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I mean, I know that rage. Like your burning red eyes are the only outlet for unquenchable fire. I have ranted and railed so much lately, that it seems like all I do is take issue with the books and the story. I think you are right of course, so much potential laid by the way side. I feel the disconnect you are talking about, but it’s not the story that is disconnected with itself, it is me, and my character. I feel like I have been written out of every decision, and every moment. Ms. Roux expressed that she did not know the Lore, or what some things were for. Like the vial of blood she has Nathanos Crush, I am pretty sure, that was her phylactery. like she does not know what any fantasy Lore entails. the Vial of blood was found on the body of the lich king. using vials of blood as a hearth stone makes no sense. I think it was her Phylactery. What I think does not matter, even though I know how Liches work, and how the Lore of the game has been played out over 15 years and I have a very real invested stake in what happens, because this is 15 years of my life I will never get back. I think Ms. Roux is a wonderful writer, she was very vivid with her descriptions and I am sure she is no small Talent, but maybe she should have picked up and read a few books before writing a lore Book. Also, I am a Loyalist, as I am sure you are well aware, and our Very Existence has been Written right the Flag out of our own story. Poof! gone, deleted, just like Mr. Afrasiabi Promised they would be, in his interview. I get it, no really I get, that with some things their hands are tied. I understand that there is a 300 person team probably in charge of the story, and everyone has a hand in the story, and everyone has their characters they write for. Like, clearly, Ms. Roux is a Thrall Fan. While Ms. Golden leans more to Anduin’s side than anything else. I Can Understand having your favorites you want to play with, to write for. My Favorite is not their favorite, and that is fine! but I am a Fan of WoW, and my Favorite should not be tainted by their views on her, as fans of the Alliance. I do not think Thrall is an Orc! he was raised by humans, I hope his mother gets hold of him in Shadowlands and slaps the ever loving piss out of him for it. I recognize that will never happen. All I can think, is that there is Alliance writers running the show! why are the Alliance Writers running the show for the Horde? why have our heroes become villains or Alliance members? I am sick of it. So much rage. I Get it. and the Disconnect, I understand! I have nothing really to say, except you are not Alone, that you are not by yourself in these feelings, and I am here to listen to you rant, so that it is not into the void. I am hoping they come to their senses. that this will be a dream we wake from, a Nightmare brought on by battling for our very souls against N’zoth. Maybe we are still in the grasp of Xe’ra from Legion. this is a Fever dream we will all wake up from, with Chromie saying, “There There now, looks like some one is finally coming to, after having stepped through my time loop machine one too many times.” and Teldrassil and Lordaron will be as they were, and Vol’jin will be alive, and the Dark Lady will be in the Royal Quarter and everything will be just fine. Fingers crossed for that! anyhow, feel free to rant at me any time. I am here to listen.
Whenever I read Before the Storm now, I feel like it’s an AU or a spin-off—a distant plot from all that is happening now. I feel like I was lied to and sold a ticket for a train that was heading somewhere we didn’t end up going. It honestly feels that way. So many threads were woven and then... abandoned.
And I know that it’s not true. None of those threads are abandoned. I know it in my mind. They couldn’t have possibly written this book to be a prequel for BfA if it wasn’t supposed meant to mean something. I am also aware that it’s just the curse of a story that’s being told partly with a videogame where expansions last two years and you’re likely to get an answer or “the whole picture” in like six years from the start of any “thread” but my GOODNESS—it has been the most painful two/three years of my entire WoW run. We got zero answers. For two years. We got cryptic bullshit. A load of cryptic bullshit clues scattered across different formats that we have to somehow piece together to try and MAKE SENSE OF. And heaven forbid you forget the details because years upon years to resolve a narrative arc will do that to an old ass brain like mine. I mean I couldn’t even remember this fucking thing:

This here. It sounded like a “this is my end game and not my end game with my padrino the Jailer.”
I don’t know. I don’t know. I just... I don’t know.
I woke up angry. It’s like all the rage and despair that I piled up tumbled down. Like when you stuff a closet full of shit because guests are coming over and you forgot to lock the closet so SOMEHOW it popped out when the guests walked by. Exposing all the shit you failed to clean properly before they arrived.
I know I don’t have the whole picture and that’s half of this torment. I know in a few hours, I’ll gain my wits... but, I woke up with this disgust for the Jailer. It’s not that I blame him. It’s not that I am faulting him. At the end of the day all of this is Blizz and their narrative decisions but... I can’t forget Azshara.
