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Chiaki being a Blood Player is something I hadn't considered before, but I LOVE THAT IDEA. It honestly helps me pin down a character whose classpect has been alluding me for a hot minute because I just... Never thought to fit her into a Blood aspect. The signs were there and I missed them like a damn fool

I think it's because she's not very extroverted or excitable and that's the only canon basis we have for blood players right now! Both the Vantases are rather talkative and like to insert themselves into others' business, but Chiaki's just chill about bonding with people lmao

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Honestly all the DR protags save Kaede have horrible self esteem. Makoto is just the most emotionally stable tbh of the dudes tbh

God I know right? It almost seems wrong to call any danganronpa character "emotionally stable" but I'd give that award to Makoto if I could

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This is my classpect master post for Danganronpa 2! It's been a while since my post for the first game, mostly because I was stuck on a few characters (it was much harder overall for some reason), but I'm finally done, god bless. I’m hoping to start and finish V3 soon to work on the next classpect post

Hinata Hajime- Page of Hope

-actively exploits and is served possibilities and positivity. Hope was easy for Hajime, because even though he's more of a "realist" than our other hope players, he's a fantastic beacon of encouragement to the people around him. Somehow he just knows the right things to say in order to lift people's spirits. He definitely didn't start out with much hope himself though. He was bitter and futureless, attending the Hope's Peak reserve course as more of a conciliatory prize than anything. But Chiaki bumped into him and gave him the belief that he's not any worse by not having a talent. And later, he was given a huge opportunity to take part in the "hope cultivation plan". There's a lot of self-denial going on with him, trying not to admit to others that he's only in the reserve course and trying to convince himself that he doesn't care that much, which runs rampant in pages and knights.

Kamukura Izuru - Muse of Hope

-passively embodies possibilities and beliefs. On my previous classpect post with the DR1 characters, I said I didn't do the master classes but I've changed my mind. I'm not going to go back and edit my post but I'm definitely sorting Junko as a lord and Izuru as a muse. There's nothing else he could be. Extreme passivity and preoccupation with personal belief and possibilities (what is interesting, what is boring, is there anything I can't do?). He *is* possibilities in that he has so many talents, he can do nearly anything. Also, this just goes to show that no class, aspect, or title is inherently good or bad. Some might be more inclined to, uh, moral confusion, but we all make our own choices.

Owari Akane- Mage of Life

-actively understands and guides energy and growth. Life seems a pretty solid fit for her, as she's basically grown up overcoming obstacles, metaphorically and literally as she does parkour and gymnastics. Her relationship with food is all about energy and not about quality (... she eats crushed flowers after Hiyoko tells her you get more protein when you crush the food). What really sold me on mage though, was her intuition. She's really noted for her accurate gut feelings; she can tell when someone is strong even when they don't look it and I learned after reading her wiki that in the "ultimate talent development plan" she could sense Mukuro and Maki weren't who they appeared to be.

Komaeda Nagito- Bard of Light

-passively destroys information and fortune. A lot of people say he's hope but while that could fit, light fits so much better. His cycle of good luck & bad luck makes sense as he's drawn to luck as a light player but then destroys it as a bard. Most importantly though, the way he wields information like a weapon to confuse and undermine people really solidifies it for me. Somehow, someway, he always knows (or acts like he knows) much more than everyone around him. His dialogue is endless exposition and self-centered but all his information is given to manipulate people and tear them down.

Pekoyama Peko- Knight of Doom

-passively serves systems, restrictions, and suffering. She serves the system she's always known. She is a tool to be wielded by Fuyuhiko and nothing more. Her feelings and desires are pushed down because there's no point in expressing them. She's very good at what she does though, she definitely exploits the rules she adheres by enough to be called an Ultimate. And even though she doesn't express her emotions, it's clear that her suffering has made her empathetic, as she's respectful and one of the few people who holds basic decency towards Nagito.

Kuzuryu Fuyuhiko- Prince of Blood

-actively destroys through relationships and bonds. He's destructive and he acts like it; heir was the only other class I was considering but he's very active and more into intentional destruction than unintentional changes. Obviously he destroys nearly any chance of close relationships with his classmates, but as a yakuza his job is to use his connections to lead, which often involves tearing down other gangs and ties. And finally, he destroys his only real relationship after Peko is executed after he orders her to kill Mahiro.

Hanamura Teruteru- Maid of Rage

-actively creates rage and limitations. I think maid fits well from the start, as he's a cook and that's all about creation. He definitely inspires rage in people, and the doubt and disbelief of rage is very evident in his constant denial of his surroundings. He created a lot of fear and negativity in himself because he wouldn't settle on believing or refusing what was going on- he needed to know the truth and that drove him to acting out. His insistence on being called "chef" and that he's from the city both fuel a sort of self-delusion that seems to be common with rage.

