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Guys I put Simon’s dad was English when this is simply not true

His dad is Indian and I messed up and put the wrong nationality 💔💔

Random lotf headcannons bcs im bored (i actually wrote lotf so consider it cannon)

Spoilers for lotf btw

Guys…as much as I want Piggy to be from Blackpool (and he truly is in my heart…) he is actually Cockney and I need to come to terms with it…Plus he’s the only one that’s not upper class/upper-middle class, his family is working class.

When Ralph grows up he manages and owns stables because during the island one of his ways of escaping reality was day dreaming about his horse in Devon or something and he struggles with major trust issues and social anxiety after the island. He’s a very isolated man. An isolated man that really loves horsies. I don’t think he marries or has children tbh.

In a modern, secondary school au Roger would have a mullet…

Sam and Eric went from being very co-dependent to not talking to each other much as they grow up. Because they were basically viewed as the same person in a way, always joined together and eventually just referred to as Sam n’ Eric without having their names separated or smthn in the end, they were at first joined at the hip, but, when they became teenagers they began to want to differentiate themselves because they were sort of sick as being treated like they were the same person which lead to them drifting apart..or something.

Jack was at first pushed into being a choir boy by his parents but eventually used the fact he was basically the leader of the choir as a way to have power over others and it became less of his love for singing and more about being able to boss other people around and exercise superiority. He didn’t rejoin the church choir after the island. He just likes being better than others and is a competitive guy.

If Simon didn’t die (rip my goat…) adult Simon would own an absurd amount of animals.

Simons mam is French and his dad is English, Piggy’s mam is English and from London but his dad is Scottish for some reason idk why, Roger’s mams Egyptian or smthn

Jack has literally never been hunting in his life but his dad has

Robert has a dachshund. Also he’s sort of always been the ‘punch line of the joke’ friend but he doesn’t really want to speak up about it bcs it gets him attention and..well..friends.

Ralph tried to tell the truth about what happened to Simon and Piggy but everyone else spoke over him and in the future he’s still drowning in guilt because he knows that they won’t ever really get any sort of justice.

I imagine older Jack as being very corporate maybe owning a business or being in finance or a stock broker or smthn…or having a high position in a business…idk

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Random lotf headcannons bcs im bored (i actually wrote lotf so consider it cannon)

Spoilers for lotf btw

Guys…as much as I want Piggy to be from Blackpool (and he truly is in my heart…) he is actually Cockney and I need to come to terms with it…Plus he’s the only one that’s not upper class/upper-middle class, his family is working class.

When Ralph grows up he manages and owns stables because during the island one of his ways of escaping reality was day dreaming about his horse in Devon or something and he struggles with major trust issues and social anxiety after the island. He’s a very isolated man. An isolated man that really loves horsies. I don’t think he marries or has children tbh.

In a modern, secondary school au Roger would have a mullet…

Sam and Eric went from being very co-dependent to not talking to each other much as they grow up. Because they were basically viewed as the same person in a way, always joined together and eventually just referred to as Sam n’ Eric without having their names separated or smthn in the end, they were at first joined at the hip, but, when they became teenagers they began to want to differentiate themselves because they were sort of sick as being treated like they were the same person which lead to them drifting apart..or something.

Jack was at first pushed into being a choir boy by his parents but eventually used the fact he was basically the leader of the choir as a way to have power over others and it became less of his love for singing and more about being able to boss other people around and exercise superiority. He didn’t rejoin the church choir after the island. He just likes being better than others and is a competitive guy.

If Simon didn’t die (rip my goat…) adult Simon would own an absurd amount of animals.

Simons mam is French and his dad is English, Piggy’s mam is English and from London but his dad is Scottish for some reason idk why, Roger’s mams Egyptian or smthn

Jack has literally never been hunting in his life but his dad has

Robert has a dachshund. Also he’s sort of always been the ‘punch line of the joke’ friend but he doesn’t really want to speak up about it bcs it gets him attention and..well..friends.

Ralph tried to tell the truth about what happened to Simon and Piggy but everyone else spoke over him and in the future he’s still drowning in guilt because he knows that they won’t ever really get any sort of justice.

