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Don't know if you're interested but elame is currently unfollowing some obx crew members. I doubt rudy is coming back.

Oh really? 🫣 could u send me who? I’m not that knowledgeable on who she was following from the set.

I noticed she unfollowed the OBX official insta, but we are unsure when (could be moths ago)

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I found out that elaine has a talent manager. Dallasman04 on Instagram. His clients are influencers and actresses. Since she's not an actress, I assume she considers herself an influencer. Why do you think she took one ?

Hi, interesting. How did u even figure that out?

She can have one for photography no? I don’t know much about that business. She does have the ig numbers to be an influencer for sure but I don’t recall if she ever did any brand deal? Maybe it could be someone to help her promote her bikini line?

U can DM me if u want to talk about it more :)

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If you are going to use the tag, could you please put a spoiler warning and maybe the read more line for those who had not yet read it but were about to? Now I know some of the major plot points of the book and film before I’ve even gotten a chance to read the story. Didn’t realize it contained spoilers in the first paragraph of your response.

Sorry, my mistake. It’s changed now.

I didn’t realise it was a spoiler considering his role in it has been talked about a lot on here.

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I'm so sorry you had to read Reminders of him. This book is so poorly written and boring, I had a hard time finishing it. Colleen Hoover fails to tackle heavy themes and prefers to focus on a bland and problematic romance. As for Rudy's character, he barely talks and the main thing I remember about him is that he said a lot "Is that a fucking pigeon?". His decision to choose this project is still a mystery to me. Controversy aside, I also doubt the movie will do well because Colleen wrote the screenplay and it comes out at the same time as Wuthering Heights.

Hi, I didn’t finish it. I made it 15 chapters…

Spoilers ahead

I made it 15 chapters, then skipped to the car accident and then read the ending.

I was curious about her writing, not only because Rudy’s in the movie, but mostly because she got three movies out of her work and I wanted to see what her popularity was all about. I am aware about her problematic past so I didn’t purchase the book, just to be clear.

It’s been a while since I’ve read a fiction book and I was genuinely surprised how bad the writing was. Huge kudos to Jiara fanfic’s writers (cause that’s what I’ve been reading the most lately) whose works are often much better than this. I miss you all and wish you’d come back.

The topic itself is kinda interesting although the plot is predictable. But I had a hard time liking any of the characters, probably because their actions were never described properly. Like the main guy hates her but also feels the need to protect her but we don’t really know why. Idk, like you said, it was really bland writing for such a hard topic.

I can see Rudy’s role going either way. He’s either in one scene (car crash) and few montages. Or he’s more involved and the history between him and the main characters is shown in more detail. We shall see. It is a weird project for him to choose when he was always very adamant on doing projects with deeper meanings. But maybe it’s a good money for few days of work, and the movie will benefit from having his name on the poster (a lot of the announcements did say “OBX star” so that might be a marketing ploy to lure more fans in). Will it be a good movie? That’s the question.

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So many things disappointed me about obx season 4 and it’s possible my expectations were just too high or I was living in fanfic world by the end of season 3, but ZERO conversation or even mention of kitty Hawk made no sense. They had a whole episode for it. There was even an interview of Maddie Bailey talking about filming it and how it’s a real issue for teens. How in the world was there NO conversation with Kiara and her parents? They were just randomly fine come season 4. Kiara and JJ? No discussion around how that affected Kie. Not even a mention to the pogues about it. NOT EVEN a throw away line of her making a joke about it in a conversation about all of them talking about everything that’s happened. That would have been the most realistic, especially knowing how low my expectations should have been when it comes to the show runners. Everything set up in season 3 was completely dropped and season 4 had all new and random characters and storylines. It didn’t even feel like obx anymore to me if I’m being honest. And I hated the big John focus in season 3 just as much as the next fan, but I have to say I still HAVE to like it more than the train wreck of season 4, and that’s mostly due to Jiaras storyline and chemistry. Season 3 Jiara will always trump season 4 Jiara for me. What do you think about the Kitty Hawk erasure and Jiara in season 3 vs 4?