Nanami Chiaki- Rogue of Blood

-passively steals and relocates relationships and bonds. She is very focused on interpersonal relationships, and not just those centered on herself. To some extent, she's able to connect with everyone including reserve course Hajime, and black sheep Nagito. In the game, she's *really* good at redirecting people. If they're focused on arguing with someone, she manages to turn it around for the better, like with Hiyoko's shrine to Mahiru. She also fits the rogue archetype well, as in the anime she was an outcast in the beginning, and- this might just be my opinion- honestly I don't think anyone ever seriously got close to her as well as they did with some of the others.

Tanaka Gundham- Witch of Hope

-actively changes beliefs and possibilities. Honestly, I could see a bit of everything in him. I think witch fits very well with his aesthetic, but it also fits his choices. Witches are highly active but often off doing their own thing instead of cooperating with everyone; he spent more time looking for his earring than investigating for the first trial. Hope very clearly fits the zany belief system he has, but it also fits in other ways. It's not obvious because of his vernacular, but he has a crazy amount of optimism; he gets regular remarks ranging from "politely shunning" to "outright hurtful" and they never seem to seriously bother him. I view his act in chapter 4 as a grand example of changing his classmates' hope.

Sonia Nevermind- Knight of Breath

-passively exploits and serves through freedom and direction. While she is a princess, she definitely does not act like a prince. Instead she considers her title to essentially be a servant to her people. She isn't above them in anything but position, and she needs to direct them to a better future. She is cooperative and helpful to the rest of the class but not in the healer way a sylph would be, more in the useful motivator kind of way. She serves the team by keeping a composed head and encouraging everyone to stay calm and work towards the goal. She expresses the motivation and direction aspects of breath more so than freedom but it still shows in her detachment from everyone else due to her status. She's never really had close bonds before Hope's Peak.

Saionji Hiyoko- Thief of Time

-actively steals time. I went through several different titles for her in between analyzing other characters. She definitely fits the role of thief with a personality comparable to Vriska and Meenah. Dancing is a time activity as you need perfect timing for a routine, and traditional dancing even more so since it's lasted for centuries. Personally, I think because of her upbringing she is not quite acting as she wants to, and is ghosting the knight of space. She wants to be bold and confident, able to take up the time of others and act meaningfully, but she's hesitating; serving others space to keep them away and is pretending she's more capable than she is. She was kept spoiled and helpless growing up which means she developed the personality and drive of a thief, but not the skills needed for one.

Mioda Ibuki- Sylph of Heart

-passively heals emotions and sense of self. To me she is very clearly a heart player. She's very sure who she is and doesn't mind expressing it, and all of her free time events with Hajime are centered around helping him with his identity. She's friendly and gets along with pretty much everyone in some way, including "Byakuya", Mikan, and Hiyoko; all of which are not so easy to hold friendships with. I think it's interesting how much she likes "Byakuya" considering his constant identity crisis and I wonder if she can sort of sense that. She's loud and she stands out, but she's a pretty passive person concerning her actual actions and mostly helps people individually.

Souda Kazuichi- Page of Space

-actively exploits and is served space. I like space for him; I think the creationistic, physically-oriented, free-flowing structure of space suits his nature well. He's more concerned with the journey rather than getting to the perfect end results, as shown by the examples we have of his machines. One of his inventions automatically draws the lines on a soccer field but it had no stopping mechanism and escaped from the school grounds- it was quite a success to him though! He dreams of creating an incredibly fast bike that he can't even ride and he enjoys every step of the process even though it's taking him a while. He has created an intimidating physical persona for himself by dying his hair and wearing contacts to give him a punk look, but others comment that it doesn't quite match his jumpy, anxious personality. This is on-par for pages, who often feel the need for a mask, because he is now served space by strangers due to his appearance.

Koizumi Mahiru- Seer of Space

-passively guides and understands space. I struggled with her a bit as we really don't know much about her. She's kind of plain compared to the other outlandish personalities and she says she doesn't open up to Hajime as much as she would with a girl. Space is about creation, physicality, location, and enjoying the moment. Her interest in photography satisfied all of those especially with how she views it; she captures pictures of people smiling to create a record of the current moment. She's very level headed and is good at seeing the whole ~picture~ (hehe). She's not a very active person but she's quick to give her opinion and advice if she thinks someone is on the wrong track.