I imagine older Jack as being very corporate maybe owning a business or being in finance or a stock broker or smthn…or having a high position in a business…idk

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Since I’ve ran out of asks on my boatsrbetter account I’m really pondering what to do next to still get content out

I’m thinking of writing each chapter of lotf from Tommys perspective but that’s also a whole lotta work

I’m like half way through chapter one so I might post that as a one off thing but idk

I’m thinking a comic but I dunno what to centre the comic on. I don’t want the account to die off at like 3-4 posts though

Just considering

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Unknown Photographer. Anonymous Roller race. England. 1930

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I MISSED YOU SM BRAH WE NEED TO TALK MORE ONG <33

I GOT SO JOYFUL WHEN I SAW YOU INTERACT WITH MY POST IT LITERALLY MADE MY DAY

General information about Tommy :)

-He’s very bubbly and hyperactive

-He’s made fun of a lot by the other boys for his thick ass cumbrian accent. I won’t be writing it in because it’s difficult and makes messages hard to understand (as I have learned lol) so just try and imagine it

-He’s obsessed with cleanliness and has made his own clothes line and washing up system. The littluns listen to him a lot more than they listen to Ralph and he just sort of reluctantly becomes the one looking after them since nobody else does. The only reason they listen to him is because he reminds them of their mams bahahaha. Nobody else listens to his dumb ass and eventually he sort of loses the plot and the influence he has over the littluns to.

-He really wants to be the leader of the island to replace Ralph because he believes he has better plans but nobody really listens to him and he’s often ignored in meetings leading to him just doing his own thing

-He loves boats and his major big plan is to try and build some sort of raft to help them sail off the island because he naively believes this will work

-Since the person who holds the conch can speak and is ‘the leader’ he keeps coming up with increasingly ridiculous plots to try and steal the conch and overthrow Ralph. They do not work.

Important note:Not only Tommy is open for asks on this account!! Simon, Jack, Piggy, Roger, Ralph, Maurice, Sam n Eric, Robert, Percival and others are open for asks as well!! All asks will be answered with a drawing.

(Old ass art)

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@boatsrbetter more developed oc explanation. This won’t be going on the account because I solely want to have asks on there and then post any unrelated stuff on piggyisfromblackpool, though all Tommy related posts will be under the tag boatsrbetter. Beware!!!! I am proper deeping it!!

Tommy is basically meant to be someone who resembles the lower, northern class which is very imperative to British culture because of the north, south divide (just for any Americans if you’re reading LOL). Whilst we did get some sort of perspective on the struggles of the lower class through piggy it wasn’t really depicted much more than the fact he’s the only one with an accent and he’s often dismissed by the other boys. This is actually what inspired me to create an oc in the first place, I made a joke post about how there’s no northern boys on the island for a reason and then developed it into an actual character LMAO+the joke ‘piggy is from Blackpool’ head cannon.

So the reason I created Tommy in the first place was as a character depicting those struggles. Not necessarily though the fact he’s not the leader (though that is unintentionally reflective of the fact the prime minister is almost never northern lol) but the alienation he feels from others. Once moving to London backstory wise he felt alienated from the posh southerners he often had to spend his time around leading to often dismissing them outright, especially since he struggles to make friends with them and relate to their experiences as someone whose parents had to struggle for their next meal, his father being a coal miner and his mother having a job at the time as a waitress full stop.

(To quickly explain the possible inconsistency of Ambrose being conscripted despite working as a coal miner, more on that later, coal miners were conscripted during WW2 from what I can tell though this was particularly in the beginning of the war in 1939 when the national service act was released stating that men aged 19-41 were liable for conscription. The coal shortage of 1941 happened because of the large amount of coal miners that had been conscripted to fight, leading to the Bevin Boys initiative where young men were conscripted to work in coal mines rather than the army. Ambrose Bell is conscripted to fight in 1939, he attempts to dodge the draft by feigning injuries but after deciding he’d rather serve in the army than serve a prison sentence, he very reluctantly leaves his family prompting Tommy and his mother Florence to move to London to live with Tommy’s Auntie Cathy as they could not afford to leave on their own and his mother needed emotional support to. Tommy’s auntie is wealthy and thus she sent him to a private school to attempt to sort out his short-tempered and generally bad behaviour leading to his feelings of alienation. Heavy bombing began to occur in 1940, leading to the children’s evacuation initiative where children were sent to other countries rather than simply to the countryside. My personal head cannon is that Lord of the flies takes place in South Africa at this point, though it is likely that Lord of the flies takes place in a universe where ww2 extended past the 1940’s to the 1950’s or something. My friend is a geographer and she told me all the stuff about the geography of the area and how the mountain could be a dormant volcano and that, I think it suggested it might’ve taken place there but I barely remember any of it so if anyone knows otherwise lmk!! Furthermore, If any of my research at all is wrong lmk because I didn’t really go that deep into it!!!)

Tommy’s disconnect with the other boys is shown more so later on in the story than the boatsrbetter account is currently taking place mind you when he shows concern over the hunters pig killing as he grew up with a family that struggled to afford food and applies that to the amount of food they have available on the island. Tommy is of the firm belief they won’t be rescued anytime soon and believes that they shouldn’t go around murdering all the animals on the island because food will then become scarce leaving them to starve and often wonders if they’ve ever really had to ration food up until the war maybe or even ever the way he did growing up. Some of his ideas and suggestions are generally quite good but because he’s 10 and they’re generally quite vague and not thought through to the extent they should be his ideas are often dismissed, plus his general behaviour, heavy accent that others struggle to understand and general upbringing is something the other boys can’t really relate to as much and thus he’s generally ignored.

