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Do you think Logan and Hesh ever felt fear during the campaign? Ever felt lost?

Like, sure, throughout the campaign they've had multiple life threathening missions, but only after Elias' death was there truly an all or nothing mindset— where the smallest mistake could determine the outcome of everything.

When the Walker brothers decided that they'd die, just to take Rorke down... Did they feel they had nothing left to loose, so long as both were gone and so was Rorke?

Was that the reason they really gave it their all, pushing through their injuries? They were ready to die and they made sure that Rorke wouldn't survive no matter what (well, we know how that went...)

Just how much weight left their shoulders the moment they survived? The moment they sat on the beach, panting, watching bombs paint the sky?

And how fucking hard did reality sink in at the sight of Rorke, surviving just like them?

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yes ik i keep disappearing... in going thru stuff but I HAD A VISION

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Overseas 🇺🇸

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Pork Soda - Glass Animals as a Elias/Rorke song ⁉

One example: The "Why can't we laugh now like we did then? How come I see you and ache instead?" bit. Both of them more or less expecting to hate each other given they both feel betrayed by the other but instead of anger they're met with heartbreak and it throws them off.

Another one, for fun: "I want you for the world, I want you all the time" and the second line is so clear but I did have to talk to a moot about the first one ( @artdrawsok ) and we came to the agreement that it's pretty much "I'd pick you over the world/I'd trade the world for you" and like.... Gay.

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Fed! Logan who knows Keegan well enough to guess his roosts and teases him through the scope. Just waves or does a finger gun.

Bonus if Keegan doesn't know Logan's ID then, like he has a mask on and they don't know he's out of the pit, so there's just this random Fed who has a heatseeker on him 24/7 and it freaks him out.

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Hehe, random idea but 😋 what if: Ghosts 2 kinda scenario, where Logan holds strong in the pit, and only really breaks/gives up hope when he’s shown irrefutable proof that the Ghosts have taken on new team members. (Which he takes as them replacing him. Bonus points if one of them looks similar to him.)

In reality the only reason the Ghosts took on new members was because they were so low in number after Rorke tore them up that the military was basically like “Get more or you’re gone.” (Meaning they’d dissolve the task force.) because they KNEW how the Federation might use that to hurt Logan.

Hesh especially is VERY upset with it, and picks up a real nasty ‘tude with the newbies as a result. Which I can connect to that other idea I had (Dunno if I shared here.) where he starts paralleling Rorke a bit too hard and this worries people outside the Ghosts so much that they try to take him out to avoid Rorke 2.0.

(Another part of that idea is that Keegan catches on either before or as they attempt to remove Hesh and as a result they also attempt to get rid of him to avoid witnesses/snitching.)

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Logan likes to draw and it’s that “bad” anime style that people have before they power up and start drawing the most mind blowing shit you’ve ever seen and YES his “power up” happens post-pit.

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Been cursed with wanting to draw during trips and I CANNAEEEE save mee

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Hc: Logan was a very colicy baby, cried like 24/7 and drove his parents half mad from it. And David, like every time he asked about it, was obviously told "Oh, it's colic. He'll be okay."

So then, when they're all grown up, whenever Logan cries for any non-serious reason Hesh thinks it's the peak of comedy to go "Oh, he's just got colic. He'll be okay." every. Damn. Time.

Sad cat vid that has Logan sniffling? "Oh, it's colic." (Followed by a shit eating grin.)

Sad romance movie that has him in tears? "Colic."

Steps on a 2x2 lego brick? "Aww, colic acting up Lou?"

Logan of course interchangeably finds it amusing enough to keep him from continuing to tear up/cry or enraging enough to also keep him from continuing to tear up/cry.

He is both pissed and in stitches the first time Hesh makes the colic joke to Keegan and Keegan just nods solemnly and says "Oh yeah. Kick is pretty colicy too."

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TF141 (oversimplified)

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Accidental Werewolf Logan au my beloved.

Hesh takes Leonel (Logan, stuck as a wolf.) to the vet for a general checkup, and is very pleased to tell Leonel (Logan, stuck as a wolf.) that the vet made sure to note "Leonel is a very big boy." on his chart.

Logan (Leonel) is less pleased.