Tsumiki Mikan- Bard of Rage

-passively destroys through negativity and limitations. Rage was easy for her; she's surrounded in negativity and it tends to annoy (and occasionally enrage) those around her. It provides a unique contrast with Nagito, as she subverts the usual motive for killing (hope of getting off the island) and kills only for despair. It is, of course, expected for a bard to flip their lid, but she also acts as a bard before remembering her prior life. She does destroy some of the limitations through the first two trials by providing autopsies when the Monokuma files didn't cut it, and she very clearly represses her own rage at her abusers nearly 24/7. I think it's also worth mentioning that on a fictional level, rage and hope both are often associated with a sort of hand-wavey deus ex machina bullshit which I'd say applies to her ability to retrieve the memories of her past life due to the despair disease, even though it didn't work that way for anyone else.

Nidai Nekomaru- Heir of Mind

-passively changes actions and logic. The English translation of his ability is "team manager", but when he explains his skill, he doesn't focus on teams, he focuses on the athlete themself, so "coach" or "trainer" would be more apt I think. And a trainer is focused on changing your actions, getting you to perform better and better. Despite his loud and boisterous personality, he tends to be pretty level headed. He's able to clearly ascertain what each individual athlete needs to improve and create an orderly regiment for them. It took me a while to decide on heir, but it fits better than any other class I feel, as he does inherit the title from Daisuke, a team manager he shared time in the hospital with who later died, and his personality is similar to the other heirs we know in Homestuck.

Ultimate Imposter- Maid of Void

-actively creates nothingness and secrets. I was originally gonna go with heart because of identity issues, but after reading their wiki because I didn't want to rewatch the anime, most of their issues stem from feeling like they don't exist, feeling like nothing, which is spot on for void. Not to mention they need to keep their secret while impersonating someone, and they have to basically create secrets whenever people ask them personal information about whoever they're portraying at the time. They are made of nothingness, with no name, no background, and they create more of it when providing falsities to their classmates. Even without the pun of "made" and "maid", they're a very kind and helpful person no matter who they're posing as.

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Makoto is plenty confident what are you talking about. He is the most confident DR protagonist not counting Kaede

(I'm really sorry for not answering for so long, I didn't realize I actually had an ask until now)

He's very confident in some areas, you're right! He's confident in his morality, in his optimism and he's determined to help people- the strengths of a heart player. But when it comes to who he is, he's often insecure and unsure if he really belongs. He consistently underestimates the impact he has on people even though he's driven to empathize with them. In his very first lines, he describes himself as "hopelessly average" and says he doesn't have anything going for him even when it comes to personality. Like, I know he's in a world of ultimates but that's a rough thing to say 😅

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I caved and made a blog for classpecting even though there's already several. The more the merrier I guess

~General Info~

If you want a quick, clear answer, then this blog probably isn’t the one you should ask as I am incapable of being anything other than intensely thorough 😅

I am more interested in the use of classpect system for things outside of the comic itself, like better understanding yourself and others! So while I may talk about these features, I will not be doing asks related to:

God tier powers & fraymotifs

Lands & denizens (tho I’m okay with personal lands if you’re willing to dm me with more information about yourself)

Lunar sway (same condition as above)

Sburb sessions

Strife specibus & fetch modus

Things I *will* do:

Classpect analysis obviously

Classpecting characters (as long as they have a decent wiki page lmao. Or if it’s an OC, as long as you have plenty of info about them)

Relationship dynamics between classpects

Too much information is always better than too little with me! So don’t worry about being too lengthy or giving too much detail :D

“classpect basics” will be my tag for explaining the system I use and why. So if you’re wondering what exactly my definitions are, I’ll be posting them there.

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Boom, there, final classpect take, forever, final word, this is the 4th time I say this but this is IT.

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You're doing the Lord's work by classpecting Togami as a Prince of Life. Also I would still parse Aoi as a Life player because of her connection to food, the fact she tries to force an incorrect verdict and destroy life in her darkest hour, etc. I think overall optimism is more life/doom coded than hope/rage coded because of the way life and doom players tend to have much more radical shifts in those outlooks. Thats just my interpretation tho :3

Thank youuuu! I definitely didn't think of life for Togami right from the start but it really for him well after I spent some time on it~

And I totally understand life for Aoi; I was see-sawing back and forth for her nearly the whole time. I think ultimately I choose Hope for her because of the intent behind everything she does instead of the actions themselves, if that makes sense. She tried to force a false verdict because she believed they needed to pay, they needed judgement. The hope/rage dichotomy tends to embody philosophical questions like "what is moral truth? If you believe something unquestionably, doesn't that make it right?"

I agree that life & doom tend to have more radical shifts between optimism and pessimism which is actually why I'm going to bring up this question: did Aoi really shift that dramatically? The way I saw it, her breakdown after Sakura's death wasn't out of pessimism, it was the overwhelming faith that maybe with everyone's deaths, Sakura would be at peace. From the outside we know that it's not the right decision, but for Aoi she was completely certain in that belief to the point where she was trying to kill 5 other people and herself. Until the end, Aoi was never under the idea that "everything is meaningless, there's nothing I can do anyway, we're all helpless under fate" which is doom's domain! Neither was she thinking "I'll get over this, we'll do better, we need to help ourselves" which is life's domain.

