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#& i want above all bad books with strange lore explained badly
luwupercal · 11 months
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also i've been thinking bc i've been struggling to read warhammer books recently but it might just be because i literally only read horus heresy bc i don't have nearly the same problem with necron books so i might just start reading books *actually set in 40k(!!!)* like some kind of warhammer fan... this is partially a recommendations-asking-post and partially me just letting you know not to call the fire brigade if i start posting about ciaphas cain one of these days
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russian-romanova · 5 years
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enough said
title: enough said
pairing: jack kline
word count:  2K
warnings: adult language, me shaking my head at my life decisions as i write ‘lucifer was stunned’ and thinking about how normal people don’t write sentences like this.
notes: so, i had to repost this one because the text got deleted after i tried to edit a piece on my phone. guess i won’t be doing that again!
request: “Jack is dating the brother’s sister and only cas knew until sam and dean see them kiss and freak out? or lucifer as an actually good father giving jack advice on asking sam and dean’s sister on a date?”
summary: unsure of who to tell about his feelings for y/n, jack goes to his father for some advice. basically it’s a cheesy pile of wonderful shit :)
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“Hey, can you pass me that book?” 
Jack looked up, met with your outstretched hand. You were focused down on the lore book in front of you, eyes gliding over words and pictures. You looked tired, Jack noted, but not in a way that made you look bad or anything. It just… was. “Which one?” 
You glanced up, meeting Jack’s eyes briefly before looking down at the pile in front of you. “That one,” You pointed. “The gold and green one.” The Nephilim scanned the books closest to him before picking up what he assumed was the book you were talking about. “Thank you,” You smiled at him as he passed it to you, your hands brushing. 
Jack’s gaze remained up as yours fell back to the lore, distracted by the thoughts rushing through your head. The small smile he always wore grew a little bigger as he watched you concentrate, eyes flicking between picture and paragraph, comparing previous knowledge with new information and storing that in your head. 
You turned the book from a page about vampires to a page about changelings. Jack didn’t really understand why he wanted to look at you for so long. He didn’t feel this way about Sam or Dean, despite being family and Jack looking up them. Of course, there were somethings he loved watching the brothers do, like when Dean fixed a part on the impala or when Sam got so into telling a story that he would act it out. But with you, Jack would watch you stare at a wall. 
He didn’t think he could tell Sam or Dean. Dean would probably laugh, and Sam would give him some sugar-coated explanation of the feeling, which was nice at times, but not when he wanted to get to the bottom of it so badly. Castiel would give him a version with condescending undertones, which was a word Jack wasn’t too familiar with yet but certainly had experience with the feeling.  
His mind searched for options as your head looked up at him. Without realizing why Jack looked back down the lore he was looking through as so to avoid eye contact with you. He didn’t understand why he acted the way he did around you, and he knew that he needed a professional opinion.
So of course, Jack excused himself and turned to google. 
Deciding what to search was hard. He had to words to put his feelings into, so he ended up searching ‘who do i talk to about a girl’ and clicking the magnifying glass. ‘How to talk to girls: 15 no bullshit tips’, read the first one, which was clearly not what Jack needed. He knew how to talk to girls, that was just dumb. It was just like talking to men, only Dean said you were supposed to be even nicer to women. 
The second and third, ‘How to Talk to a Girl: 9 tips to Get Her HOOKED’ and ‘34 Topics To Talk About With A Girl You Like’ weren’t much more helpful, either. By the time he was on page twelve of the google results, a half-hour had passed and Jack was no closer to finding out who to talk to about his unknown feelings.
From behind him, a familiar voice spoke up. “Whatcha lookin’ at, sport?” Jack didn’t even have to turn around to know that it was Lucifer, nor was he surprised by his popping up anymore.
Jack turned around. Perhaps the answer to his question had been in front of him this whole time. He closed his laptop. “Can I… talk to you about something?”
Lucifer was stunned for a moment but quickly regained himself. “Yeah, spill.” 
After examining the floor and gathering his thoughts, Jack began to speak. “I… Whenever I’m around Y/N I feel… strange.” 
“Like… barf strange or good strange?”
