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I don’t know how many theater kids are in this fandom, but I feel like a good thing to compare her to is Noel Gruber from Ride The Cyclone. Noel is a teenager in a small town in the middle of nowhere, where nothing ever happens. In his song, Noel’s Lament, he sings about how his dream is to be a hooker in post-war France, waking up in an alley in a puddle of blood and vomit missing some of his teeth, being abused and assaulted and left for dead, before eventually dying from a culmination of everything that’s happened to him.

I’m bringing this up about Kipperlilly, because this tragedy porn of her’s is a lot like Noel’s struggles. When you are completely apathetic to your life, feeling pain and grief seems better than feeling nothing at all. And yeah, it’s a super entitled view, but all white middle-class 14 year olds are entitled, they haven’t had the chance to unlearn that entitlement and get perspective on their life compared to others. And she never got the time to do that, because she was murdered at 15 and taken advantage by a an adult with a lot of power over her.

was kipperlilly wrong for romanticizing riz's tragedy and suffering? yes. but she was also 13/14 at the time. please give her a break, she was learning, and jawbone was helping her. if she hadn't been corrupted, she would have been a different person from three years ago, and a better person. she was wrong, yes, but she was a wrong barely-teenager who was still learning how the world worked and didn't know anything about suffering. she was wrong, but this action from three years ago does not make her a villain, especially since she was improving. we all said stupid shit when we were her age.

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Oh my god. Kipperlilly wasn’t trying to get the Bad Kids permanently killed. She was trying to get them resurrected by Ankarna.

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Everyone talking about the Bad Kids defeating Kalvaxus and the Nightmare King, but honestly those weren’t that major. I think an adventure of that level happens at least once a day in Spyre. I don’t think either of those quests were even important enough to get your GED.

That being said, Kristin is def a footnote in Helio, YES!, YES?, and Cassandra’s pages, Adaine is in the Elven Oracle page and maybe Ankarna’s, Gorgug obviously has a page because he sealed the Night Yorb and is the greatest wizard of an age, and Fig has one because she’s an archdevil. Fabian shouldn’t have a page, because I think it would be funny. Keep humbling that man, he desperately needs it.

riz shows up in legend lore because he summoned the night yorb. if kipperlilly is reviving ankarna just so she can be mentioned in the legend lore wiki i will forgive all of her crimes

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And Cathilda and Tracker. Do the Hangman and Zaphriel also count as people they brought with them?

I'm sorry but the bad kids going to the forest of the nightmare king with just an extra classmate and one of the member's mom vs the rat grinders only going to the mountains of chaos but a teacher having to go with them because otherwise it would be too hard made me giggle

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Thank you so much for compiling this, it makes it so much easier to remember! I love this fandom.

One more detail though. Lucy’s corpse was surrounded by evidence of giant activity (specifically the same evidence found at the site of other rage giant deaths), and her cause of death was that she was beaten to death by multiple assailants. The damage to the environment plus the use of fists implies it could have been people under a rage giant transformation that killed her, but this is unconfirmed.

Ok here's an updated timeline of the Rat Grinders based on the new info we got this episode:

Freshman Year

On the first day of classes Kipperlily and the others meet and form their adventuring party. Kipperlily comes up with the name the High Five Heroes.

Kipperlily excels academically, but the High Five Heroes only go on easier adventures, presumably to ensure they will succeed rather than fail at something challenging.

Ruben is primarily an acoustic/soft rock musician.

Kipperlily begins to have childish rage and resentment towards Riz and the other Bad Kids, which start out petty but gradually grow in intensity over the next couple years.

Sophomore Year

An increase in hostility, one of the first meetings Kipperlily has this year is being jealous that Riz's dad was killed by Kalvaxus, that if a person has suffered immense magical hardship it is an unfair advantage in adventuring.

Kipperlily tries to find evidence of conspiracy with her parents and is enraged that they are boring.

A week after spring break the High Five Heroes go on their first quest to the mountains of chaos, chaperoned by Jace Stardiamond.

After this, the High Five Heroes seem to undergo a shift where their rage is amplified. Kipperlily's counselor files become much more venomous towards the Bad Kids, Ruben shifts to emo music, etc.