The lack of showing consequences and dealing with all the trauma the Pogues went through just got worse and worse with each season. And it’s because the Pates prefer action over emotion and also because 10 episodes is just not enough to fit everything in.

When I first learned about the time jump, I knew we were going to miss on so much. But then they said we will see what they’ve been up to for that time jump. As much as I enjoyed the montage of them building Pogulandia, there’s so much more they could’ve shown. Jiara starting their relationship, telling the rest of the Pogues, figuring out the shift from best friends to lovers, having Pope giving them the OK. And also for the rest of the Pogues it would be interesting to see the start of Cleope, the grieving of the fathers. It was all swept under the rug to give screen time to random new character no one cared about.

Look, Kiara is my favourite character, so the lack of a story line for her in s4 pissed me off. The reason I believe a lot of things were cut from the season is Mike’s sudden change towards JJ. He goes from shutting the door on his own daughter because of him, to defending him and helping them escape without any insight on why his feelings shifted so drastically.

I didn’t like Big John either, but at least there was a connection between him and the Pogues. Why are we supposed to care about some random Pirates in s4? Makes no sense.

Jiara s3 saved the show in my eyes, cause the rest of plotlines were kinda dull or not interesting. And their chemistry was just off the chart. Comparing it to s4, those are totally different actors. Cause how come you acted more like a couple in s1-2 than in the season you were actually a couple? Rudy couldn’t even look at her in most of their scenes, it was ridiculous. That combined with the ridiculous story lines, plot holes , and total disregard for what fans actually loved about the show it created a shit show that was season 4 (especially part 2).

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Don't you think it's weird that Elaine still lurk on obxtwt if Rudy doesn't come back? I've also noticed that she sometimes posts old photos for a few months now. I'm not even sure they're in greece, especially since the water temperature is really cold (like 15°C) and they were swimming in the evening i think. But i guess anything is possible with them, and given that he only has like 5 scenes in his new film going on a trip now isn't so unlikely

Hi Anon, interesting question.

I definitely think that most of them know what’s being said on twitter. And as much as I don’t think it’s good for their mental health, I understand their curiosity about it. If you were in their shoes, would you be able to ignore all the people talking about you, or would you “torture” yourself and read it? Personally, I don’t think I would have the strength to stay away.

I never really thought about when she posts what, and honestly, does it even matter?She posts like once a month so the pictures are probably not from the day. And yes, she probably posts Rudy to show the haters that they are still together but I don’t really care about that (she could also just be posting pictures of her boyfriend cause you know… he’s her boyfriend). I do think it’s interesting though that Rudy went completely silent. Also I would like to see some of her new work as a photographer, does she even have any projects at the moment?

That being said, I think they went to Greece this month and I did make a comment on my twitter about how he’s clearly not working on his movie and how I am curious about his screen time for it. But obviously he’s not the lead, so a week long break is not that big of an issue, but he is yet to be spotted on that set so we shall see how big his role really is.

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Happy six months everyone! It’s crazy how we are still not over it. This has never happened to me before.

This past month started of slow, with some drama in the middle and now we are back to calm waters. I guess things will pick up once they start filming, huh? Maybe Tudum will spice things up a bit. I realised it’s better for me to let any news sink in and not rant right away, kinda take a breather to not overreact. But you can always follow me on Twitter for random thoughts and small rants on @sobx99

Let me pull up my notes and get into the last month recap:

The social media cutting Rudy out - Honestly? It’s either rage bait or someone’s not thinking clearly over there. Cause he’s not cut out of all of it, Brazil posted new pictures just of him and he was in some TikTok reels. But when he’s not in the post, it gets the fans riled up and they rage in the comments. And that’s engagement for them. The last one I saw was them posting JD’s selfie, and to be honest, it must be a bit difficult to post Rudy in these kind of posts when they are using the actors content, cause Rudy barely took any pictures with the rest of them. The one with the Twilight theme was weird though.