I know tone can be hard to convey in writing so jsyk I'm not actually arguing in full haha, I just get excited about classpects 😅

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**Touko and Sho are honestly a gross example of DID, enforcing the stereotype that mentally ill people are crazy and violent. But that's a wholly different post, so for this one I'm going to have to ignore that fact. Although I have done research on it, I do not have DID so if you do and you would like to comment about this, please do!

With regards to classpecting, nature vs nuture is one of the commonly debated topics. Are the guardians the same classpect as their alternate kids? Are characters in completely different AUs the same classpect? This question can also apply to people with DID. Does every complete alter have an entirely distinct classpect or would they all be the same? 

My thoughts on this are fairly simple actually. Your aspect is what you are drawn to, what you are most comfortable with. It's inherent and can't be changed, whether you think of that as your genetics or your soul. Your class is how you handle your aspect, how you're able to express it. That's a product of your environment, as it's influenced by your individual desires and roles in life. So, I think one's aspect will be unchanging throughout AUs and throughout people with alters, but class will be dependent on however they experienced their life.

Touko and Sho are heart-bound regardless of their multiplicity status. Both are concerned with emotions and their sense of self. But they learned to express that differently so their classes are different.

This is my classpect master post for Danganronpa 1! I just replayed the game so it’s fresh in my mind, and I tried to keep these fairly short so I cut out some of the smaller details. Feel free to tell me what you like or what you don’t. I will be reblogging with thoughts about Touko and Genocider Sho. Also check out @jinjojess post about the DR1 classpects! I compared a lot of my thoughts with theirs!

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This is my classpect master post for Danganronpa 1! I just replayed the game so it’s fresh in my mind, and I tried to keep these fairly short so I cut out some of the smaller details. Feel free to tell me what you like or what you don’t. I will be reblogging with thoughts about Touko and Genocider Sho. Also check out @jinjojess post about the DR1 classpects! I compared a lot of my thoughts with theirs!

Naegi Makoto - Witch of Heart

-actively manipulates feelings and sense of self. He is not very confident in himself, we know this from the beginning, and I think that manifests as acting as a Seer of Mind pretty often. It gets him pretty far in the trials, but his true talent lies in getting people on his side. Sayaka was into him before she even talked to him, and throughout the game people come to him for help concerning things to do with emotions and sense of self (Touko & Byakuya, Kiyotaka & Mondo twice). Not to mention, he’s labelled “ultimate hope”, which is due to him being able to boost everyone’s spirits (change their mood).

Asahina Aoi - Sylph of Hope

-passively heals positivity, possibilities, and beliefs. I really wanted to go with life for her, but while she’s full of energy, she’s not all that concerned about growth or overcoming obstacles, she just wants things to turn out well and that’s more in the realm of positivity and possibility. When Sakura’s secret was out, Aoi was most concerned with how to get the rest of them to believe her and to believe in Sakura; she needed to heal the group’s faith. She consistently believes in everyone, even though she is frequently disappointed, and the only exception to this is Byakuya and Touko after they insult Sakura. 

Togami Byakuya - Prince of Life

-actively destroys growth and energy. His manner is very, very prince-like, “I’m the best and I can’t understand why no one else sees that”, not to mention he’s basically a literal prince of his family. He’s very quick to shoot people down and destroy their spirit, their energy, and during investigations he’s either no help at all, or antagonistic. All of the life players we’ve seen in HS have been on top of the food chain, the Peixes blood color and Jane’s Crocker corporation, which are both comparable to the Togami family. Before the killing game, he was most concerned with growing stocks, owning businesses, and obtaining knowledge he will use when he is the monarch of his family, which all seem life-like.

Celestia Ludenburg - Heir of Void

-passively changes misfortune and secrets. Originally I had her as light, but she doesn’t really care about information, only keeping secrets. She doesn’t use fortune to her favor, instead she just *is* luckier than the others, i.e. changing everyone else’s misfortune. She’s not actually that active though- she doesn’t do it on purpose and she doesn’t do a lot in general as she prefers to get others to do stuff for her. But she does play into the heiress persona, changing her name to seem like nobility and wanting dozens of servants.

Fujisaki Chihiro - Page of Doom

-actively exploits and is served restrictions and suffering. She is very clearly doom, as she is very empathetic due to her suffering in life, in addition to being a programmer when doom is linked to coding. I really can’t see anything else. Her being a page is also pretty clear- a slow growing class that tends to put up a facade, and is linked to a servant archetype when Alter Ego was basically the team’s servant. Her main desire is to help the rest of them even after her death through the restrictions that Alter Ego has.