They already fucked up Azshara for me. So much hype with her Warbringers. I waited YEARS FOR HER LIKE A GROOM AT THE ALTAR. Such a great, epic, fantastic, and wonderful character—with so much to give ON HER OWN—but she got 15 minutes of limelight and then, BOOM! Focus camera on N’Zoth. I didn’t give a single FUCK about that bitch. I wanted AZSHARA. Her story. Her plans. All she had worked for, all of that potential and greatness... TOSSED ASIDE... for an old god whose story and resolution was just as stupidly anticlimactic. You threw away Azshara and then you don’t even N’Zoth a proper finale? (And I’m not talking about the raid; I think it was cool to have our hero be the final blow for once!)
I will resent. With everything in my soul. If they do the same to Sylvanas. Like. Burning resentment. There is so much she could be, just on her own. Regardless of whether Blizzard wants to take her down a good or bad path, Sylvanas has all the potential on her own. I feel... and this is irrational because they CLAIM to be people who plan expansions years in advanced... but it feels that this Jailer asshole was just made to PACIFY the people who are “tired of Sylvanas.” Like my irrational brain screams he was not planned from long ago, but tossed into the salad bowl last minute so that the dude bros who can’t stand a powerful woman dominating the story for yet ANOTHER EXPANSION could be happy. Oh boy, yes. I feel it. The rage has taken over. This is me venting. This just. I need to vent. I’m... I hate that I have to refer to these books for (INSERT PURPOSES), I really do. They just make me so angry. I weep at all the lost potentials. The could have been’s.
Right now. Irrationality is at 700%.
How in the world is BtS even related to anything, and much less Shadows Rising. How? One feels like this canon AU or spin off and the other like... a fanfiction. And I don’t mean either as an insult because these two women are excellent writers and I know they had a script to follow. I also fucking love all AUs and fanfics. Like I would pay MONEY for any kind of spin off, but seriously what the fuck? Why do I feel so disconnected?
And you know what’s the worst? I get this same vibe with webcomics. You read a series for years and the pacing sometimes feels so disconnected and bad when you have to wait for updates and hiatus and all the vacations (which are more than deserved) but once the series is over and you read it in one go, it all makes sense and you realize the pacing is so fucking good. Like, I can’t even HOPE for that with WoW. It’s not going to feel connected, ever. And that’s simply because their story is told through various sources. I can’t sit down and read something once completed. I can try to play the game and then read the books or short stories or whatever else and play some more to try and have a cohesive story but...
I just need to go meditate.
Need to calm. Remember it’s all fiction. It’s a game. I should never expect much. Think of all the games. All the disappointment. Think of all the money you have spent on mobile games that you later don’t play and how it far exceeds your sub for 15 years and you’re still okay. Stupid. But okay. I mean. You enjoyed your time. So who cares if it cost money? WoW is ditto. You had fun. You loved it while it was good. You had a good run. You can’t always be happy with it. Things will be fine. Think of the pets you will tame. Think of...
Alpacas. So many alpacas. Just count all of them. All the variations you will be able to tame. Think of the owl kin. The mini owl kin pets. Go back to the time it was all gameplay and enjoyment of class mechanics. Shadow priests won’t suck ass anymore. Rejoice in that. No more disc leveling. Okay. Go now. Go forth and calmify.
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Listen, I am all for a dark path, and not every ending needs to be a happy one. this is not a Disney shaped world, I get it! but, can we just not destroy a character, or multiple characters that have no reason to go down the road of absolutely villain? how about a woman, who does not go absolutely batshit with every single ounce of power she acquires?
not gonna lie, a lot of writers just seem down right spiteful these days. oh, you loved this character? you got attached to them after several seasons/movies/books following their journey? you believed us when we told you they were the hero? well you were wrong and they’re actually evil human beings who eat puppies and you’re stupid for not noticing.
like, can you people actually just. write actual endings not spiteful repudiations of their fans
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Sylvanas Loyalists still Exist
I Would like to Preface this with the understanding, that this is my reply to Blizzwatch. I am a 16 year fan of WoW, and I have been playing since Vanilla. I have played both sides, Horde and Alliance. I know a Crunk ton of Lore, and I have some pretty strong opinions about in game events, and Lore Characters. if you are an Alliance player, this rant, is not for you. if you are a Horde Member, who likes Thrall, and the current state of Alliance Boot licking, this Rant is not for you. save yourself the pain, read something that will give you happy thoughts! go Read Ms. Roux’s new book, she is a wonderful writer. I support there being Writers who are good at what they do. if you want something a little more informed Lore wise, by all means go pick up a Kristy Golden book, I recommend Arthas or Warcrimes! both Excellent reads! Lore lovely, and thick with understanding of the world. Horde and alliance friendly!