Madison and Mariah break up confirmed - we all knew this was coming, it was obvious for months. I’m not the one to celebrate someone’s relationship not working out, and the tweets that day made me feel a bit iffy. Madison doesn’t seem to be that bothered though. They are both a bit messy about it (Mariah a bit more in my eyes) and as much as I enjoy the drama, I kinda hope Madison won’t start anything and let Mariah dig her own grave with her lives and comments. It’s going to be interesting to see how Mariah will handle it all since it’s becoming obvious that her content and fan base were mainly about Madison. Her numbers are dropping more than I thought they would so she might do a story time and spill some details which would be interesting. Also this comment about the laundry did make me giggle.

Rudy’s new project Reminders of him - this one I will try to keep short. I am not the one to judge someone on who they choose to work with. It seems kinda hypocritical when we all consume content from problematic authors (Harry Pottter is a good example of that). But I was surprised by this. I expected him to keep a low profile for a bit, maybe do theatre or low budget indie movie, you know enjoy the craft of acting he likes so much when he has the Netflix money to fall back on. Colleen’s adaptation is the opposite of that. It won’t be low profile, she’s already problematic and her writing is also not the greatest. She was just part of a very public scandal in Hollywood and also her target audience are young females, right? It’s going to be interesting how he navigates all of that. I am also interested in how big his role actually is. It’s odd to me that his rep said he will have plenty of projects to choose from and this is the movie he’s picking.

Why the death still bugs me - I will try not repeat myself, Rudy wanted to leave, the plot didn’t make sense, the chemistry was awful, the death was meaningless and awful.. bla bla, whatever. But if they wanted to create good cinematography , the scene of him dying just needed to be longer. The Pogues dragging him to a car, Cleo driving recklessly while Pope tries to navigate, with Kie and John B trying to keep JJ awake, crying over him and actually trying to save him. If they had this all planned like they say, then it makes 0 sense why it was so lazily done.

They are also taking their time with shooting, aren’t they? I still wonder if Rudy will be back. I don’t think so but there’s a part of him that hopes. They still could fix it all.

Hope you all have a good day, thank you for reading my rants, hit me up with comments and questions, follow me on twitter and I will talk to you next month ❤️

M.

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Showrunners should feel less casual about creating such depressive, narratively unsatisfying seasons. I hope no-one watches S5 and I hope it’s a warning for other shows too

Showrunners should definitely be more aware of how their show is perceived by their viewers. Because yes, obx had deaths in previous seasons and was always dramatic and touched on some heavy topics, but ultimately it was a comfort show about found family for many of us. And killing off the main character in such a careless way was just not what we wanted to watch.

I am on the fence about s5. On November I was like “that’s it, I am done, I am not watching anymore” but with time I am a bit curious how they are going to handle the backlash. There’s still ways to right the wrongs. I also feel a little bad for the other cast members and crew caught in the cross fire. It’s not their fault and their hard work should not be punished. I do expect season 5 to have lower numbers for sure.

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Yes I’m still reflecting and yes I’m still hurt. Season 4 of outer banks was an insult as a fan, especially as a Jiara/JJ fan. Major let down, extreme disappointment, even the minor positive things about the season completely overshadowed. A train wreck, a joke, a disgrace, period.

Just noticed this in my inbox and yes, go off! I was especially disappointed in part 2 cause after part 1, which I enjoyed, I wasn’t expecting it to be that bad. I was totally unprepared and had my hopes up.

I am also very annoyed how the death completely overshadowed the rest of the cast. Even for s5 all everyone is talking about is if JJ will be back, if Rudy will be seen on set. And I completely get it cause that’s on my mind the most as well, but it just sucks that the rest of the characters are being put on the back burner.

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Hi everyone and happy 5 months since November 7th. Has it only been 5 months? It feels longer.

I am still here, tweeting and reading everyone’s thoughts but I am also starting to move on. I feel like everything has been said more than once. Let me pull up my notes and try to make sense of them and do a quick recap of my thoughts and what’s been happening.

