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Omg! This breakdown is soooo real. I agree 100% I didn't even notice that the triangle between them started from season 1😭😭😭😭 Richie and Sydney's relationship is so beautiful now. And not to be that girl, but this is why I'm not a Claire fan. Carmy seem isolated around Claire. It's like she pulls him away (unintentionally) from bonding with the people he loves. She's somehow tied with his family in a toxic way. While Syd is now deep into his family and it's obvious she's healthier for them. Everyone is thriving becus she clocks greatness in each of them. She's willing to nurture their potential until they recognize it and accept that they are capable of doing exceptional things.

Claire's been around the Berzatto's for soo long....including Mikey and her presence didn't make any difference. If she's so great like the writers and everyone else keep saying, how come we can't see how her greatness transform the people around her? It took Sydney less than two months to make a difference at The Bear. Unc, Marcus, Tina, Richie, Even Computer are aware of how healthy her presence is. She's the definition of a Great Person = PEACE. Now in Season 4 Carmy started to pay attention to Sydney n he's catching up. But during his time running away.......Sydney and Richie are now two peas in a pod and we know that pisses Carmy offfff.

Carmy has always been jealous of Syd and Richie's relationship

The terrific trio: A great deal of this show really is centered around the relationship between these three people

We all saw how heartbroken Carmy looked at Syd saying she needed Richie. That was one of his biggest fears coming to pass. He's always been jealous of Syd and Richie's relationship and it started right from the moment the three of them met in that walk in freezer.

Syd and Richie's meeting is my favorite meeting between two characters of all time. It was so dramatic and funny and interesting and I can't get enough of that scene. It was Richie being his charismatic but obnoxious self and Syd just matching fire for fire with the quickness, which is the first thing that made me fall instantly in love with her. Carmy all the while is in the middle of that whole run-in acting very protective of Syd in the moment.

We all assume with good reason that he cut between them because Richie said something inappropriate, calling Syd sweetheart. But his reaction started the moment Richie reached out to Sydney, introducing himself.

Maybe he was anticipating the inappropriateness? Or maybe it was something else?

Exhibit 2: His reaction in Ceres after Richie and Syd had a traumatic experience together and had to check in with each other, as they should.

He turns away and looks very sulky after he sees that exchange between them.

Exhibit 3: The way he leaves the kitchen just to find out what they are talking about? Come on, Carmen, it's like 10 minutes to service lol.

Also here's another example of him just being done with whatever was going on with them in "The Beef" in S2. He's given up at this point 😂. He can't stop them from being them. It is what it is.

Season 2 explored the swing and miss attempt at a potential closer relationship between Sydney and Carmy which ultimately culminates in the fridge incident. By the time Carmy comes out of that fridge, the relationship between Richie and Syd is completely transformed

This scene marks the turning point of the Syd/Richie relationship, mirroring the climax of their fallout in S1

They are friends now.

Carmy crashing out in the margins about Syd and Richie's friendship (1. F_ck Richie, 2. Richie's friend?)

Their friendship has been a beautiful thing to watch blossom and Carmy secretly hates it. You can see it in the way he passive aggressively tells Sydney to handle Richie when they're fighting and Syd steps in, even in S1.

But why?

Run into each other!

He could tell they were going to something from the moment they met, I think. But seeing them get closer reminds him yet again of his inadequacies. Richie and Syd have been able to do the one thing he and Syd have been unable to do:

Whatever turn their relationship has taken, it's been honest everytime. They weren't afraid to explore whatever it is that was happening between them. It didn't matter if it was ugly, if it was messy, if it was painful. It didn't matter if it ended with someone getting stabbed in the ass. They were ready to face each other as they were, with all their messiness. And somewhere in there, they were able to really see each other.

Syd was able to recognize his pain through all his bitchiness in Hands and it's significant that he was the first person to let her in about what happened with Mikey and she was able to see that he was suffering from the loss. He also didn't hesitate to act out when he felt insecure about her abilities and she was not afraid to call him out for the loser that he was being.

