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i think i might have been a little disingenuous. maybe i do think if you’re not jerking it to sourit every night you shouldn’t be reading loveless. but i’m just one person. and that’s not what i SAID.

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anyway for the loveless manga stream thing next sunday, are we okay with the usual 8pm est, or should we go for earlier since it’s a weekend? let me know ur preference:)

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how the hell do you take a post so clearly about fandom OCD to mean “i’ll smite you if you don’t like what i like” god help us all

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isn't the concept of proship that you ship and let ship even if its not necessarily your cup of tea and something you personally find titillating and it may even be a ship that personally skeeves you out and makes you cringe but you're not going to hate on other people for it? i mean this politely but it sounds like you're also being a little bit holier-than-thou because you're able to do it the "right way" ie. wholly embrace the perversity/edginess of something when someone else may not be able to for whatever reason (or not able to just yet as you gave your own example of growing out of that phase)

that is exactly what proship means and i am saying that i and my friends have plenty experiences with people in fandom who practice the opposite of that. or perhaps claim they are a “live and let live” type but in the same breath condemn and look down.

i don’t view myself as better or above others because i enjoy and can stomach certain types of perversity or “edginess”. i hold a lot of resentment inside, i get annoyed, maybe ill make fun of you in a private chat with friends lol im only human! but i am not someone to view another human being as actually lesser than me over fandom stuff. maybe i am hopefully (trying to be) a “kinder” person because i make an effort to be tolerable of other people’s interests. but i do not have patience for fans who use their discomfort or disinterest in proship stuff to look down on other fans. i never said i am inherently better than them, you may be projecting your own feelings/concerns there. i have no issue with ppl who just aren’t into something. i have an issue with fans who feel the need to berate and look down on other fans for being into something. that is all i’m posting about here. i think you are talking about something else entirely. and i even don’t think im “better than” those types either, they just bother me deeply and i find them mean! i think im allowed to speak on ill fandom etiquette.

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i get where you're coming from with the defensiveness people can have when trying to rationalize their way out of enjoying "problematic" material but your recent posts sound like if someone isn't necessarily enjoying something the same way as you, they somehow automatically must think they're better than you? people can like and take away different things from the same source material without casting judgment on what others get out of it. if you're thrilled by the eroticism, good for you! if others love the way a depiction of trauma is handled, good for them. it's probably not that complicated?

yeah so my posts aren’t worded the way they are for no reason! in my 10+ years in the loveless “fandom”, (not just loveless either now that i think about it. pandora hearts, vanitas, and black butler come to mind as well) nearly every person i’ve come across who enjoys loveless “differently” than i do, i guess un-thrilled by its eroticism (i do want to make clear the eroticism and its depiction of trauma go hand in hand, it’s not really one interpretation over the other. maybe you’d Prefer to see it one way than the other way, but ultimately it’s “both”) have had some sort of moral ocd / holier than thou complex over their interpretation.

including myself!!! there was a period i had as a teenager, following me even into adulthood, where i “realized” how abusive sourit is (still not untrue) and i felt this meant the ship needed to be condemned and everyone who “romanticized” were morons at best and predators at worst!! + i completely twisted loveless to fit this interpretation, because i wanted to seem intelligent and ethical about what manga i choose to read.

i mean fairly recently i was just called an idiot and more by a fully grown loveless fan because i ship sourit. and he felt completely opposite from that until i muttered the term “proship”! hahaha like it’s so dumb but it’s so annoying. and i see this kind of attitude everywhere, not only in the loveless fandom. anyway my point is what i’m saying is not coming from nowhere. if you’ve actively participated in fandom in any way, you should be at least somewhat familiar with this phenomenon as well. if not, i’d love to live in your world!!

+ i know this is kind of cringe, but it’s part of / an extension of the anti vs proship thing, regardless of whether these types of people try and avoid those terms.

anyway yeah i don’t have a problem with a fan’s interpretation of a series unless they are actively looking down on others for a difference in opinion. i wouldn’t have posted all that if i just wanted to say bullshit. i save the bullshit for my loveless babbling

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if i’m correct ritsuka’s protest here isn’t that soubi shouldn’t kiss him at all but that he should only do this when it’s just the two of them alone 🤦🏼

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there are so many normal shows / manga in the tags it’s kind of insane like chainsaw man? chainsaw man. ok. i wrote this in support of the loli/shota abuse truthers sorry to everyone else

omg. your favorite piece of fiction is so crazy fucked and serious with its unapologetic and raw depictions of how abuse functions. like it’s so perverse with it too, which is so interesting and transgressive. and i’m pretty sure the perversity is a self-aware meta thing, meaning it’s ultimately clean which is a relief. it would be a serious problem if you were at all titillated by the crazy perverted abuse story. at best you’d be a moron and at worst a predator. those other fans are freaks and pervs in the bad way but not you… not you. you’re doing a great job at ethics and avoiding punishment

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found randomly on google images… supa cute 💗