Yamada Hifumi - Rogue of Light

-passively steals information and substance. I considered a number of possibilities for him, settling on light first. He has the rambley, self-important dialogue of a light player, he collects information about his interests in anime and fanfiction, and he creates fanfic. While creation isn’t light specific, taking the info and substance from an anime and rehashing it into his own stories sounds like a rogue of light. He is later a servant to Celeste, who feeds him lies and misfortune; he could be called a Page of Void at that point, which is fitting with Celestia’s void aspect.

Ishimaru Kiyotaka - Knight of Time

-passively exploits and serves through time. He’s very strict about time, being on time and using time wisely. Not just for himself though, he wants everyone to hold the same policies he has. He wants to have an environment where everyone is able to give it their all- he wants to exploit the time he has in order to serve everyone. His inversion is Thief of Space, and I think we see this in “Kiyondo Ishida”, as he seems to steal Alter Ego’s creation to add another dimension to himself. And- this is just my opinion- I also think he ghosts his inversion pretty often even before that, due to the impact of the disreputation of his grandfather and his vehement dislike of “geniuses”.

Kirigiri Kyouko - Maid of Mind

-actively creates and heals logic and decisions. She eluded me for a while tbh. I thought light first, but while she focuses on finding the truth, other information isn’t as important, and she doesn’t seem to match any other markers of light. Instead she seems more like Terezi, a mind player who likes law and detective work. Kyouko creates a path of decisions that surround a crime, and she uses logic to help Makoto make the right choices. She is outwardly cold and focuses on controlling her emotions, which makes me suspect she ghosts her inversion as a Bard of Heart due to her lost sense of self.

Kuwata Leon - Rogue of Breath

-passively steals and relocates freedom and direction. I understand him to have only come into himself recently. I think for most of his life he was ghosting as a Page of Blood, getting served bonds and obligations that he didn’t really want but exploiting them so he was free to do things other than study. When he was accepted at Hope’s Peak, he finally took his freedom and decided that he was going to do what he was driven to do, which is pursuing music. Rogue also fits into the outcast archetype of his alternative/punk style of clothes and personality.

Oowada Mondo - Bard of Blood

-passively destroys bonds and obligations. Blood is everything to him, his brother and his gang are most important, and his word and his promises are solid. But his brother died for his recklessness, he lied about it, he killed Chihiro which exposed her secret even though he tried to cover it up, and he broke Taka’s spirit when he died. He destroys the bonds around him passively, without meaning to, and his secret and his act of killing were both fairly out of the blue. No one really expected that of him- certainly not Kiyotaka, and that fits a bard’s MO.

Oogami Sakura - Maid of Blood

-actively creates relationships and bonds. She is defined by her bond to her family and her bond to her destiny. She is devoted to growing stronger, which made me think life, but she’s growing stronger to fulfill her duty and keep the respect of her family, not to overcome obstacles. That aspect though, the desire to help everyone else become stronger too, that’s very maid/sylph. She’s fairly passive, but definitely not passive enough for sylph, and she tends to focus more on creating new bonds especially regarding ones with herself, rather than healing preexisting ones.

Maizono Sayaka - Mage of Void

-actively knows misfortune and secrets. She tells Makoto that she’s known from a young age that she will have to do anything to reach her dreams, and she acts on her understanding of that misfortune which leads to her death. She focuses more on the misfortune and nothingness part of void, acutely understanding that if she falls out of relevancy, she’s done for. She also jokes with Makoto about being a psychic, knowing his unheard thoughts, which plays into the prophet archetype of a Mage, and knowing the unknown.

**Fukawa Touko & Genocider Sho - Page of Heart & Bard of Heart

-actively exploits and is served emotions and self-identity. Touko… has some issues. She is very concerned about herself, who she is, and how she’s perceived, which is the trademark of a heart player. She is actually good at using emotions to get what she wants. She gets people to stay away from her but also be concerned about her at the same time, not to mention she managed to get Byakuya to let her tail him around which I still don’t understand how. She keeps a strong facade up due to her insecurities and necessary caution due to Genocider Sho.

-passively destroys sense of self and emotions. Sho destroys emotions in a literal sense, by killing anyone she “crushes” on, and she destroys Toko’s sense of self through emotions by leaving her to come to at murder scenes, therefore forcing her to stay paranoid and keep a huge secret. Doesn’t really do it intentionally, as Sho tells Makoto that it’s the same thing as a soccer player kicking a ball, it’s just nature.

Hagakure Yasuhiro - Seer of Hope

-passively understands possibilities and beliefs. Even when he’s pessimistic, he’s optimistic by everyone else’s standards. He is always able to see some better possibility… whether it’s true or whether others believe him remains to be seen. He definitely fits the somewhat far-fetched but unshakable beliefs profile that Hope players have. And he’s definitely knowledgeable about his, uh, profession in a way that seers usually are.