“Good strange. Really good strange. It’s like I’m…” Jack struggled for a moment. “It’s like I can’t breathe, but in a good way. I really want to look at her always, and whenever I’m around her I feel happy.” 
The words registered and Lucifer smiled. “Ooh, sounds like Jack’s got a little crush. I should have seen like goo-goo eyes from a mile away.” 
“None of those words made sense,” Jack answered honestly. 
“Right. Okay,” Lucifer sat down on the side of Jack’s bed, and he realized he felt more like a lecturing father than he probably ever would again. “So when you want to spend a lot of time with someone and just want to look at them and whatnot, usually it’s because you really like them. More than you like a friend, or more than you like Sam and Dean.” He furrowed his eyebrows, unsure of how to continue. 
Jack thought this over. “What about… what about the feeling? Is there a word?” 
Oh, that kid loved his words. “Yes, um,” Lucifer hesitated for a second. “Love.”
“Love? But I know what love is.” 
“Yeah, yeah, but this is a different love. Trust me, kid, alright? This is like, Han Solo and Leia, not Luke and Leia.” A Star Wars reference. Jack could understand that, right? 
The Nephilim thankfully nodded. “Okay.” 
There was a moment of silence before Lucifer spoke up. “So, are you gonna tell her?”
Jack was silent.
“Do you want my opinion? Just go for it. Tell her how you feel, or maybe don’t. Girls like it when you make the first move.” Lucifer shifted. “Just lean in and kiss her. You do know how to kiss, right?”
Jack hesitated. “I’ve… seen kissing.” 
“Good enough,” Lucifer stood up, walking over to Jack. “Just trust your gut. She already likes you, I’m 100% about that. Be confident, be you, and go get ‘em.” 
Jack nodded, frankly surprised. He didn’t think he would ever get this from Lucifer, especially not so sincerely. “Thank you,” The Nephilim offered genuinely, and Lucifer felt his heart swell at the words. He never really cared much for being a father, but then there would be moments like this that made it suddenly worth it. 
So Jack returned to find you still reading. You had added coffee and an empty plate to your stack of nearby items, so cluttered Jack wasn’t sure how you could even get to the books. “Hey, Jack,” You looked up and smiled, and Jack felt the feeling in his stomach return. “Where’ve you been?”
“In my room,” Jack answered, smiling. Thankfully, all you gave was a strange look before returning to your book. After considering his options for a moment, Jack decided to sit next to you rather than across from you. 
And then the need to stare returned and Jack felt his face grow warm. Your eyes moved slower now, taking in information that was entirely new and trying your hardest to remember it. You were concentrating, he knew because he recognized the look on your face. He had seen it a hundred times before, but it was evidently much lighter than before because you looked up to meet his gaze.
“What?” You chuckled, your own face blushing a little. 
Nerves took over Jack’s stomach, but he pushed through them and kept looking at you. Lucifer’s advice echoed in his ears, and he felt himself moving before he realized it. 
Gracefully and curiously, Jack leaned in towards you. Without having to even think, you met him halfway, your lips touching as if you had done it a million times before. It was short and sweet, but not at all awkward as you thought it might have been. 
You pulled yourself away to find Jack smiling even wider than you were. He was beaming like you had never seen him before. It was freeing and refreshing, and you almost felt like hugging him out of joy. 
“What the hell just happened?” A man’s voice came from out of your vision, and you jerked your head around to see Dean, holding two grocery bags and looking flabbergasted, and Sam, smiling and looking smug.
“Dean! Hello,” Jack began, holding his hand up in a wave. 
“Um, we can explain-” You interrupted, stumbling over your words and trying to speak above Jack’s voice. 
Sam chuckled a little. “You don’t have to explain. It took you two long enough.” 
You blinked once, twice, then looked to Dean. “Wait, really?”
Dean hesitated, still looking a little like he had walked in on his grandmother changing. “Yeah. Just- just keep it PG, okay?” 
Jack gave Dean a strange look. “Like… the movies?” 
“Yeah, no, we’re not gross,” You answered Dean quickly, waving your hands in denial.  “Also, we have basic human decency.” 