His focus on cleanliness is driven by his mother who stressed that he always had to look clean and presentable, particularly when he started attending a private school in London, as she wanted him to look proper, fit in with the other boys and make friends. Whilst this didn’t necessarily work in any way, he takes this message to heart due to him witnessing his mothers struggles with depression (which will be touched more on later in on the blog) and wanting to give her something to be proud of when he returns. Once the island begins to degrade and break down, he focuses on this aspect the most as he begins to actually lose faith in those around him and becomes obsessive in his routine and personal hygiene. This can also be interpreted as him clinging onto the civilisation they previously had despite his early jealousy fuelled objections to it. His faith in those around him entirely breaks when he begs Ralph to do something and realises Ralph has become a person who entirely buries himself in the past as a way of coping with his current reality. This is something Tommy used to do himself to cope prior to Lord of the flies but his concern with the current situation overrides his desire to hide away. Despite his sulking and avoidance of the others, he is a very persistent and brave character leading to his ending (running straight into the fire in the woods once he notices that some of the littluns are missing on the shore of the beach and they do often go in the woods to pick berries.)

Tommy doesn’t necessarily hate/not get along with everyone on the island.

Tommy does get along with Roger and Piggy in particular for these reasons:

-With Piggy there’s a bit less of a disconnect, whilst Piggy does irritate him on occasion with his nagging, they share a similar background in the fact they are lower class and alienated to some extent. He thinks Piggy is genuinely smart and should be listened to above Ralph. He dislikes how smart piggy is at some times because he’s never been ‘smart’ himself but that’s mainly because he’s a very jealous character. If I remember right Piggy suggested they make a sundial so they can remember what time it is?? Tommy is very supportive of that idea.

-Roger, realistically, should be someone that Tommy would dislike. He’s in the hunters, wants to kill the pigs and aligns himself with the other boys. However, because Roger is so quiet, it’s difficult to really know where his true opinions lie. Roger is the one who suggests the vote for chief, which Tommy agrees with fundamentally, he just thinks he should have won that vote. Because Roger is so quiet with his opinions, he doesn’t really mind him very much and likes sitting on the rocks with him since he’s quiet and easy to talk at. Moreover, he and Roger have the same ‘violent’ way of expressing their emotions. To clarify, I’m not outright saying Roger is a violent person at all, I’m more so referring to him throwing rocks at the littluns near the beginning of the book and his arm being ‘conditioned by a civilisation that knew nothing of him and was in ruins.’ This is somewhat relatable to Tommy whose grandparents literally put him in boxing as a way of trying to contain his temperament LMAO. Watching someone act on something he has definitely thought of doing and overall just expressing their emotions in just a physical way in general catches his interest therefore leading Roger to be someone he identifies with in a way. Though, he does end up nagging Roger quite a bit BAHAHA. Whether Roger actually likes him or just tolerates him is deliberately left vague.

Tommy on Ralph is also very important to.

From my last post, it’s obvious that Tommy constantly brings down Ralph and completely shits on him the entire time. This is out of jealousy. He acknowledges that Ralph’s plans are not working in the way they should and uses it as fire against him. However, he also inflates the importance that Ralph has. Whilst Ralph is undoubtedly an important character and symbol, Tommy continues to view him as such even after the islands breakdown because of jealousy blinding him. He only disregards this belief once confronting Ralph and realising how fucked they are. Thats the point where he realises he has to try and pick up the pieces and ultimately fails to do so entirely because at that point civilisation has completely broken down. Some people do humour him but these are quite exclusively limited to OC’s, if any of the other boys humour him it’s ill-intended (not that he really tries to approach the hunters very often at all). Anyways, Tommy does have a level of deep rooted respect for Ralph but he refuses to acknowledge this.

His desire to be chief is comparable to a child wanting to be the leader of a game, in a way.

Other important themes:

Conscription and the way it affects families. Tommys story goes from reflecting the rural idyll, despite his parents struggling low income and his father’s brutal job, they do get along and have simple family time whilst in the northern countryside. Tommy has friends, plays and whilst school gets him down at times it’s generally very fun and life hearted. Sort of like, things are difficult but we make the best of it and live a good and happy life despite that. Though, this tone quickly changes once they move to London after his father’s conscription. His auntie is cold and distant, he rarely ever sees his mother anymore and when he does she’s a ghost of the person he once was, he has no friends, the atmospheres a lot dimmer and stale. Etc etc. He made a habit of sitting by the door and waiting for his father to come back so things can return back to normal, though his father has died at that point.