Ikusaba Mukuro - Knight of Space

-passively exploits and serves through space. This was a hard one, partly because we don’t see a lot of her, so it’s long; I used a lot of process of elimination and, well, vibes. Space is about physical matter, size and location, creation, and beginnings. At an early age, she ditched her family in Europe in order to join an elite mercenary group in the Middle East. She is extremely proficient in hand-to-hand, melee, and ranged combat, though she admits that she was never good at planning ahead and strategizing. She was also able to accurately portray Junko, the Ultimate Fashionista. Those three things point me towards space, as her past is about location and beginnings, ranged weapons are about distance, planning ahead is about time which is her opposite, and acting as her sister is an act of creation and physicality, not to mention that clothes have a link to the space aspect as well. Most of the classes don’t really fit her, but the little personality she has is devoted to serving her sister, serving her organization before that, and in DR IF, serving Makoto. Knights are also fighters, obviously.

Enoshima Junko - Thief (Lord?) of Rage

-actively steals rage and limitations. Junko is a lot. Just, a lot. I’m actually leaning towards giving her the “Lord” title because honestly, the level of embodiment that she has over the rage aspect is unparalleled. But I just don’t know enough about the master classes for me to feel comfortable enough with that. So I’m going with thief instead. She definitely gets off on everyone else’s despair and sets them up so they have limited possibilities in the killing game. She takes from them and takes from them and leaves them with some hope just to finally steal that too.

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Okay rough plot for the beta session:

I've decided that the adults are actually the betas. Their session sucked really bad because of constant infighting. Tsunade was the default "leader" because no one else was gonna and she was at least trying to win instead of whatever the others were doing. Leader is in quotation marks because it was really anyone's guess whether they'd listen to her. When it became clear that they weren't gonna win, she decided to scratch. Obviously none of them wanted to die but Orochimaru specifically refused to let her scratch unless there was a way he lived through it. After a lot of arguing and possibly violence, they came up with a compromise and a risky plan: Orochimaru would use his abilities as a Prince of Time to rupture the timeline around them, effectively stranding them into the Furthest Ring. Tsunade would then use her abilities as a Knight of Life to keep an atmosphere and to guard them all (Orochimaru didn't care about the rest of them but she and Jiraiya insisted) from the terrors. Jiraiya, as a Mage of Space, would use his abilities to see the next session's location and guide them through the nothingness. Surprisingly enough, the session is scratched and they're all alive. Now commences a roadtrip of indeterminate length with a dozen people who aren't very friendly towards each other. [Shenanigans ensue]

I'm thinking by the time they're in the Ring, the godtiers are: Jiraiya, Orochimaru, Tsunade, Kakashi, Itachi, and Obito.

I'm debating how to age them. Sburb is a coming of age game so they're not actually adults though I call them that for clarity's sake. I guess they don't all actually have to be the exact same age, as in Homestuck proper everyone was months apart and the alpha kids were older when they started. I'm thinking either all 15, or a variety of ages from 17 (the sannin since they're the oldest) to 12 (Itachi is the youngest).

I almost want to start writing an actual fic but I'm not doing it unless I figure out how to make colored chat logs because I feel like they're essential to what I have in mind.

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To like, the 2 people maybe following the Narutostuck stuff, any future posts about it will be on @narutobent because it'll be easier to keep track that way.

@ narutostuck is taken and is used for the HS charas in the Naruto universe instead of the other way around, which is also cool and something I might be interested in later.

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Speaking of Narutostuck, what classpect do you think Madara and Kabuto would fall into? I feel like Void aspect would fit Kabuto very well, maybe Heir of Void given his background. Madara, I'm drawing a bit of a blank on. I love the classpects you've made so far by the way, they're very nice!

Hmm for Kabuto I'm thinking you're either right with Void, or my other thought is Life actually. Void would fit well with all his secrets and hidden info he keeps, but Life would work with his need to be better and keep growing along with his skill in healing.

My first guess would be Thief of Life. Thieves are pretty self-serving and scheming which would account for the secrets and info-gathering and Life accounts for his desire to keep getting stronger and change who he is. (And I like the symbolism of him used healing techniques to steal lives). My second guess would be Heir of Void, Heirs are a changing class that tend to become vessels for their aspect, allowing it to guide them. So as an Heir of Void he would seek to change secrets and misinformation while staying on the sidelines and the shadows. That one rings true especially for his identity crisis- his own past is a secret so *he* is a secret.

Madara is a harder one yeah, but now that I'm thinking about it, he seems very focused on his relationships. His family, his clan, with Hashirama, with the village. So I think Blood is a good fit. I'm not gonna lie, I didn't pay as much attention to his generation so if my details are wrong or lacking, my bad.