At some point after this Ivy and Oisin propose changing the name to the Rat Grinders. Kipperlily opposes this and Lucy is on her side, but Ruben votes against her because it makes her upset and Mary Ann also votes against her but doesn't explain her reasoning.

A piece of paperwork is submitted for Lucy to change her god, but another piece of paperwork is filed afterwards rescinding that application, presumably by Lucy herself changing her mind.

Towards the end of the year, after grades are finalized but before classes are over thus avoiding the pass/fail penalty, Lucy dies in the far haven woods near Aguefort. Presumably, she could have been resurrected in service of this unnamed rage god, but chose not to. She "stuck to her guns".

Kipperlily's rage towards the Bad Kids has transitioned from childish to venomous, she "hates them".

Junior Year

At some point between the end of Sophomore year and the beginning of Junior year, the Rat Grinders specifically request Buddy Dawn join their party as a cleric.

At 8:01 am, the first day of classes, Kipperlily goes to Ashgrove to dig up the rogue teacher's grave, thus forcing her to reveal herself and granting Kipperlily a pass for all her rogue classes for the year. Presumably she was aware of the rogue teacher's grave beforehand (information only available in Arthur Aguefort's office) but waited until the start of Junior year so she could pass all her classes for the year.

Kipperlily announces her bid to run for student council president, with a platform based on equity, equanimity, and fairness.

Kipperlily asks Jawbone about the creation of Yes! and the events of prompocalypse

Her counselor notes become extremely enraged, with her straight up wanting to kill Kristin and being angry that she can't get to her thanks to Fig's protection.

Oisin, Ivy, and Buddy are seen at Fabian's house party during the first week of classes. Kipperlily is not seen but is possibly there invisible. The Bad Kids are asked to do drugs but decline. That same night, mephits steal part of a cloud rider engine kept in Seacaster Manor.

At the school assembly the following day Principal Grix reveals he was notified of students doing drugs off campus, meaning its possible the Rat Grinders tipped him off in an attempt to get the Bad Kids in trouble.

Ruben performs presumably some kind of ritual at the Frosty Fair Folk festival, with the other Rat Grinders conspicuously absent. Simultaneously, Yolanda Badgood falls dead in the same place where Lucy Frostblade died, after Yolanda had been made aware of Lucy's change in god and was investigating it. Yolanda also refuses to be resurrected in service of the rage god.

The Rat Grinders are seen at the assembly addressing Yolanda's death and how all clerics would be moved to pass/fail. Most look bored, Mary Ann isn't paying attention, and Buddy is unconcerned.

Kipperlily and Oisin get caught trying to sabotage the Bad Kids' Last Stand exam, and Kipperlily kills Buddy. Ten minutes after the Bad Kids plane shift away, Buddy is revived by an unknown figure and he pledges his allegiance to the rage god.

Now the Rat Grinders are scheduled for another trip to the Mountains of Chaos and are on complete lockdown, hiding all of them from Adaine's divination magic.

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How is Ally misinterpreting Bucky? (genuinely curious)

I think what you're referring to is Ally misinterpreting Helio. They come away from their interaction with Helio in episode three as him having been a "frat boy" but that's just not at all supported by what happened. Here's the transcript of everything Helio said in season one:

Helio: [ethereal, soft spoken] Wow! Kristen, it's so good to see you. Kristen: Whoa! Helio: I've known you your whole life, but now you get to see me face to face. This is great! Kristen: Whoa! Brennan: You see he gives you a big hug. It's the warmest hug you've ever felt. Kristen: [sighs] Brennan: As he's hugging you, you feel your backpack jiggling around. You see he's clearly got his eyes closed in the hug. You feel Arthur slip out of the backpack now that he is past the threshold of heaven. Kristen: [shocked chuckle] Aguefort: [shushing] Don't tell anybody! Brennan: And winks and sprints into heaven as fast as he can. [Emily laughs] Kristen: He was so fast! Brennan: [laughing] You see Helio. He looks up and says, Helio: What? Kristen: Hm? Helio: What are you talking about? Kristen: Oh, I was, mentally saying goodbye to a friend I was remembering. Helio: Here's the thing, Kristen. We checked. It's not your time. You have more work to do. Kristen: Oh my God! Helio: I know you're gonna do a great job, and I care about you. And what's more, I know that you care about your new friends and I think that's cool as hell. Kristen: Thanks. Helio: Hey. Kristen: Hm? Helio: Go knock em out down there. Kristen: [laughing] I will. Hey, can I ask you something? Helio: Yeah! Kristen: Why is there so much suffering in the world? Helio: [fingerguns] Later!