They were willing and able to throw that mess at each other and get it out of the way so that they could actually bond. And it's mostly because of how much of an open book Richie is and Syd's ability to match his intensity.

That's something that Carmy is unable to do.

Like he admitted in Goodbye, he resented Richie for having the relationship he couldn't have with Mikey. Not because he wanted Mikey all to himself but because he recognized he didn't know Mikey the way Richie did and that's, at least partially, because of how closed off he is. We even see Mike complain of having to "drag things out of" Carmy. That's the same reason he "hates" Pete. He wants to be more intimate with the people that he loves but never manages to do so and has to watch other people do the things he's bad at and get to know his own people more than he can.

He hated that Richie was inside his family in a way that he couldn't be and now Richie is inside his would be best friend/wife/lover/muse the way he hasn't been able to manage.

So when he looks at Sydney with so much hurt at the season finale, it's him realizing that it is history repeating itself. She's grown to not need him. But she's grown to need Richie. They've become self actualized in that relationship and he has not, so they're out of the loop and he's not. Or maybe he's the one out of the loop idk. But he's not where they are.

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I did have a feeling Carmy resented Richie for being so close to Mikey. Lo and behold I was right.

I'm getting that same feeling again when it comes to Sydney. Is that weird? Or am I being extra? Carmy told Richie that he resented him becus he knew his family, especially Mikey, he knew him and spent alot of time with him.

For some reason I feel like Carmy is having that experience again. He knows a lil stuff about Syd, but Richie knows alittle bit more. One of the biggest thing is that Richie knows Sydneys dad and she is comfortable enough with him to ask him to check in with her father (Friends n Family night). That's a big deal coming from Sydney...... She's lowkey starting to trust Richie more than Carmy, and Carmy is aware of this. That trust and mutual understanding between the two puts Carmy on the outside looking in. Just like Richie and Mikey's relationship had Carmy on the outside looking in.

Richie n Sydney Relationship

They are close enough to the point where he asked her to be his plus 1 at his ex-wife wedding.

Let me go deeper! He asked her to dance at that wedding infront of multiple Berzatto's who knows him and his ex-wife. Be mindful, Sydney don't know those people. He leaned on her heavily for support during that wedding ep and home girl did not disappoint.

Do y'all know how big that is? Syd with walls higher than mount Everest is willing to put herself out there for Richie's sake. I hope Carm's on fire with jealousy lol (I still love him 😅)

Nobody, and I mean nobody (including the writers) can convince me that Carmy is not aware of how deep their friendship goes. I don't think Carmy took his eyes off Sydney for 1 min throughout season 4. Therefore, all the lil talks Syd had with Sweeps, T, LUCA, Marcus, and RICHIE.... Carmy heard and saw them ALL. He saw all the looks of support Syd gave Richie everytime he struggled with the group meeting pep talks. He's taking mental notes that Richie is starting to lean heavily on Syd for emotional support. He is getting everything Carmy wants from Syd. That is why he was so pissed when she called him her partner.

He introduced her at the wedding as friend, becus that's what he wants and that's how he sees her. The "I'm your fuking friend" was laced with resentment n anger. He's mad at her for choosing Richie over him as a friend, for thinking about leaving him for Shapiro, he hid that Claire was a distraction "a hurdle in his way" - Ckaire was his way of running away from her (Syd) n the restaurant becuz he was too afraid the other shoe dropping and losing Sydney.

Another big thing I noticed. Richie is not afraid of using his Sydney friendship card around Carmy. During that alley fight....Richie told Syd to stay, while him n Carm had that big Convo. He's not afraid to rely on her for support when he needs it the most. During that fight, she was his anchor, and trust meeeee Carmy noticed. Richie was willing to take her inside with him so protect her just like how she protects him emotionally.

Last but not least. She asked Richie (Not Carm) to be her partner and saying that's what she "needed" was her way of hurting Carmy just like hw he's been hurting her.