Now as I was thinking about classes, none of them really stood out to me but I was still leaning towards Blood and when that happens I usually start thinking about inversion. So maybe Breath would fit him better. A Prince of Breath perhaps? Someone who destroys freedoms and drive? His bonds were very important to him, maybe he made sure Izuna was alright by limiting his freedom, where he could go and when he could fight. His choice to accept Hashirama's idea of Konoha was maybe the ultimate move to limit his clans freedom. All Uchiha afterwards were confined to a certain sector of Konoha.

Thank you so much! I honestly didn't think anyone would even see that post so I'm super glad you enjoyed it, and I'm glad I had an excuse to keep thinking about character's aspects 😅

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And for the "alphas" I was deciding which 12 to use because just doing everyone's parents would be boring, so I did a mix of very important adults and adults that are important to the dynamic of the group. I just wanna point out that this group was basically doomed from the start with Jiraiya and Orochimaru being the space and time players tbh.

Jiraiya- Mage of Space

-actively knows mass and distance. He's the frog man!! He has to be space! Other than that, his proclivity towards sealing is a very space/time thing to me. Learning how to fit the mass of a bijuu into a human... That's some space fuckery. He also makes space for himself from Konoha, leaving to travel the world instead and learn all he can as a spymaster, which is in line with mages.

Orochimaru- Prince of Time

-actively destroys time. Time is about aging and the slow but certain death of all things. Who would want immortality more than a prince of time? He is also into sealing which as I said above, is a very space/time thing to me, as he uses seals to undo death and switch bodies. He acts rather princely too; all the other princess we've seen have a certain air of condescension to them.

Tsunade- Knight of Life

-passively serves healing and growth to people. So Tsunade was bound to be either a healing class or life because she's a medic at heart, but the way she goes about it is more warrior-like so I didn't think she has the temperament of the classes. But she cares about her team and her people and wants to protect them, so knight and life.

Kakashi- Maid of Doom

-actively creates restrictions and suffering. Rough title but y'all. This dude has gone through so much, and very young too. I think moreso than anyone else it's just tragedy after tragedy for Kakashi. So I had him as doom from the start, but the reason I picked maid is because though he doesn't always, like, make his own suffering, he still tends to wallow in it and magnify it (memorial stone visits, failing every team, not really teaching his actual team), and he did have an active part in creating some of it (Obito, Wave mission, Sasuke but maybe not). He's just "made of doom" man.

Asuma- Seer of Breath

-passively knows the motivation and drive of people. I think Asuma is a good candidate for breath because our first major interaction with him as an actual person is showing off his wind affinity, and because even though he was the Hokage's son, he went off to do what he wanted without being tied down to Konoha. As for seer, he seemed like more of the laid back and support from the back kinds of people so that cut down a number of classes, and he was able to connect with all his genin differently by knowing what motivates them.

Kurenai- Witch of Mind

-actively changes the actions and logic of people. The purpose of genjutsu is to make someone act in a different way than they would otherwise. Either by convincing them they're taking the right path when they're not, or keeping them in place with fearful illusions. This deals with the mind as the most successful illusions are ones with tailor made details about the person to make it more believable or terrifying.

Gai- Rogue of Heart

-passively steals and moves the emotions and passions of others. (Insert joke about him stealing hearts) I knew Gai was heart from the beginning: someone who takes three traumatized orphans and teaches them to trust each other, not to mention someone who can be besties with Kakashi is someone special. Someone who can connect to the passions of people. And Gai is nothing if not passionate. As for the rogue part, I had some trouble pinning his class, but he is someone who spreads around positivity and uses other people's excitement to further encourage his team.

Itachi- Bard of Blood

-passively destroys the relationships and bonds of people. Well I think this one is fairly cut and dry. Not only did he destroy both his and Sasuke's bonds with the genocide, he made sure to specifically traumatize Sasuke as to prevent any more from forming. Bards are also the wildcards and no one saw the Uchiha Massacre coming except those already in the know.

Tenzo- Thief of Void

-actively steals secrets and misfortunes. I figured with his Root background, void was a nice fit for Tenzo since he basically comes from nothingness and secrets. His later work as Anbu was about sticking to either shadows or a ruse and gathering (stealing) intel. And the reappearance of the Shodaime's mokuton certainly came from nothing according to the local population, like Tenzo stole his genes.

Obito- Page of Hope

-actively serves people with belief and options. Pages start off with nothing and grow to enormous power which describes Obito as he was the outsider of his family and ended up being incredibly powerful. He is so set on his beliefs and his views on things that it blinds him to other things which sounds like another page of hope we know.

