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Many 'allies' version of accepting trans men means stuffing them into a box where they must be unseperatable from cis, instead of reshaping the 'men' category to be inherently inclusive to trans men
'trans men must be ____ because they're men' ❌
'men can be _____ because trans men exist' ✅
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arguing against ai is always like. im not sure how to explain to you. that you need to think for yourself with your own thoughts. . maybe this would be easier to understand if idk, you were practiced in thinking for yourself
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i'm not saying people shouldn't be reading more books, but i do think it's funny how many people thinking "reading comprehension" is just about how good you are at reading books and not like. criticial thinking skills.
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"fruit has sugar" warning post reminds me of my coworker who told me to make sure I don't get "addicted to fruit". yeah i'm also addicted to a nice walk on the beach
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Saying trans men don’t have male privilege is not saying they aren’t free from misogynistic views.
It’s not a purely male thing to be misogynistic guys.
It’s not a male privilege to be misogynistic.
You can be a woman and be misogynistic.
Misogyny is not limited to men, it’s not a male only thing.
Trans men don’t have male privilege ≠ trans men can’t be misogynistic!
These are two different statements.
My post saying you can’t hold trans men and cis men in the same category IS NOT ABOUT FUCKING MISOGYNY.
It’s about the fact that the one of the only ways a trans man could potentially ever have some semblance of the same male privilege a cis man has in this society is if they are white, post op and have been on T for years, have an M gender marker and do not reveal they are transgender to anyone but their partner(s).
Pre-T trans men, trans men who like to be open about their identity, pre-op trans men, trans men who like being feminine sometimes. None of them have the male privilege we’re talking about here but they’re still all men.
There is a fundamental difference between cis and trans men/mascs in this society. You CANNOT hold them in the same category.
Nobody, not even a trans man, is free from being a misogynist.
But trying to claim that saying trans men/mascs don’t have male privilege is saying they can’t be misogynistic is wild.
Misogynistic views ≠ male privilege
Because it’s not male privilege to get away with/not get away with saying misogynistic statements.
Cis men can be misogynistic
Cis women can be misogynistic
Trans men can be misogynistic
Trans women can be misogynistic
GNC people can be misogynistic
It is not a male privilege to spout misogyny.
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“the heart wants what it wants”? okay well the heart is fucking stupid can we let someone else have a turn? maybe the spleen wants to have a go?
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damn people rly hate type 2 diabetics don't they
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"we need more weird queer people!!" y'all can't even handle trans men/trans mascs
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It’s just kinda fascinating to me that people will see “trans men don’t have male privilege” and instead read “trans men can’t be misogynistic.”
Those are two different statements.
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Non passing trans men don't benefit from misogyny whatsoever, besides possibly on the internet. If they are seen as a woman in someone's eyes, especially legally, they do not benefit from it. If you are not seen as a man by society, regardless of if you are or not, you do not benefit from misogyny.
It's that fuckin simple.
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you do know "MRA" is a right-wing dogwhistle because cis men already have rights on the basis of their gender, right? you DO know trans men DON'T actually have rights on the basis of their gender, right? you DO know "TMRA" more closely echoes "TRA", a term used by actual, GENUINE TERFs to compare trans liberation to a right-wing misogynistic hate movement, RIGHT?
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you do know "MRA" is a right-wing dogwhistle because cis men already have rights on the basis of their gender, right? you DO know trans men DON'T actually have rights on the basis of their gender, right? you DO know "TMRA" more closely echoes "TRA", a term used by actual, GENUINE TERFs to compare trans liberation to a right-wing misogynistic hate movement, RIGHT?
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Y'know, I would care a lot less about the memeification of male pregnancy if there wasn't such a massive overlap between people who memeify it and people who throw a massive tantrum when trans men and mascs ask for even the bare minimum of inclusion in reproductive rights.
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like at this point if I see you hating on men whether cis trans or otherwise I'm just gonna block you cuz why the fuck do you think hating on someone on the basis of their gender identity is progressive.
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Let’s all light a candle and pour one out for all the trans men who never got to figure out they’re men because they were raised to believe they couldn’t ever be anything other than a wife and a mother and if they ever left the church that all their friends and family go to then they’ll burn in hell for all of eternity. May the names engraved on their tombstones fade to nothing and the dresses they were buried in disintegrate.
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