She left him high n dry like how he left her for Claire. She chose Richie like how he chose Claire. We can tell it hurts Carmy to his core. The sad part is that Syd is aware and it's hurting her too. We saw in szn 4 ep1 that Syd is willing to hurt his feels, but on the down low she's hurting bcus of it.

It's like they are doing this toxic dance with other people just to avoid facing the truth, that both of them ha a thing for each other. They are both afraid of what will become of it.....and instead of running into it head on, they put a bunch of hurdles in the way, dancing with the ghosts of what could be.

My whole point is that, Richie (the pain in the butt) is Sydneys friend more than Carmy.

I'm just writing stuff becus I'm bored and I need Carmy jealousy of Richie n Sydney friendship. I hope te writing come through next year 🙏🏾 😩

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Fire is Carmy's worst nightmare..... sigh

It's my 2 year anniversary on Tumblr 🥳

when I catch you, Christopher Anthony Storer....

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I was thinking the same thing. I love them both

Sydcarmy is almost identical to richonne and it's making me ill

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All fun and jokes aside. If the energy is not charged and intense next season between Sydney and Carmy I'm done with The Bear.

Like how in the world can they go back to normal after everything they said to each other. "You're suppose to be here". Sydney telling Carmy she wanted him there with her. "You're my partner" she's telling him I'm choosing YOU, even though hes always hurting her. "Any chance of good started when you walked into this building" that's Carmy confessing he sees her. That's him telling her he's been paying attention and tuning right into her from the very beginning. "You're The Bear" Now for the love of God.....if nothing else from that alley fight don't throw them off their axis.....that Fxing 3 letter word seal the deal. How can they go back to normal after that confession, that she's officially part of him. It was more than a love confession.😭😭😭 The raw emotiona, him seeing Sydney in distress and crying. There is no going back from all that. Carmy broke something in Sydney and if he's not a complete mess next season because of it.......I'm done. I know he's looking for peace and happiness, but I don't want him to find it until he's doing right by Syd. Yes, I'm being selfish. I know Carmy is traumatized and all, but that doesn't give him the right to hurt people who loves him and sacrifice alot for him. Healing is a team work thing. He needs to surround himself with people who love and support him. Hurting Syd n The Bear Family is unacceptable. Traumatized or not.

I love that Carmy put it all out there for her to hear bcuz he realized she wanted him there😭😭😭. He thought she didn't and that's why she didn't sign the agreement. Now, both of these dumbaxx kids thinking they don't want each other. While Sydney wants Carmy and Carmy needs Syd.

Season 5 have to be intense. I want to see how unstable Carmy's gonna be when Syd ghost him like he ghosted Claire.

Can he go weeks or months without talking to Syd?

How will Sydney distancing herself affects him?

How will Carmy feel seeing Richie steal/gain the attention of someone he loves or admire again?

When will Syd confess about EMP!? Why is it taking forever?? TF! That confession better be the biggest thing in tv history since I have to wait 10,000bc for it. LMAO.

Just venting cuz season 4 got me all the way fx.ed up! Carm and Syd was next level intimate without even touching. Claire got nothing on them. It's time for Carmy to stop the emotional cheating and just choose Sydney.

The End lmao.

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The Bear Season 5 Sydcarmy WISH LIST:

1. I need Sydney to avoid/ignore Carmy

2. I need Sydney to be thick as thieves with Richie to the point where Carmy burns with jealousy. ( Like I want him to constantly look at them when they interact) Also Carm is seeing a Therapist lol.

3. I want the crew to go out to celebrate Marcus. During that time I want Carmy to spot Sydney and Luca's chemistry (n he's gonna hate how it makes him feel)

4. I need Carmy to realize that all important information is coming from Nat. Nat will ask him if Sydney didn't tell him and what's going on with the two of them.

5. I need Carmy to visit his mom again, but somewhere along the line Syd's name pop up and Carm finds out about Sydneys best meal. He's gonna crash out after hearing it.