Dean raised an eyebrow. “Okay. Congrats, kids.” He muttered in remaining confusion, raised a grocery bag to toast the two of you, and walked through the room to the kitchen.
“How’d either of you get up the guts?” Sam asked, crossing his arms. 
Jack smiled. “I asked my father.”
Sam hesitated. “You asked… Lucifer for dating advice?” 
“Yes.” Jack nodded a little. “I wasn’t sure what to think at first, but I guess he was right.” 
“I guess.” You shrugged. 
Sam looked between the two of you, smiling a little. “Okay. I’ll let you two get back to it.” This was something rare in the hunting life, something pure and meaningful. He never really had that, and he was beyond happy that the two of you had a shot at something like that, something normal. But now Jack and you did, and Sam was glad to know it was a chance going to the right people. 
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thiscrimsonsoul · 5 years
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Not to mix up lores, but what would Wanda do if she could visit Stephen King's "Pet Sematary" and she still had Pietro's/Vision's bodies nearby? (Although I don't think it would work with Vision because... He's a super complex being! And I'm assuming you know what happens because you write so well, I'm sure you read a lot) Would Wanda try to bring them back despite the warnings? Or would she let them rest?
{out of paprikash} Oh, this is such a cool question! Lots to discuss here. I’m a big horror book and movie buff and I love both for “Pet Sematary.” So... I think it would depend on Wanda’s mental state at the time, and exactly how much she was told about the results of burying someone at the “Pet Sematary.” Let’s do a best case/worst case scenario thing, shall we?
Best case scenario, Wanda is of relatively sound mind and is shown or told pretty compelling stories to make her think twice. Maybe she was shown a news article of what happened to the Creeds or some other family affected by the place, or she had someone explain to her in gory detail what happened. Hmm... I guess for the benefit of my followers who may not know the story, I should explain a bit so that everyone understands. You know what? Under the cut because I ended up rambling on FOREVER with this ask, haha...
“Pet Sematary,” spelled incorrectly because it was supposed to have been written on a sign by young children, was a place where you could bury the dead and have them come back to life. Sort of, heh. Started as a graveyard where kids buried their pets, it was an evil place that twisted whatever was buried there. It was located on an Indian burial ground (very trope-ish, I know), and basically the premise was that the ground had “gone sour.” Whatever you buried there would come back to you, so I mean it did work, but there were consequences. There was one iconic line in the original movie, I forget whether it was in the book too, I read it so many years ago, but it was, “Sometimes, dead is better.” In other words, as painful as it is to lose someone, it’s even more so to have their memory twisted or overwritten by some perversion or obscene likeness of them. It’s also even more painful to deal with all the other associated consequences, of which there were many...
The first initial moments of the animal or person coming back to you might be nice, only because it takes a while for the full evil to set in, and of course you wanted your loved one back, so seeing them again makes you happy. But pretty soon you would notice them having some weird behaviors. They might stare at you creepily, might want to eat raw meat, might be angrier or crueler than you remember them, might be obsessed with weapons or sharp objects. And the more you either question the behavior or try to correct it, the angrier and more frustrated the person or animal becomes.
The next stage is them trying to harm or even kill random people and animals around you or even people in your family or your friends. The resurrected person or animal becomes more and more violent and murderous, and less like the loved one you buried. Their actions become more impulsive, less rational, and more instinctual, like a crazed animal more than a healthy one or a sane person. They might drool, growl, hit their head against the wall... just really strange things, even as they harm or kill everyone around you.
The last stage is them hunting and killing you, the person who buried them. In fact, there was a rule for this. “You bury your own.” It’s kindof like well... if you want this done, if you want this person or animal to come back and are basically willing to spit in the face of the laws of nature to make it happen, then you have to take responsibility for the associated consequences. And it becomes really cruel and heartbreaking because they will try to lure you to them with false kindness and love.