JJ’s death in a context - Looking back, I kinda get what the Pates tried to do. Sometimes you have a show and it’s weird how the main protagonists are untouchable. It takes the tension away cause you know they will always be ok in the end. However, I will never be convinced that JJ’s death was planned all along. From the rushed storyline, the lack of meaning behind his death, and the way it was shot, none of it was done right. It felt like a rushed job scrambled to accommodate unforeseen changes. And I will forever be mad about it all.

Jiara was a fan service - I am Jiara fan first, that’s what made me love the show and I have seen a lot of posts how they were never supposed to happen and it was done only cause the fans demanded it. To that I ask, what’s so wrong with shows looking at the fans reactions and changing the story accordingly? It’s not like it was small vocal group of fans (ehm.. Riara). Jiara was the most liked, just look at the TikTok numbers. Why wouldn’t they want to give the fans what they want? And yes, Rudy hated it in the end, but in the beginning, before all the drama happened, he and Madison were all for it.

I miss the fanfics - this fandom has some great writers and I miss them. I miss the AU stories and I am so sad that so many are now probably unfinished forever. Also people need to stop tagging Jarah and Riara stories with the Jiara tag.

Cast drama - I have a recap of all the tea from last month in my notes but you know what? I am not even going to bring that up again. I am always down for gossip session in the DMs/questions but there’s no need to rehash everything in this post.

Will Rudy come back? - honestly, I change my mind constantly. On one hand I think Rudy wants to move on and is over the show, on the other though, it would be an epic comeback and epic final season. I would die if after everything we’ve been through, Rudy is immediately spotted on set and even does some promo and they all pretend like it was the plan all along to have him die and come back. Seeing how much BTS we got last year, I think it would be really difficult to keep him a secret but we shall see.

There’s so much more I could write but my brain is a mess and my notes are a mess and I think it’s better to stop now. Ask me questions if there’s something you want me to talk about.

Let’s see if they will actually start filming this month and I’ll talk to you again next month

Toodles ❤️

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I still cannot bring myself to watch or read anything Jiara. When I get an edit on my scrolls I’m just unwell. The way I just cut them off cold turkey after part 2 came out. Like well that happened, everything’s changed and it’s over. I can’t even enjoy what it was before they massacred his character and the ship, or what it could have been if they didn’t because both are just too painful and enraging for me

I am skipping all the edits (happy or sad), I unsubscribed from Netflix since OBX was my main reason for still keeping up with my subscription and I am not watching that again. Like I can’t even watch happy Jiara moments back and that makes me really sad. Tumblr Jiara tag is dead and fanfics in the Jiara tag are mostly Jarah or Riara now.

How did we get here? And why?

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Happy fourth month since OBX part 2, I guess. I am still here, following the fall out and the drama and thought it would be fun to pop up once a month and share my random thoughts I collected. It might be a bit random at times.

Your comments, opinions are always appreciated. I’ve enjoyed talking to lots of similary disappointed fans.

This month we passed the mark of two years since the season 3 release and I still remember watching it for the first time. I was so excited, even took a day off from work and made a day of it. It was a good day. I did the same for season 4 part 1 and part 2 and let me tell you, the anxiety I felt after part 2 was unreal. It made me so miserable.

What I am kind of stuck on is the hate on the creators. Like yes, they ruined our beloved show and I am pissed about that. At the same time I keep thinking that those are the same people who created our beloved seasons 1-2. You can argue that the actors and their chemistry with each other is what gave the show life, but without the creators we wouldn’t have any of it. They are the ones who casted them. They still have final say in the dialogues, edits used, story lines and even music. And so how come they got it right for the first few years, but completely fumbled at the end? Were there unforeseen complications or did they simply lost their way when trying to make the show bigger and better?