6. I need Claire and Carm to meet up. I want him to give her the sweatshirt and close that chapter. FYI, he's thinking about Sydney during that time.

7. Carmy is still crashing out over Syds fav meal. He's going to try n talk to her about it, but she's gonna dismiss him over n over.

8. I need The Sandwich Window (mini Beef) to expland officially.

9. I need Carmy to finally lose it with Syd. Corner her to get some more information about her favorite meal and why she kept it a secret from him.

10. I need Richie to put carmy in his place for making Sydney an emotional mess. Like, threaten his axx for making her cry and distant.

11. I need Tina to plate in less than 3 mins (because her teacher is great) aka Syd

12. I need Carm to have a panic attack over not being close to Sydney anymore. I want him to rock with fear thinking they will never have any type of relationship. I need him to suffer with the idea that even though she's staying at The Bead, he still lost her.

13. Carmy will accidentally meet Emmanuel. Syd will not be happy about it and Carmy will ask her why she's being like that with him.

14. Lastly. Carmy will confess to Sydney that the only time he enjoys cooking is when he's cooking with her. And he's aware of it now becus they haven't been cooking together and he hates how it makes him feel.

Wishful thinking, right? Lmao.

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I don't know why.....but I would love to read a fanfic where Carmy and Michael fell in love with Sydney. Like both of them fell in love with her becus she secretly save them from mental destruction.

Like, ultimately she will choose Carm, but I'll love to read some angst and watch both of them lose it over her.

Y'all don't hate me, just thinking out loud lmaooo.

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He had to remind her lmao.

Sydney: Should I send my revised COGS to your girlfriend?

Carmen: She’s not my girlfriend.

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Sydney: You’re my partner

Carmen: I’m your friend. I’m your fucking friend!

and I was supposed to be normal about that. notice how that didn’t take a fucking pep talk from the Faks. that one came from the gut. from the SOUL.

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I find it odd that in the middle of the apples conversation between Carmy and Sydney...... Carmy just said "fennel" Like why was that on his mind? And then Syd is like "Where you got that from?" 😂🤣😂🤣😂

I'm just as confused as Sydney. 😂🤣😂🤣😂😂 Not to mention the whole time she was nervous about the conversation becus she doesn't know what to expect from him. 😂🤣

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The Bear and the Male Gaze, Male Jealousy, and Carmy

Carmy and Syd have spent 18 (?) months locked in the same box, and are each others' one and only in so many ways. It's not even bad or abnormal that Carm took her for granted. It just never even occurred to him that there was a world outside the Bear.

But all it takes is one ambitious semi-resourceful man, and suddenly Sydney is out there alone, insecure, exposed, underresourced, undermined.

In this case the guy even did all the work to fill in Carmy on his wife's endangerment, which is fascinating. It's practically canon that Shapiro, who knew a different version of Carm than Syd's version, was hoping to provoke an angry attack on Syd by an egotistical and vain Carm, driving Syd and maybe some of her friends from work right into Shapiro's arms. Carmy did not comply with Shapiro's expectations!

He did, however, recognize that Syd had been picked off because she'd been left unprotected as a result of his aforementioned egotism and vanity. He simultaneously realized the idea of Sydney starting her day by saying "morning chef" to someone else in some other kitchen made him want to hurl, and violently. This is not a progressive enlightened thing, but it also wasn't a choice. The image of her being hassled by some other man, cornered, yelled at, touched, anything, utterly haunted him and made every system in his body short circuit.

He realized this pattern would continue. Syd was too good, too beautiful, too special to fail to draw the attention of other men, some chefs and some trophy hunters.

And it was this realization that made all the difference. He could not and should not and would not keep that girl, wild and free, trapped in his cage for the rest of her life. That idea was worse than all the others. If she was going to stay, it would have to be by choice, because he offered her something she desired.

In his heart, he knew perfectly well what she desired and what he had been withholding, for every good reason. He wanted to keep her on the pedestal, another form of cage, for longer, but time had run out. He either needed to mark her as his, not for their sake but for hers, or he needed to send her away forever. The latter was no option at all. It would kill them both.

