concluded the man. Therefore, he reasoned, they were probably alive.
“They were beings but not Inuit,” he said, according to the account by shaman Nicholas Qayutinuaq.
The figures were too weak to be dangerous, so Inuit women tried to comfort the strangers by inviting them into their igloo.
But close contact only increased their alienness: The men were timid, untalkative and — despite their obvious starvation — they refused to eat.
The men spit out pieces of cooked seal offered to them. They rejected offers of soup. They grabbed jealous hold of their belongings when the Inuit offered to trade.
When the Inuit men returned to the camp from their hunt, they constructed an igloo for the strangers, built them a fire and even outfitted the shelter with three whole seals.
Then, after the white men had gone to sleep, the Inuit quickly packed up their belongings and fled by moonlight.
Whether the pale-skinned visitors were qallunaat or “Indians” — the group determined that staying too long around these “strange people” with iron knives could get them all killed.
“That night they got all their belongings together and took off towards the southwest,” Qayutinuaq told Dorothy Eber.
But the true horror of the encounter wouldn’t be revealed until several months later.
The Inuit had left in such a hurry that they had abandoned several belongings. When a small party went back to the camp to retrieve them, they found an igloo filled with corpses.
The seals were untouched. Instead, the men had eaten each other.
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god I love turning but imagine how bangers it were if the antagonists were actually smart
#i thought Duke Diarca would be our villian at the beginning#but he keeps being a disappointment 😞#he doesn't even have a foresight and can't even feel the changes happening around him#he keeps being in denial holdings on to his useless pride#i don't know how he was able to have upper hand on the imperial family and Noble factions with the way he is#and the story's pace is getting dull#i couldn't focus on the great southern earthquake arc#had to read to over several days bc it was so boring#i just hope southern lands arc would be interesting#and the chief of the wolf's eye tribe would be someone who can go toe to toe with kishiyu#also i think it is high time some of this side men die too#the cavalry needs to suffer a bit to raise the stakes#turning#turning by kuyu#turning novel
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No!! You don't have to judge and treat the 2TL Kishiar from the actions and choices of his past TL self. He doesn't have his past self's memories and he didn't experienced the things the first TL Kishiar experienced. For this to happen he would need to gain all the memories of his past self. As far as you have read upto every bit of information he has, has been given to him by Yuder. Everything else he has made assumptions based on his innerself. He can make guesses based on how he would react in a potential situation. From his perspective, he is same at the core but still different.
What I'm talking about is the perspective of us Readers. As the story progresses we see what kind of a person he is at his core. And as we get glimpses of the past!Kishiar we know what he must be thinking when he made those decisions. What emotions he must be feeling when he made impulsive choices like sneaking into commander's office even after he stepped down from his position. We know all these, can feel all these bc we know what kind of a person current Kishiar is. However painful and harmful the past!Kishiar's decisions and actions were, they were made out of love for someone he cherishes and cares about. (I know this sound twisted but bear with me. Bc I'm not saying you have to forgive 1TL!Kishiar for his wrongdoings. I'm not making excuses for him.)As someone else said Kishiar La Orr's character basis is his loved ones. Even though both of them showed their love to Yuder in different ways it was in the context of their circumstances.
Who actually needs to reconciliate between the two is YUDER. It's his perspective that is differentiating between the two. He has to accept that they are the same person to move forward or he will forever be haunted by his past.
I think I'm not making much sense here. It would be better for you to read up to 1000 chapters for this to make sense. It also objectively talks about past!Kishiar actions and decisions. All of this is done by Yuder himself. You would be amazed by how many angles the author has included as not even one gets left behind as far as I can think and make readers dissatisfied. What you just said is included too.
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Also I admit there is a bit of a personal sentiment included in the OG post. To me love is something all consuming, devotional and unconditional. If we choose to love someone then we also choose to love their ghosts. To love only the good part but not accepting the worst version they could be seems unfair to me. Bc that would mean you don't see all the facets of that person. The broken pieces of the mirror you see, if you only take the pieces that are beautiful and good and discard the ugly pieces whose edges may potentially cut you, then you won't get the whole mirror and won't be able see what the reflection would look like when combined all of that together. (This sound whimsical but this is my kind of love.)
I always find it strange that people seems to differentiate between the 1TL and 2TL Kishiar when essentially they are the one and same person put into different circumstances and according to that made different choices. Like when asked most would say they are different.
And i thought how can that be??? There are many hints throughout the story in the current timeline that give insight to how the 1TL Kishiar may have behaved under certain situations given his then mindset and mentality. The dude was spiraling and we get glimpses in current TL how impulsive and irrational he can be while simultaneously being the most rational and level-headed person. There is an understanding on our part to all his past actions however incomprehensible they may seem on the surface.