Logan (Leonel) is even less pleased when in "Vet recommendations" the NARC of a vet made sure to put down "Bacon is not good for Leonel."

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Ghosts 2/Remake requirement but also smthn I might make a hc for myself: Hesh getting his face cut the fuck up in the train crash so he has some sick facial scarring PLEASE

It would also increase angst I believe. One, gives another reason (Among being thrown around, drowned, kicked in the face, and downright exhausted) as to why he couldn't do a lot to help Logan when Rorke showed up. Two, imagine he's functionally blind because of all the blood+seawater+tears+sand+etc in his eyes so he can't even really SEE Rorke taking Logan, just the blurry blobs of them getting smaller until he can't make them out.

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Seamless

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https://youtu.be/c43cHJ4z3kA?si=GNWR8CwwcE4MqorY

This has to be a kejax song

Yk that Knuckles meme? The "Aprooved" one? Me rn. Sounds like smthn my oldest sister would listen to and I mean that in the most adoring positive way.

It's a song about missing a loved one of COURSE it's Kejax, any song with that is perfectly them. I do adore the specific vibes with this one tho, veray nice.

I'm ngl the best part of the Kejax for me is the longing and angst because Ajax died. Is it odd? Perhaps. But I enjoy tragedy. (In the distance you hear a rant said many times over by yours truly about how COD Ghosts would be best when viewed/written as a tragedy.)

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Something i think about far too often is a Ghosts bodyswap AU type thing, (at least) one of them (Hesh) is trans so they, at least for a little while, get to live as a cis guy..

It’s worth noting that if they were stealth that would be more anxiety inducing than anything else that somebody knows that they’re trans now when they were trying to keep it secret

Hesh and Rorke swap bodies and the first thought that crosses both of their minds is "If I off myself rn would I actually die and not go back to MY body? Might be worth it." quickly followed by "Wait a minute... HE'S TRANS?" so on top of hating each others guts they also gotta do that nod of mutual understanding and respect. (Yet another way him Rorke are paralleled. /J, but also maybe /Srs.)

Hesh's first concern: Being outed via weird impossible shenanigans. Second concern: Are they (whoever is in his body) actually gonna wear his packer or is his body gonna be missing a dick?

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I saw 'Keegan', 'blue', and 'dress' in the same sentence and immediately ran to pintrest

I love that you were so inspired by my "Keegan loves blue" (Bitches love blue) post that you tapped into your ancient instincts from your hunter gatherer ancestors to bring me a nice crop of inspo pics.

Where are y'all that like a touch femme Keegan? You guys want me to put his ass in a dress? I could. I'm working on smthn rn but theoretically it's possible.

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If there was a Ghosts reboot today, what do you think would be changed? Obviously there would be graphics/programming improvements; I’m thinking more about keeping Logan as a silent protagonist/more sympathetic Federation/rewriting history/etc.

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I agree with you that they'd do graphical improvements and that, but I'm not exactly sure what they would do. I have more ideas for what would be fun for them to do, which range from what I consider fairly realistic to ridiculous.

This is going to get long. "Read More" of mercy upon ye.

Like, I think it would be cool if they added more moments to use Riley. We got so few missions with the boy! I'd love to see more of him. In combat or even on a tracking mission or similar. And I really enjoyed the mechanic of being able to sic him on people.

Along those lines, I think it would be interesting if you could also command the human Ai. Not quite giving orders because you (As Logan) aren't in charge, but just having them cooperate with you like the team you are. "Enemies over there!" kinda thing, so you can guide their attention towards areas you wanna push. Would make playing on harder difficulties not only easier but more satisfying IMO.

More emphasis on the STEALTH part of the Ghosts would also be nice. It does get shown in the game, like during "End of the Line" and especially during "The Hunted" but at some point you always go loud. A mission where you go in and get out without anyone knowing you were there would be awesome.

On the topic of stealth, a mechanic similar to the Assassins creed games where the Enemy Ai slowly catch on that you're there and THEN attack if you suck at sneaking would be interesting. But I wouldn't like it as much if they relaxed entirely and gave the all clear (after a full alert) just because Logan hid in a patch of grass for five seconds. (Or a closet.)

