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primalsnake · 6 months ago

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so after i shot my mouth off (again) about astrology being a form of divination and not fucking myers-briggs, my friend asked me, "if it's a divinatory system how is it supposed to be used?" and i think it's worth posting my explanation here!

in brief, there are three main forms of astrology. in rough order starting from what i would consider easiest and/or most foundational they are: 1. electional astrology 2. horary astrology 3. natal astrology*.

*technically there are more, but judicial/mundane astrology uses pretty much the same techniques as natal, and most astrological magic is really just a very specialized kind of electional.

all of these types of astrology work under the basic underlying assumption that there are certain forces* that govern the cosmos, and that the regular cyclical motion of the physical planets reflects or corresponds to the ebb and flow of the influence of these non-physical celestial forces on the world. there are certain times when a planet's influence is stronger and certain times when that planet's influence is weaker.

*i use an animistic model for this, where the planetary governors are sentient spirits, but a lot of people use a more energy-focused model. either one can work!

electional astrology is the art/science/practice of using the position of the planets and their relationships with each other to determine when an auspicious time to do something is. it is typically better to do something that falls under the rulership of a particular planet during a time when that planet is well-positioned, because that means that the planet's influence on the action will be both strong and kindly-inclined. conversely, doing something at a time when the ruling planet is weakened (the technical term is "afflicted") often introduces extra difficulty.

as an example: mercury rules communication and knowledge, while the sun grants charisma and charm and makes people pay attention to you. so, i deliberately scheduled my thesis defense for a day when both mercury and the sun were well-placed and strong, so that i could take advantage of their help in conveying my research eloquently and sensibly to the committee.

horary astrology is the closest to what most of you probably think of as divination: it's the practice of asking specific questions, casting an astrological chart for the moment the question was asked, and then interpreting the chart as an answer to the question.

as an example, i recently lost a favorite earring. i might cast an horary chart for the question, "where is my earring?" there's a particular section of an astrological chart, the fifth house, that governs the concept of "jewelry". so i would look at what planets fell within or had particular geometric relationships to the fifth house, and interpret the meanings of those planets in their respective positions in the context of "where is my earring and am i ever going to get it back?"

finally, natal astrology is the astrology you think of when you think of astrology. you cast an astrological chart of the moment that a person was born (or that a business was founded, or that an event began...) and evaluate/interpret the planetary positions and relationships in order to understand which planets will have the most influence over that person's life, and in what ways those planets have promised to help or hinder them.

as an example, take a person with a very prominently-placed venus in their chart, but an afflicted mars. throughout their life, the things that venus rules (ease, pleasure, luxury; creation, procreation, and recreation) will a) show up again and again as themes in their life b) tend to be easier for them to deal with. venus likes this person, and she tries to smooth the way for them, in the ways that venus works best. mars, on the other hand, isn't going out of his way to make things easier for this person; so martial stuff (conflict and strife, aggression and drive and get-shit-done) is going to be, on average, harder for them, or show up in their life in ways that kinda suck.

fundamentally, astrology is a way of figuring out what's coming, so you can prepare for it—to better take advantage of the good, and weather the bad. it relies on the assumption that there's a pattern to the cosmos, and that by mapping out the stars in their courses we can know what that pattern is, and that by knowing what that pattern is we can better adjust our actions to achieve our aims. that's what makes it a divinatory system.

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primalsnake · 6 months ago

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Tell me more about the asteroid placements and my 8th and 12th house my ic mc Pluto placements Neptune conjunct mercury placement

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primalsnake · 6 months ago

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How The Mars Signs Turn Up the Heat... 🔥

An Aries Mars will devour you with their fiery intensity. They don’t just want you—they need you, right now, and they won’t waste a second making it clear. Expect bold, impulsive moves, passionate kisses that catch you off guard, and hands that know exactly where to touch. They love the thrill of pursuit, and once they set their sights on you, it’s game on. With Aries Mars, there’s no playing hard to get—they’ll pin you against the wall and show you what they want, no questions asked.