Anko- Heir of Rage

-passively changes rage and limitations. Obviously Anko is a very angry character, but more than that, she inherited the clear limitation of the cursed seal from Orochimaru. That didn't stop her though and through sheer spite she got powerful enough to be a feared jounin. She effectively wields fear in order to limit her opponents (or her exam students) options.

Iruka- Sylph of Light

-passively creates and heals information and fortune. Iruka is a school teacher and seems very content with it, so it's easy to peg him as someone who teaches (heals) information to the village kids. He also severely helped Naruto and increased his chances (fortune) in the beginning.

I really like Homestuck and I really like Naruto and I really like classpecting so here’s my headcannons. I could talk about classpecting for hours so hit me up if you disagree with anything or want me to expand on something.

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I really like Homestuck and I really like Naruto and I really like classpecting so here's my headcannons. I could talk about classpecting for hours so hit me up if you disagree with anything or want me to expand on something.

Naruto- Maid of Hope

-actively creates hope and positivity, opening up new pathways in people by believing in them (I mean,, "believe it!" with hope being about belief... Almost too easy). Naruto is so about bluntly forcing people to fix their hopes and dreams so like.

Sasuke- Thief of Breath

-actively steals people's freedom and drive. Sasuke being a hero of breath really makes sense to me because he's always been very driven to be free and make his own way, not wanting to be bound to anywhere. Though he piggybacks on other people and their motivations to help him along (Naruto's drive during Haku's fight, Kakashi's lightening technique used for Sasuke's own purposes, Orochimaru's everything and he even stole his life (metaphorically, breath) at the end).

Sakura- Page of Rage

-actively serves people rage and limitations. Pages start very wimpy and grow to be powerhouses- Sakura learned to come into her strength and use her anger to smack the shit outta anyone who tries to mess with her (and the fandom is very divided over Sakura which particularly makes sense with a rage character).

Shikamaru- Mage of Mind

-actively knows people's decisions and logic and uses that to make plans for everyone. He's very good at predicting people's next move even with little information, but he's also in the field a lot so I think this is a good fit. Later he's the Hokage's advisor which is a more active role in planning.

Ino- Rogue of Light

-passively steals and relocates information and fortune. I've seen a lot of people use mind for Ino but that doesn't make a lot of sense with the actual meaning of aspects. What does make sense is her using a lot of reconnaissance and subtlety to get information back to her friends.

Choji- Heir of Space

-passively changes the size and location of things. Choji doesn't have a lot of characterization tbh, but his main jutsu is making himself bigger, sort of like inheriting mass. Yes, maybe this is a stretch (pun intended?) but I really see him as a hero of space nonetheless.

Hinata- Seer of Heart

-passively knows people's emotions and desires. Hinata deserved a lot more than what she was written as, so going on the assumption that she has an actual character arc and doesn't just stay a stalker fangirl, she's very compassionate and seems to understand people very well. She even tries to understand Neji during the exams (and the seer class goes well with having byakugan).

Shino- Sylph of Void

-passively heals and creates secrets and misfortune. We don't know a lot about Shino but I'm into insects so he's one of my favs and gets extra headcannons. There's a lot of mystery around him so void fits well, but he's also in a position to gather secrets with how stealthy his bugs are. I really headcannon him being good with medical jutsu if he'd try learning it (read a really cool fanfic with it), and he definitely keeps his secrets so sylph.

Kiba- Knight of Life

-passively serves people growth and energy. He's very energetic and the jokester of the team. He also is very much a team player like all the cannon knights are, desiring to help everyone else. Gonna be honest, I'm going off of vibes for assigning Kiba the life aspect but he does grow a lot (and Akamaru grows A LOT) in maturity too, which fits life's theme.

Neji- Prince of Blood

-actively destroys relationships and connections. So obviously, early Neji is angry and lashing out at people, destroying his own relationships, but afterwards he focuses it on enemies, and if the series was true to itself it would've had him and Naruto dismantle the Hyuuga system (destroying those relationships to make way for new ones).

Rock Lee- Bard of Doom

-passively destroys restrictions and suffering... Okay hear me out on this. I know everyone gives Lee super happy aspects like hope but the dude is surrounded by unfortunate situations- he just,, blows through them. So I say he's a bard (the wildcard, people take him for granted but he's one of the strongest) because he destroyed the limitations placed on him saying that he couldn't be a ninja and helps people do the same.

Tenten- Witch of Time

-actively changes time. Short and to the point, but does it really fit Tenten? She's a very active person and seeks to change her circumstances and people's opinions of her (we dunno much about her life but she doesn't seem to have a great one) so I think witch fits. And her way of using scrolls and the barrages of weapons utilizes a very good sense of timing. Time is a rough aspect outside of a fantasy setting because time travel is usually involved... Either way, I can see her personality mixing with the witches we know and the heroes of time we know so I'm going for it.