It’s becoming obvious how unprofessional the set was, from all the BTS and interviews it sometimes sounded more like a family project than a professional set for a huge streaming company. They relied on the actors natural chemistry and friendships too much, failed to set proper boundaries and once those friendships got complicated and real life got in the way, they were unable to keep everyone in line. Let us not forget that those were young, fairly inexperienced actors and also that covid created this bubble for them, where they really couldn’t escape the show and each other.

I think it’s interesting to look at the details also, such as the wardrobe. In later seasons, it has been said that Madison was able to pick her outfits. And suddenly Kiara’s style completely changed. Why does the actor has so much power on set, especially when it’s not consistent with her character? I also didn’t like that she was able to keep her tattoos, because although it is in Kiara’s character to have tattoos, Madison’s tattoos do not reflect Kie’s personality at all.

I am personally over JJ’s death. It’s whatever at this point, I am however still bitter at how pointless it was. He didn’t save anyone or protect anyone. He didn’t give up his life for the others, it was just for a shock value. I tried thinking of other series where killing a character like JJ would make little to no sense. Can you imagine if in Harry Potter, Ron died for seemingly no reason in book 5? It would cause the same outrage.

Here’s my two theories on season 5:

1) the Pogues get in trouble, are on the verge of dying and the only thing that can save them is the crown. So they make a wish to live, “wasting” the wish on themselves and are then unable to wish on JJ later.

2) We get an open ending. The show ends with them getting the crown and making a wish for JJ to be alive. Flash forward, we see happy Pogues with kids at Pogulandia and we see happy Kiara with maybe a ring on her finger. No sight of JJ though. Did he return? Is he alive and with Kie? That’s for the fans to interpret however they want. I can see this happening as it would give the fans the possibility of a happy ending they want, without having to get into the supernatural off it all, and without having to have Rudy back on the set.

I am still more inclined to believe JJ won’t be back. With the latest drama, I am not optimistic at all. The only thing that’s keeping me a little hopeful is that Rudy is yet to be announced in other project, so there’s a possibility he will have time to return.

About the unfollowing drama, let me just say this. I think it’s ridiculous that following/unfollowing on instagram has became the norm for celebrities to spark rumours. They want to be private, yet they are giving fans fuel to talk about them by doing this. And I am not talking about the OBX cast only, I feel like every month there’s a story about who has unfollowed who. In my eyes, it’s very easy to mute the person and be completely oblivious about what they post. And it’s not like they are following 10 people. Usually it’s around 1000 profiles. So what’s one follow more. Of course they have the right to unfollow whoever they want, my point is they have to know that fans will be reacting to it and creating more drama about it.

Ok I think that’s it for now

Happy March and see ya next month :)

[sobx9]

I’ve been feeling like crap this past couple of days and this thought popped into my head:

If I rose from the dead and realised my best friends AND my significant other left me to rot in the middle of a fucking desert, I’d be super pissed. Like what do you mean “revenge” and some stupid crown is more important than properly burying me back home? I don’t care how difficult the situation is. Call the American embassy, get Rafe to use his money, call your parents back home and figure it out. Steal a freezer and store my body on a boat for all I care. Get me somewhere you can properly bury me, visit me and talk to me. I doubt you’re going to make annual trips to Morocco for visits to a random grave in the middle of nowhere.

Seriously, my first words to them when I got back would be : “what the fuck, you guys? That wasn’t cool!”

ALSO

If my boyfriend just died in my arms, I would not care about some revenge plot. I’d be calling my parents, (who let’s not forget still somewhat care about me AND have money) to help me. The Pogues can go to Portugal for all I care. I am bringing my boy home.

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To me, the ending of season 4 and the way they showed JJ’s death was very intentional to make it clear to the viewers that he’s gone for good.

-checking his pulse

-burying him in the desert (yes we only see a body in a rug not his actually body but why would they waste time burying someone else?)

-Rafe saying something along the lines of “Groff killed your friend” (I won’t watch it again to write down the exact quote)

-Kie holding his necklace

Immediately after the episode aired, they released interviews saying goodbye to Rudy and JJ, showing us his favourite moments and all that. They wanted the fans to know, he’s gone and not coming back.