A Taurus Mars desires you in a way that’s slow, steady, and deeply sensual. They’ll seduce you with every glance, every touch, making sure you feel their desire building beneath the surface. Expect lingering caresses that send shivers down your spine and soft, hushed tones that make your heart race. They crave a full sensory experience—whether it’s the feel of your skin, the taste of your lips, or the intoxicating scent of your presence. Once they’ve got you, they’ll make sure you never forget the depth of their desire.

A Gemini Mars will have you tangled in their charm before you even realize it. They’ll tease, provoke, and flirt with sharp wit and tantalizing words that leave you craving more. Their texts will be full of double meanings, and their conversations will be like a game of seduction. They’ll pull you in with light touches that seem innocent but are anything but. With them, it’s mental foreplay—expect late-night talks that start playful but turn into something much steamier, leaving you hot under the collar and hooked on their unpredictable nature.

A Cancer Mars may come across as tender, but when they want you, their intensity is raw, primal, and all-consuming. They'll make you feel craved, almost possessed, with an emotional depth that hits you hard. Their passion is protective yet possessive—expect a closeness that feels like they’re wrapping you in their desire. They’ll hold you tight, whispering in your ear just how much they need you. There’s a burning need in them to make you feel wanted, cherished, and completely ravished, all at once.

A Leo Mars will make you feel like you’re the center of their universe when they want you. Their confidence is electrifying—they’ll shower you with attention and grand gestures, making sure you know just how badly they desire you. They’ll flirt in ways that are bold, daring, and hard to resist—locking eyes across the room with a smirk that promises so much more. Expect passionate kisses in public, seductive whispers in your ear, and the kind of physical connection that feels like you’re under a spotlight, with all eyes on you.

A Virgo Mars may seem composed on the surface, but when they want you, they’ll drive you wild with their precision and focus. They’ll learn exactly what makes you tick and use it to their advantage, making every touch calculated to get under your skin. Expect them to be surprisingly dirty in the details—whether it’s an unexpected brush against your thigh or an offer to help you out in ways that are far from innocent. They’ll unravel you bit by bit, and their subtle intensity will leave you craving more.

A Libra Mars will seduce you with effortless grace, but don’t be fooled by their charm—they know exactly what they’re doing. They’ll draw you in with soft, sensual touches, lingering eye contact, and flirtation that feels like a dance. They’re masters at creating an atmosphere of romance and sexual tension, making every moment feel like the beginning of something irresistibly heated. With them, it’s all about balance—just the right mix of sweetness and spice to make you weak in the knees.

A Scorpio Mars will make you feel possessed by their desire. When they want you, they’ll pull you into their world of intense, magnetic attraction where everything feels heightened. They’ll look at you like they’re undressing your soul, and their touch will be enough to ignite a fire deep inside you. There’s nothing casual about their pursuit—they’ll want to own you in every sense of the word. Their seduction is dark, mysterious, and dangerously alluring, making it impossible to resist their pull.

A Sagittarius Mars wants you, and they’ll make it known with wild, adventurous passion. They’ll take risks to get close to you, whether it’s through spontaneous, impulsive kisses or pulling you into thrilling situations that make your heart race. They’ll want to explore you like uncharted territory, keeping things exciting, fun, and filled with heat. Expect them to be hands-on—literally—turning every moment into an opportunity to get closer, hotter, and more out of control.

A Capricorn Mars doesn’t just want you—they’ll claim you. Their desire is controlled but intense, and once they’ve decided they want you, it’s game over. They’ll approach you with purpose, making sure every interaction builds towards something bigger. Expect smoldering eye contact, a confident touch, and a sense of dominance that makes you feel like they’re in control of the situation—and you love it. They’ll take their time to make sure the tension builds to the point where you’re practically begging for it.