Then it hit me somewhere between last 500 chapters that the reason most people feel this way might be bc that is what Yuder feels, since the story is in his pov. Like he keep saying he always thought they were same yet different. He can't or don't want to reconciliate between the past and present based on his wildly different experience within the two timelines. It understandable bc he doesn't have enough evidence or memories of past Kishiar and one's negative feelings towards something or someone are hard to change.
This was same until we reach chapter 927 and from then on he has to admit that they are the same. I won't elaborate bc spoilers!!
Basically, what I'm trying to say here, Past and the current Kishiar are not different. bc their essence or core, even the behavior and personality given the mental space, are the same.
If that were the case we are reading very different story then what is mentioned. Maybe even different trope.
#Tumblr community is amazing#even when people disagree they do it in the most civil way#i don't really make posts and only come here to get perspective and opinions of others#but if somethings bothers me too much#i just get it out of my system here#turning by kuyu#turning novel
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idk about yall but i have been seeing LOTS of yurified hjyj propaganda and im going insane
#oh my! fem jinjae#op this is doing silly things to my heart 💕💖💖#jinjae#han yujin#sung hyunjae#s classes that i raised
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Yeah. I understand all your points. This is why I said most people don't want to fuse the two cause it's burdensome to the heart and mind.
Spoilers!!!! I read upto chapter 1000 yesterday and I think the most likely outcome will be one of the two: the remnant part of past!Kishiar will disappear (like merging with the eternal flame of sun god or something) and find peace OR Yuder will absorbed that remaining part after saving it. And l personally think the second is more plausible bc up until now throughout the story Yuder is the only one connected to it and not Kishiar. Like Kishiar does get to experience the past TL in the dreams but only when Yuder is the one dreaming about it simultaneously (e.g. the cavalry commander appointment ceremony). The dreams he has himself he doesn't remember after waking up. So Past!Kishiar and the current one aren't connected directly but it is Yuder as a medium connecting them. I think this is also the reason why he can't go inside cracks with Yuder. And i also think that part will help heal some if not most of those holes inside Yuder's soul as he is essentially the part he is missing.
Another reason I think this will be the outcome is that if the two fused then the current Kishiar will be burdened by the memories of his past self. We get to see how past!Kishiar was always in pain whenever he looked at Yuder after the second gender manifestation incident. He is riddled with so much guilt he doesn't know how to handle it well. Both of them didn't know how to handle it so they mostly ignored it like a ghost over the shoulder. And Kishiar La Orr is a person who feels everything so deeply even when he doesn't show it. And bc he feels so deeply that he put up a mask, doesn't want to burden others with his intense emotions. If the past and present merged then all the guilt, pain, suffering, every negative emotions and deteriorating mental health from the time he lost his only chance at life to everything he lost afterwards (his brother, his sister-in-law, his dreams, his hopes and his first love 💔💔💔) till his death would transfer over to the current Kishiar. No matter how strong and will-powered he is, this would utterly break him.
So I think the author made this conscious choice from the beginning to not make the two come face to face, they can only know about each other through Yuder. This will be a good outcome too for the people like me who want the past!Kishiar to have some joy and peace in his life. If that remnant part is absorded in Yuder's soul, he can know that Yuder is happy and looking forward to a bright future, moving on from the painful past. and he would at least get to experience some of that joy through Yuder. So I think the author might give this olive branch to satisfy both factions.🤞🤞
And also l like that Yuder is finally accepting his past and 1TL!Kishiar's love however painful it might be. Because only through acknowledging and accepting things for what they are he can find peace and move forward and not be overshadowed by it.
I always find it strange that people seems to differentiate between the 1TL and 2TL Kishiar when essentially they are the one and same person put into different circumstances and according to that made different choices. Like when asked most would say they are different.
And i thought how can that be??? There are many hints throughout the story in the current timeline that give insight to how the 1TL Kishiar may have behaved under certain situations given his then mindset and mentality. The dude was spiraling and we get glimpses in current TL how impulsive and irrational he can be while simultaneously being the most rational and level-headed person. There is an understanding on our part to all his past actions however incomprehensible they may seem on the surface.
Then it hit me somewhere between last 500 chapters that the reason most people feel this way might be bc that is what Yuder feels, since the story is in his pov. Like he keep saying he always thought they were same yet different. He can't or don't want to reconciliate between the past and present based on his wildly different experience within the two timelines. It understandable bc he doesn't have enough evidence or memories of past Kishiar and one's negative feelings towards something or someone are hard to change.
This was same until we reach chapter 927 and from then on he has to admit that they are the same. I won't elaborate bc spoilers!!
Basically, what I'm trying to say here, Past and the current Kishiar are not different. bc their essence or core, even the behavior and personality given the mental space, are the same.
If that were the case we are reading very different story then what is mentioned. Maybe even different trope.