So... at the point at which they’re trying to kill you, you’re probably on to them by now and wanting to re-kill them to get them to stop killing your family and friends. But they’re a loved one too, and they know it, and they’ll use it. So if it’s a cat, it’ll mew softly or purr at your leg before jumping at your throat. If it’s a spouse, they’ll try to hug you or kiss you as they’re raising a knife to your back. if it’s a child, they’ll cry for mommy or daddy as they conceal a scalpel or some other weapon to harm you with as soon as you pick them up. They might ask you, “Why are you doing this to me?” while looking super sad, and the second you start to break down and regret things, they’ll move in for the kill. So they really use your love for them as a weakness to get to you, which is a very sad concept.
The premise is a lot like, for those of you who love the horror genre, the second story of Trilogy of Terror II (1996). A woman whose son drowned in the ocean near their home performs an occult ritual to bring him back. The boy does come back, and he seems confused, disoriented, cold, but otherwise fine. Very quickly, however, he becomes mouthy, demanding, disobedient, destructive... and eventually he ends up trying to kill his mom. The punch line of the story is that the boy didn’t drown accidentally, but rather he jumped off the cliffs and into the water to get away from his controlling and abusive mother. The boy’s soul didn’t want to come back, so something else came back instead. Something evil. Well Pet Sematary is the same kind of deal. It’s almost like Celtic stories of changelings, how it looks exactly like the person you know, but doesn’t act like them at all.
The upshot is that anything buried at the Pet Sematary would come back in the body you buried (which had it’s own downsides if the body was badly destroyed during the person’s death, and the person/animal would smell really bad, because they are in fact still dead) but the soul of the person you loved wouldn’t be inside. Instead, there was something else, soulless, evil, demonic, whatever you wanted to infer it was. And it was always just... utterly remorseless, entirely without empathy, and would always just tear apart the life of the person who buried the body before actually killing them too. I think there was a lesson here, or maybe a few lessons, something to the effect of, death is permanent and there’s not coming back from it. But also... there are consequences for imagining yourself above the laws of nature. And also... shame on you for disturbing the rest of a person who may not want to come back. Whether they wanted to die or prefer to remain dead now that they are, it’s seen as total selfish hubris on the part of the person burying their dead loved one because it’s about easing your pain instead of letting your loved one rest in peace.
Okay so now that I’ve blabbed on and on about that... the best case scenario for Wanda is if she’s fairly mentally stable, maybe just grieving but has not lost touch with reality yet, and that she is swayed by the stories she reads/hears. Wanda does believe in demons, she is superstitious, and she is very fearful of things like damning souls for eternity. It’s why she is so disturbed by what she feels when Pietro dies and interprets it partially from what she actually feels but partially out of fear and grief as him ending up in some sort of hell or place where his soul is being tortured in some way. So she does believe in such things and Pietro and Vision both are two people she loved so fiercely that if she is in her right mind, she would not play around with anything that might damn them, punish them, torture them, or twist their natures at all.
With Pietro and his love of running and athletics and with Vision and his unique body, Wanda would not be attracted to the idea of bringing them back in bodies that are falling apart, rotting, or otherwise continuing to die even though they are animated. That’s... perverted to her. It’s a perversion of nature and of their bodies which she values because they were important to them, so she would never want to bring them back in any condition that would upset them or be anything less than the ideal they would want to live in.
But I think the real kicker that would really drive home for her that this is a bad idea and something she wouldn’t mess with is if someone explained to her that it wouldn’t be the soul of the person she actually loves being brought back. It’d be their body, but something dark inside them. That would really both scare her and turn her off to the whole idea.
Also, something I just thought of... is that if Wanda actually went to the Pet Sematary - and this is my own headcanons to some extent - she might be able to read the land? Wanda reads minds, yes, but she is also attuned to certain energies and very empathetic. She might either sense the evil of the land, the “sourness,” as it were... or she might maybe pick up on residual emotions from people who had been victimized by the land. That would also be a huge deterrent to her actually going through with anything.
NOW... heh... WORST case scenario. So let’s say this is a post-Endgame Wanda who did not adjust well and is now grieving Vision along with Pietro and her parents and Natasha and Tony and anybody else she’s lost. Maybe she tries to use her own powers to bring Vision back and it doesn’t work. She’s getting exhausted, run down, frustrated, more grief-stricken, and now she’s losing touch with reality. She’s seeing things. She’s sleep-deprived. She’s not eating well. And all of that is making her so desperate to just have somebody come back to her. That version of Wanda might actually go through with it. Although at that point, she’d have to do Vision because there wouldn’t be enough of a body left from Pietro to try it with him. I don’t see Wanda doing it with Pietro after Ultron, I just don’t see her being that mentally unstable yet at that point in her life to make such an unwise decision. But after Endgame? Yeah. Maybe. But for now we’ll assume she buries Vision there.