The ways in which people struggle with grief and how it can negatively impact a persons actions and they’re state of mind in general. (as shown through Tommy’s mother and auntie who both lost their husbands and ,in his aunties case, her son to the war. Florence becomes completely depressed and ultimately ends up committing suicide, Tommy’s auntie becomes cold and distant and Tommy himself lives in denial.)

You can also sort of count a general criticism of the school system. Tommy is deemed someone who isn’t very smart as he struggles to focus in school and gets absolutely abysmally bad grades but he’s good at other things like cooking, baking, sports and noticing small details others don’t often notice. He can be quite perceptive:he knows deep down from the beginning that Ralph’s leadership isn’t working and picks up on small signs of that like the littluns refusing to take a bath and, he at first uses this to gloat, but once the situation gets absolutely god awful, he pushes that realisation deep down and focuses on the idea that things can be changed so long as the island has a strong leader. Tommy subconsciously views this as Ralph but once he realises Ralph can’t do much anymore he’s just like ‘well I’ll pick up the pieces of what’s left’, though, at that point there’s nothing left to pick up. (He’s naive or downright living in denial in someways, he’s willing to admit that things don’t work and he notices that from the beginning but he fills that with his own reasons and prefers to believe that things can work if done right.)

Also he doesn’t take part in the murder of Simon. This isn’t because he’s different, it’s just because he refuses to attend the feast because he’s sulking about how Jack is basically in charge now when he surely thought he’d be next in line+the hunters ignoring him going ‘guys don’t kill off all our food I beg’. He absolutely would have, were he there. It would be contradictory to say he wouldn’t+the ways the feast can be interpreted in general (how everyone can participate in savagery no matter how civilised they appear to be, reflective of ww2 as a whole). He sees Simon’s body once he goes to see if there’s any food left over and is absolutely shook to his goddamn core.

TLDR;Eden deeps her lotf oc for much much too long. Lowk embarrassing icl BAHAHAH. “Look at my silly and funny lotf oc! and this is the silly funny lotf oc in question.

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This is such a need

i really wanna do the reality show thing i have not a if there is any server thats like lotf oc based 💔

if not i'll just make one just for the thing honestly

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I didn’t anticipate how hard drawing Tommy would be for some fucking reason

It’s his stupid ahh hair brah

I’m just out of practice 😍

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THANK YOU SM 🫶

He’s moody bahahahaha 😭

[Thomas is standing in the woods, very irritated. In the distance, the footsteps of a pig can be heard amongst the leaves but he seems to be ignoring it, if not actively going out of his way to do so. He stops his angry mumbling to pace back and forth. He carefully avoids making any noise, stepping over branches and leaves, twirling a little to do so.]

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GOT SO EXCITED WHEN I SAW THIS REBLOG BAHAHAHAHA

General information about Tommy :)

-He’s very bubbly and hyperactive

-He’s made fun of a lot by the other boys for his thick ass cumbrian accent. I won’t be writing it in because it’s difficult and makes messages hard to understand (as I have learned lol) so just try and imagine it

-He’s obsessed with cleanliness and has made his own clothes line and washing up system. The littluns listen to him a lot more than they listen to Ralph and he just sort of reluctantly becomes the one looking after them since nobody else does. The only reason they listen to him is because he reminds them of their mams bahahaha. Nobody else listens to his dumb ass and eventually he sort of loses the plot and the influence he has over the littluns to.

-He really wants to be the leader of the island to replace Ralph because he believes he has better plans but nobody really listens to him and he’s often ignored in meetings leading to him just doing his own thing

-He loves boats and his major big plan is to try and build some sort of raft to help them sail off the island because he naively believes this will work

-Since the person who holds the conch can speak and is ‘the leader’ he keeps coming up with increasingly ridiculous plots to try and steal the conch and overthrow Ralph. They do not work.

Important note:Not only Tommy is open for asks on this account!! Simon, Jack, Piggy, Roger, Ralph, Maurice, Sam n Eric, Robert, Percival and others are open for asks as well!! All asks will be answered with a drawing.

(Old ass art)

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So many incredible Kris and Susie moments in chapters 3-4, but the sticker one still one of my faves 🥺 follow me on bsky to keep up to date with my art!!

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i don’t know what to say uhmm

drops this and runs

I HATE DRAWING ANATOMY!!!!!!!

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Lotf deltarune AU where Roger is Kris and Jack is Suzie

Idk whether Simon is Noelle or Ralsei bcs I can see him being both icl

Maybe Piggy is Noelle and Simon is Ralsei. I can see that for sure.

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it was worth a try

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kris having to call off the shots when the fight goes on for too long is so funny

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Imagine what kind of week Kris is having though, like, they woke up posessed, their older brother is visiting from uni, bringing up all the pushed down feelings abt their parent's messy divorce, they find out not only is their religion's biblical apocalypse is real, but they are Jesus, AND Sans Undertale is fucking their mom