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Hold on …. You’re onto something here

got accepted into a london uni for a history program so that I can become an archivist.

had a dream that I was Jonathon sims head archivist of the magnus institute, london.

not looking good for me folks.

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got accepted into a london uni for a history program so that I can become an archivist.

had a dream that I was Jonathon sims head archivist of the magnus institute, london.

not looking good for me folks.

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GONMA TRY AND POST MY ART CONSISTENTLY AGAIN. here is my character max!

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is this anything

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Cooking up something for my fellow tma fans out there >:)

This is actually my animation project for school, I'll be posting more behind the scenes as production continues. Materpost - Behind the scenes 01

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Been really enjoying how the Magnus Protocol has been playing with the idea of ✨️nostalgia✨️. Sam obsessing over the Magnus Institute, Alice wanting to rekindle her relationship with Sam, Celia looking into familiar names from TMA.  Even the monsters are a bit of a throwback - a mascot from a 90s TV show, a member of British aristocracy, [ERROR] with her cassette tapes.

And on a meta level - the listeners are playing into this nostalgia, too. The theories that Jon/Martin/Jonah are stuck in the computer. Our excitement at hearing familiar voices again. Trying to  assign the Smirke 14 to the O.I.A.R. cases...

The thing is - nostalgia is actually just  corrupting everyone. Sam's obsession is putting the O.I.A.R. crew in danger. Alice's attempts at reshaping their relationship to how it used to be is harming her current friendship with Sam. Celia's investigations just keep leading to dead ends.

And us, the listeners, our inclinations to apply the old lore from TMA to this new series...it might be causing us to miss some big clues in Protocol...

so yeah, I just think it's really cool how Magnus Protocol is playing with the dangers of nostalgia, especially considering it's a sequel!

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THIS IS WHAT IM SAYINGGGG

nothing personal but this kind of comment rlly exemplifies to me a disconnect between canon and popular fanon jmart characterization because they almost literally had this conversation in canon - except, their lines are swapped!

jon, for all his scared grouchiness, is a secret romantic, while martin, for all his forced optimism, is at his core a pragmatist

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TMAGP theory (spoilers)

it doesn't mean anything until you make it mean something.

in other words, fuck around and find out.

it's hard to put this one into words, but bear with me.

in the magnus protocol, i believe that there is a continuous theme of needing to be known. ink5oul is a fantastic example. gwen did not compel them, ink5oul NEEDED their story to be told.

i honestly think this is the same for TMA. in many of those cases, the statement holders gave up those stories willingly, almost as if they needed to tell the story to achieve some kind of peace. it needed to mean something to somebody. jonathon sims did not compel most of those people, but instead acted as a vessel to consume their stories. he was not about compelling, but about consuming. there was a thirst for some kind of knowledge in him. he had to know, and that made him a perfect vessel for consumption. an archivist is really a glorified hoarder if you think about it. he's hoarding this information.

i personally don't think that the smirke categories matter at all. i don't think that's the point. i think the point is that they scared you and they meant something to you. the story was told, and you consumed it, and that gave it power. at the end of the day, the story was told. to categorize it is to take away meaning. if you think about it, a lot of the statements do not perfectly fit into one or even two categories. more often than not, you can assign 2-3 Fears to any one statement. and that takes away meaning, because categorizing it rationalizes it and takes away the fear.

OIAR employees are consumers. they, like us, are consuming the stories. some of the employees, like alice, stick it in a box and call it a day. others, like sam, ruminate and investigate (which ends up hurting people). i think that categorizing the stories takes away from the actual meaning, the actual point. i think that the OIAR's arbitrary categorization system is almost a critique of the smirke system and how we as an audience have latched onto it. it doesn't make sense. the stories don't fit into one category. alice says "nope, you have to pick ONE". i don't think there ARE categories, smirke or OIAR or otherwise. the only thing that matters is that you consumed it.

you can be alice or you can be sam. alice consumes the story and does not let it get to her. sam takes it and dwells on it and investigates it and gives it meaning and makes it real. sam found something in the institute because he looked for something. and because he found something, people got hurt.

and isn't that what we're doing? investigating. freeing this thing and letting it consume? when we consume, when we ask for more, people get hurt. all of these stories are about somebody in distress, and we feed on it. when we asked for a sequel, we were asking for more pain and more suffering.

i think we're sam and i think we're alice. sam consumes the conspiracy, and alice throws away the stories. because, let's face it, we aren't here for the grotesquely genius short horror story writing, we're here for the overarching plot. we categorize the story and put it in an arbitrary box, and we throw it away so we can focus on the conspiracy. the conspiracy that, if we feed into, hurts more people. maybe it hurts the characters we love.

i think that jonny and alex are enticing us with red herrings, with the promise of an overarching story (which we probably will get!), while also forcing us to listen to stories their friends wrote. we need to consume every bit of everything, and so jonny and alex use our attention to direct us to some really fantastic, lesser-known writers.

i also think that TMAGP is a critique on consumption. all of the statements, or at least most of them, are about wanting more, not being satisfied, or needing to be known.

this is pretty disjointed, and there are definitely some flaws in my line of reasoning, but i wanted to throw it out there. with all of this being said, i am still going to try to find an overarching plot because, let's face it, we are all jonathon sims.