An Aquarius Mars wants you, but they’ll keep you guessing with their unpredictable, electric energy. Their desire is unconventional and a bit rebellious—they’ll turn you on with their unique approach, catching you off guard with spontaneous touches or flirtation that seems to come out of nowhere. They’ll push boundaries, mentally and physically, creating a spark that feels like electricity running through your body. Expect a wild ride where every moment feels new, exciting, and just a little dangerous.

A Pisces Mars will drown you in their dreamy, intoxicating passion when they want you. They’ll make you feel like you’re living in a fantasy—where the lines between reality and desire blur. Their touch is soft but filled with meaning, and they’ll look at you like they’re seeing right through to your soul. When they want you, it’s a romantic whirlwind of whispered words, lingering glances, and an emotional depth that will leave you feeling completely swept away in the heat of the moment.

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primalsnake · 6 months ago

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8551 Daitarabotchi … named after the Japanese Yokai colossal giant.

The asteroid represents the essence of massive, awe-inspiring, and ambivalent power—both creative and destructive—drawing from the Japanese folklore of a giant who shaped the landscape of Japan. Daitarabotchi symbolizes monumental, overwhelming forces beyond ordinary human comprehension, embodying traits of divine wisdom, uncontrollable might, and the simultaneous potential for harmony and chaos.

Traits, themes, characteristics;

The native has a “colossal” power/presence.. The overwhelming size and strength of Daitarabotchi define its mythos. It creates mountains and lakes effortlessly, representing forces capable of massive, lasting impact on the physical or metaphysical world.

Themes of creation and destruction (As a being who sculpts landscapes, Daitarabotchi bridges the duality of creation and ruin. Mountains rise, valleys sink, and entire ecosystems form or vanish at its touch.) The Daitarabotchi is a descendant of the God or Creation.. powerful, almost divine energies are at play here.

Traits of defiance and AWE.. The stories of humans trying to outwit or appease Daitarabotchi reveal its role as a symbol of the human struggle against overwhelming natural or cosmic forces. The rituals to drive it away reflect fear of what cannot be controlled or understood. These people also have the potential to leave an enormous footprint behind (metaphorically, obviously.)

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A prominent Daitarabotchi (conj, square, opposite. Etc.) can signify a native with an immense impact, a transformative presence, or a connection to monumental change. This asteroid speaks to themes of vast ambition, divine creativity, raw destructive energy, and encounters with overwhelming odds, etc.

Keywords include, but are not limited to; monumental creation and destruction, great passion, overwhelming strength and presence, enormity, a terrifying, yet awe-inspiring force, shaper of environments and destiny, duality of benevolence and hostility, colossal hunger for power, influence, and resources, ancient wisdom and primal instincts, impactful legacy and eternal footprints, fearsome defiance and unstoppable will.

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THROUGH THE SIGNS

Daitarabotchi in ARIES

Daitarabotchi in Aries represents the raw, explosive force of colossal energy infused with the fiery, pioneering, and impulsive nature of Aries. It is an embodiment of overwhelming power, relentless determination, and a drive to leave a permanent mark on the world. In someone’s life, this placement manifests as an uncontainable urge to conquer, create, and dominate, often in ways that feel monumental or larger-than-life to others. Aries thrives on action and initiation. With Daitarabotchi here, the individual becomes a figurative giant in their world, capable of reshaping their surroundings through forceful decisions and bold actions. They approach life with the mindset of a conqueror, needing to carve out their place by sheer willpower. This may play out through audacious career moves, dramatic personal transformations, or relentless pursuit of goals that others consider unattainable.

This placement speaks to ambitions that are not just big—they’re overwhelming. The person feels the need to act on a grand scale, often pursuing projects or goals that seem too large or daunting for others. They may build empires (literally or figuratively), striving for achievements that cement their legacy.