So instead...he would light her cigarette, and feed her his food, and make her cum. She was already so imprinted on him, as he her, they were already so entangled, he was already so consumed with her, that it was but a step and he was crossing the bridge to mine mine mine only mine touch her and die she is mine.

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I hope so......I hope the writers do it justice. And he better go off the rails alittle bit more than he did when he ignored Claire. He better live up to "I dont like how this feels" in season 5.

Carmy having Sydney withdraws after leaving the restaurant.

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I hope she put him in Time Out in Season 5. He needs to sweat alittle

HE DID THE LOOK, SHE DID THE TOUCH. SEASON 4 THE BEAR

So I was watching this scene and Sydney was talking to Carmy

He turns to look at her and says 'That's awesome'

She looks at him knowingly in acknowledgement

When he looks away she continues to talk

But her arm touches and RESTS ON HIS

She put it there

And it STAYS THERE

He doesn't say anything

Is extremely important that she's the one doing the touch.

Carmy notices everything, so why doesn't he think that this MEANS something???

Sir and ma'am PLEASE!!!

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It was so funny😂🤣. When he said "I thought you would be psyched" (about him leaving) he found out SHE WAS NOT HAPPY AT ALL. She snapped and started to yelling that he's supposed to be here (with her🤭) n Richie interrupted. I think at the very moment he realized he fked up. Like, imagine his plan to leave was because he thought she didn't want to work with him. He probably took her not signing the contract n considering Shapiros offer was a personal attack that he is a POS n she doesn't wanna be around him. Only to find out she actually wants him there with her as a partner.

It's evident that him leaving hurting her this bad was a shock to him. 😭😭

Carmy asking Sydney is that what she really wants (adding Richie to the partnership agreement) on the verge of tears, and she tells him that's what she NEEDS, and he looks heartbroken ? Good, I'm sick of this man lmao

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Carmy didn't want any part of this, and once again Claire had to force him just like how she forced her way into getting his number 😭Like girl, please stand tf up and leave this man alone.

Then we see Carmy just going with the flow for the sake of Richie's daughter. And Claire had to be all up in his personal space lol. Carmy lowkey looked annoyed lol. But, I might be delulu cause she gets under my skin.

One thing is for sure.....Carm is not thinking about Claire. He's too preoccupied trying to figure out how to work the Kitchen without Sydney, how it's gonna go when he tells her he's retiring, and to get the hell out from underneath that crowded table.

The way she says his name is poetry!🥰🥰🥰

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Claire is always in his panic attack adding to his suffering.... like whyyyyyy?!!!!

Carmy looked so broken. It's absolutely hard to watch him go through this.

He couldn't even put a sentence together. Saying random things that didnt make sense.

Then Richie and Syd pop up to the rescue.....got me wondering if Carmy was looking around for Sydney (his source of calmness). Cause the moment she walked up to him with Richie.... Their eyes locked. His eyes were glued to hers. Like he was silently begging her to save him from his panic attack. He tried thinking about Claire, but it made his panic worst. It was sooo painful to watch this episode. Carmy just seemed like he was being tortured the whole episode. The only time I saw him breathe was when Syd walked up to him to see if he was Okay.

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Sydney's face had me crying!! 🤣😂🤣😂 She makes the cutest face expressions.

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It would be really nice if Tiff's husband and Chef Terry could be a silent investor for The Bear. I'm sure they have the money to help a bit. I want them to keep The Bear so Syd n Carmy can continue the angst in season 5 lmao.

I really wanna see how Carmy is gonna handle Syd not being close to him anymore becus of his decision. I just know she's gonna distance herself from him. Like she's only going to consult Richie and Sug and then ask them to pass on the information to Carm. I want her to be sooooo petty his head will spin. I want him to worry when he's talking to Claire...... bring up Sydney's name every 5mins. I want Carmy to have no peace. That's the only way he's gonna realize who really gives him peace.