#Aaaahhhh#this became long#the 1TL!Kishiar is my beloved bc he's so tragic#kishiar is sensitive subject for me too 🤝#kishiar la orr#yuder aile#kishiar x yuder#kishyu#turning by kuyu#turning#turning novel
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I always find it strange that people seems to differentiate between the 1TL and 2TL Kishiar when essentially they are the one and same person put into different circumstances and according to that made different choices. Like when asked most would say they are different.
And i thought how can that be??? There are many hints throughout the story in the current timeline that give insight to how the 1TL Kishiar may have behaved under certain situations given his then mindset and mentality. The dude was spiraling and we get glimpses in current TL how impulsive and irrational he can be while simultaneously being the most rational and level-headed person. There is an understanding on our part to all his past actions however incomprehensible they may seem on the surface.
Then it hit me somewhere between last 500 chapters that the reason most people feel this way might be bc that is what Yuder feels, since the story is in his pov. Like he keep saying he always thought they were same yet different. He can't or don't want to reconciliate between the past and present based on his wildly different experience within the two timelines. It understandable bc he doesn't have enough evidence or memories of past Kishiar and one's negative feelings towards something or someone are hard to change.
This was same until we reach chapter 927 and from then on he has to admit that they are the same. I won't elaborate bc spoilers!!
Basically, what I'm trying to say here, Past and the current Kishiar are not different. bc their essence or core, even the behavior and personality given the mental space, are the same.
If that were the case we are reading very different story then what is mentioned. Maybe even different trope.
#maybe someone else could've worded this better#but I've always agonized over this topic#maybe people differentiate between them bc it's easier on mind and heart#but Guys!!!#it is so much more enriching and heart wrenching to think ofcthem as the same person#enjoying the experience in all it shades#yuder aile#kishiar la orr#turning#turning by kuyu#turning novel
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Daichi sketchsheet yippee✨️🤍
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Horrible fantasy idea:
Every time the royal firstborn happens to be twins, the dispute of which one is the one who is the rightful heir to the throne is settled by division of labour: One of them is to become the future queen/king, and the other one is to become the royal jester. One can do whatever they want but must be very careful with what they say, the other can say whatever they want but must be very careful with what they do.
It is not exactly uncommon for the two to fight over which one gets to be the jester. But in the occasion when they agree to take turns on which one sits on the throne and which one at the foot of it (in disguise of course), it's considered polite to at least pretend to not notice the ruse.
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Man i love Yuder and Enon's relationship...

Like Yuder don't act like this – playing the game of the one being hurt, letting himself being somewhat babied – with anyone else! Not even Kishiar ^^ But with Enon, he goes far and beyond not to upset him even though he knows Enon won't really get upset...
With the cavalry, he's the Commander's assistant, the Spirit of the Cavalry, the role model, the superior. Yes, Gakane and Kanna consider him a friend, and I think he does too, to some extent, but there's this... sense of hierarchy in their relationship. At least for me.
With Kishiar, too, there's a bit of a hierarchy: he's his boss, his Commander, a member of the royal family, but even beside all this, someone Yuder admires. And loves. The difference in status is erased by the difference in skills (since even with Kishiar being an extraordinary person, Yuder still has something like 9 years on him being the Cavalry Commander) and by their love to each other. But Yuder still has trouble getting babied by Kishiar (for example: he asks about why Kishiar feeds him a lot of sweets and only learning that it's a way for Kishiar to show his appreciation that he makes the conscious effort to accept it).
But with Enon, there's none of this. Enon is a real tsundere, someone who nags at you while taking care of you. But he's a simple man: he doesn't want Yuder to get hurt and is trying his best to help him uncover the truth about his regression and the cracks. But that's it: he doesn't expect anything else from Yuder (and not from anyone else, btw). No payment, no thank you, nothing. The only thing he wants from Yuder is that he doesn't put his body and soul through hell. And maybe because he's simple to figure out, maybe because he's not that different from past game! Enon... but Yuder is okay to play hurt by having his cheeks pulled. He's okay to head to the infirmary as soon as he wakes up, so Enon doesn't get upset. He's okay with bowing to Enon in gratitude for saving him (even though Enon nags at him for bowing, despite being the one to suggest such action). He's okay to call Enon Big Brother. And i think it's soooo adorable 🥺
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🎻Nathan Zuckerman🎻
I love to think he continued to study violin not only because Kishiar dragged him into It, but maybe because he actually enjoy It 🎶🎵
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kagehina but as viktor and yuuri …
honestly, they seem so different to yuuri and viktor to me so i couldn't decide who would be who lmao but god, i would do anything for them to dance to stammi vicino ......
[send me doodle requests!]
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More Elle and Nippy content 🥺❤️🐱
#elle#nippy#pruelle van tain#nippoleon van tain#one of my fav siblings#turning by kuyu#turning novel
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Fem Haikyuu characters 🤍😚
#hinata shouyou#tsukishima kei#oikawa tooru#sugawara koushi#kageyama tobio#haikyuu boys but make them girls#haikyuu#hq art
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