Maybe a dumb idea that wouldn't be executed well but a wave mode which takes place in the hospital Sand Viper took place in (So it's like you're one of the Proto-Ghosts.) where you just fight to see how long you can go would be fun. Extinction still being there would be sick too, just add the wave mode and don't replace the prior.

Story wise, because I've been speaking more mechanics/gameplay shit, I'd enjoy more sibling moments between Logan and Hesh. The moment in the start of Brave New World where Hesh lets Logan sleep in is CRUMBS and I want/need more of that. Aside from them cooperating in field I want to see Hesh worry about Logan and the same in reverse. Have them check on each other. Have them attached at the hip. Have both of them ready to ride or die!

Along the same lines (Again.) more dad moments from Elias. The reason I want this is rather evil... I want him to be so likable it genuinely breaks peoples hearts and traumatizes them when he dies. It hurts already because I get attached to pixels easily but like. I haven't cried. Make me cry.

An actual funeral scene for Elias that isn't Hesh narrating over a dramatic visual please. I love Hesh's tendency for dramatic narration (Which he got from Elias) but I have a limit. Even if it's also a cut scene and not entirely intractable, I think it'd add some more oomph to the clear drama/angst they wanted from Elias's death.

Make Rorke's intelligence more obvious. I feel like it's a part of him that gets missed because people tend to focus on his cruelness and strength but his intelligence is what makes him a real threat. Through the game he is constantly a step ahead, which is obvious in some pats, but less so in others. (Obvious: Federation Day. Less obvious: Birds of Prey/The Hunted. Non obvious: Into the Deep. In all those missions he knew the Ghosts were going to be there and had contingencies. The only time the Ghosts get ahead of Rorke is when Logan and Hesh storm the train. Which I thinks speaks to their skill and his unfamiliarity with them.)

Following the above, I think it'd be neat to have Logan match Rorke in intellect. The sneaky crafty kind of intelligence that'll get you like a knife in the back. Would also be a good way to make said intelligence obvious, if Logan is the one to point it out. The reason he even knows it's there is because he recognizes it. It's familiar.

Give Logan some speaking lines. It's fine if he's still a majority quiet and prefers to let Hesh be his voice but just a few... Let the guy have some agency. And you do have to admit the era of silent COD protagonists is being phased out or is over. A relic from a bygone era...

More of Hesh being a fucking menace, please. Please please please. Begging on my knees. Him going "Checkmate" was the coldest shit ever, and he SCARED/SURPRISED Rorke doing that. I need more of it. (Another example: He just smacks the shit out of a Fed in the Luxor WITH A GUN rather than using it to shoot the guy. Menace behavior.)

Give Logan the ability to use his throwing knife skills more. He does it ONCE in Federation Day and that shit was so clean. MORE.

I actually really enjoy the black/white animated cut scenes between ops more than the ones in (for example) the Modern Warfare games where it's mostly satellite images. They did some pretty cool transitions a few times. Even if Hesh or Elias's narrating annoyed the shit out of me.

GIVE LOGAN A RORKE FILE. Hesh and Elias and MERRICK get one but not my boy??? LET HIM COOK! (I have a soft spot for the Rorke Files, I just think they're neat.)

Make Rorke and Elias gay for each other. Divorced. Toxi old man yaoi in my COD game? Sign me up. (This is the "Ridiculous" end of the ideas spectrum.) I don't care if it's only implied, I'll take ONE line where Elias admits that he and Rorke were closer than a Captain and Lieutenant should be and that's all I need.

Keegan and Ajax also Gae Confirmed please and thank you. I just... I need it. Also don't kill Ajax. I like him and if they do the Confirmed Gae it'd be another case of "Burying Your Gays" and I don't need that. Coma or smthn but no death.

More POC characters. Ajax is the ONE black guy and they kill him. Like are you kidding? Fucking hell. I hc the Walker boys as mixed White/Hispanic, I hc Keegan as Pakistani, Neptune as Korean/American, like c'mon I'm fighting for my life over here. Give me a fucking hand. Jesus.

Make the Ghosts scary. Gimme a mission from the enemies POV (Weather the player knows it or not) where you're just getting hunted in some Insidious-esque bullshit the whole time. Put the "Stalker" back in Ghosts. (Because their official name is STALKER)

I probably have more but I can't remember/think of them at the moment.