So... this is actually gonna get real sad, real fast, heh, because there’s no happy ending here at all. One outcome is that Vision goes on a rampage and starts killing people and other Avengers have to find some way to kill him, in which case Wanda would seriously lose her shit to see Vision killed a third time. I think if she’s mentally unstable enough to bury him in the sour land after all those warnings, then she might actually be able to look past whatever evil he was doing and just be utterly delusional about it and insist that he’s fine. So... seeing him killed again would really unhinge her and she might start trying to kill people... at which point... the remaining Avengers would have to either kill or subdue her.
Another outcome is that Vision stays around Wanda for a most part or at least doesn’t draw too much attention to himself and goes right for her, of course with the intent to kill her. But I think at this point Wanda would be so happy to see him in any form that her reaction would be similar to that of Louis Creed when he buried his wife Rachel. For those who haven’t seen the movie (the 1989 version, anyway, I haven’t seen the 2019 one yet), Louis by this time had lost the family cat, his toddler son, his neighbor, and then his wife. Well... the toddler son killed the wife, heh, because he was buried first. But yeah. By the time his wife is killed and he’s forced to re-kill his toddler son, Louis is pretty freakin’ unhinged mentally, heh. He’s just broken by his pain and when Rachel comes back dripping with goo and just her face is falling apart and it’s just nasty, haha... he doesn’t even see it. He only sees his wife, and he’s happy, and he hugs her and kisses her, and she stabs him in the back, heh. It’s gross but it’s also really just heartbreaking to me because he’s so broken by that point. I think a similar situation would happen with Wanda, where she would just be so far gone mentally that she would just be happy to see Vision and would go to him, not knowing or caring that he is pretty much just going to kill her. And that.... gosh, that thought just breaks my heart to pieces. 
Thank you so much for sending this in, this was a really fun hypothetical, fictional exercise for my brain, haha. Like... I really had a lot of fun writing this and imagining all the possibilities. If there’s anything I didn’t cover or you think of other related questions, feel free to send them in, because this was a really interesting rabbit hole to go down! =)
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dapperkobold · 6 years
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Playdead’s Inside: Open-Ended as the Void
I just finished watching a LP of Inside by Playdead. I liked the puzzles. The art style wasn’t really my thing but I see the appeal. But the plot makes me angry, so I want to rant about it.
No, wait, that’s wrong. That implies it has a plot.
Spoilers, clearly, as much as this game can be spoiled because it doesn’t have a plot.
What? The game is made to be ‘open-ended’? See, I don’t buy that.
Because the thing about open-ended stories is that there... needs... to be a story.
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Inside has an ending less satisfying than Knights of the Old Republic 2, and that’s pretty notable in my book. But of course that’s kind of the entire point, it’s a melancholy game about a child in a red shirt in a cold unfeeling world in which there is no payoff or reason for anything.
Except that doesn’t work. This game’s ending isn’t tragic. There’s no emotional payoff. There’s no emotional buildup. There is nothing.
I can’t be bothered to explain what actually happens in the game, so go play it or watch an LP. If you’re wondering if you should buy it and the description above doesn’t innately appeal... well, after watching an LP i wouldn’t spend money on it.
Heck, here’s the one I watched. It’s a good time.
So, yeah. I have questions.
Why do the mask people stop showing up after a certain point?
Why are there zombie citizens at one part and thinking workers later on?
What's up with the worms?
Why is the Selkie hostile right up until she gives you water breathing?
Why in the sake of all things is there a giant unified body mass?!
Why leave a giant shockwave generator running without supervision?
The various secret ending nodes lying around... what’s even up with those?
None of these are answered. Oh, it’s easy to guess on some, but none of them are actually ANSWERED. I mean, here, some easy answers:
The upper class does not worry themselves with such things.