Now, for those of you who are My Loyalist Brothers and Sisters! Please, join me! let me know what you think about My thoughts! do you feel the same? if not, then why? what am I missing? what do you think the ending should look like? I am just fed up, with being told I do not exist. I am fed up with the Alliance! I am fed up with the Horde leaders who should not be in power to begin with. I am sick to death of people who do not know the Lore having their say about what happens.
I am sick to death of the Hypocrisy of the Alliance, of their Self Righteous Arrogant demented thoughts on what is right and wrong, and their trying to impose it on other races and cultures! I am tired of their Xenophobic bigotry, and their ham handed claim to being the “Good guys” which is utter nonsense.
I am sick to death of Thrall, who abandoned the Horde, leading the Horde, and being put in power, or putting in power, the leaders of the Faction he abandond to Garrosh. I am sick of Alliance Members being put in charge of the Horde Quests, like Valeera Sanguinar, or Baine Bloodhoof, or Thrall. Because, let’s face it, these people are Alliance Members.
I am sick of Leaders who have done eff all to help their people or heal the wounds their people have suffered under Alliance hands. Like Lortharmar, and Talanji, and Gaeyra!
I am sick to death of Calia Menethil who may as well be Alliance, and Lillian Voss who was never a Forsaken to begin with. Both of whom Refused any responsibility for their people, and Fellow undead, until it suited them to do so. Calia was capable of treating with the Alliance on her people’s behalf, she could have come forward at any moment before, as the living heir to Lordaron and told Anduin, or Varrian to leave Lordaron to those who belonged there, the Forsaken. to let them alone, or invite them back into the Alliance. She does none of this! instead she starts an insurrection on a field that is supposed to be peaceful, and gets people Killed, who were innocent of crimes, she basically forced upon them. Voss, she wanted nothing to do with the Forsaken, wanted not to be a part of the Horde, did not want to Serve Sylvanas, and basically tells everyone to leave her alone to kill Scarlet Crusaders. Which we do. She becomes Neutral in WoD, and can be conscripted by Horde or, wait for it, Alliance! Basically an Alliance Member. So, how is she leading the Forsaken? Neither of these women should be in charge of the Forsaken, even if Sylvanas never returns!
I am pretty much done, with all of it. there needs to be some serious fixes to the way things are going. Sylvanas was right, the Horde is nothing! because it pretty much does not exist with the Roster we have going for the leaders here. I want my warchief back. I am not foolish enough to think that is possible, however. I want Sylvanas in charge of the Forsaken as she always has been, not that I think that will be a thing. So maybe, there is a third option! Maybe, there is a way to go to a totally new side, and have Sylvanas be it’s leader. it could be done!
I am not foolish enough to think Blizzard will listen to my ramblings. I do not think I have a snowballs chance in hell, of ever getting them to listen. I think though, this will probably be my last Horrah. I think this will be the Last expansion I play in, since they have forced me into a corner, where the Game, and it’s Lore is no longer fun for me. There is new stuff I Like, but none of it has to do with my Faction or my supposed leaders. none of it has anything to do with my character as she has been. it all has to do with the Shadowlands, and when they go away, I am concerned that my joy for the game will go with them.