Ally has religious trauma and that's valid and they already had Kristen's loose character arc mirroring their own IRL in mind so in combination with it being their first time ever playing D&D it's completely understandable that things were a little rushed and muddled. But the fandom has totally taken Kristen's evaluation of Helio completely at face value despite it not matching up with what the audience actually saw.

So now people are like "Buddy will find out what Helio is really like", and it's like, you mean a compassionate, encouraging giver of warm hugs?

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Look, I don’t know if we’re ever getting a Rat Grinders side campaign. And I also don’t know if this person’s ever played DND.

But I do think, if all the stars aligned, that Vic Michaelis would make a great Kipperlilly.

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On the one hand, fuck Kipperlilly for killing Buddy. On the other hand, I am now 110% on her side after hearing Augefort say “anyone who tried hard instead of doing something stupid is an idiot”. The Rat Grinders may be evil, but this school is arguably worse. It simultaneously punishes anyone not able to meet its standards, but also punishes anyone who does meet those standards. The moral of this season is:Arthur Augefort should NOT be running a school.

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VINDICATION

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ALISTAIR ASH WAS IN THE RECAP!!! MY BOY MIGHT COME BACK!!! THEY EVEN SHOWED HIS CHARACTER ART!!!

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Alternatively, consider:tiny itty bitty kitten Kalina, still round with little legs and a tail that sticks straight up, as the flower girl at the wedding. Tiny itty bitty basket of flowers in her tiny itty bitty mouth. Happily toddling down the aisle in that clueless way all kittens walk anywhere.

Hearing about a baby/kitten Kalina at Cassandra’s wedding is making me feel like she was a wedding gift to Cassandra and I’m freaking out thinking about his god getting a cat at her wedding OH MY GOD AHHHH

JUST AHH LITTLE BABY KALINA WITH LIKE A BOW ON HER OR SMTH IN A BASKET GETTING DELIVERED TO CASSANDRA AS SHES GETTING READY FOR THE WEDDING AHHHH

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On the one hand, that 1 was clutch! One the other hand, I’m DEVASTATED that we didn’t get to see Baron’s true form in action and the entire second act of the fight. As a DM, I feel the pain of your awesome player’s brilliance skipping the cool thing you were gonna throw at them.

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She’s said Lydia before though. After Zayn’s death, meaning after the Spy’s Tongue Curse was cast. My guess is that she’s referring to when Ragh say her talking to Jace and Arianwen.

Kalina says Ragh because she can’t say Lydia

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Zayn:appears for literally less than five minutes and is largely ignored even in those few scenes:

Us:MY BOY HAS RETURNED FROM THE WAR

Zayn Darkshadow nation we are up

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Also, his name is Stardiamond. As in, the Shatter Stars behind this entire ordeal, made from diamond blood. And he’s a celestial sorcerer if I remember correctly, meaning he gets his power from someone or something divine or angelic, or possibly even fiendish. Come on Intrepid Heroes! Please remember his suspicious actions the past two seasons!!!

Uh oh.

Kalina couldn’t say her conspirator’s name.

But in her last moments she did say

Ragh Barkrock.

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Consider:they all went rage mode from the shatter stars, killed her, came back to themselves, and took devil’s nectar in order to lie to themselves about what they did so they didn’t have to face the guilt and grief. Or maybe lie to themselves that they don’t really care.

oh. oh no. are the rat grinders acting so cagey about lucy because they have lied to themselves about what actually happened to her with the devil’s honey? is that why ivy and the others have been so goddamn weird about it? why they didn’t look for her?

oh god…does it ever wear off? what happens when it does?

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Look, nothing could have gotten me to ever hate the Bad Kids.

But the reveal that Fabian and Kristin refuse to tip waiters…that got me close…