The loyal ones were allowed to keep their personalities.
The worms are ocean parasites that have adapted to being amphibious and it was a giant, terrible plague.
She was testing you and gave you the power when she thought you were worthy.
(No answer! It’s an open-ended game!)
It’s an experiment on environmental conditions. There is supervision, it’s just somewhere else.
They’re remote mind control relays, controlling the kid as seen in the secret ending.
Okay. But. I found equal evidence for the following theories:
The mask-people are just under an advanced form of mind control so they can manage the zomblies and the real higher-ups don’t even have to be there.
The mask folk are creepy and the normal folk that are left don’t let them into their offices.
The worms are a native life form that is thriving in the environment that humanity is terraforming the planet into.
She didn’t think stabbing you with the thing would save your life. That’s just a coincidence, she just thought it would be fun to stab you.
It was supposed to be one giant man but they messed up. Everyone wanted to come see this department’s colossal failure.
The people in the two facilities are bitter enemies and the shock wave machine was set up by one side to keep the other from claiming the no-man’s-land.
They’re spacetime stabilization relays. When you unplug the thing in the secret ending the Darkness enters the world and consumes everything.
Why, yes, most of those don’t make sense, but is there any evidence against them?
There’s no evidence for them, no, but there’s no evidence for any of the other stuff. Are the various mind-controlled things around artificial life forms? Or are they normal people being controlled or mutated? Are we on earth? On a different planet? In a giant space station? Deep under the surface in a giant cavern? On a different plane of existence? Are the shockwaves in the one area a natural phenomenon? Are places flooded because of a cataclysmic flood event or just because the entire place is so badly built it keeps sinking into the ocean? Is it hell and the masked people are just demons?
What about the protagonist? Is he trying to escape and just bad at it? Is he specifically trying to get to the blob thing? To free it? To kill it? To control it? Is he a puppet? Does he have real emotions? Does he know what’s going on at all? If you go up the hill at the start and go left fifteen yards, would you find the rest of his family getting ready for a picnic?
In the main ending, are you just doing what the higher ups secretly want you to do? Did you escape and are just having some rest before carrying on? Did you just fall short of escaping? Did you die in the tumble down the hill?
And the secret ending, sakes alive, is it just meta? Is it lore? Is it even possible to get that ending in a single playthrough? I’m pretty sure that game had points of no return!
Is any of this happening at all? Is it an allegory? What for? For coping with loss? For escaping corporate America? For soviet Russia? For the Military industrial complex? For having a stillborn child? For indie game development?
The fact that I can’t find anything to even START to prove or disprove any of these theories leads me to believe that there’s nothing actually going on. I don’t see any unique imagery or ideas. I don’t see any really metaphor-laden mechanics. I don’t even see a strange overarching art choice.
I understand that part of the appeal of open-ended endings and plots is to let different people read different things into the work. For that some unanswered questions are needed. But there’s a difference between leaving something open to interpretation and just... not writing things!
Have you seen Donnie Darko? THAT is open to interpretation. Some things definitely happened. Most likely. You can tell there was intent and ideas behind that movie. What they were? Who knows! But there was SOMETHING! Was the point that the more Donnie learned the worse his life got? What was up with the time-traveling rabbit? How did he become a part of Donnie’s psyche? See, if you’ve never seen that movie you’re currently very confused!
While, if I say, ‘what was up with the mind control worms in Inside’ and you’ve been on the right TVTropes page, you can likely make guesses without even playing or watching the game.
And if you haven’t been on TVTropes, and don’t know the tropes well enough to just take the game at face value and read into it, there’s little reason to believe that Inside has anything going on under the hood.
Here’s something I like to do with works that seem to have a lot going on but it’s unclear what: What if there isn’t anything going on and the thing is just set up like there is to get the player to assume there is?
Under this circumstance, Inside sets in right. The atmosphere, the tropes on display, the lack of solid information, the inconclusive endings... if you assume that this is a hack-job, it fits.
I’m not saying it is a hack job. In fact, at the very least it’s got good puzzles. BUT, I can’t tell the difference between this plot... and the plot of a discount intrigue hack job.
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