I believe they thought it would be enough and fans would be sad but ultimately accept it. I don’t think they expected such a strong backlash over it.

Now do I think, they realised their mistake and would try to fix it? Yeah, maybe. There are ways to bring him back that would be satisfying to watch, supernatural or not (the hint that Groff might have wished for him back with the crown is there at the end and it is something they could work with) and historically they changed storylines based on what fans wanted and also are known to ignore some of past plot points (like season 3 ending doesn’t really match with season 4 beginning, does it?). But so much has happened on and off set that I do think it would be difficult.

I am honestly 50/50 on him being back. Maybe a little more inclined to not believe he will be back. Do I want him back? Yes! Will I watch season 5 without knowing he’s back? Probably not! But I will definitely keep up with the BTS and promo because it will be interesting to see them navigate all of it

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Everyday I think of how the Pates and Burke stupidly played themselves by spreading the narrative of “we always planned to kill JJ from the beginning” and trying so hard to convince the fans that it was exclusively their decision for the plot’s sake.

Like “it was our decision”… oh was it? Prove it then, bring him back! Easy peasy, if it was up to you then you shouldn’t have a problem to write him back in, right?

And the reason why the fans almost expect it is because if there’s one thing these writers have ALWAYS done was change their story and adding things accordingly to fans requests, ALL THE TIME!!!

They bit their own asses by trying so hard to claim they have full decisional power on the matter.

I strongly believe that had they been transparent about the reason behind it “hey the actor left the show” or even just kept quiet without saying nothing at all, the “Bring back JJ” campaign and the fans starting petitions, renting billboards and all that jazz, would’ve probably never happened…they totally brought this on themselves!

By bringing the FULL responsibility on themselves of course the fans are gonna take it to them and expect them to fix it since they did it before and claim the power for such decision to be all in their hands!

They totally played themselves and have created a limbo filled with false hopes for the fans, they only created expectations that are impossible to be fulfilled ‘cause they keep feeding the fans the lie of this decision being exclusively on them when in reality the actor simply left and there’s nothing they can do to change that.

And may I add that it’s borderline hilarious how they went all the way to making that sentimental video/interview with them explaining the death of the character and all the nonexistent meaning behind it… but everytime a member of the cast does an interview it always becomes more and more painfully obvious by their statements how Rudy just left.

PEOPLE WILL NEVER STOP ASKING ABOUT JJ UNTIL THE RELEASE OF THE LAST EPISODE AND THEY OPENED THE GATE FOR THAT!!!

[sobx9]

You know what I have been thinking about lately?

How shitty the Pogues were to JJ when he was going through it in season 4. Meanwhile he was always there for them when they needed him. Let’s discuss:

The biggest letdown was John B. In season 1 JJ followed him on his treasure hunt without question, letting him believe his dad was still alive. In the end, he even stole Luke’s boat for him, knowing how Luke’s going to react when he finds out. In season 2 JJ risked everything trying to break John B out of prison, knowing it was a stupid plan and pissing of his cousin at the same time. He didn’t hesitate to hop on the Costal venture to help his friends out. In season 3 he had no problem going to South America, planning the trip and making deals with a drug dealer even though John B was always mad at him and yelling at him.

Pope was another big player. JJ took the blame for him in season 1, going to jail for something he didn’t even do. Did he encourage it? Yes, but ultimately, it was Pope’s decision to sink Topper’s boat. He also tried to help Pope in his relationship with Kie, even though he probably had feelings for her as well. The same with John B, he helped Pope try to get the cross, no question asked, hopping on the Costal venture. He also immediately went into action when Pope disappeared with a gun in season 3.

After Kiara was kidnapped, he was the most active trying to get her back. He also dropped everything to break her out of Kitty Hawk (while the rest of the Pogues couldn’t give two shits about it). Without him, she would have been stuck there for at least a month, probably getting medicated and isolated.