“No. Nathanos is not tied to Sylvanas, and no, they really have not been trying to please anyone but alliance Sympathizers. Not that I have seen at least. If there is more, in the Shadowlands, to prove we are about to get something wonderful in the story, then great! At this point, I do not think there is any appeasing the Majority of Forsaken players, who want Sylvanas back. None of those I know Like Calia, or Lillian, at this point, they are all of the Forsaken I know, and including myself angry about how the story has played out, and the Forced take over of the Forsaken and indeed of the Horde by the Alliance and those who would be friends to the Alliance. when you talk about the "Faction" of blight Loving Forsaken, you are talking about the Majority. When you are talking about the Traitors, you are talking about 1 in 100 maybe, because I have not come across these Alliance loving Forsaken in my 16 years of playing WoW. I am pretty ticked there is no mention of the Loyalists, as we still exist. We did not just go away, and we are not about to stop following Sylvanas. Those Forsaken who ran to the Alliance Side in Before the Storm, they were Traitors, and those who returned immediately as instructed before this meeting, they lived. Calia's Presence got those all who did not make it back in time Killed. The Sister of her Abuser on the Field shows just how dumb Anduin is. She should have been in the chapel and stayed there if she wanted to come. Traitors deserve a Traitor's Death. Like Saurfang and the Forsaken who died before him, they owed their Loyalty to Sylvanas. the Forsaken more so, because they were given the choice to follow her, return to undeath, or go about their merry way, so long as they did not directly appose Sylvanas and the Forsaken. Lillian Voss, was one such undead, who was raised, who went her own way. she did not swear Fealty to Sylvanas, and she continued to live in undeath unscathed by Sylvanas. Derrick Proudmoore, was a weapon, against the Alliance, who are our enemies. Who committed more atrocities, than Garrosh and Sylvanas combined. Teldrassil was deserved. Baine, who owed his loyalty to his warchief and his people, Killed Horde members to free the weapon, and give it to the enemy. Sylvanas did not kill or oust any Horde member, In fact she was more inclusive in her decision making than Thrall even was. Saurfang not only defects to the Alliance, he murders Horde Members in Swamp of Sorrow, and Causes insurrection against his Warchief, who he owed his Allegiance to. Any of those who Followed the Quest line know, that as Loyalists, Sylvanas has no dastardly plan. She tells you to go along, to stay out of it, that what ever happens happens, she at one point wants you to let Baine go, as part of her plan. She never mentions burning thunder Bluff, Thrall is the one who suggests this. She never says she is going to Execute Baine, though she should, she never says that is what she is doing. In fact, Thrall and Saurfang murder more Horde members when they Free Baine, who is blatantly a Traitor. Baine who hands a weapon back to our enemy, the same exact enemy who murders the King of our new Allies, the Father of Talanji, in his home. He had not attacked the Alliance, he was not a part of the Horde at the time, and Jaina and Genn break into his Castle and murder him along with many of his people. Sylvanas makes a deal with one of the Ruling houses of Kultiras, She makes a Deal, instead of bust up into the Alliance aligned Capital City of Kultiras and Murder Kathrine Proudmoore. Who at this point, is an Alliance Supporter. Jaina Proudmoore is an Alliance Supporter, and She becomes Lord Admiral. Then, the Dark Lady sends us to Azshara. We both Free and kill Nzoth because of the Dark Lady. Nathanos Delivers the Blade that is used to weaken Nzoth. She is Directly responsible for Nzoth's downfall. Lortharmar, pissy that he mussed his hair on the way down, not only decides to turn traitor, but then Works with and Befriends, the woman who Murdered his people in Dalaran with her own hands, who kicked families from their thousands of year old home, imprisoned them, or killed them, if they refused to leave their homes. She flat out tries to Execute Romath, Lortharmars closest friend, and then she murders the King of our new Allies, and the Father of Talanji, but Lortharmar sides with her. Baine Sides with her. Saurfang sides with the Alliance. Traitors, ALL. We are expected to Just, accept the Alliance puppets as leaders? The Traitors, who ousted the woman who was responsible for our Survival on the broken shore, for our survival on Dark Shore, as we followed Saurfang's plan. She was the reason for our Survival in Icecrown, through the pit of Sauron and the Halls of reflection. She is responsible for weakening Arthas, and his death. she is Responsible for being the first on the shore to fight against Garrosh forces in Siege of Org. She won the Battle of Androhal, and the Fight for Gilneas! Maybe sometimes using questionable tactics, but she won them for the Horde. she Fought on the front lines in all of these! at the Broken shore, who was first to touch down for the Horde? Who was it who used her most Precious Resource to pull all the Horde out, and Save their lives as we were clearly about to fall? Who was the one, who sailed our Ship, the only one, back to Org, Herself? the ship, You the player wake up on, the only one in the Harbor? Sylvanas, saved our lives, time and time again. Through the expansions, she has fought on the front lines. She is the single most effective Military tactician the Horde, or Alliance has ever seen, and has