Aries is ruled by Mars, the planet of war and action. The combination with Daitarabotchi can make the individual incredibly assertive, even aggressive. They’re not afraid to fight for what they want, and they’ll often confront obstacles head-on, regardless of the consequences. However, the impulsive nature of Aries means their actions may sometimes lead to unintended destruction.

Like the mythological giant shaping the terrain, these individuals often influence or reshape the lives of those around them. Whether through leadership, confrontation, or inspiration, they become a towering figure in their community, profession, or personal relationships.

Daitarabotchi in Aries embodies the idea of clearing the old to make way for the new. In someone’s life, this can manifest as cycles of destruction and rebirth—burning bridges, leaving past situations behind and starting anew. These individuals often feel “bigger” than the world around them. They may struggle to find places where they can fully express their energy, leading them to seek environments where their larger-than-life personality is not just tolerated but celebrated.

Keywords; Monumental power. Pioneering spirit. Creation through destruction. Towering presence. Raw aggression. Unstoppable force. Chaotic energy. Passion. Monumental influence. Etc…

Daitarabotchi in TAURUS

Daitarabotchi in Taurus embodies a titanic force grounded in the physical and material world. It fuses the massive, terrain-shaping energy of the mythological giant with the steady, patient, and determined nature of Taurus. Daitarabotchi in Taurus reflects immense creative and destructive power toward building, stabilizing, and accumulating resources, wealth, or influence.

Taurus is the sign of persistence, with Daitarabotchi here, the native feels compelled to build something monumental that will withstand the test of time. Could manifest as constructing a literal empire, amassing wealth, or creating a powerful legacy rooted in actual tangible physical achievements. Approaching life like a mountain. I.e: immovable, enduring, and deeply rooted in their purpose.

Taurus ruling material possessions and earthly pleasures, having Daitarabotchi here magnifies exceedingly. Native may be deeply driven by the need to acquire wealth, land, or resources to secure stability and power. Or, they may feel overwhelmed by the weight of material responsibilities or a fear of scarcity, leading to an insatiable desire to stockpile and persevere.

Unlike the explosive, impulsive Aries, Taurus tames the great Daitarabotchi with patience and deliberation. This placement represents slow, but unstoppable growth. Said natives do not rush into action; instead, they cultivate their goals methodically, ensuring that every step builds on a solid foundation.

An absolute inability to quit. A cosmic-level ability of determination and resilience. Natives possess incredible endurance and will push through even the most insurmountable obstacles. Beware of this determination leading to stagnation and resistance to needed change.

Keywords; monumental stability, titanic patience, material mastery, earth shaker, immovable determination, sensual monolith, weight of responsibility, enduring legacy, constructive destruction, cosmic builder, luxury overdrive, enormous resourcefulness.

Daitarabotchi in GEMINI

Daitarabotchi in Gemini manifests as an immense, transformative force operating within the realms of communication, intellect, and duality. This placement symbolizes someone whose mental faculties and verbal expression are colossal, far-reaching, and capable of shaping the minds and environments of others. Just as the legendary giant Daidarabotchi left lasting marks on the landscape, this placement ensures that the individual leaves an indelible intellectual or social imprint on the world around them.

The mental titan

A mind that operates on an enormous scale, constantly seeking to gather, connect, and disseminate information. Their thoughts and ideas seem larger than life, often overwhelming to others. Reflecting Gemini’s duality, they can seamlessly adapt to different roles, shifting between conflicting identities or viewpoints with ease, much like the Daidarabotchi’s ability to change shape. Their ability to connect people, ideas, and information creates vast webs of influence that reshape their social and intellectual environments.

Endlessly curious and always moving, they find it difficult to remain in one place—physically, mentally, or emotionally—leaving behind profound changes wherever they go. Communication becomes a superpower. They can uplift, inspire, or utterly destroy through their words and ideas, wielding language with the force of a giant’s footsteps. While they may exhibit lightheartedness and wit, their humor and curiosity mask an intimidating depth of intellect and ambition.