We also didn’t see him hesitate to let Sarah and Cleo into their friend group. He never seemed to hate on Sarah for being a Kook, Rafe’s sister and having a sketchy past with Kie. He was worried about her in season 2 and he also jumped in to save her in season 4, not knowing how far from the coast line they actually were.

And what did he get in return? Them not giving a single fuck about his whole life being turned upside down, letting him go alone with his super sketchy new daddy and being annoyed with him that he was actually suicidal and loosing his shit. Like I am sorry, but if this really was the plan from the beginning (like the Pates want us to believe) and not just a forced changed storyline then what a poor excuse of a storytelling. There was nothing interesting or elegant about his story and his ultimate demise. Also the Pogues reaction to his death was just awful. They went into revenge mode pretty much immediately, almost no tears shed, no break downs just “ok, he’s dead, let’s hurry him in Morocco and move on”.

Also, also, was rebuilding the Chateau never an option in season 4? Wouldn’t that be easier and cheaper?

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It’s been 3 months since the fiasco of part 2, so I thought I’d pop in and rant a little since I am still not over it

I was in such disbelief after watching part 2 and it honestly made me feel sick. I think part of the reason why was because how good the part 1 was. It was everything they promoted. Family vibes, Jiara cute scenes mixed with just enough drama to keep me interested in the plot. And since they promoted the part 2 in similar fashion, I had no reason not to believe them.

Did I think they were going to kill JJ off? Of course I heard the rumours but I thought that would be such a colossal mistake that they would never actually do it. Although ever since they announced season 5 and Rudy was the only one not reposting it, I had a gut feeling it was gonna happen. Impatient, I skipped to the end to ease my mind and could not believe my eyes. Once I calmed down I went to actually watch part 2. Surely, if they killed him, they were going to make his last few episodes count, right? I couldn’t believe what I was watching, the plot made no sense, all the characters were unlikable and acting off, and to top it all, the “ever growing” Jiara was nowhere to be seen. It was a disaster. I was devastated and felt silly that I was so excited to watch that shit.

The aftermath was worse. I thought I was gonna spend the days following the release watching cute edits, rewatching my favourite parts, vibing with fans on twitter and looking at BTS content and more cast interviews. Instead we got what we got. Angry fans, rumour after rumour, anon people who “were” on set. The BTS drama completely overshadowed the show.

I honestly didn’t care who got along with who, who hooked up, who cheated, who tweeted fatfobic tweets 10 years ago. But it’s hard to ignore all the drama when it is CLEARLY visible on screen. And OBX isn’t the first show when people fought or wanted to leave or had creative differences. But I have never heard of a show where it would impact the final product so much.

Here’s my few brain rots/opinions:

- Rudy wanted to leave (for whatever reason) and it wasn’t planned from the beginning like the Pates said. They just thought it would sound better? Unfortunately, no one really believes that and it’s just a matter of time before someone spills the tea or says something they shouldn’t (Hi, Anthony).

-They knew there would be a negative reaction to the ending, but I don’t think they expected it to blow out so much, and that personal lives of the actors would be dragged through the media.

-I don’t think JJ will be back. The effort of the fans is incredible but honestly, Rudy is done. Either he wanted to quit in the first place so returning would be a step back for him, OR he really had nothing to do with it and would have stayed otherwise but in that case the hate he’s getting would put him off to return anyway. Also the fact they made the “goodbye JJ” videos was their effort to show us he’s gone for good in my eyes.

-Anthony’s interviews are so interesting because he’s obviously unaware of all the lore and maybe wasn’t even briefed on what to say and what to not say. And so he’s filling us on a lot of behind the scenes stuff without realising. His comment about “shake ups during strike” is still on my mind.

-i am interested to see how they will try to salvage this and what season 5 will look like. Will there be a time jump? Will they be running around with a baby? Will they spend the whole season mourning the loss or will they get over it in two episodes and then act like JJ never existed? Honestly, I am not sure if I will be watching season 5.

There’s probably more to say, but for now: Happy 3 month anniversary to all the die hard fans ❤️