Some other considerations that did not fit:

the entity in the newest episode identified itself as "an archivist" not "The Archivist". jonathon sims would refer to himself as The Archivist if it were him. this might be an archivist, or the leftovers of one, but it isn't Our archivist.

the OIAR as an organization doesn't actually know what it's doing, but it feels like there's something important about it and that's why it categorizes it. much like us. we think it's important so we consume it. but it might just be a damn good story

jmj is obviously jon, martin, and someone. i think it is jurgen, not jonah. jon, martin, and jonah are all avatars of the web in my opinion.

that being said, it is all the web and it always has been. jon was never an avatar of the eye. he was ALWAYS the web. it is all the web, and it still is

jon, martin, and jurgen are not trapped in the computer. they are remnants of themselves. this universe is controlled by the web, and since everything is connected, it knows that these 3 people are important but they aren't sure why, so they stuck their voices into something that is important. i don't think they are literally stuck in the computer as themselves, i think they're stuck in the computer horcrux style.

finally, shoutout to my father for the basis of a lot of these points. he knows what's up

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i really should relisten and write an essay about this (and make sure i'm not misremembering) but like. i think the theme of TMA is "fuck around find out" rather than "bad things happen to good people".

i guess i shouldn't say that j&m are BAD people per se, but they are not GOOD people. they are corrupted and complicated and messy and, yes, manipulative at times.

jon and martin each continually choose over and over again to take the dark path, the path that hurts people. other characters actively try to resist the entities (daisy comes to mind) but j&m, and particularly jon, not only allow it to consume them, but actively participate in the consumption.

i also think that the exact same thing is happening to sam right now in the protocol. he KNOWS that what he's doing is hurting people. in the most recent episode alice tells him this. but what does he do? KEEPS PUSHING.

i really really like jon and martin as characters. i think they are fantastically written. i lowkey think they're bad for each other, but i also think they're perfect for each other.

i also completely understand those that see these two as their blorbos. i understand and support those who don't see them the way i do! i also like to see them as soft and cute and gentle and good for each other. it's good to have that sometimes.

and if you disagree i would love to hear what you have to say. i might be completely wrong. i love discussing media like this.

it’s been 2 years since i listened but personally i think jon sims the archivist is a bad person who continually makes choices that he KNOWS hurt people and he doesn’t care. pathetic manipulator. martin blackwood is ALSO a manipulator and an enabler. jon only starts to like martin after martin is corrupted.

do i still adore them? absolutely. fantastic characters and i love that they’re toxic 💔

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it’s been 2 years since i listened but personally i think jon sims the archivist is a bad person who continually makes choices that he KNOWS hurt people and he doesn’t care. pathetic manipulator. martin blackwood is ALSO a manipulator and an enabler. jon only starts to like martin after martin is corrupted.

do i still adore them? absolutely. fantastic characters and i love that they’re toxic 💔

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here’s some oc art we’ve got max + john, then abe +bruno, noel, and herc!

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here you go i guess

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i love u girlfailure bouchard they could never make me hate u

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OKOK MY THEORY IS

gwen has absolutely no ability to compel. honestly not sure lena knows much more than gwen does. what i do think is that ink5oul is so desperate to be seen, so desperate for attention that they have basically compelled themselves. instead of jon standing in the back of the cafe, it’s like his victim forcing him to sit down and listen to her. like the power, the hunger that ink5oul has is fed by attention

"That's.... very eloquent." "Just lets me understand you a bit better that's all."

I KNEW IT!!! I KNEW WE JUST GOT A STATEMENT!!! The way Ink5oul was talking was EXACTLY like the cadence and writing of a statement. I was wondering if it was just because Jonny wrote the episode that it Sounded Like That. But the show is clearly pointing to the fact that it was kinda weird that Ink5oul just said everything out loud.

Now the question is, what part of Gwen is able to take statements, the OIAR part or a Bouchard trait? If it's the former, do OIAR people gain powers similar to Archvists? If so how? What lets them? Or is there something else going on that we don't know about? Was it a statement in the TMA sense? Or is there another ability that's similar to the Archivist statements that we're seeing?

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archivists (me) be like “who was the last archivist here??? they’ve done a terrible job and left this place a mess” my brother in christ YOU were the archivist