Totally unparalleled communication

A masterful ability to express even the most complex concepts in a way that others understand. They can be persuasive, entertaining, and magnetic when speaking or writing. They thrive in environments that require quick thinking, adaptability, and creativity. These natives are able to bring together disparate ideas, people, or disciplines, they can create innovative solutions that others would never imagine. Their charisma and intellectual prowess make them natural leaders in social or academic circles. Their ability to manipulate and dominate conversations or social environments can intimidate others or create alienation.

They often become experts in their chosen fields, but their expertise spans multiple disciplines. They could be polymaths, inventors, or prolific writers. This placement can translate to mental mastery. Known for their speech or writing, they might publish groundbreaking works, deliver unforgettable speeches, or revolutionize how ideas are communicated. Much like Daidarabotchi’s footprints became lakes, their words and actions create lasting ripples in the collective psyche or societal structure.

Keywords; intellectual colossus, shape-shifting communicator, enormous curiosity, monumental ideas, hyper passionate communication, words that CUT.. DEEP.. social architect, mental chaos, cerebral dominance, etc..

Daitarabotchi in CANCER

Daitarabotchi in Cancer wields emotion like a giant reshaping the earth, capable of creating serene lakes of love and support or unleashing tsunamis of destructive force. This placement ensures that their emotional impact will resonate far beyond the bounds of their personal life, shaping not just individuals but entire emotional landscapes. Daitarabotchi in Cancer signifies a monumental presence in the realms of emotion, nurturing, and protection. This placement embodies the vast, almost primordial depths of feeling and connection, a cosmic interplay between the maternal and the monstrous. With Cancer’s lunar influence amplifying Daitarabotchi’s already overwhelming scale, this person operates as an emotional and protective giant, reshaping their inner and outer worlds through profound instincts and tidal waves of sentiment.

General themes

Their feelings are titanic, capable of carving landscapes within relationships, family, and community. They feel not just for themselves but for the world, channeling ancient, universal emotional currents. Like a divine protector, they are fiercely nurturing, defending those they love with an intensity that can be both awe-inspiring and fearsome. Their emotional care feels larger-than-life, but so too can their protective anger. Their intuition operates on a massive scale, sensing shifts in the emotional atmosphere like tectonic movements, often acting on these instincts with an unstoppable force.

These natives create and destroy emotional foundations, reshaping personal and family dynamics with their colossal influence. This can feel comforting or overwhelming to others. Their internal world is vast, complex, and oceanic, reflecting both the nurturing calm of a tranquil sea and the overwhelming power of tsunamis.

Unstoppable Nurturing Power: Their ability to support, heal, and care for others is profound. They often act as the emotional anchor for their family or community. They can access emotional depths that others barely understand, offering profound insights into the human condition. Just as Daidarabotchi’s footprints became lakes, their emotional contributions leave a lasting mark on the people and places they love.

Overwhelming Sensitivity: Their emotional currents can be so intense that they drown in their own feelings, struggling to find emotional balance. Their colossal feelings may lead to dramatic responses, creating chaos in situations that require calm. Their emotional depth may alienate them from those who cannot comprehend or match their intensity.

Emotionally Transformative Presence: Wherever they go, they profoundly influence the emotional atmosphere, reshaping how others feel and interact. They are drawn to roles or causes where they can shield and nurture, whether as caregivers, activists, or healers. Their relationships feel vast, intricate, and enduring, often resembling entire ecosystems of shared emotion and history. Their personal stories and emotional legacy often become larger-than-life narratives, influencing those around them for generations.