personally saved the lives of ALL of these Traitors, and they still, chose to help our Hated enemy, the Alliance. The Self Righteous Alliance, who do not even know the Significance of the phrase, Loktar Ogar! Who disrespect the Mak'gora. Who think they have the moratorium on honor, on Loyalty, on the freedom of choice. They presume to dictate what the Horde should and should not do. What Resources the Horde is aloud to have. Where the Horde is aloud to go. Who the Horde can Allie with. None of that is up to the Alliance. They do not have the moral high ground. Sylvanas won the Mak'gora. Saurfang said of Garrosh, that he would see him forgiven, if he won a Mak'gora against Saurfang. Sylvanas won! Even though Saurfang cheats. She wins. She is Still Warchief! Traitors. Then what happens? The Alliance is let into Orgrimar! by who? by the very people who owe the MOST to Sylvanas, those who she rules over and cares for the most, the ones, who's lives she saved, the ones who she gave a home to! the ones who she fought to get Justice for. the ones she saved from Garrosh war machine, that would have seen them spent to the Last. The Forsaken betray their Queen, and let the Traitors and Alliance into Orgrimar. The Horde Loses the War, because of Traitors, and Deus ex Machina. By Plot armor, and Stupidity on the part of the other Horde "Leaders". Traitors. I am a Loyalist, obviously. I followed Sylvanas away, when the Alliance entered the City, and now, I have been told, I do not exist. That I am not a Loyalist, that all of them were murdered by Thrall, or imprisoned. Thrall says this himself. Thrall who would have died on the broken shore, if not for Sylvanas. Nathanos, owes his very Sanity to the Dark Lady, and if he does turn on her, there is no saving this story. That means, that I am the Most Loyal, that my fellow Loyalists, who Still would serve the Dark Lady given the Chance, really Are, the MOST Loyal. She was right, the Horde is nothing, not anymore. The only Leaders at this point I do not actively hate, or I do not think are Traitors, are Kiro, and Gazlow. That makes me absolutely Sick. Talanji has forgiven the Traitors? who sided with the Alliance, who Murdered her Father? Great. The Horde is nothing. none of them would know what Honor was if it bet them in the face. there has been no concession made to those who like Nathanos. there has been no attempt thus far to try and bring the Loyalists back into the fold. Or Punish us! Either way, it tells me they think I do not exist. The Champion of Azeroth, does not exist. Along with all my Brothers and Sisters, who are STILL Loyal. So, please, do not try to tell me, that they want to show or serve all sides a decent answer. Because My side has not even been considered in the story thus far. It is an impossible task to please everyone. I do not want to be Alliance, The war is not over for me, as with Most Veterans of war. There is no healing to be done for my character, and her story, because the Alliance has not payed for their hand in so many Atrocities. No one has been put on Trial, on the Alliance Side, and All of them are guilty at this point. They are Hypocrites all of them. Baine deserved punished for his Betrayal, Thrall, and Lortharmar, and the rest, with him. At the very least, they should no longer be aloud to serve as leaders of their Races. They should not be representing the Horde in ANY capacity. They do not belong ruling over the Horde on a Counsel. At the Very Least! I think Baine Deserves execution for his hand in all this. Thrall, does not belong in the Horde anymore. He abandoned the Horde to the hands of Garrosh, and he put Gallywix in power over the player Character after you free him from Gallywix and the Alliance, and help Aggra. The Alliance who fired on a ship, because they did not want there to be witnesses to their capture of Thrall. Who fired on a Ship, full of the LAST of the Kezzan Goblins. Genocide, right? and Gallywix, tries to enslave all of us, and only is fought off by the player, and Thrall, and Thrall puts him in charge of the Goblins. Thanks Thrall, you absolute Jerk. Like I said, zero room for the Alliance to be the Moral police here. I realize this rant has kind of gone on, but it has been building for a long while. There has been a Grievous Wrong done to my faction, to my favorite Lore character, to My Warchief, and to my player Agency. I am still hoping Blizz fixes this. If not, this will be the last time I play a WoW expansion. I am not apposed to a good wrap up to the story, so do not get me wrong. I am not apposed even to Sylvanas Death, but it better be well done. If Tyrande runs up at the last moment and Kills Sylvanas, or we are forced to kill her, or Thrall steps in again! I will not be forgiving. Nathanos betraying her, not going to have me forgive anyone either. I honestly do not know what the answer is here. I have my ideas on how I would like the Shadowlands to end. both with Sylvanas living, and with her Dying. So there is a chance! there is a chance they can pull it out of the fire, but it is a Slim one. I will say this, the new Alliance leaders, gives me hope there could be new leaders for the Horde! Leaders who are not wrapped up in 16 years of blood. I Like Shandris! I Liked the Gnome you get to play through BFA with, Steelspark? she was awesome! Keshan?! great! Flynn, Great! Lorna Crowly, and Taelia Fordragon! Great! now just do this for the Horde. Kiro and Gazlow! Wonderful! Nisha! she is awesome. Lady Liadrin, I might be ok with her taking over for Lortharmar, maybe. Guess we will see. “
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