Keywords; emotional titan, cosmic nurturer, nurturing force, oceanic depths of feeling, cyclical emotional energy, overwhelming care, emotional anchor, creator of emotional ecosystems, etc

Daitarabotchi in LEO

Daitarabotchi in Leo is a towering figure of creativity and leadership, reshaping the world through their radiant presence and dramatic flair. Their life is a stage, their impact a legacy, and their heart a sun that burns with unrelenting passion. This placement ensures that they will never simply exist—they will leave an indelible mark on the landscape of life. Daitarabotchi in Leo represents a massive, awe-inspiring presence in the realms of self-expression, leadership, and creative power. This placement combines Leo’s solar brilliance and dramatic flair with the colossal, earth-shaping nature of Daitarabotchi, creating someone whose personality, creativity, and charisma radiate with overwhelming force. These individuals are natural-born leaders, performers, or creators, reshaping their environment with the intensity of their presence and vision.

General themes

Colossal ego & creativity; Their sense of self and creative drive are larger than life. They often see themselves as central figures, not out of arrogance, but because their presence naturally commands attention. They shine like a sun, exuding dramatic flair and the ability to captivate an audience, whether onstage or in daily life. Their energy is regal and dominating, like a giant who reshapes the world with their vision and passion. They possess an unshakable belief in their uniqueness and abilities, often inspiring or intimidating others with their sheer self-assuredness.

Transformational leadership & authority; Their leadership style is both grand and impactful, often changing the lives of those they guide or influence. They approach life with courage and passion, driven by an intense connection to what they love and care about.

They radiate warmth, confidence, and charisma, drawing others to them like moths to a flame. They effortlessly draw others into their orbit, using their charm and brilliance to influence or inspire. They are deeply driven to leave a lasting legacy, whether through their creations, leadership, or relationships. Their creative talents and self-expression are expansive, capable of reshaping cultural, social, or artistic landscapes.

Potential for an overbearing ego. Their confidence and sense of importance can tip into arrogance or a need to dominate. They may struggle with insecurity if their efforts go unnoticed, becoming overly reliant on external validation. They may demand to be the center of attention or insist on being in control, alienating others in the process. Their immense pride can make it difficult for them to admit mistakes or accept criticism.

Keywords; titanic & massive charisma, enormous self-expression, regal presence, monumental creativity, overwhelming pride, radiant self-belief, grand legacies, royalty, visionary builder, courageous creator and destroyer.

Daitarabotchi in VIRGO

Daitarabotchi in Virgo merges the boundless might of the cosmos with the small, exacting details of life. These individuals are humble yet powerful, unassuming yet transformative, capable of shaping the world through their unmatched dedication to perfection and service. Their lives are a testament to the beauty and impact of diligence, showing that even the tiniest details can create monumental change. Daitarabotchi in Virgo manifests as a monumental force focused on precision, service, and refinement. This placement merges Virgo’s analytical mind and meticulous nature with Daitarabotchi’s massive, terrain-shaping energy, creating individuals who see no task as too small and no detail as insignificant in their pursuit of excellence. Their lives are defined by a profound commitment to structure, order, and purpose, reshaping their world through acts of diligent service, relentless improvement, and transformative problem-solving.

General themes

These individuals amplify Virgo’s natural inclination toward precision, making their work and efforts feel immense in scope yet intricately refined. They have an overwhelming need to improve, heal, or optimize, tackling problems others would find too complex or overwhelming. They approach their goals with rigorous focus and organization, excelling in environments that demand careful analysis and execution. The natives have an a relentless desire to perfect themselves and their work. Endless self-improvement. Their work ethic borders on obsessive, driving them to extraordinary levels of achievement.

A massive analyst, their capacity for analysis and critical thinking is monumental, allowing them address problems others may overlook or dismiss. These natives are also incredibly intelligent, much their Gemini counterpart. They can also create very long lasting frameworks - be it in relationships, projects, their work, etc - that withstand and endure due to their painstaking attention to detail.

These people can also be overwhelming perfectionists. Their genuine obsession with getting everything so precise can lead to stress, burnout, and paralysis in the face of imperfection. Their attention to detail may become excessive and lead to them to also become exceedingly and over the top nitpicky. Also a capacity to become super critical over themselves and others. Extremely judgmental people.

On the plus side though these natives can be incredibly planners and have quite exceptional organizational skills. They can be very precise and have quite the impressive work ethic. Their work ethic and discipline can be absolutely indefatigable.

Keywords; monumental precision, colossal refinement, healing power, systematic mastery, tireless, indefatigable, relentless discipline, obsessive improvement.

This is my first post with this much detail and that’s this organized.. if it does well, I’ll release part 2, containing Daitarabotchi in Libra-Pisces…

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primalsnake · 6 months ago

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hey beautiful,

could you make a post about Venus in 8th house? You’ve mentioned you have this placement and I do too! Thank you very much for your time. 🩷

🖤Venus in the 8th house🖤

TW: mentions of death and s*x

The most common thing I have seen is that this placement (along with scorpio Venus and Venus-Pluto aspects) is s*xualised and glamorised a lot. While it is true, that this placement gives an alluring and interesting aura, it’s not just that. Venus 8th house people have to offer so much more!

A lot of my friends and family members share this placement and we all share one thing: the ability to love so deeply that it hurts. This ability can also turn toxic or even turn into obsession if this placement is underdeveloped.

A lot of 8th housers also stay with people for longer than they should. Most of the times they have outgrown some situations or people, but they refuse to let go because of the feelings they feel. I’ve also been trough that many times. In hope that the spark will come back or that the people involved would change.

A common thing I’ve seen is that it is really hard to let go of people they love. I’ve seen this in friends AND family members that they just can’t let go of certain people where love was involved. For me, it’s still that one guy who I haven’t talked to for 5 months now. In the end, he hurt me. But he showed me what it’s like to be loved. I am still not over him and I know it will take some work to let go of him. With him, I experienced what I envisioned as love between two beings.

Venus in 8th house people are (like other 8th house placements) able to read people like a book. The gut feeling about others is never wrong. Intuition is high.

Could be more into trying extreme and intense things in bed like bdsm or playing with knives. 🔪💀⛓️

Very much into occultism and practising it. All my 8th house friends, for example, are in coven or practices witchcraft. Very into herbs and Hollis tub healing methods.

Which leads to the point that people with this placement are natural healers (if developed).

Natural understanding for psychology. Like really!!! Not just theoretical, but also being able to apply it in real life!

Constantly going through death and rebirth moments in life. A lot of ego deaths will happen.

On the other hand, this placement can bring a lot of hate and resentment from women (no matter if the individual is male or female). A lot of jealousy from other woman which makes it hard to find out who will stab you in the back when you’re not around. This can also lead to trust issues in friendships!

Feeling emotions so intense that it may be difficult to word them. Something that helped me was to find a creative way to let them out. Writing, painting or creating music are wonderful activities.

Red and darker colours look wonderful on these individuals (yes, this can vary depending on the rest of the chart and genetics)

Underdeveloped Venus in 8th house can make someone prone to be a pick me or a real meanie.

Either these individuals had some point of being bullied in teen years or them bullying others.

Constant feelings of so much depth. Whenever I’m around other 8th housers I feel so understood. It’s like a warm hug. We just know what you’re feeling.

I said it before, but the ability to heal… just by being there. Just the presence of these individuals is so intoxicating and loving!

Tend to have very dark humour and make jokes about inappropriate things.

Knack for taboo topics. No fear in discussing them.

Love to keep things private or even a secret. Like being involved in affairs just for the sake of it being a secret thing. I feel like some may enjoy something like that just for the thrill of it.

A lot of secret admirers!!

Can have issues with s*xuality and some may not be s*xually active until their late teen years or early adulthood. From what I’ve seen in friends, read online or even experiences myself, there can be also some unconscious trauma relating to one’s s*xuality.

Last but not least: these individuals are hard to forget, as they carry so much depth, magic and power… once they recognise their potential, it’s over for all them bitches trying to put them down!!

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